Session 4 April 2015

[globalgrrl]

Re: Session 4 April 2015 Konstantin

Konstantin, What you described was explained by the C's as a function of anticipation. The C's urge non-anticipation, or not wishing about outcomes, because any outcome you can imagine, either good or bad, becomes nullified by the very act of imagining it as an outcome. That is why nothing ever works out the way you think it will, because you have thought of all the outcomes you can perceive, so one you didn't perceive becomes reality. Here, maybe this link at the glossary will give you understanding better than my poor explanation. http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=110

 

[loreta]

I was just thinking about Proust because of the sentence of the C's. I made a relation about the word "thought" and the word time. Maybe, surely, I am out of the reality of this subject. "only a thought away", as out of time, no time no space. And no time, no space is the subject of the work of Proust.

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This word "thought" said by the C's made me think about time and time made me think about Proust. It was just an idea I shared, maybe because I have imagination. :)

LOL on that last part. :) And thank you, Loreta, for your explanation. Now I understand how you could make these connections that you made with Proust.

*****
As the C’s said —

A: We ride the Wave and thus are much "closer" than you can imagine. At the same time, imagination is the most direct way to comprehend that we are only a thought away.

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So — I can see that using our imaginations is the most direct way to comprehend that they are only a thought away — and that “a thought away” is much closer than we can imagine.

I imagine that thought probably travels faster than the speed-of-light. So, if the C’s are as close as a thought away, they're pretty darn close, yes?

Cheers & thanks again for your clarification. :)

I am very ignorant with the quantum theory, I don't have enough information and if it is mathematical I am zero for this, but I have the impression that Proust had an idea about the quantum theory. Plus, for him we can change the past, going to it and understand what happened and why and the consequences of our actions. So when we "travel" to the past, and his novels are about time and past and present and future (you can take any book of his work without following a rule), we not just re-live a situation but we understand with new eyes. That reminds me also what Laura said about that we can change the past, but I don't know where I read her sentence!

 

[Laura]

A bit more on how well 4D STS can see 3D when they want to:

Q: (L) ... Now, I
have some articles in this magazine here: This is Lyssa
Royal and she has "channeled for thousands around the
globe since 1985. Her books and magazine articles are
published in six languages worldwide. Etc., etc.," She
writes here: "The human consciousness is roughly divided
into three different areas for the sake of this
illustration: the conscious mind, the subconscious mind
and the unconscious mind." Now, are these labels
generally correct?

A: Roughly.

Q: (L) She says: "The unconscious mind is a link to your
greater self, it is also used as a wasteland where scary,
dark things are stored that you really don't want to bring
up." Is this a fairly accurate statement?

A: Semi-accurate.

Q: (L) Is there anything you can say to make the statement
more accurate?

A: The unconscious mind is also a conduit for connecting with
the higher self, other selves, and the universal mind.

Q: (L) Lyssa also says: "When you are a child and have a
traumatic event, the subconscious not only finds a way to
immediately process the information and store it, but also
to protect you from further fragmentation. It must seek
to create a balance." So, she says, the "very intense raw
energy that is generated from trauma gets stuffed into the
unconscious mind." Is this true?

A: Close enough.

Q: (L) She then goes on to say: "When an extraterrestrial
looks at us, we seem like multiple personality cases to
them because of our mind divisions." Is this true?

A: Irrelevant.

Q: (L) Why is that irrelevant? Is it because when a higher
density being looks at us they know what they are looking
at?

A: Yes. They know and understand the separations of your
minds quite precisely. That would be like saying "when a
human looks at a rodent, they notice that they are
excessively furry."

Q: (L) She goes on to say: "The ET often does not know how to
communicate with a fragmented human. Sometimes they fly
their ships by and few people may see them, but the
greater percentage do not see them as that data gets
sucked into the subconscious and the triage occurs." She
means triage in the sense of the mind being so
flabbergasted that it immediately shunts information into
the unconscious. Is this true, that ET's are having
problems communicating with us because we are the one's
blocking contact?

A: No.

Q: (L) Is it true that some people may not see ET's or UFO's
because they block it from their own minds?

