Session 7 February 2015

An odd but related note is Black Elk and mention of Samurai... "A good day to die"

It reminded me of this: http://nbbkaf.org/content/Black%20Shogun.pdf

"For a Samurai to be brave, he must have a bit of Black blood."
--Japanese Proverb

Many early Dakelh peoples were VERY dark, and can be considered black (Called the 'Carrier' people - we reside in the caribou interrior of BC, Canada, quite possibly descending from Japan, as the only language remotely similar to Dakelh is Japanese)
 
Mr.Cyan said:
Thanks Alada for the insights, and reference to the C's replies about Noah's Ark, much appreciated.

Fully agree, and i think my initial view was too focussed in 3D, with a lot of anticipation thrown in. I think we just have to continue to do, what we do, and we will experience what should be experienced. Though we will have difficult choices to make in the coming months; i feel the universe will determine the circumstances, and location we find ourselves when the disasters happen. Definitely can't force things as the C's mentioned.

On a related note, the C's reply "Nothing, however, will stop the balancing" has been constantly on my mind the last few weeks since the session was published, especially when considering all the depressing current global events. Inevitably this also leads me to thoughts about the coming disasters, and the deaths of many humans on this planet.

Giving the issue of Death more thought : with the arrival of the Wave, and new reality in 4D, the prospect for a large portion of humanity (me included) will most probably be death in 3D, or survival in a post-apocalyptic 3D World. Hence i think its important as well that the issue of one's death should be pondered upon.

Just to share with the Forum a few points on death that i have internalised after much thought over the last few weeks:

1. Embrace death anytime, anywhere; as it is part of the cycle of life - and there is no such thing as "good timing".

2. Live everyday with the thought " it is a good day to die today" - like the Samurai code of honour or Bushido.

3. The Work must continue, and we must "fight" till the very end - never give in when facing death, even if all hope fails, and is lost and seems inevitable. Just because we are going to die, doesnt mean we have to easily. A survival story to illustrate this point is the survival of Nando Parrado and the 16 survivors of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 that crashed in the Andes in 1972.

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nando_Parrado

4. If the opportunity arises, choose the cause for your death, make sure it counts and makes a difference to the people around you - my inspiring example is King Leonidas in the Battle against Persians at Thermopylae.

5. When death happens, make sure we know & remember to go towards the light and to the 5D zone of contemplation before soul rebirth.

I really don't mean to be morbid, but i feel the topic of death, in the uncertain times ahead is an important one and should be contemplated, especially when considering that "Nothing, however will stop the balancing".

Thanks Mr. Cyan for brining this up. At our latest NE meetup, I mentioned how even a big economic collapse could doom the world, if commerce fails and nuclear plants don't get the proper materials/energy/etc in order to prevent meltdown! I'm a bit skeptical about the survivalist mentality in that case!

When I think of a post-apocalyptic 3d world, number 3 is kind of a hard one to fathom. Where do we draw the line on survival in a situation where people will be fighting for limited resources and shelter in order to survive? We can twist the idea of the work to mean that we should survive longer- because somehow we matter more. I kind of feel if things got that bad, I would only fight to survive if it means stopping torture/etc for others who can be hurt. I would gladly go down dying if it gave the chance to stop a psychopathic marauder from gaining. Yes, that is STS- but like Malcolm X said- you have to speak the language of your agressors. You can't sit there and peacefully protest someone who is coming to lynch you!

Other than that, f' it, why even try to live in a situation where the odds are so bad that it takes looting/manipulation/domination to survive? I think sometimes that the "romantic" ideal of anarchy forgets that where there is no social order- there is still psychopathic mayhem.
 
Divide By Zero said:
Mr.Cyan said:
Thanks Alada for the insights, and reference to the C's replies about Noah's Ark, much appreciated.

Fully agree, and i think my initial view was too focussed in 3D, with a lot of anticipation thrown in. I think we just have to continue to do, what we do, and we will experience what should be experienced. Though we will have difficult choices to make in the coming months; i feel the universe will determine the circumstances, and location we find ourselves when the disasters happen. Definitely can't force things as the C's mentioned.

On a related note, the C's reply "Nothing, however, will stop the balancing" has been constantly on my mind the last few weeks since the session was published, especially when considering all the depressing current global events. Inevitably this also leads me to thoughts about the coming disasters, and the deaths of many humans on this planet.

Giving the issue of Death more thought : with the arrival of the Wave, and new reality in 4D, the prospect for a large portion of humanity (me included) will most probably be death in 3D, or survival in a post-apocalyptic 3D World. Hence i think its important as well that the issue of one's death should be pondered upon.

Just to share with the Forum a few points on death that i have internalised after much thought over the last few weeks:

1. Embrace death anytime, anywhere; as it is part of the cycle of life - and there is no such thing as "good timing".

2. Live everyday with the thought " it is a good day to die today" - like the Samurai code of honour or Bushido.

3. The Work must continue, and we must "fight" till the very end - never give in when facing death, even if all hope fails, and is lost and seems inevitable. Just because we are going to die, doesnt mean we have to easily. A survival story to illustrate this point is the survival of Nando Parrado and the 16 survivors of Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571 that crashed in the Andes in 1972.

