Patricia Ann
A Disturbance in the Force
Great session! Thank you for sharing
Session 4 April 2015
- Thread starter Laura
- Start date
Mandrak said:
Can I ask Mandrak, why you simply didn't join the conversation and share your suspicions about hacking of the autopilot system? Perhaps no one else thought of it? It would have certainly added to the conversation and that is the point of a network - to share what others may not see. ;)
It is unlikely that a heart condition developed over a very short time from eating eggs, however, many people are sensitive to eggs (especially the egg whites). Most food sensitivities are readily noticeable after removing them from your diet for a period of time, then trying them again to see how you react. My best guess though, is the heart condition is not caused by egg consumption.
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beautiful ... thank you all! 
Divide by Zero
The Living Force
Arwenn said:
I have been in full ketosis for a few months now having slipped off the wagon a few times especially when being away. But for some reason this I am so very tired! I might be one of those people that needs to add some more carbs. Will post in the keto thread about this.
Thanks once again.
Yeah, I've been having energy issues too especially when I was strict on no carbs. So a Paleo diet is better for some of us rather than the Keto.
I wanted to get my iron tested a few months ago, but the hassle of the doctor dissuaded me from it.
Thanks Chateau Crew for another great session! There is much to ponder...
... and much more to do.
... and much more to do.
Foxx
The Living Force
Really fascinating session! Thanks for sharing and transcribing it so quickly!
This is really fascinating to me. Having spent A LOT of time working with my own health challenges, it's been a really eye opening process in terms of seeing how the treatments need to be individually tailored. An example I have is when I felt like I wasn't having good results with the magnesium supplementation I was doing, so I took practically every form of magnesium I could find (I think I had at least 6 types with me) to the Applied Kinesioloigist I've been working with and asked him: "Which form is best for me and how much should I take?". Turned out two forms (gluconate and malate) were the best for me and I apparently had a negative reaction to Magnesium Citrate (as in: don't take it).
While some things certainly appear to be universally bad (gluten, dairy, soy, etc), I think others may fall into a gray area and can be positive for some while being negative for others, or positive for a person for a period of time while some process is taking place and then either unnecessary or negative, and various other factors for reasons that are hard (if not impossible) to isolate on an individual basis. The body is such a complex machine with so many factors involved (genetics, epigenetics, nutrient deficiencies, heavy metals, environmental toxins, pathogens, etc, etc) that it's incredibly hard to know for sure what's going on and how to proceed.
I've worked with computers for decades and often times things won't work when they should and since they're complex machines, it's not always possible to know why, but it is often possible to fix them without knowing why by changing the working variables and state they're in. In this way, I think of it as working with something of a black box and trying to figure how to get the inside to work and get the right outputs without being able to open it up. I think the human body is somewhat similar, though many orders of magnitude more complex, with various inputs and outputs and we have diagrams for how it works and how it should work, but the diagrams aren't always complete or are sometimes wrong or may be different than how the black box is actually working for reasons that are unknown, but by knowing a lot about the diagrams and having a better working model, it's possible to fix the output (how we feel and how our bodies work) by changing the inputs with educated guesses and carefully observing. In that way, it's possible to fix a not fully understood thing (the human body, in this case) by carefully mapping out the inputs and outputs and doing experiments. I suppose that process also builds knowledge and then makes the thing better understood in a certain way. So I think we can gather knowledge as best we can, then run experiments with ourselves and observe the output to see if we can figure out if the data applies to our specific situation or not, and also network about the results to get a better understanding (to create a more complete model of the functioning of the human body).
That's also really sweet and heart warming that Sebastian is still with you! I believe that the Cs said that 2D partly learns to become 3D by being around 3D beings, so maybe if a 2D being is around 3D beings learning to be 4D beings, it can pick up enough 3D lessons and, with a strong enough bond, can "skip a grade". That's fascinating. And also really weird in imagining him becoming a 4D being and then you all getting to know the 2D pet that you all had in this lifetime as a 4D being while also being 4D beings.
Laura said:
This is really fascinating to me. Having spent A LOT of time working with my own health challenges, it's been a really eye opening process in terms of seeing how the treatments need to be individually tailored. An example I have is when I felt like I wasn't having good results with the magnesium supplementation I was doing, so I took practically every form of magnesium I could find (I think I had at least 6 types with me) to the Applied Kinesioloigist I've been working with and asked him: "Which form is best for me and how much should I take?". Turned out two forms (gluconate and malate) were the best for me and I apparently had a negative reaction to Magnesium Citrate (as in: don't take it).
