Session 28 May 2013

Ivone

The Force is Strong With This One
Dear Laura, I am curious if there is a chance that we have a new session soon, because lot of interesting and important things are happening right now all over the world and in my country is especially hard time to live without jobs and money, and there are lot of problems with weather, climate, politics, world economy and so on. Thank you for your answer, I hope that it was OK to ask.
 

c.a.

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Ivone said:
Dear Laura, I am curious if there is a chance that we have a new session soon, because lot of interesting and important things are happening right now all over the world and in my country is especially hard time to live without jobs and money, and there are lot of problems with weather, climate, politics, world economy and so on. Thank you for your answer, I hope that it was OK to ask.


This session (as many), my stimulate your thoughts of what you are seeing, feeling, (if you my, or my not understand). It may give you the direction we (3Dsts) my be headed, and provide some food 4 thought to your quarry. FWIW

Cassiopaean Session Transcript Session 8 August 1995
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17617.msg159066#msg159066


May 05, 2010, 06:58:45 AM
Q: (L) Are you saying that it is almost impossible to get anything that is good or useful in this environment? Are there no "good guys" out there putting things out that are good for us?

A: What do you think?

Q: (L) I certainly hope so!

A: Remember, for quite some period of time now, as you measure time, we have tried to inform you to the effect that your third density environment has been completely controlled and will be controlled by forces that seek only to serve themselves for a period, as you would measure time, exceeding 309,000 years. And, many, many times in your current life existence, you have reflected upon the questions involving the beneficial or otherwise existence of individuals or an individual IN this environment, the pros and cons of continuing such existence, and what is involved with it. And, you have correctly perceived the conclusion that this is, primarily, a negative experience. But, not that good things do not come from a negative experience, but that the basic indicator that it is a negative experience, should also indicate to you that it is an experience related to a chain of command involving Service to Self. And, therefore, Service to Self is a manipulative action rather than a openly beneficial action. It is a withdrawing and taking motion rather than an expanding motion. And these statements can answer for you, not only simple questions about one chemical compound, but the very nature of your existence to begin with as well.

{I wonder if here, in the response above, the Cs were finding a way to send me a message as to what I was dealing with in this session? This certainly described most of the session exchanges!}

Q: (L) This leads to a couple of our other questions. What is the criteria to be a 4th density candidate?

A: There is no criteria. A criteria implies a judgment system which implies that an individual or individuals are watching over the progress of other individuals. It is merely part of the natural process of learning, which you are in total control of from beginning to end, in one sense. In that sense, you choose to be in the environment you are in, which does not indicate any recommendation of the environment by any higher source, or, conversely, any condemnation of the environment by any higher source, but merely the existence of the environment and your choice to exist within it. Therefore, being a candidate merely means that you have chosen to be a candidate for ANY level of density, be it first, second, etc. It is a choice of the self to continue that learning pathway.

{This almost directly contradicts the previous response about the control system in our environment.}

Q: (L) Okay, the question has arisen: at the time of the transition to 4th density, is there going to be any assistance to those who are newly arrived in that density, or does the knowledge of that density come automatically?

A: Neither. When one arrives in 4th density, it is one's choice to find one's way just as it is in the other densities. There is no one waiting there to assist you. That would be an illusion. It is you assisting yourself as you choose to do it, the way you choose to do it.

Q: (L) There was a discussion the other day and it made me curious. It seems that some people simply do not have the capacity to understand certain concepts. Is this a function of vibrational frequency?

{I decided to move the discussion to a more abstract area to see if there would be a relaxation of the sensation of tension that existed up to this point.}

A: That is not quite hitting at the subject matter in the way in which you desire to answer the question. In other words, it is a parallel understanding pattern. It is not vibrational frequency that determines ability to conceive of any particular notion. Vibrational frequency involves the groove, or pattern, that one has chosen in general terms. But, to give you an example, there are those who are of very LOW, as you would measure, vibrational frequency, who are able to conceive of extremely complicated issues and have also discovered extremely precise, complicated, and intricate answers to very complex notions and problems from your standpoint in the illusion. But, the frequency vibrational level has more to do with the emotional path that leads either to Service to Self at its greatest possible expression, or Service to Others at its greatest possible expression, not with intellectual capacity. So it is possible for a completely STS individual at any density level to be completely cognizant of all existence, just as it is possible for a completely STO individual to be completely cognizant of all existence. It has nothing to do with vibrational frequency because that is the emotional pathway.