A: This can happen or the blockage may be inspired by the
alien.

Q: (L) Now, she says: "For the most part, the average person
in society does not know how to interpret telepathic
contact... (Lyssa's alien talking) in the moment you start
perceiving us reality starts shifting because, remember,
you are one frequency and we are another." Is this true?

A: It is irrelevant.

Q: (L) Why is that irrelevant?

A: This is not an obstacle, as suggested by this statement.

Q: (L) Anyway, the article goes on: "So an ET walks up to you
in your backyard and for a fragment of a moment you may
perceive us. But what commonly happens is that the human
will suddenly shut down usually by becoming very sleepy
and falling into a sleep or type of trance state such as
one that is produced by alpha or theta brain waves." Is
this true? When a person sees an ET do they just turn off
from the shock? Is this why most ET contact is not
remembered?

A: It can happen but does not usually.

Q: (L) So, in effect, we ARE the new Neanderthals on the eve of extinction. You have said that those who transition into 4th density in the body will go through some kind of rejuvenation process or body regeneration or something. Does that mean that these present "Neanderthal" type bodies that we presently occupy will morph into something more in line with the new model? Is it genetically encoded into some of them to do so?

A: Something like that.

Q: (L) So, that's why they have been following certain bloodlines for generation after generation; they are tinkering with the DNA and arming genetic time-bombs that are waiting to go off. (A) What is interesting is how do those who are trying to get these people, to abduct them, how do they spot them? How do they get the information? By following the bloodline, or by some kind of monitor you can detect from a long distance - and they can note that "here is somebody of interest" or "here is somebody dangerous" or "let's abduct this one" or whatever. How do they select? Do they search the genealogies or is it some kind of remote sensing?

A: Now this is interesting Arkadiusz, as it involves the atomic "signature" of the cellular structure of the individual. In concert with this is the etheric body reading and the frequency resonance vibration. All these are interconnected, and can be read from a distance using remote viewing technology/methodology.

Q: (L) Can it be done in a pure mechanical way without using psychic means?

A: At another level of understanding, the two are blended into one.

Q: (T) Computerized psychic remote viewing, maybe. Like artificial intelligence. Maybe a mind connected to a computer?

A: That is close, yes.

Q: (T) Which we are not capable of yet - that we know of, anyway. (J) I'll bet the Russians are. (L) Why?

A: Work? Yes. Succeed? Not much.

There is also quite a bit in the transcripts about implanted tracking devices that provide information beyond anything conceived of on earth.

That point is, do NOT think that you can't be seen or tracked, or that some frequency caused "invisibility" is ANY kind of protection!!! Vigilance is paramount and only Knowledge Protects.

 

[Charade]

"It’s not just an electronic glitch that upsets me: it’s the chaos."

"The chaos is not trivial—it’s huge. "

I agree. Chaos isn't only a catastrophic event. It's also the smaller events that have the potential to snowball into catastrophe. Our service to others can begin within the realm of the mundane and the forgettable. To mindfully disregard our frustrations over the little things! As if to water the flame before it becomes a blaze.


I really like your point - viewing aggravating and frustrating moments as "it's the chaos". It can be a quick mental reminder and "snapshot" of self observation that can "corral" the loss of emotional energy. This phase can be very useful IMO. Thanks for sharing.

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[goyacobol]

"It’s not just an electronic glitch that upsets me: it’s the chaos."

"The chaos is not trivial—it’s huge. "

I agree. Chaos isn't only a catastrophic event. It's also the smaller events that have the potential to snowball into catastrophe. Our service to others can begin within the realm of the mundane and the forgettable. To mindfully disregard our frustrations over the little things! As if to water the flame before it becomes a blaze.

I really like your point - viewing aggravating and frustrating moments as "it's the chaos". It can be a quick mental reminder and "snapshot" of self observation that can "corral" the loss of emotional energy. This phase can be very useful IMO. Thanks for sharing.