_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nando_Parrado

4. If the opportunity arises, choose the cause for your death, make sure it counts and makes a difference to the people around you - my inspiring example is King Leonidas in the Battle against Persians at Thermopylae.

5. When death happens, make sure we know & remember to go towards the light and to the 5D zone of contemplation before soul rebirth.

I really don't mean to be morbid, but i feel the topic of death, in the uncertain times ahead is an important one and should be contemplated, especially when considering that "Nothing, however will stop the balancing".

Thanks Mr. Cyan for brining this up. At our latest NE meetup, I mentioned how even a big economic collapse could doom the world, if commerce fails and nuclear plants don't get the proper materials/energy/etc in order to prevent meltdown! I'm a bit skeptical about the survivalist mentality in that case!

When I think of a post-apocalyptic 3d world, number 3 is kind of a hard one to fathom. Where do we draw the line on survival in a situation where people will be fighting for limited resources and shelter in order to survive? We can twist the idea of the work to mean that we should survive longer- because somehow we matter more. I kind of feel if things got that bad, I would only fight to survive if it means stopping torture/etc for others who can be hurt. I would gladly go down dying if it gave the chance to stop a psychopathic marauder from gaining. Yes, that is STS- but like Malcolm X said- you have to speak the language of your agressors. You can't sit there and peacefully protest someone who is coming to lynch you!

Other than that, f' it, why even try to live in a situation where the odds are so bad that it takes looting/manipulation/domination to survive? I think sometimes that the "romantic" ideal of anarchy forgets that where there is no social order- there is still psychopathic mayhem.

Divide by Zero,

I "feel your pain" so to speak. I would not want to be here (for long anyway) if that is our fate. It brings to my mind the following:

Session 26 November 1994
Q: (T) We're developing a conduit to move us from 3rd density to 4th density. Once we have moved
through the conduit does that mean we have completed what we came here to do, and that is anchor
the frequency?
A: Partly.
Q: (T) Is the conduit kind of like an escape hatch for us?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Let me get this straight. When we move through this conduit, are the other...
A: You will be on the 4th level earth as opposed to 3rd level earth.
Q: (L) What I am trying to get here, once again, old practical Laura, is trying to get a handle on
practical terms here. Does this mean that a 4th density earth and a 3rd density earth will coexist side
by side...
A: Not side by side, totally different realms.
Q: (L) Do these realms interpenetrate one another but in different dimensions...
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, in other words, a being from say, 6th density, could look at this planet we call the earth and
see it spinning through space and see several dimensions of earth, and yet the point of space/time
occupation is the same, in other words, simultaneous. (J) They can look down but we can't look up.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, in other words, while all of this cataclysmic activity is happening on the 3rd dimensional
earth, we will be just on our 4th dimensional earth and this sort of thing won't be there, and we won't
see the 3rd dimensional people and they won't see us because we will be in different densities which
are not "en rapport", so to speak?
A: You understand concept, now you must decide if it is factual.
End of Session

It kind of makes you want to be a part of the conduit don't you think? :/
 
Goyacobol,
In the meeting RichardS and I were talking about the split mentioned in that session. It does sound like an interesting possibility.

We spoke about what would determine whether one would have to go through the 3d disaster or not.

It seems like it is related to lessons and shocks needed. There are many people on earth, who fail to see the shortcomings of this reality. I have a close friend who knows that the economic system is rigged, science is corrupt- and yet he has this hope that we will discover technology that allows us to overcome these possible disasters.

Perhaps the "simple karmic lesson" in that case, would be to show that humanity is NOT "god" and we do not have any technology close to what would be able to stop the cometary disaster and earth changes.

There also might be an opportunity for 4d STS to pop up after those disasters and "save the day". I feel like they would be the "anti-christ".

Despite those ideas being logical about the reality split, I still feel depressed that things would have to go this far in order to give people a choice. But like the mandate of heaven- perhaps the level of corruption accepted by the majority pretty much sets up the level of the (equal and opposite?) shock that gives people a choice at this realm border crossing?
 
Divide By Zero said:
Goyacobol,
In the meeting RichardS and I were talking about the split mentioned in that session. It does sound like an interesting possibility.

We spoke about what would determine whether one would have to go through the 3d disaster or not.

It seems like it is related to lessons and shocks needed. There are many people on earth, who fail to see the shortcomings of this reality. I have a close friend who knows that the economic system is rigged, science is corrupt- and yet he has this hope that we will discover technology that allows us to overcome these possible disasters.

Perhaps the "simple karmic lesson" in that case, would be to show that humanity is NOT "god" and we do not have any technology close to what would be able to stop the cometary disaster and earth changes.

There also might be an opportunity for 4d STS to pop up after those disasters and "save the day". I feel like they would be the "anti-christ".

Despite those ideas being logical about the reality split, I still feel depressed that things would have to go this far in order to give people a choice. But like the mandate of heaven- perhaps the level of corruption accepted by the majority pretty much sets up the level of the (equal and opposite?) shock that gives people a choice at this realm border crossing?

