Have you got his take on this, as I would love to see it? BTW the C's gave Cliff High a big thumbs up in the transcripts:
Q: (L) Is Cliff High at halfpasthuman.com onto something or not?
A: Definitely!
Session 6 July 2024
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Q: (L) Is Cliff High at halfpasthuman.com onto something or not?
A: Definitely!
Artisan Well
Jedi
Unfortunately, I appear unable to insert multiple quotes properly. I meant to compare MJF & Natus Videre posts of the transcripts with reference to visualizations in different contexts. It's probably because Natus was quoting Laura in the part I wanted to excerpt.I'm currently reading The Chrysalids (1955) by John Wyndham.
On page 31, there is a dialogue between David Strorm and Uncle Axel:
In the book, David has telepathic abilities which he is trying to hide in order not to be considered a 'mutant'. Has the author, by attempting to portray the 'symptoms' of telepathy, inadvertently described how Organic Portals process words?
Since Organic Portals are "closer" to the 2D animal realm than individuated souls, is thinking-in-images a remnant of their past telepathic abilities?
Anyway, this is the part:
(A Jay) A number of people across the internet have claimed they have no inner monologue. Similarly, a researcher specializing in inner experience claims that some people never experience inner speech. Both claims, however, rely solely on people's self reports. Is it true that some people never experience inner speech?
A: Yes
Q: (A Jay) If so, why?
A: OP.
Q: (L) Does that mean that they just think in images?
A: Yes
I find this information fascinating and had what I thought was a great insight, but after struggling to quote the passages, it has slipped my mind. I will come back with it when I remember.
Artisan Well
Jedi
It was this post that has triggered so many memories for me today. 1st, your mention of some of the first channeled material you read immediately made me think of Jane Roberts' Seth material. Then when you posted the research material, I started to read it and it triggered another memory, the Willam James After-death Journal linked below. When I was reading that book, I would dream the next section. Meaning that when I would read the next part of the book the next day, I already knew it and had dreamed it the night before. This was in the 80's so a very long time ago. Very strange.You’re welcome, and yes, Don killing himself is definitely an “in your face” lesson on the dangers of denying reality, in my opinion.
The Ra material is kinda special to me, as it was some of the very first channeled information I read, this was back in the 70’s, last century.
The newsletters of the latest channeled material, came via snail mail, all laboriously typed out on a manual typewriter.
My friend and I would spend hours discussing the messages.
ELT
Jedi Master
How troubling it is when, in his case, he's even a content creator, seemingly curious (but then does he really care or is it a mere stimulus in the moment?), and projects an interest in philosophical matter through the film posters on his wall.
So, as a probable OP, he would be very efficient in using different technologies and connecting ideas together to propose some content (that I find very clean), still without having the capacity to invent anything new... as @ScioAgapeOmnis shared in his post.
Well... I also recall the Wave's chapter about John Nash, who was a psychopath, i.e. failed OP, and who received a Nobel Price...
My recent thought relates to the top 5 personality traits.
The personality being shaped according to biological leanings + environmental influences (nature+nurture), it would correspond to the mere conditioning of each individual's machine - OPs and non. It could explain why we can find open and agreeable OPs, as well as disagreable and closed-minded ones.
These would actually only be the default machine's programs in action.
Their chief feature being to not really care about any others but themselves, it could then be sometimes easier to spot than others. For instance, say narcissistic vs. agreeable OPs.
I also find it important to always remind that we're indeed all OPs until we wake up.
Looking forward to listen to the Mind Matter's discussions, thank you guys for your work.
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Sorry to switch tracks again but I just stumbled upon this article, which could have worrying repercussions for the UK as regards the current tense situation prevailing here if this threat should materialise.
ISIS 'feared to be planning big attack' as communication with UK-based terror cell exposed
The persistent menace of Islamic State continues to loom large, with UK counter-terror units tirelessly working to thwart their schemes.Al-Qaeda, the notorious group from which ISIS emerged, is reportedly concocting plans for long-term assaults on European soil with one ISIS plot orchestrated by Iraqi extremists targeting the UK already foiled last year.
Baghdad's top special forces commander has disclosed that his team had eliminated key ISIS leaders and uncovered links to a British ISIS faction. UK counter-terrorism officials requested redactions in our report due to ongoing investigations.
General Abdul Wahab el-Saadi from Baghdad issued a stark caution: "We know ISIS has been talking to UK-based terrorists and we know what they are planning. It is a big attack."