Charade,

I think you are on to something with "it's the chaos" being a useful reminder to "corral" the loss of emotional energy. I can't help but think the Cs also talk about "chaos" and how it is used to drain our energy and manipulate us. With all the events ahead of us we are all faced with dealing with the "chaos". Some of it is everyday stress and making ends meet. Some of it may be dealing with our "predator's mind". Although we tend to not wish to deal of the potential "chaos" ,since there is more than enough to keep us busy "corralling" the chaos we have just in our current situations, the knowledge of future potential chaos may also protect us.

With the bigger picture in mind I hope I am not distracting by mentioning some other ways to view "chaos".

Alien Influences


Session 30 September 1994

Q: (L) Who were the Annunaki?
A: Aliens.
Q: (L) Where were they from?
A: Zeta Reticuli.
Q: (L) Do they come here every time the comet cluster is approaching to sap the souls energy created
by the fear, chaos and so forth?
A: Yes.

Brown Star Influences - Realm Border and the Wave

Session 3 August 1996

Q: (T) Where are we? We have a dark star flinging comets like bowling pins...
A: Your Biblical prophecies speak of a period of terror and chaos followed by calm, and then, unexpectedly, amidst seeming
overwhelming peace and renewal and prosperity, the end.
Q: (L) Okay, elucidate, please.
A: No, you elucidate, please!
Q: (L) Okay, I would say that this "end" is the passing through the "realm border," the "wave."
A: Yes, but don't you know of the prophecies we are referencing?

Session 3 August 1996

A: What would happen if the brown star that is the sun's twin were to get close enough to be illuminated by the sun?
Q: (T) Well, if it were close enough to be illuminated, the obvious result is that it would be SEEN. People would panic...
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Governments would fall...
A: And terror and chaos. And when it departs again?
Q: (L) Everything will seem to be fine! But, they won't realize that the Oort cloud has been hit! Oh, sugar!
A: And then what?
Q: (L) It is not the Oort cloud or the comets that is going to cause all this terror and carrying on, it is going to be the seeing of the
illuminated brown star, which will go away, and then no one will see what is coming! And this IS talked about in both the Bible and
Nostradamus - but it was incomprehensible before! Okay, how long will it take the comets to get from the Oort cloud to here?
A: Let us just say that the cluster travels much faster than the usual cometary itinerary.
Q: (T) And this is because they are traveling in the wake of a large sun sized gravity well...
A: And we have spoken of the comet cluster before, and we have told you that this time, it rides the Wave.

Possible Triggering of Programmed Individuals

Session 5 October 1996

Q: (L) Is there also the implanted triggers to activate at a certain point in future time, to create a mass
chaos, in the public domain?
A: Better to discover that one on your own.
Q: (L) Ok, that’s another one that’s dangerous to know right now... (V) Was the person I met last
week, {Name redacted}, was he Greenbaumed? Has he been Greenbaumed. (L) He was bizarre, wasn’t
he?
A: Now, some history... as you know, the CIA and NSA and other agencies are the children of Nazi
Gestapo... the SS, which was experiment influenced by Antareans who were practicing for the eventual
reintroduction of the Nephalim on to 3rd and or 4th density earth. And the contact with the “Antareans”
was initiated by the Thule Society, which groomed its dupe subject, Adolph Hitler to be the all time
mind programmed figurehead. Now, in modern times, you have seen, but so far, on a lesser scale:
Oswald, Ruby, Demorenschildt, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, Arthur Bremer, Farakahan, Menendez,
Bundy, Ramirez, Dahmer, etc...

Orchestrated? Finely Tuned or "Chaotic"?

