Session 25 April 2010

Keyhole

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I think the MMS thing is a huge scam and I'd be looking into the backgrounds of anybody promoting it FIRST.
Ok thanks that is what I will do. Just to clarify, I wasn't saying that I was going to explore actually using MMS with children, but instead to explore the theory behind it. I haven't read much about this Kerri Rivera person, other than the odd testimonial (some of which were good, and some of which were bad). I will try to do some digging and find out what is going on. As I said, I ordered her book and will fly through that to pinpoint what else she is doing that could account for some of those anecdotal recoveries. She did say that she used ozone therapy, so that could account for something I guess.

I found this on the degradation of Glyphosate with chlorine (I can't find the exact kind of chlorine molecule. I don't have access to the document). The issue is that as it was mentioned before, the oxidation with MMS is not selective and will attack any kind of biomolecules, harming the guest.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6882618_Investigation_of_the_mechanism_of_chlorination_of_glyphosate_and_glycine_in_water
This is pretty fascinating, Galaxia2002. Thanks for sharing. It seems obvious that using a non-selective agent to attack glyphosate is dangerous.

There must be some other substance that can be used to degrade the glyphosate in a less harmful way. I was reading about a product called "Biome-Medic" which was shown to reduce urinary excretion by 74% along with a 75% reduction in cross-reactive protein (an inflammatory marker). No one knows what the product actually did with the glyphosate, but there was speculation as to whether the humic/fulvic acid actually helped to metabolise it in vivo, so that it was not detectable as "glyphosate" any longer.
 

Galaxia2002

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
Keyhole said:
This is pretty fascinating, Galaxia2002. Thanks for sharing. It seems obvious that using a non-selective agent to attack glyphosate is dangerous.

There must be some other substance that can be used to degrade the glyphosate in a less harmful way. I was reading about a product called "Biome-Medic" which was shown to reduce urinary excretion by 74% along with a 75% reduction in cross-reactive protein (an inflammatory marker). No one knows what the product actually did with the glyphosate, but there was speculation as to whether the humic/fulvic acid actually helped to metabolise it in vivo, so that it was not detectable as "glyphosate" any longer.
According this book "Organic Pollutants in the Water Cycle: Properties, Occurrence, Analysis and Environmental Relevance of Polar Compounds" Glyphosate could be completely destroyed by ozone after 5-7 min and highly resistant pesticides require a higher dosage of ozone or a combination of ozone with hydrogen peroxide.

I know that there is ozonotherapy, but I have no idea of the levels reached in the body and if it has some utility, making a huge extrapolation with the above study on used water with blood, muscle, lymph, etc. Maybe repeated applications can do some effect?
It is not clear if iodine can't oxidize Glyphosate. It will be ideal!
 
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