Divide by Zero,

I am seeing things about the same as you are. I suppose I hope the shock or shocks coming will give people a choice at or before the realm border crossing. It could be though that once the realm border crossing takes place some will die at that point or remain in the apocalyptic earth scenario(myself included). I think those left still have a period of "time" to decide how they want to be in 4D, whether STS/STO. From some of what I remember even in 4D there will be choices and adjustments to be made.

I try to keep remembering this quote, part of which I have in my signature footnotes:

Q: (L) Are they going to have the kind of capability of controlling everything and everybody no matter where they are?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Even if we moved to Guyana and built a log hut in the rain forest and didn't bother anybody, we'd still get sucked into this thing?

A: Laura you will feel the effect of the Lizard beings desperate push for total control no matter where you go.

Q: (L) That is inexpressibly depressing. Do you understand?

A: Why? Change will follow.


Q: (L) Will it follow soon?

A: You are slipping a bit. Refer to Literature "Bringers of the Dawn". Challenge will be ecstasy if viewed with proper perspective which is not, we repeat: not of third level reality, understand?

I am trying to be accepting of what the Cosmos/Universe decides. My main concern is loved ones and friends who don't seem to be waking-up. As for myself I like to try and see it as "a good day to die". :cry: :) :/ :huh:
 
Just adding some more thoughts to the whole "it's a good day to die", survivalist situations, etc. In really bad situations, both the best and the worst come out in people. It's like the ideal time to continue and even complete the Work - everything needed (for shocks, staying conscious / full of attention to stay alive, etc.) will be in oversupply, so to speak, in cataclysmic times. And finally, we will all die at some point, there's no way around it (the body dies). So, there will be many decisions to make at what point it's worth living and when it's best to die. It's like a very intensive and accelerated course for our Lessons to live through these events and times that will quite likely happen in the not too distant future.
 
Hope that clears this up.
Yes, Mr.Premise, more or less,
I understand that FOTCM and The Church of Revived PaleoChristianity is somehow the same membership and one form is enough.

This site
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?board=60.0
is mentioned in the welcome envelope for „discussing the process of earning merrits“ but the site is not available. Is it under refurbishment?

BTW: When I opened the envelope first time I really had the feeling to hold something precious in my hands. When I saw the logo on top of the page I returned it quickly in order to read it in private. Interesting reaction...
Thanks to everybody who was involved.

Thanks for your patience, Mr.Premise.
 
SeekinTruth said:
Just adding some more thoughts to the whole "it's a good day to die", survivalist situations, etc. In really bad situations, both the best and the worst come out in people. It's like the ideal time to continue and even complete the Work - everything needed (for shocks, staying conscious / full of attention to stay alive, etc.) will be in oversupply, so to speak, in cataclysmic times. And finally, we will all die at some point, there's no way around it (the body dies). So, there will be many decisions to make at what point it's worth living and when it's best to die. It's like a very intensive and accelerated course for our Lessons to live through these events and times that will quite likely happen in the not too distant future.

Thanks SeekinTruth, fully agree to your comments about post-cataclysmic / survivalist situations. Besides being an "ideal" time to continue and complete the Work, i feel it is also important Karmic lessons that a soul can gain. The choices one makes considering death, - and the timing, acceptance, and internalisation of it, i think are also important aspects of the Work.

zin, goyacobol,

Thanks as well your comments and for pointing out the Black Elk connection to the quote "its a good day to die". Actually when i wrote the sentence, i was just thinking about a quote to succintly summarise Bushido, and this was the first thought that came to my mind. Glad to know it was mentioned by Laura in the 19th July 2014 session. It must have "stuck" in my subconcious after i read the session and never left.


When I think of a post-apocalyptic 3d world, number 3 is kind of a hard one to fathom. Where do we draw the line on survival in a situation where people will be fighting for limited resources and shelter in order to survive? We can twist the idea of the work to mean that we should survive longer- because somehow we matter more. I kind of feel if things got that bad, I would only fight to survive if it means stopping torture/etc for others who can be hurt. I would gladly go down dying if it gave the chance to stop a psychopathic marauder from gaining. Yes, that is STS- but like Malcolm X said- you have to speak the language of your agressors. You can't sit there and peacefully protest someone who is coming to lynch you!

Divide by Zero,

Yes, the choice we face in the post-apocalyptic scenario will definitely be difficult ones - and will relate to the choice between life and death in a particular instance/situation. As SeekinTruth mentioned, these are indeed the choices that could lead to accelerated learning; and in my view also to crucial Karmic lessons. Your example where you would choose death in order stop a psychopath marauder from gaining is by nature STS action - however the outcomes maybe STO - as you would have saved your family, loved ones or friends from future terrible consequences of the actions of the psychopath if he/she were to live.