Session 23 February 2002

Q: (L) Well that's kind of a pun, find out "in deed" - by doing. (R) We are on a very, very interesting path here because we just
defined what a density is. It's a frequency resonance envelope. (A) The question is frequency of what?
A: Yes, of those in the orchestra.
Q: (L) So it is by agreement. (A) What is by agreement? (L) To be in the orchestra, frequency resonance envelope. (B) Not only to
be, but to play within those parameters. (L) Who gets to pick what gets played?
A: Ah! There's the rub!
Q: (B) That means it's up for grabs. Which is why they're interested in us grounding a certain frequency resonance so STS doesn't.
A: No, you don't get to pick the selection at this level. But you in the future does. The question is: How well do you play,
and can you play true if the others don't?
Q: (M) That's the second time they said that. (R) Yeah, okay, so in essence, that means what we are doing now is assembling the
orchestra before the concert, and tuning the instruments. (L) Have you ever sat in the concert hall when they were getting ready,
warming up? (J) It's chaos. (L) It is. (R) But after awhile it starts getting tuned. But that's what this is all about - the whole
Cassiopaean Communication. Were not playing yet. We're just tuning. (L) Yeah. (JN) So if our level of consciousness creates the
barriers of where this wave can go and how it behaves, can we ... (R) No, No. No. Excuse me for interrupting. Our level of
consciousness doesn't create the barriers, it's only aware of those barriers. It can see, okay, what are the barriers: "oh these are the
barriers. I can see, okay. So here's what I get to play." But if your awareness grows, then you get to see an array of barriers. "Okay I
want to play with this bigger one. I can play with the smaller ones if I want to, but I have the awareness to see other barriers that are
more extensive." (L) I think that the concept that we have a hard time grasping is that - going with the analogy - the musical selection
is made, more or less. We at some level - us in the future - have chosen what instrument to play, what part to play. And so, the
options that we really have now are: how well we play, how loud we play, how in tune we play with others; can we practice, can we
stay in tune, can we do any numbers of these things? And even if we find ourselves sitting next to some jerk who can't carry a tune,
and whose instrument is all screwed up, can we still continue to play true? Because even though the rest of the orchestra, being heard
from a distance, may sound quite melodic, because we are sitting next to this guy who can't play, it is possible for us to be distracted
Session there are no detectors yet. My idea was that it is the detectors which make events which make the wave collapse. Until now, in all our
simulations, there is no collapse and no jumps. And yet we speak about consciousness, while there is this other concept that it is
consciousness that makes the wave collapse. Okay. So I see a contradiction and I don't know how to get out of this contradiction.
There is no collapse, and yet there was some encouragement that what we have relates to ...
A: The music is on the page long before it is played.
Q: (R) So, when the orchestra starts playing you have the musical notes, the timing instructions. Right. So it's the same music. You
can play over and over again. But the difference is how well the orchestra plays and how well it is tuned. Okay, so one implication can
be that ...
A: The FRE is the notes on the page. It is the selection. The "playing" constitutes "events." Frequency resonant envelope: FRE.

As you can see from the above excerpt we have a part to play individually in the "orchestra". It may depend on our FRV or FRE whether it will seem beautiful or chaotic.