His esteemed elite forces, dubbed the Golden Division, unearthed harrowing plans for a major international conspiracy against Britain after neutralising jihadists in a remote lair. Yet, this might just be the beginning, as ISIS is believed to be relentlessly indoctrinating Brits and other Europeans to execute attacks, often via the internet, reports the Mirror.
Furthermore, there's growing concern that terror networks are exploiting the European refugee crisis, potentially infiltrating operatives amidst the genuine refugees escaping conflict and turmoil in Asia and Africa.
Regrettably, as recent events have shown, this threat is also being exploited by far-right groups aiming to unjustly cast doubt on those genuinely seeking refuge in Europe.
See: MSN
It is all very well saying that the threat is being exploited by far-right groups aiming to unjustly cast doubt on those genuinely seeking refuge in Europe but if the Iraqi intelligence is correct and groups like ISIS are infiltrating operatives in amongst genuine refugees crossing the Channel, then how is it exploitation to warn of this threat if the threat is justified.
I have long harboured doubts about the origins of groups like Al-Queda and ISIS. I recall the late Robin Cook, who was the UK's Foreign Secretary in Tony Blair's Labour Government, stating on record that he thought Al-Queda was the creation of western intelligence agencies. He died of a heart attack during a walking holiday in the Scottish Highlands a few weeks after making this statement. Quoting from Wikipedia:
In a column for the Guardian four weeks before his death, Cook caused a stir when he described Al-Qaeda as a product of a western intelligence:I have long harboured doubts about the origins of groups like Al-Queda and ISIS. I recall the late Robin Cook, who was the UK's Foreign Secretary in Tony Blair's Labour Government, stating on record that he thought Al-Queda was the creation of western intelligence agencies. He died of a heart attack during a walking holiday in the Scottish Highlands a few weeks after making this statement. Quoting from Wikipedia:
Did he really suffer a genuine heart attack or was it a kill shot from a satellite to remove someone who was challenging the official narrative? Who knows?
What was true of Al-Queda might be equally true of ISIS. They seemed to pop out of thin air and suddenly take over a vast swathe of territory in Iraq and Syria, in which they quickly established an Islamic fundamentalist caliphate. Where did they get the funding and weapons from? Their presence in the Middle east certainly provided a useful pretext for the US and European nations to put troops into Syria whilst it was mired in a civil war, ostensibly to fight ISIS and other radical Islamic groups involved in the Syrian conflict, but perhaps with other ulterior motives in mind.
Could we be looking at another false flag here? Time will tell. However, one can only imagine what the reaction of certain sections of the British public will be should another terrorist outrage occur on the scale of the Manchester Arena bombing in which 22 people died and 1,000 were injured. Let us hope such an attack does not materialise.
What was true of Al-Queda might be equally true of ISIS. They seemed to pop out of thin air and suddenly take over a vast swathe of territory in Iraq and Syria, in which they quickly established an Islamic fundamentalist caliphate. Where did they get the funding and weapons from? Their presence in the Middle east certainly provided a useful pretext for the US and European nations to put troops into Syria whilst it was mired in a civil war, ostensibly to fight ISIS and other radical Islamic groups involved in the Syrian conflict, but perhaps with other ulterior motives in mind.
Could we be looking at another false flag here? Time will tell. However, one can only imagine what the reaction of certain sections of the British public will be should another terrorist outrage occur on the scale of the Manchester Arena bombing in which 22 people died and 1,000 were injured. Let us hope such an attack does not materialise.
Artisan Well
Jedi
I feel like some of the conversation here is confusing the OP/Souled with the STS/STO dualities. Perhaps it is me that is confused. Is it really true according to the C's that we (Earth Humans) are all OP's first? I don't remember reading that. Please correct me if I missed it. I do remember reading that we are all STS, though some are STO candidates.
Is there a difference between an OP that grows a soul and those souled beings to which the C's refer as fallen or tricked soul fragments? Because in my understanding they are different.
Perhaps this post belongs in the OP thread.
Is there a difference between an OP that grows a soul and those souled beings to which the C's refer as fallen or tricked soul fragments? Because in my understanding they are different.
Perhaps this post belongs in the OP thread.
Ricardo
Jedi Council Member
just , no , think of "them" as non-individuated consciousness , gnosis calls them EXTERIOR people , for very good "reasons" , to your question arti. , as i recall in between 2nd and third density , in the very remote past , what are now potentially souled humans, were in a similar position. One possible reference to this , Session 23 October 1994.