This is a complex topic that im still trying to comprehend - and when thinking a bit further, i attach a few excepts from Xenophon's Anabasis to illustrate the choices that we could all face, when confronted with difficult life and death situations. This is the scene, where the generals of the 10,000 Greek mercenary forces were betrayed by their Persian allies and brutally killed. After that the army was leaderless, resigned to death, and surrounded by hostile forces in Persian territory. Xenophon then has a dream, and proceeds to take a leadership role in the army.

Book III - I

After the generals had been seized, and the captains and soldiers who formed their escort had been killed, the Hellenes lay in deep perplexity--a prey to painful reflections. Here were they at the king's gates, and on every side environing them were many hostile cities and tribes of men. Who was there now to furnish them with a market? Separated from Hellas by more than a thousand miles, they had not even a guide to point the way. Impassable rivers lay athwart their homeward route, and hemmed them in. Betrayed even by the Asiatics, at whose side they had marched with Cyrus to the attack, they were left in isolation. Without a single mounted trooper to aid them in pursuit: was it not perfectly plain that if they won a battle, their enemies would escape to a man, but if they were beaten themselves, not one soul of them would survive?

Haunted by such thoughts, and with hearts full of despair, but few of them tasted food that evening; but few of them kindled even a fire, and many never came into camp at all that night, but took their rest where each chanced to be. They could not close their eyes for very pain and yearning after their fatherlands or their parents, the wife or child whom they never expected to look upon again. Such was the plight in which each and all tried to seek repose.

......................

And now in this season of perplexity, he too, with the rest, was in sore distress, and could not sleep; but anon, getting a snatch of sleep, he had a dream. It seemed to him in a vision that there was a storm of thunder and lightning, and a bolt fell on his father's house, and thereupon the house was all in a blaze. He sprung up in terror, and pondering the matter, decided that in part the dream was good: in that he had seen a great light from Zeus, whilst in the midst of toil and danger. But partly too he feared it, for evidently it had come from Zeus the king. And the fire kindled all around--what could that mean but that he was hemmed in by various perplexities, and so could not escape from the country of the king? The full meaning, however, is to be discovered from what happened after the dream.

This is what took place. As soon as he was fully awake, the first clear thought which came into his head was, Why am I lying here? The night advances; with the day, it is like enough, the enemy will be upon us. If we are to fall into the hands of the king, what is left us but to face the most horrible of sights, and to suffer the most fearful pains, and then to die, insulted, an ignominious death? To defend ourselves--to ward off that fate--not a hand stirs: no one is preparing, none cares; but here we lie, as though it were time to rest and take our ease. I too! what am I waiting for? a general to undertake the work? and from what city? am I waiting till I am older mysef and of riper age? older I shall never be, if to-day I betray myself to my enemies.

Thereupon he got up, and called together first Proxenus's officers; and when they were met, he said: "Sleep, sirs, I cannot, nor can you, I fancy, nor lie here longer, when I see in what straits we are. Our enemy, we may be sure, did not open war upon us till he felt he had everything amply ready; yet none of us shows a corresponding anxiety to enter the lists of battle in the bravest style.
"And yet, if we yield ourselves and fall into the king's power, need we ask what our fate will be? This man, who, when his own brother, the son of the same parents, was dead, was not content with that, but severed head and hand from the body, and nailed them to a cross. We, then, who have not even the tie of blood in our favour, but who marched against him, meaning to make a slave of him instead of a king--and to slay him if we could: what is likely to be our fate at his hands? Will he not go all lengths so that, by inflicting on us the extreme of ignominy and torture, he may rouse in the rest of mankind a terror of ever marching against him any more? There is no question but that our business is to avoid by all means getting into his clutches.

"For my part, all the while the truce lasted, I never ceased pitying ourselves and congratulating the king and those with him, as, like a helpless spectator, I surveyed the extent and quality of their territory, the plenteousness of their provisions, the multitude of their dependants, their cattle, their gold, and their apparel. And then to turn and ponder the condition of our soldiers, without part or lot in these good things, except we bought it; few, I knew, had any longer the wherewithal to buy, and yet our oath held us down, so that we could not provide ourselves otherwise than by purchase. I say, as I reasoned thus, there were times when I dreaded the truce more than I now dread war.

"Now, however, that they have abruptly ended the truce, there is an end also to their own insolence and to our suspicion. All these good things of theirs are now set as prizes for the combatants. To whichsoever of us shall prove the better men, will they fall as guerdons; and the gods themselves are the judges of the strife. The gods, who full surely will be on our side, seeing it is our enemies who have taken their names falsely; whilst we, with much to lure us, yet for our oath's sake, and the gods who were our witnesses, sternly held aloof. So that, it seems to me, we have a right to enter upon this contest with much more heart than our foes; and further, we are possessed of bodies more capable than theirs of bearing cold and heat and labour; souls too we have, by the help of heaven, better and braver; nay, the men themselves are more vulnerable, more mortal, than ourselves, if so be the gods vouchsafe to give us victory once again.

"Howbeit, for I doubt not elsewhere similar reflections are being made, whatsoever betide, let us not, in heaven's name, wait for others to come and challenge us to noble deeds; let us rather take the lead in stimulating the rest to valour. Show yourselves to be the bravest of officers, and among generals, the worthiest to command. For myself, if you choose to start forwards on this quest, I will follow; or, if you bid me lead you, my age shall be no excuse to stand between me and your orders. At least I am of full age, I take it, to avert misfortune from my own head."