{I would say that this was accurate enough. But I have an agenda behind my question that emerges in the next one. I'm "testing". In the following question, I deliberately sought to put "Frank" at ease by suggesting that I was NOT asking about him at all.}

Q: (L) The reason I ask this is because I have noticed that certain persons can skew the incoming material in the direction of their particular prejudices because of their emotional attachment to these prejudices. And I am sure that my own prejudices have an influence as well. But, I notice that very often the understanding of the material by others is quite different from what Frank and I understand. It seems that we all hear something different. Does this indicate a vibrational differential which could be considered a lack of rapport, or some other phenomenon of which I am not aware?

A: The only phenomenon that is present here that is in any way related to the situation you describe is what could be termed intellectual capacity, which is not related directly to vibrational frequency. Think, if you will, in your lifetime have you ever met either a) an individual that you did not perceive to be particularly intellectually developed, who was, nevertheless, of a very kind and loving and giving nature; or b)an individual whom you perceive to have great intellectual capacity who was, nevertheless, extremely selfish and non-giving and not generous and not concerned about anyone's well being but their own?

{And he fell into the trap describing himself exactly.}

Q: (L) Yes. I know exactly what you mean. But there is still some gap that I am trying to fathom here. I have a little theory that people who are en rapport tend to think in similar ways or with similar patterns, even if at different levels. And I think that because of emotional similarity or identity of purpose or orientation, that they might almost begin to think as one mind or move as one body, to work as a unit. Why is this not happening? Why the disparity?

A: The real issue involved is one of intellectual capacity, which, in and of itself, can lead to all sorts of emotional entanglements and frictions. It does not require a differential in vibrational frequency level to produce the types of symptoms that you describe. It is merely intellectual capacity that is inferior rather than the vibrational frequency level. Again, this vibrational frequency level involves nature of being and emotion, not intelligence.

{In the next question, I'm again putting "Frank" off the scent of what I am after.}

Q: (L) I have done a little bit of an assessment on the subject, Frank and I have discussed in all possible ways, and we cannot come up with any reason why persons who are exposed to correct grammar and syntax cannot just pick it up sort of by osmosis so that it is not so jarring to the ears of those who DO care about words and that they are pronounced and used correctly .

A: Intellectual capacity.

Q: (L) Well, it shouldn't take a whole lot of brains to hear what others are saying and to at least imitate it!

A: The greater the intellectual capacity, the greater the chance that each and every facet of intellect will be available for use, growth and stimulation. The lesser the intellectual capacity, the greater the chance that some will not be available. And, the examples you cite of the ability to learn proper grammar by mimicry or understand correct pronunciation and syntax, may merely be the closing off of that particular facet of intellectual capacity, rather than any vibrational frequency level differential. And, it is important for you to be aware of this so that you do not make subjective judgments of an individual or individuals, thinking that they are inferior in intent or desire as opposed to intellectual capacity. Granted that it is an irritant for you and others. But, one way to ease the irritation within yourself is to come to a true and complete understanding of the cause of the irritation. Once you have understood that, then it becomes less irritating. Especially if the cause is one which can be excused or forgiven.

{At this point, Frank is totally at ease and "showing off" his access to knowledge/information, so to say. Thus, the information is significantly more useful. And so, I decide to hit another point as a test.}

Q: (L) Well, that leads me to the next question: the use of words that I find personally offensive. Is this also something that I should excuse? I mean the use of words that relate to body parts, body functions that are very private, and so forth, used as adjectives and adverbs in ordinary speech about ordinary subjects. What is considered to be extreme slang or pornographic language.

A: Well, you should be aware that fighting off such occurrences is rather futile in the particular point in space time that your awareness is emanating from, because it is a part of the environment to an extreme extent at this point. And, whereas it is true that these are symptomatic of negative energy transfer, there is little to nothing that you can do to affect or change any of these.