Chaos and Co-linearity

Session 18 August 2002

Q: (T) Actually since we've been doing the antique shows I've been talking to more people than I have in a long time; people I've
never met you know; people just all over the place out there. Boy, some of them have opinions that make me feel good!
A: Are they co-linear?
Q: (L) Co-linear. Co-linear means going in the same direction. (T) In other words, do they have the same opinions I have? (A) No.
No. Going in the same direction. (L) You don't have to have the same opinions, but you want to go in the same direction. What are
their goals? (T) I don't know, for the most part they're just people I talk to passing through on the shows. I'm only talking to them
for a few minutes. (J) There's no co-linearity there. (A) They are not even co-linear in interest; except for commercial. (T) Well, it
doesn't hurt to try and express the STO philosophy to them as they pass by; be nice and friendly. (A) Yeah, sure. (T) Show them
that the whole world doesn't hate them. (J) Were not quite up to pulling people off the street yet. (T) Do you have any more to say
on this?
A: First you must choose your goals. Then you network with others with similar goals to achieve them. What do you want?
Graduation or repeating the grade?
Q: (T) Oh well graduation is always the best. (L) Well you know what Gurdjieff said - 'No one can escape alone. You have to have a
group and you have to have a plan, and you have to work.' Nobody can do it alone and you have to do it with the help of somebody's
who done it before. It's a very important thing he said about that. He said first you have to understand you're in prison and then you
have to learn about the prison and you have to learn about how to get out, and you can only learn about that from somebody who's
already gotten out. And you can't do it alone because it takes a whole team. (T) To get out? (L) Yeah, that's what he said, and it's
so true. Because the minute you start wiggling around in the matrix, it comes down on your head. (T) Well the matrix is
programmed to keep us here. And keep us stupid. (L) Yeah. Okay, are we done with you Terry? (T) I think so! But I have a
question. What happened to Ark and Laura's computer system this weekend?
A: Mainly it is a psychic signal of impending quantum shift.
Q: (T) Just because the computers went down? Uh, can you expand on that a little bit?
A: Fluidity of reality affects such "hardware" which is sensitive to such flux.
Q: (A) So something is going to shift, reality is fluid, hardware is affected, and all kinds of things happen probably due to the
interaction of what is outside us and the hardware. It's hard to find the real prime reason, see. (L) I think what happens sometimes
is the reality starts fluxing, that you're psychically aware of it and the psychic energy in your own system then affects those things in
your environment that are attuned or sensitive to your psychic energy, and then depending upon your fluxing of your psychic energy it
can signal you. I guess, it's like the black cat walking by twice, that would be one way of putting it. (A) I think it's like with this
magician, the real magicians like the one you were talking about today, who mix what is called slight of hands with real magic, right?
And one helps to other and you can say: Well he isn't showing real magic because it's all tricks. No! Some yes, but some is real
magic. But he's mixing them together because, well it works. The real magic doesn't always work. It works once in awhile and you
have no full control so you must help with your exercises. It's the same when we interact with our reality. It is fluid when we are in a
certain state. And, when it is fluid because of our state, also electrical things are in a certain state. And some of the things that
happen are probably because of our interaction. What was the reason? Part of the reason was there somehow something unusual
happened, because thousands times you switch and maybe you switched in a different way than always, right? So that's what I
think.
A: Chaos is part of the conditions or the creation of a new reality.
Q: (T) There's a lot of reality out there to break down...(L) It's got to break down. (T) It's in the process of breaking down. What is
the quantum change that's coming? Quantum shift.
A: This depends on the observer.

Chaos and Psychopathy

Session 6 July 2010

Q: (L) Anybody got any questions? (Atriedes) I just wanted to ask about what we were talking about the other day. Is there some
grand plan with BP and these corporations, or are they just being so self-centered that they're causing all this havoc? (L repeating for
the tape) Okay, the question is is there a grand plan of the BP people and the various individuals who are screwing things up? I mean,
are they planning some kind of ultimate objective?
A: Your assessment is correct, it is the natural chaos that follows psychopathy wherever it goes.

I hope my ramblings are not too chaotic. I am learning by re-remembering by searching the records so to speak. I hope this is somehow relevant. :/

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[gdpetti]

Q: (L) Can it be done in a pure mechanical way without using psychic means?

A: At another level of understanding, the two are blended into one.

Q: (T) Computerized psychic remote viewing, maybe. Like artificial intelligence. Maybe a mind connected to a computer?

A: That is close, yes.

Sounds like the Celebro of X-Men fame in which Dr. Xavier finds people using his mind in this machine.

 

[cubbex]

For now, I think this is enough to think about but that is just how I "feel" right now. :)

Thanks.

I've been reading the wave and I agree on this. It appears that what I feel and some have felt, is related to the wave but also the natural process Laura calls, the initiation of the shamans, and the natural emotional effects of the work. Stripping the personality to discover the essence, and sometimes this comes with observing feeling interaction along with understandings and previous knowledge.

I have also been thinking about information permutations. Gurdjieff says in one of his interviews if I recall, that we cannot change anything. At the beginning yes this sounds insulting to my ego, but when one observes technology and how this is build like a ladder, it is not that we change things we just discover how nature works and how we can manipulate it. So I have watchted a recent video from "Science World Festival" in youtube that is a debate about dark energy and dark matter. Scientist talking about dark energy says that what may be possible, is that if there are multiple universes is not that they are different because they have different substances or they are made of different stuff, but they are just different configurations, and this again relate to what Laura talks in the wave volume 1 on multiple dimensions, and how important is to observe reality that is the present, and how these configurations are manifesting. A lot of food for thought on the cs idea of thinking in absolute limitless terms, non anticipation. Because even if the basis of the universe is always the same like the Wave, it appears that these factors can interact in almost infinite ways and if we wait for one specific manifestation we may lose the other types of configurations already being manifested.