..................

Thereupon Xenophon spoke as follows: "We all know only too well, that the king and Tissaphernes have seized as many of us as they could, and it is clear they are plotting to destroy the rest of us if they can. Our business is plain: it is to do all we can to avoid getting into the power of the barbarians; rather, if we can, we will get them into our power. Rely upon this then, all you who are here assembled, now is your great opportunity. The soldiers outside have their eyes fixed upon you; if they think that you are faint-hearted, they will turn cowards; but if you show them that you are making your own preparations to attack the enemy, and setting an example to the rest--follow you, be assured, they will: imitate you they will. May be, it is but right and fair that you should somewhat excel them, for you are generals, you are commanders of brigades or regiments; and if, while it was peace, you had the advantage in wealth and position, so now, when it is war, you are expected to rise superior to the common herd--to think for them, to toil for them, whenever there be need.

"At this very moment you would confer a great boon on the army, if you made it your business to appoint generals and officers to fill the places of those that are lost. For without leaders nothing good or noble, to put it concisely, was ever wrought anywhere; and in military matters this is absolutely true; for if discipline is held to be of saving virtue, the want of it has been the ruin of many ere now. Well, then! when you have appointed all the commanders necessary, it would only be opportune, I take it, if you were to summon the rest of the soldiers and speak some words of encouragement. Even now, I daresay you noticed yourselves the crestfallen air with which they came into camp, the despondency with which they fell to picket duty, so that, unless there is a change for the better, I do not know for what service they will be fit; whether by night, if need were, or even by day. The thing is to get them to turn their thoughts to what they mean to do, instead of to what they are likely to suffer. Do that, and their spirits will soon revive wonderfully. You know, I need hardly remind you, it is not numbers or strength that gives victory in war; but, heaven helping them, to one or other of two combatants it is given to dash with stouter hearts to meet the foe, and such onset, in nine cases out of ten, those others refuse to meet. This observation, also, I have laid to heart, that they, who in matters of war seek in all ways to save their lives, are just they who, as a rule, die dishonourably; whereas they who, recognising that death is the common lot and destiny of all men, strive hard to die nobly: these more frequently, as I observe, do after all attain to old age, or, at any rate, while life lasts, they spend their days more happily. This lesson let all lay to heart this day, for we are just at such a crisis of our fate. Now is the season to be brave ourselves, and to stimulate the rest by our example."
 
The thing is to get them to turn their thoughts to what they mean to do, instead of to what they are likely to suffer. Do that, and their spirits will soon revive wonderfully. You know, I need hardly remind you, it is not numbers or strength that gives victory in war; but, heaven helping them, to one or other of two combatants it is given to dash with stouter hearts to meet the foe, and such onset, in nine cases out of ten, those others refuse to meet. This observation, also, I have laid to heart, that they, who in matters of war seek in all ways to save their lives, are just they who, as a rule, die dishonourably; whereas they who, recognising that death is the common lot and destiny of all men, strive hard to die nobly: these more frequently, as I observe, do after all attain to old age, or, at any rate, while life lasts, they spend their days more happily. This lesson let all lay to heart this day, for we are just at such a crisis of our fate. Now is the season to be brave ourselves, and to stimulate the rest by our example."

Thank you for sharing the above quote Mr.Cyan. A super example for our situation and current dilemmas that we, naturally. are all contemplating at this time.
 
happyliza said:
The thing is to get them to turn their thoughts to what they mean to do, instead of to what they are likely to suffer. Do that, and their spirits will soon revive wonderfully. You know, I need hardly remind you, it is not numbers or strength that gives victory in war; but, heaven helping them, to one or other of two combatants it is given to dash with stouter hearts to meet the foe, and such onset, in nine cases out of ten, those others refuse to meet. This observation, also, I have laid to heart, that they, who in matters of war seek in all ways to save their lives, are just they who, as a rule, die dishonourably; whereas they who, recognising that death is the common lot and destiny of all men, strive hard to die nobly: these more frequently, as I observe, do after all attain to old age, or, at any rate, while life lasts, they spend their days more happily. This lesson let all lay to heart this day, for we are just at such a crisis of our fate. Now is the season to be brave ourselves, and to stimulate the rest by our example."

Thank you for sharing the above quote Mr.Cyan. A super example for our situation and current dilemmas that we, naturally. are all contemplating at this time.

Mr. Cyan and happylisa,

While we are thinking about possible "suffering" and our current dilemmas I think we should be more focused on what we are to do as the battle scene above describes.

Back in 2012 or so there was an old BBC TV series 'Survivors' created by Terry Nation which was British TV series broadcast from 1975-1977.

This was a topic on the forum that caught my attention 'Survivors' by Terry Nation British TV series 1975-1977. Although it is set in the 1970's with the quaint fashions of that era (which some of us might find interesting), it really made me think what it would be like in real life when catastrophe strikes.