Q: (L) I don't have to contribute to that negative energy.

A: This is certainly very true. And it would seem that you are not, as a general rule, doing so. However, perhaps it would be helpful, again, for you to understand that it is more a question of changes occurring in the 3rd density environment right now, that you will notice a great many things that you will perceive to be objectionable or distressing, or even frightening in their nature. It is your advanced state of perception and your intellectual capacity, which is also advanced compared against others in your realm, that allows you to have a deeper understanding of all of this. But, and this is understandable, you tend to become, perhaps, too emotionally involved in each individual occurrence, when, after all, it is all part of the bigger picture that is going on around you. And, it would probably be better to focus your attention on this bigger picture rather than the individual distressing elements contained within.

{Now, notice above the not-so-subtle ego stroke. Remember, this is following my "alignment" with Frank in previous questions, the "we're hermanos" maneuver.}

Q: (L) I understand how it is in the rest of the world, and that there is nothing I can do about these things, nor would I try. But, in my own personal environment I do not wish to contribute to that negative energy and I don't think that it is out of line for all members of a group dedicated to bringing in positive energy of knowledge for change not contribute to that energy in their personal lives as well.

A: This is certainly understandable. But, something that you should be aware of is, to a great extent, you have already achieved removal of those things which are objectionable, and therefore dwelling this may not be helpful. The use of such words as you have described, which again, as we reiterate, is indeed symptomatic of changes occurring within the 3rd density level in your particular point in space time, and is a negative energy transfer, one of countless overall, while it is true that this is the nature of what you describe, you have been largely, even if not 100 per cent, successful in removing that particular problem from your environment and from the group you describe, therefore, if there is an occasional contamination, it may be overlooked when compared against your overall success in removing such elements.
 

Keit

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Ivone said:
Dear Laura, I am curious if there is a chance that we have a new session soon, because lot of interesting and important things are happening right now all over the world and in my country is especially hard time to live without jobs and money, and there are lot of problems with weather, climate, politics, world economy and so on. Thank you for your answer, I hope that it was OK to ask.

Hi Ivone. It's quite understandable that during times of high pressure and uncertainty there is a need to get advice "from above", something that will provide a sense of security and hope, or will show "which way the wind is blowing". The things is, we already know which way things go, and even if it's going to be hard, it doesn't mean that there is no hope. In other posts you mentioned that you are worried and scared about what is to come. So maybe if you were to participate more and share with others, it would help you to feel more connected and would assist with dissipating some of the anxiety? It certainly helped me! Just remember that we aren't alone in this! :hug2:
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
Hi Ivone,

Since you placed your question in this thread, I wondered whether you are aware that a new session has already been held on September 7, 2013?

Generally, the place to check out whether any new session might have been held is here. You could add it to your bookmarks/favorites.

As for things to do, maybe reading this topic on External Considering and Good Manners might be a good start? It's a close to home thing and good practice IMO.

Hope this helps a bit. :)
 

Ivone

The Force is Strong With This One
Thanks Laura for your answer, I have found this session very interesting and helpful. The session remainds me to a things I have already read, but it is obvious that sometimes it is good to read them again. Also thanks to Keit and Palinurus. Palinurus thank you for the information of a new sessiom of September 7, I didn`t notice that that there is a new session, I only saw a seesion of May 2013. - maybe it is so, because I am a such beginner in using internet, chat and forums. Thank you all.
 

alteroru486

The Force is Strong With This One
Laura said:
A: You are in the transition and it will accelerate dramatically soon.

Hello,
after nine months I do not see any dramatic changes at all. Do you? Correct me if I am wrong. There are some slight changes in the environment (strange weather), but none at all in political, social and economic situation in any country. The situation is even worse than before.
 

Mr. Premise

The Living Force
alteroru486 said:
Laura said:
A: You are in the transition and it will accelerate dramatically soon.

Hello,
after nine months I do not see any dramatic changes at all. Do you? Correct me if I am wrong. There are some slight changes in the environment (strange weather), but none at all in political, social and economic situation in any country. The situation is even worse than before.
They didn't say it would accelerate for the better. More like that the cleansing, which will be traumatic from our point of view, would accelerate. And it sure seems to me that it has.
 