 

[Stefan]

It involves the atomic "signature" of the cellular structure of the individual. In concert with this is the etheric body reading and the frequency resonance vibration. All these are interconnected, and can be read from a distance using remote viewing technology/methodology

I have a question, since they see us upon request. For me it is mind boggling how they are able to do it. This is an inter dimensional technology. You have to literally go down a black hole to enter another space and planets to find organisms there. But instead, they produce one of their own. We are creating their reality for them. Earth and all of us. They see us like a 2D space constructed by 1D particles (and we live on one of the little particles), plus one more dimension! What world we create for them is anyone's guess! They have access to our different timelines. They can see our past and they can manipulate it, that would serve their needs for the purposes they only know why. They know the future too, to the limit of their conscious awareness and of course, to the limit of their own plane of existence, which is one Universe that sits on top of ours, within their own line of parallel Universes. They only choose to see what they know it is there. We can only choose to create something different up there so they can respond back. And what kind of world they are creating on the upper Universe, called heaven? Or 5D? Matter cannot be 'sensed' any more, ever, just one wonders the magical spectacular light show and images our Universe creates for us to see, but! We only see our own, unique Universe, always out of infinitely possible ones. We experience our direct results of what we have already experienced down under, but we need to ascend to different realm, which is, of course, 6D, and we can't ascend to 6D, if we are going to be left 'down under' for quite some time in 3D, We don't want to be here in 3D for obvious reasons. We are stuck together, we want to move forward, no one can do it alone. We need to raise up our conscious awareness collectively, to amplify it by learning from one another. Nobody can do it alone. All of the humanity needs to be 5D in 3D bodies, and it is going to take time to learn, but it will be very obvious what needs to be done. Have faith!

So, if we want to go to 7D, which is the ultimate goal after all, we need to become the C's to be able to enter the 4D human bodies that guess what, they are already there! Due to the scale of perception and timeless Universe, our DNA has been transformed already 'in the future'. So, the future of NOW is not about when, but where! So let's try to be 5D light beings in 3D bodies first, and that is the Wave all about! So the 6th Way is already being talked about in 5D, and the 7th Way that is already being talked about in 6D, and we are talking about the 4th Way, and what is the 3rd Way, that is the moon talking about too!

 

[goyacobol]

For now, I think this is enough to think about but that is just how I "feel" right now. :)

Thanks.

I've been reading the wave and I agree on this. It appears that what I feel and some have felt, is related to the wave but also the natural process Laura calls, the initiation of the shamans, and the natural emotional effects of the work. Stripping the personality to discover the essence, and sometimes this comes with observing feeling interaction along with understandings and previous knowledge.

I have also been thinking about information permutations. Gurdjieff says in one of his interviews if I recall, that we cannot change anything. At the beginning yes this sounds insulting to my ego, but when one observes technology and how this is build like a ladder, it is not that we change things we just discover how nature works and how we can manipulate it. So I have watchted a recent video from "Science World Festival" in youtube that is a debate about dark energy and dark matter. Scientist talking about dark energy says that what may be possible, is that if there are multiple universes is not that they are different because they have different substances or they are made of different stuff, but they are just different configurations, and this again relate to what Laura talks in the wave volume 1 on multiple dimensions, and how important is to observe reality that is the present, and how these configurations are manifesting. A lot of food for thought on the cs idea of thinking in absolute limitless terms, non anticipation. Because even if the basis of the universe is always the same like the Wave, it appears that these factors can interact in almost infinite ways and if we wait for one specific manifestation we may lose the other types of configurations already being manifested.

Prometeo,

If I am understanding you, you mean we really cannot "change" nature but need to understand it and go with the natural flow? And the understanding is probably not an all at once and done job. When you say "how we can manipulate it" it sounds a bit STS but then we are STS and only STO candidates. I think at 3D level we may be starting to see the manipulation of nature from a higher 4D level of technology which only takes advantage of "natural" forces.