The series can still be found on YouTube is anyone wants to view it ( _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak1SrFGXgA4 ). It is quite long in total around 38 short episodes. I started watching it back in 2013 and had to finish to see how it ended. It has interesting situations and characters that kind of bring things to life as they might occur in a real time of catastrophe.

If you do watch it I would also keep in mind that this is really a 3D perspective of how things might happen. In the days ahead I think we should also be open to what it might mean to be a 4D STO candidate. After all when a predator backs it's prey into a corner doesn't the prey have a right to defend itself?

Just my current thoughts. :nuts:
 
This is amazing and can give us some clues:

Session 09 June 2009:

Q: (J) What a way to go... all of a sudden. (L) But I guess if you're going to go out in a blaze of glory, that's the way to do it.
(Ar**) It's the quickest way.
A: A ticket to 5D naturally! They chose the exit at some level. The days will come when the dead seem blessed.
Q: (Discussion of grim answer)
A: For some.
Q: (Ar***) Are they talking about in the next 20 years?
A: Less.
Q: (Ar**) Oh god... (Alenl) In the next year?
A: Five.
Q: (Ar**) So what's going to happen in the next five years that's going to be worse?
A: Wait and see!


June 20th 2009

A: 5 more years! 2 go! 0 new year!
Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening?
A: Poinonia
Q: (L) And where do you transmit through?
A: Cassiopaea
Q: (L) Is there any particular reason you made the announcement about 5 years to go?
A: Just reminding you.


Five years later on June 2014 this were the news:


I was just watching Alain Soral's latest video when I heard him offer a very interesting explanation for why the AngloZionist Empire hates Putin so much. The article Soral quotes is entitled "The End of the New World Order" and it has been written by Christopher R. Hill, "former US Assistant Secretary of State for East Asia, was US Ambassador to Iraq, South Korea, Macedonia, and Poland, a US special envoy for Kosovo, a negotiator of the Dayton Peace Accords, and the chief US negotiator with North Korea from 2005-2009", i.e. a big shot in the US imperial nomenklatura. Here is what Hill writes:

Russia's annexation of Crimea and ongoing intimidation of Ukraine appears to mean the end of a 25-year period whose hallmark was an effort to bring Russia into greater alignment with Euro-Atlantic goals and traditions. Now the question is: What comes next? (...) [the] new world order held for almost 25 years. Except for Russia's brief war with Georgia in August 2008 (a conflict generally seen as instigated by reckless Georgian leadership), Russia's acquiescence and commitment to the "new world order," however problematic, was one of the great accomplishments of the post-Cold War era. Even Russia's reluctance to support concerted Western action, such as in Bosnia and Kosovo in the 1990's, was based on arguments that could be heard in other European countries. Russian democracy certainly had its share of flaws, but that hardly made it unique among post-communist countries. (...) Americans do need to understand the challenge they are facing from a Russia that no longer seems interested in what the West has been offering for the last 25 years: special status with NATO, a privileged relationship with the European Union, and partnership in international diplomatic endeavor.

http://www.sott.net/article/280003-Russia-betrayed-the-NWO-says-senior-US-diplomat-Christopher-R-Hill


Then enter ISIS

On Monday night [09 June 2014] fighters from Al-Qaeda affiliated group Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS) stormed provincial government headquarters armed with rocket-propelled grenades and heavy machine guns.

http://www.sott.net/article/280273-State-of-emergency-Al-Qaeda-aka-ISIL-militants-overrun-Iraq-city-of-1-8mn-free-2500-prisoners

Open warfare between the government and rebels in Iraq would pose a threat to the global economic recovery should oil production from the war-torn Middle East state suffer a serious disruption, analysts have warned. Brent oil prices climbed as high as $110.25 (£65.59) on Wednesday amid concerns that 3.5m barrels per day of Iraqi exports could be knocked out of the market by the violence that has seen al-Qaeda forces seize control of Mosul, Tikrit and Samarra.

"The worst case scenario is that we see production from Iraq slip down to levels in the last Gulf war, then oil could spike $20 a barrel very quickly," Ole Hansen, vice-president and head of commodity strategy at Saxo Bank told The Telegraph. "In that scenario, the entire economic recovery, which is still fragile, could stall and we could even slip back into recession in some regions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/10893255/Iraq-oil-shock-could-kill-world-economic-recovery-experts-warn.html

Now… Russia is far from alignment with Euro-Atlantic goals ,

ISIS controls Iraq and Siria and ME zones except Israel...,

Oil prices seems to indicate that global economic recovery is a dream

Four months: March, April, May, June to see

Indeed the END began in 2014
 
SeekinTruth said:
Just adding some more thoughts to the whole "it's a good day to die", survivalist situations, etc. In really bad situations, both the best and the worst come out in people. It's like the ideal time to continue and even complete the Work - everything needed (for shocks, staying conscious / full of attention to stay alive, etc.) will be in oversupply, so to speak, in cataclysmic times. And finally, we will all die at some point, there's no way around it (the body dies). So, there will be many decisions to make at what point it's worth living and when it's best to die. It's like a very intensive and accelerated course for our Lessons to live through these events and times that will quite likely happen in the not too distant future.