While some things certainly appear to be universally bad (gluten, dairy, soy, etc), I think others may fall into a gray area and can be positive for some while being negative for others, or positive for a person for a period of time while some process is taking place and then either unnecessary or negative, and various other factors for reasons that are hard (if not impossible) to isolate on an individual basis. The body is such a complex machine with so many factors involved (genetics, epigenetics, nutrient deficiencies, heavy metals, environmental toxins, pathogens, etc, etc) that it's incredibly hard to know for sure what's going on and how to proceed.
I've worked with computers for decades and often times things won't work when they should and since they're complex machines, it's not always possible to know why, but it is often possible to fix them without knowing why by changing the working variables and state they're in. In this way, I think of it as working with something of a black box and trying to figure how to get the inside to work and get the right outputs without being able to open it up. I think the human body is somewhat similar, though many orders of magnitude more complex, with various inputs and outputs and we have diagrams for how it works and how it should work, but the diagrams aren't always complete or are sometimes wrong or may be different than how the black box is actually working for reasons that are unknown, but by knowing a lot about the diagrams and having a better working model, it's possible to fix the output (how we feel and how our bodies work) by changing the inputs with educated guesses and carefully observing. In that way, it's possible to fix a not fully understood thing (the human body, in this case) by carefully mapping out the inputs and outputs and doing experiments. I suppose that process also builds knowledge and then makes the thing better understood in a certain way. So I think we can gather knowledge as best we can, then run experiments with ourselves and observe the output to see if we can figure out if the data applies to our specific situation or not, and also network about the results to get a better understanding (to create a more complete model of the functioning of the human body).
That's also really sweet and heart warming that Sebastian is still with you! I believe that the Cs said that 2D partly learns to become 3D by being around 3D beings, so maybe if a 2D being is around 3D beings learning to be 4D beings, it can pick up enough 3D lessons and, with a strong enough bond, can "skip a grade". That's fascinating. And also really weird in imagining him becoming a 4D being and then you all getting to know the 2D pet that you all had in this lifetime as a 4D being while also being 4D beings.
Foxx
The Living Force
Divide By Zero said:
You don't need to see a doctor to get the blood work done; you can order the test online and go to a facility to have the blood drawn and then get the results. I did it and it was pretty easy, and I liked ordering my own blood work rather than having to work with a doctor (I especially liked not having to work with a doctor). I ordered through Life Extension--to test Hemochromatosis, I think you'd need these two tests:
http://www.lef.org/vitamins-supplements/ItemLC001321/Iron-and-Total-Iron-Binding-Capacity-Blood-Test
http://www.lef.org/vitamins-supplements/ItemLC004598/Ferritin-Blood-Test
and possibly this one for a full test:
http://www.lef.org/vitamins-supplements/ItemLC004937/Transferrin-Blood-Test
They have an article about it here (linking to the page on diagnosis):
http://www.lef.org/Protocols/Metabolic-Health/Hemochromatosis/Page-05
I think the first two tests would probably be enough to indicate if there was a problem with iron overload, but I'm not 100% sure. If you sign up for their subscription membership ($6.95/month), you can get significant discounts on the blood work. I did this and canceled after the second month (I forgot to cancel before the automatic renewal while debating getting more blood work).
I'm still shaking inside around those concepts about having/not having a soul, or having to wait for one, or not having one at all. I also recall my Gurdjieff readings on the topic and it makes me shiver. Recognizing myself as quite thick, I sometimes fall into despair for lack of understanding of our 'reality'. Anyway... VERY valuable session. 
Thanks!
Thanks!
LMJ
Padawan Learner
:) :) :) Many thanks to Laura and Crew and the C's for this interesting and informative session. Lots to learn and think about regarding this one. I also want to express condolences for Sebastian. So sorry he is gone but also glad you can feel and sense that he is still with you.
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abeofarrell
Guest
Very informative! Thank you for sharing.
FrankM4326754
Jedi Master
Laura and crew thanks for the great session!
Implying that we are the manifestation, thus to know the Tao, is to know thyself, right?Shared Joy said:
Seems like that same saying used variously: "All the worlds a play/dream, and each must play their part; but you are the dream, you are the dreamer."
And our dreams always start in the dark, bringing order and chaos in their turn.
We find that which we seek, first one, then the other, until we realize they are but one, as are we reflecting their vital energies, their Tao.
osis. There was a similar quote about the darkness being like a blank canvas that L quoted in an earlier session, needed for the light to paint on... or something like that.
And as for us, I liked the one about how the cow doesn't affect the whole herd comment, but prefer T's cigarette butt statement the best in describing our significance and insignificance simultaneously. That was a good one. :D