The reason I said "just how I "feel" right now" is because as you mentioned I too am thinking about "information permutations". Trying to absorb "information permutations" I think causes us to go through many different "feelings" and emotions. :) :( :)

 

[13 Twirling Triskeles]

I am very ignorant with the quantum theory, I don't have enough information and if it is mathematical I am zero for this, but I have the impression that Proust had an idea about the quantum theory. Plus, for him we can change the past, going to it and understand what happened and why and the consequences of our actions. So when we "travel" to the past, and his novels are about time and past and present and future (you can take any book of his work without following a rule), we not just re-live a situation but we understand with new eyes. That reminds me also what Laura said about that we can change the past, but I don't know where I read her sentence!

Join the club, Loreta. I, too, am very ignorant about quantum theory. And I am also ignorant about Proust. I've read many of the classical authors -- but Proust was one I missed -- so I didn't know his stories were about time.

As for changing the past, I think it is possible -- at least in certain ways. For instance, healing past wounds seems to change the past in some way. Maybe because, as we look back & see what decisions we made at the moment we experienced these traumas, we realize we can now make a different decision in our present time. And our new decisions seem to change our viewpoint of the past events.

So whether we have technically and objectively changed the past, it seems we have subjectively changed something about that past experience. It appears as if we have certainly changed our present and future by changing our past decision. That may be an example of understanding with new eyes, as you say.

On a slightly different tangent, a woman told me that she and her mother both suffered from constipation. After this women did some therapy about past sexual abuse during her childhood, her constipation disappeared. But the amazing thing was that her mother's constipation also disappeared.

So it seemed as if her own healing work affected not only her own present and future, but traveled back to her ancestral line (her mother) and healed her mother as well. I thought that was astounding and I said to her -- Wow! That makes the work of healing my own past wounds more worth doing than if I were healing just for myself. To be able to help heal some of my own mother's past wounds by healing my own is the best of all reasons for me to do this work.

Anyway, that's the story. It's an interesting hypothesis and would be wonderful if we could verify that this could actually happen, yes?

Cheers, Loreta. And thank you once again for clarifying the Proust connection to time and the C's being just a thought away. :)

 

[Charade]

Quote from goyacobal:

Orchestrated? Finely Tuned or "Chaotic"?

Session 23 February 2002

Quote
Q: (L) Well that's kind of a pun, find out "in deed" - by doing. (R) We are on a very, very interesting path here because we just
defined what a density is. It's a frequency resonance envelope. (A) The question is frequency of what?
A: Yes, of those in the orchestra.
Q: (L) So it is by agreement. (A) What is by agreement? (L) To be in the orchestra, frequency resonance envelope. (B) Not only to
be, but to play within those parameters. (L) Who gets to pick what gets played?
A: Ah! There's the rub!
Q: (B) That means it's up for grabs. Which is why they're interested in us grounding a certain frequency resonance so STS doesn't.
A: No, you don't get to pick the selection at this level. But you in the future does. The question is: How well do you play,
and can you play true if the others don't?
Q: (M) That's the second time they said that. (R) Yeah, okay, so in essence, that means what we are doing now is assembling the
orchestra before the concert, and tuning the instruments. (L) Have you ever sat in the concert hall when they were getting ready,
warming up? (J) It's chaos. (L) It is. (R) But after awhile it starts getting tuned. But that's what this is all about - the whole
Cassiopaean Communication. Were not playing yet. We're just tuning. (L) Yeah. (JN) So if our level of consciousness creates the
barriers of where this wave can go and how it behaves, can we ... (R) No, No. No. Excuse me for interrupting. Our level of
consciousness doesn't create the barriers, it's only aware of those barriers. It can see, okay, what are the barriers: "oh these are the
barriers. I can see, okay. So here's what I get to play." But if your awareness grows, then you get to see an array of barriers. "Okay I
want to play with this bigger one. I can play with the smaller ones if I want to, but I have the awareness to see other barriers that are
more extensive." (L) I think that the concept that we have a hard time grasping is that - going with the analogy - the musical selection
is made, more or less. We at some level - us in the future - have chosen what instrument to play, what part to play. And so, the
options that we really have now are: how well we play, how loud we play, how in tune we play with others; can we practice, can we
stay in tune, can we do any numbers of these things? And even if we find ourselves sitting next to some jerk who can't carry a tune,
and whose instrument is all screwed up, can we still continue to play true? Because even though the rest of the orchestra, being heard
from a distance, may sound quite melodic, because we are sitting next to this guy who can't play, it is possible for us to be distracted
Session there are no detectors yet. My idea was that it is the detectors which make events which make the wave collapse. Until now, in all our
simulations, there is no collapse and no jumps. And yet we speak about consciousness, while there is this other concept that it is
consciousness that makes the wave collapse. Okay. So I see a contradiction and I don't know how to get out of this contradiction.
There is no collapse, and yet there was some encouragement that what we have relates to ...
A: The music is on the page long before it is played.
Q: (R) So, when the orchestra starts playing you have the musical notes, the timing instructions. Right. So it's the same music. You
can play over and over again. But the difference is how well the orchestra plays and how well it is tuned. Okay, so one implication can
be that ...
A: The FRE is the notes on the page. It is the selection. The "playing" constitutes "events." Frequency resonant envelope: FRE.