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Q: (L) We were originally seeded somewhere else? Where? Orion? What is the name of that planet?
A: D'Ankhiar. Ankh is ancient symbolism of this planet. Is female symbol. Stands for mother planet.
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John G
The Living Force
We in 3D STS, as Gurdjieff would say, are still quite mechanical even if half of humanity isn't as mechanical as OPs. We including OPs also all fit in with personality models where biases are said to be born with aspects (half genetic, half bouncing around pre-birth). You can supposedly become more mature in traits you aren't biased towards but the bias supposedly remains.
Personality is very related to learning style models with auditory, visual and kinesthetic and it might be interesting to know if this relates to inner speaking, inner seeing, sensory awareness?
Nash's schizophrenia might be more psychasthenia and other things like melancholic and hypomanic might relate to the unhealthy side of personality and I don't know if OPs hang out closer to the unhealthy side even if they aren't failed ones?
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A bit more thought on this. You may want to read a thread that discusses this starting here.
As Approaching Infinity said:
As AI said, it probably is that way, but it certainly could be seen as "not" also since that was at the end of the question.
Laura posted this:
(Also, I couldn't find the question in the sessions at first because the name was spelled "Clif" just in case anyone is going to look it up.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I am a lawyer by training so I readily appreciate that words have to be used carefully when conveying meaning. Since there is already a long running thread on this subject, I don't wish to go over old ground. I would only point out that the C's added an exclamation mark after the word "definitely", which indicates they wanted to stress the point. I agree with Laura's analysis. How you interpret the results will always raise issues. I once watched a video where Cliff explained his methodology, which certainly impressed me. I would admit that I have not kept up with his work of late but, having had a quick look at the last entries on the thread, this indicates that he is still going strong. Good for him!
BTW the revelation that a UFO may have been spotted at the Trump assassination attempt certainly eluded me. I am not sure if it has been mentioned on the Trump Assassination thread - I am sure someone will say. Assuming it was a genuine UAP and not a man-made surveillance drone, then it makes one think of the extra-terrestrial or underground civilisation's involvement in current events, which makes me also think of the Quorum. There is another possibility though. I seem to recall that the C's once mentioned that interested bystanders, who could be time travellers, were also visiting Earth to observe what for them may be key historic events. If so, was the Trump assassination attempt one such moment in history?
BTW the revelation that a UFO may have been spotted at the Trump assassination attempt certainly eluded me. I am not sure if it has been mentioned on the Trump Assassination thread - I am sure someone will say. Assuming it was a genuine UAP and not a man-made surveillance drone, then it makes one think of the extra-terrestrial or underground civilisation's involvement in current events, which makes me also think of the Quorum. There is another possibility though. I seem to recall that the C's once mentioned that interested bystanders, who could be time travellers, were also visiting Earth to observe what for them may be key historic events. If so, was the Trump assassination attempt one such moment in history?
Perhaps we can find out which name, if we look at the context of the session. Primarily, the Quorum met (is meeting, will meet), for the future of the earth. The purpose of the meeting is to make people go through more suffering in order to awaken them:
Knowing that the C's are us in the future and that the meeting of the Quorum is for the future of the earth we could assume that to that effect from 6th density the attribute or name of god has been set in motion that would bring about the events that the quorum has in mind. Since the communication here is direct to 6th density, it would make sense that on that day the name of god was in full activity. And that is why he presented himself as Nomendei, without being necessary to give the real name, only to point out that the divine attribute/name is in full motion.
Thank you for the sessionPlease have another soon...I am very depressed with anxiety off the charts...these are so important to me...keep these channels open and going. Please keep guiding and assisting us Cs... With gratitude, M
Sorry to hear youre feeling down. Why not open a thread in the Swamp? That would be a lot more helpful for you than clinging to C’s sessions for emotional regulation. They wont save us. We need to save ourselves.
Do Organic Portals read differently?
en.wikipedia.org
When I tried to learn to speed read, it was hard to suppress my internal speech. My reading comprehension rate would plummet as soon as I tried to "visually" read.
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Creating links, associations with newly acquired knowledge takes time. Do genetics play a big role in breaking the internal "sound barrier"?
Speed reading - Wikipedia
When I tried to learn to speed read, it was hard to suppress my internal speech. My reading comprehension rate would plummet as soon as I tried to "visually" read.