I think all that is true. Also...

The C's have told us that the only possibly way left to unite humanity is through "suffering"! That doesn't sound like very appealing thing to us 3D Humans, but they also tell us that when viewed from a 4D perspective it would be different. Things are going downhill really fast these days and we should all be doing the best we can to prepare for the future physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually so as to meet whatever challenges and situations which may occur in the best way we can.
 
Richard S said:
SeekinTruth said:
Just adding some more thoughts to the whole "it's a good day to die", survivalist situations, etc. In really bad situations, both the best and the worst come out in people. It's like the ideal time to continue and even complete the Work - everything needed (for shocks, staying conscious / full of attention to stay alive, etc.) will be in oversupply, so to speak, in cataclysmic times. And finally, we will all die at some point, there's no way around it (the body dies). So, there will be many decisions to make at what point it's worth living and when it's best to die. It's like a very intensive and accelerated course for our Lessons to live through these events and times that will quite likely happen in the not too distant future.

I think all that is true. Also...

The C's have told us that the only possibly way left to unite humanity is through "suffering"! That doesn't sound like very appealing thing to us 3D Humans, but they also tell us that when viewed from a 4D perspective it would be different. Things are going downhill really fast these days and we should all be doing the best we can to prepare for the future physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually so as to meet whatever challenges and situations which may occur in the best way we can.

Richard S,

This is a very good point I think. To have a 4D perspective would be a lot different for all of us I think. Of course we have to at least know there is such a thing as 4D. And where did we get that concept?

I have been doing a lot of thinking as others are doing. I just thought of something the C's said that might be related to how we are feeling:


Session 11 February 1995
Q: (L) Well, something has been going on with me internally and I just don't know what it is. I don't even know who I am right now. I am at odds with myself, it seems. What is going on? Why am I so irritable?

A: You are being defensive, letting go of old stuff.

Q: Well, I am trying not to be irritable.

A: You try too much. Stop attempting and just "Go with it!" There is no need to steer, no need to drive, just ride!

Q: Well, that is very hard for me to do when this energy threatens to overwhelm me. {I understand now that this was the seating of the higher emotional center. It really did feel like a form of madness.}

A: You have always been a driver, that is the old stuff to let go of. Why resist? This is why you have been irritable. Your super consciousness is telling you something.

I don't know if my "super consciousness" is trying to tell me something but it feels that way to me. :huh:
 
Richard S said:
The C's have told us that the only possibly way left to unite humanity is through "suffering"! That doesn't sound like very appealing thing to us 3D Humans, but they also tell us that when viewed from a 4D perspective it would be different. Things are going downhill really fast these days and we should all be doing the best we can to prepare for the future physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually so as to meet whatever challenges and situations which may occur in the best way we can.

I think we can all agree on preparation.
As well as on suffering, we know there is no free lunch and the picture the C's have painted, I think drives home the message that it's gonna get way worse before it gets better and the house will actually be clean, that is what personally motivates me to look forward to whatever I or we have to go through because the collective result for humanity will have been worth it. Suffering is necessary and whatever each and every one our fates might hold in store, on some level, we probably chose that path.

On what we might have to do, I can't help but think of what the C's said about JC.

Laura said:
Session Date: July 12th 2014

(Perceval) Did Caesar himself ever kill anyone?

A: Many, certainly.

Q: (Perceval) So, given the times around then being very war-like, with a lot of fighting and death going on in general... and with some kind of a Great Soul at the time coming down and... it doesn't necessarily have to be a peacemaker kissing people's feet like Jesus... But is there some thing like what we would understand as a prohibition against killing other people as a requirement for being "spiritually evolved"

A: That idea is for the most part an exaggerated human philosophical construct.

Q: (L) So the idea that...

(Perceval) That to be good, thou shalt not kill...

(Atriedes) But which religion does that come from? The most killingest religion on the planet!

(Perceval) It does seem to... Killing another human being for a normal human being does seem to be quite a traumatic thing.

(Atriedes) It's socially inculcated.

(Perceval) I doubt it. I mean, for soldiers, they come back with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, they're trained to kill, and they want to kill themselves afterwards, ya know? They can't handle the fact that they...

(Pierre) Maybe the difference is that Caesar was aware of the very fundamental reason why he was killing...

A: Caesar intended to eliminate or vastly reduce killing. He knew what he was up against.

I think this goes without saying, that in any SHTF scenario, psychopaths will be the first ones to try and take control of survival groups. If push comes to shove and there's no other way to protect others, I don't think I'd have a problem with 'taking care' of a psychopath (if multiple sources can agree that the individual in question is indeed a psychopath).