As you can see from the above excerpt we have a part to play individually in the "orchestra". It may depend on our FRV or FRE whether it will seem beautiful or chaotic.



I love this reference to chaos and the metaphors of an orchestra at the beginning of a concert tuning up. After spending this morning catching up on this thread my head feels exactly like I've been hearing different instruments playing snips of musical notes ... So many perspectives and bits of the subjects brought up in the session. It seems confusing but to make an analogy that each person is like a particular instrument with bits of the score rehearsed makes sense.


A: Exactly! We once said that it was a grand example of cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance". You simply do not have the full perspective!


I often connect "Pomp and Circumstance" to The Wave. It is a graduation event and perhaps this music is a clue to the frequency / ...qualities that are expressed in this music to me are : Measured steps, dignity, honor, acquired knowledge, deserved accomplishment, achievement, focused exertion and thought, physical, emotional, mental discipline to name a few.

I sense we truly are learning to play music that is a compilation of our collective journey. I am confident we are "tuning" and that we will succeed in our striving by our collective efforts and contributions.

 

[Palinurus]

Regarding Pomp and circumstance: this is a reference to compositions of Sir Edward Elgar.

The complete set contains six of them: Pomp and Circumstance Marches

Here is a performance of the most well known one of the lot, Land of Hope and Glory:

http://<iframe width="853" height="...Us" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Enjoy, or not...

 

[mkrnhr]

According to Wikipedia, The title is taken from Act III, Scene 3 of Shakespeare's Othello:

Farewell the neighing steed and the shrill trump,
The spirit-stirring drum, th'ear-piercing fife,
The royal banner, and all quality,
Pride, pomp, and circumstance of glorious war!

Haven't read the play though.

 

[Leonarda]

Regarding Pomp and circumstance: this is a reference to compositions of Sir Edward Elgar.

The complete set contains six of them: Pomp and Circumstance Marches

Here is a performance of the most well known one of the lot, Land of Hope and Glory:


Enjoy, or not...

How can anybody not enjoy that? ;D Thank you Palinurus, it's breathtaking!

 

[Charade]

Regarding Pomp and circumstance: this is a reference to compositions of Sir Edward Elgar.

The complete set contains six of them: Pomp and Circumstance Marches

Here is a performance of the most well known one of the lot, Land of Hope and Glory:

http://<iframe width="853" height="...Us" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Enjoy, or not...

Thanks Palinurus,

I greatly enjoyed it. It had a cleansing effect ,,, it brought tears to my eyes. Hope and Triumph welling up from within. AHhhh. A TRIUMPHANT & Glorious humanity awaits. Possibly? A Land of Hope and Glory, I'd like to imagine us in that place just a breath or thought away.... Uplifting.
JK there's Work to be done first.
(I also appreciate you taking the time to post this as I doubt I have the computer skills to do so).