Zadius Sky

The Living Force
alteroru486 said:
Hello,
after nine months I do not see any dramatic changes at all. Do you? Correct me if I am wrong. There are some slight changes in the environment (strange weather), but none at all in political, social and economic situation in any country. The situation is even worse than before.

Hello alteroru486. Welcome to the forum.

We ask that new forum members introduce themselves in the Newbies section. Nothing personal, just a little bit about yourself and how you found the forum. If you are unsure of what to write, take a look at how others on the board have done it.

:)
 

elle

The Force is Strong With This One
Mr. Premise said:
alteroru486 said:
Laura said:
A: You are in the transition and it will accelerate dramatically soon.

Hello,
after nine months I do not see any dramatic changes at all. Do you? Correct me if I am wrong. There are some slight changes in the environment (strange weather), but none at all in political, social and economic situation in any country. The situation is even worse than before.
They didn't say it would accelerate for the better. More like that the cleansing, which will be traumatic from our point of view, would accelerate. And it sure seems to me that it has.


It's quite the opposite from my point of view.Our society May became sicker than before, but I see a lot more of consciousness about it: people is opening their eyes! It's not that I am happy seeing all this suffering but I am certainly happy seeing people looking for answers, questioning the mode operandi and becoming a change.Its quite inspiring I most say. ;D
 

gottathink

Jedi Master
FOTCM Member
I am seeing a large exposure of psychopaths locally, in local body politics and those in society. They seem to becoming more extreme in their behaviour; "...by their fruits you shall know them." It is like they are coming out of the wood work.
 

Laura

Administrator
Administrator
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FOTCM Member
You have to read SOTT every day to get the big picture.
 

Iron

Dagobah Resident
FOTCM Member
Laura said:
You have to read SOTT every day to get the big picture.

That certainly did the trick for me. Its a daily exercise. And sometimes its really hard to digest how bad things are becoming (Puppet masters and Society's Child in particular).
 

shellycheval

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Iron
Quote from: Laura on Today at 01:49:40 AM

You have to read SOTT every day to get the big picture.

That certainly did the trick for me. Its a daily exercise. And sometimes its really hard to digest how bad things are becoming (Puppet masters and Society's Child in particular).

Indeed it will. SOTT is my morning newspaper. Almost daily reading of Signs of the Times for about ten years now, has created in my head and heart a hermeneutic--a "theory of understanding and interpretation of linguistic and non-linguistic expressions," or a way of knowing or interpreting the world. Daily input of knowledge, no matter how grim, has a cumulative effect on ones outlook and provides a tool for examining and questioning data in a manner that helps one sift though the clutter for the kernel of truth or remove the gloss applied to a topic to persuade or hide the reality of a situation. Such knowledge, IMHO, can over time create internal changes to the observer. There are few, if any, services to humankind of more value than seeking out information that provides a look at reality and publishing it on SOTT. Many thanks to the editors and all who make SOTT possible.
shellycheval
 

Ollie

SuperModerator
Moderator
FOTCM Member
shellycheval said:
Indeed it will. SOTT is my morning newspaper. Almost daily reading of Signs of the Times for about ten years now, has created in my head and heart a hermeneutic--a "theory of understanding and interpretation of linguistic and non-linguistic expressions," or a way of knowing or interpreting the world. Daily input of knowledge, no matter how grim, has a cumulative effect on ones outlook and provides a tool for examining and questioning data in a manner that helps one sift though the clutter for the kernel of truth or remove the gloss applied to a topic to persuade or hide the reality of a situation. Such knowledge, IMHO, can over time create internal changes to the observer. There are few, if any, services to humankind of more value than seeking out information that provides a look at reality and publishing it on SOTT. Many thanks to the editors and all who make SOTT possible.
shellycheval
Ditto, and in total agreement there, SotT is the only newspaper worth reading for glimpsing reality in a crazy world.
 

nicklebleu

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Yep ... I'd like to express my thanks to the SOTT news team too. Had email delivery problems a while ago and only received the news sporadically - I felt a big hole in my life!

Thankfully that problem hasn't occured anymore!

Thanks again for your great work!
 
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