"To eliminate or vastly reduce killing" was Caesar's goal and "he knew what he was up against". Do we know? Well, yeah, I think we have a pretty good idea via tons of research done on psychopathy. So if we're aware of the fundamental reason why we'd do such a thing and know what we're up against, perhaps the psychological ramifications won't be as strong? Question is, would "taking care" of psychopaths would be the right thing to do? That is what I have been thinking since the session - which gave justification to the feeling I've had previously on the topic - but now I'm asking if anyone else feels/thinks that way about it because I'm still uncertain. After all, how do I know I'm not just another angry young man who has fallen to confirmation bias? I don't. That is why I'm posting.

And to reduce killing? Whatever percentage of psychopaths would be killed in necessary situations, I don't think that's anything compared to the lives that were - and could in the future be - lost because of them. Thoughts?

This quote also keeps coming back to my mind:
Laura said:
Q: (Atriedes) If you could give 3 pieces of advice to the world, what would they be?

A: I was wrong to think I could change the masses by example. Humans are fickle and self-centered for the most part. Thus, if you wish to really effect changes, it can only be done by early education, and even then it is fragile and will not last. In the end you must be true to your own nature and fear nothing. If you do that you may make a difference after you are gone. That is not exactly what you are looking for, but there are no 3 pieces of advice that serve all events.

For the record, it's somewhat disturbing to read what I just wrote - even if we're talking about dealing with psychopaths in a SHTF scenario - but I do think it's because of the subjective morals we were taught.
 
Nuke said:
Richard S said:
The C's have told us that the only possibly way left to unite humanity is through "suffering"! That doesn't sound like very appealing thing to us 3D Humans, but they also tell us that when viewed from a 4D perspective it would be different. Things are going downhill really fast these days and we should all be doing the best we can to prepare for the future physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually so as to meet whatever challenges and situations which may occur in the best way we can.

I think we can all agree on preparation.
As well as on suffering, we know there is no free lunch and the picture the C's have painted, I think drives home the message that it's gonna get way worse before it gets better and the house will actually be clean, that is what personally motivates me to look forward to whatever I or we have to go through because the collective result for humanity will have been worth it. Suffering is necessary and whatever each and every one our fates might hold in store, on some level, we probably chose that path.

On what we might have to do, I can't help but think of what the C's said about JC.

Laura said:
Session Date: July 12th 2014

(Perceval) Did Caesar himself ever kill anyone?

A: Many, certainly.

Q: (Perceval) So, given the times around then being very war-like, with a lot of fighting and death going on in general... and with some kind of a Great Soul at the time coming down and... it doesn't necessarily have to be a peacemaker kissing people's feet like Jesus... But is there some thing like what we would understand as a prohibition against killing other people as a requirement for being "spiritually evolved"

A: That idea is for the most part an exaggerated human philosophical construct.

Q: (L) So the idea that...

(Perceval) That to be good, thou shalt not kill...

(Atriedes) But which religion does that come from? The most killingest religion on the planet!

(Perceval) It does seem to... Killing another human being for a normal human being does seem to be quite a traumatic thing.

(Atriedes) It's socially inculcated.

(Perceval) I doubt it. I mean, for soldiers, they come back with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, they're trained to kill, and they want to kill themselves afterwards, ya know? They can't handle the fact that they...

(Pierre) Maybe the difference is that Caesar was aware of the very fundamental reason why he was killing...

A: Caesar intended to eliminate or vastly reduce killing. He knew what he was up against.

I think this goes without saying, that in any SHTF scenario, psychopaths will be the first ones to try and take control of survival groups. If push comes to shove and there's no other way to protect others, I don't think I'd have a problem with 'taking care' of a psychopath (if multiple sources can agree that the individual in question is indeed a psychopath).

"To eliminate or vastly reduce killing" was Caesar's goal and "he knew what he was up against". Do we know? Well, yeah, I think we have a pretty good idea via tons of research done on psychopathy. So if we're aware of the fundamental reason why we'd do such a thing and know what we're up against, perhaps the psychological ramifications won't be as strong? Question is, would "taking care" of psychopaths would be the right thing to do? That is what I have been thinking since the session - which gave justification to the feeling I've had previously on the topic - but now I'm asking if anyone else feels/thinks that way about it because I'm still uncertain. After all, how do I know I'm not just another angry young man who has fallen to confirmation bias? I don't. That is why I'm posting.

And to reduce killing? Whatever percentage of psychopaths would be killed in necessary situations, I don't think that's anything compared to the lives that were - and could in the future be - lost because of them. Thoughts?

This quote also keeps coming back to my mind:
Laura said:
Q: (Atriedes) If you could give 3 pieces of advice to the world, what would they be?

A: I was wrong to think I could change the masses by example. Humans are fickle and self-centered for the most part. Thus, if you wish to really effect changes, it can only be done by early education, and even then it is fragile and will not last. In the end you must be true to your own nature and fear nothing. If you do that you may make a difference after you are gone. That is not exactly what you are looking for, but there are no 3 pieces of advice that serve all events.

For the record, it's somewhat disturbing to read what I just wrote - even if we're talking about dealing with psychopaths in a SHTF scenario - but I do think it's because of the subjective morals we were taught.

Nuke,

I also think this is a somewhat disturbing thought that we maybe soon facing these challenging events. What if we would start to think about the 4D part of the playing field? :huh:
 

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