monotonic,
Thank you for saying that so well. Since trying to further utilize a computer/consciousness analogy I have created even more questions for myself. In thinking of a program that is purely procedural it makes me think of our DNA as self-modifing code or at least code that we may "receive". In the end I am asking where does the machine end and where do "we" begin? Can we prove our consciousness exists beyond the mind/machine or does our consciousness exist in another realm so to speak? Maybe not, but the C's are mentioning past life memory:
I am almost still stuck at "Wait and see" for now but as I see more and more develops it makes me want to observe or see what happens.
goyacobol
monotonic said:I think the C's have made a distinction between knowledge and consciousness. But while we're at it, why not bring up Being as well? Information, consciousness, knowledge, being, and so on. If we can think of all the related things and connect what the C's have said about them, maybe we can make a "map" with the interconnections? How about drawing it, with the words and the relationships as arrows connecting them? Visualizing may reveal a pattern.
What if the program is consciousness? A program doesn't need data stacks. Some programs are procedural. They are able to create what they need, even assemble themselves or modify code during execution. Pure code can contain plenty of information, although it is not in a straightforward way. To draw a circle a program doesn't need a stack of data, if it has the equation. Could you then say the program still contains the information, even if not in a lookup table or library?
It seems to me the use of a library or lookup table by a program could be compared to programs in humans - our programs are actually lists of actions that are kept handy by the adaptive unconscious. But we don't need many of these lists if we formulate everything we do using reasoning. Executing a list of actions and executing an algorithm are not entirely different. I would say that the algorithm/equation approach contains more truth AND higher density thereof.
I am struggling with the distinction between algorithms and programs. If we use reasoning based on relationships, IE algorithms, we can produce a unique solution to each unique situation. This is related to the ideal of the Work. Without this reasoning, you can only do the same thing over again, and the results tend to be zero.
I think self-modifying code may be a reasonable analogy; after all the C's have said that some of our computers have developed slight consciousness.
As far as UFOs fighting in the skies, the C's have also said that storms can be battles in other densities/dimensions, so maybe they are referring to the storms when they said there would be battles in the sky.
Thank you for saying that so well. Since trying to further utilize a computer/consciousness analogy I have created even more questions for myself. In thinking of a program that is purely procedural it makes me think of our DNA as self-modifing code or at least code that we may "receive". In the end I am asking where does the machine end and where do "we" begin? Can we prove our consciousness exists beyond the mind/machine or does our consciousness exist in another realm so to speak? Maybe not, but the C's are mentioning past life memory:
Q: (L) Did they abduct me or what is the source of this memory?
A: It is a memory of a past life held in the deep subconscious level.
I am almost still stuck at "Wait and see" for now but as I see more and more develops it makes me want to observe or see what happens.
goyacobol