Session 8 August 2015

[Chu]

I do agree that we have got new dates from Cs a couple of times and it is like in the play "Waiting for Godot", that is, nothing significant happens. What is more,

Cs for some unknown to me reason, criticise those who express their doubts about the seriousness of the forthcoming events with the given dates.[

I am not criticizing anything, I just wrote that C's have said for a particular month "wait for October", but did not mention the year. I just wanted to suggest that we should not focus on events that could or not happen this year, more to pay attention to the events of the next years that month.

I think you misunderstood Mariusz, casper. His comment was not about you or anybody in particular, but about the Cs. Bolded above.

 

[hesperides]

Sorry gdpetti, could you elaborate a bit more what you mean by "lack of 'residue' from alternate vectors"?

I was thinking along the lines of the composite Self vs the self... the 'work' going on simultaneously and the affect of one aspect of the self on the others and the potential for that affect to show itself in the manner of expression appropriate for the self in this vector, dimension, density etc. Individual work within the larger group work within the larger logos etc.... just a thought, as it seems that everything is an expression in form of all of this from our perspective... thoughts taking forms, residual thoughts showing up the same way, be it karma or catalytic tools for growth.

Ok, I think I´ve grasped your idea now, thank you gdpetti.

 

[SeekinTruth]

As for October and economic turmoil/collapse, October has historically been when big stock market crashes happen. Whether it's this October or next... don't know.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

But, since few days I read it, I am still wondering what will be the meaning of this part?

I was asking specifically about the Caesarea community in the U.S.

Dear Heimdallr, thank you very much for explaining. Make sense ....

And just one more question, if you don't mind. Do you see in your living area, town or region, or even on a country level, that due to a stronger activities of this group, that is physically located there on that part of the earth, every day things are changing in a more positive and more human and STO oriented direction? If so, can you give me some example where do you recognize that your group work influenced wider comunity?

thanks :)

 

[Beau]

But, since few days I read it, I am still wondering what will be the meaning of this part?

I was asking specifically about the Caesarea community in the U.S.

Dear Heimdallr, thank you very much for explaining. Make sense ....

And just one more question, if you don't mind. Do you see in your living area, town or region, or even on a country level, that due to a stronger activities of this group, that is physically located there on that part of the earth, every day things are changing in a more positive and more human and STO oriented direction? If so, can you give me some example where do you recognize that your group work influenced wider comunity?

Such an "influence", if it does happen, would be of a non-linear nature and not easily recognized IMO.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

But, since few days I read it, I am still wondering what will be the meaning of this part?

I was asking specifically about the Caesarea community in the U.S.

Dear Heimdallr, thank you very much for explaining. Make sense ....

And just one more question, if you don't mind. Do you see in your living area, town or region, or even on a country level, that due to a stronger activities of this group, that is physically located there on that part of the earth, every day things are changing in a more positive and more human and STO oriented direction? If so, can you give me some example where do you recognize that your group work influenced wider comunity?

Such an "influence", if it does happen, would be of a non-linear nature and not easily recognized IMO.

Probably, if so, it will be that way. But do you talk about those things between group members, or do you think than, if it is not possible to get exact guides and proofs of the conections, is it better to keep it non "verbalized"?

It is a bit difficult for me to put it into the words, what i am questioning is, if there is a communication pool for group members, that is happening out of the standard communication tools like language, and that is developing at some upper levels of our consciousness ... how we can make that level of communication protected from corruption, as "up there" there is no linear time, there is no structure rulles like in language, it is more like simbolic metaphorical set of "icons", that operates through our multiple decoding abilities between messege emitter and us as message receivers and interpreters ... or is it worth to learn how that can be "utilize", to bring more knowledge and awareness to the world around us? Is FOTCM and forum looking to actually build something like that?

 

[Beau]

It is a bit difficult for me to put it into the words, what i am questioning is, if there is a communication pool for group members, that is happening out of the standard communication tools like language, and that is developing at some upper levels of our consciousness ... how we can make that level of communication protected from corruption, as "up there" there is no linear time, there is no structure rulles like in language, it is more like simbolic metaphorical set of "icons", that operates through our multiple decoding abilities between messege emitter and us as message receivers and interpreters ... or is it worth to learn how that can be "utilize", to bring more knowledge and awareness to the world around us? Is FOTCM and forum looking to actually build something like that?

Well, you're talking to the wrong person because I don't have much interest in woo-woo, telepathy stuff. I have a hard enough time dealing with life in 3D without trying to figure out all that stuff. I'll worry about "up there" if/when I get there.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

It is a bit difficult for me to put it into the words, what i am questioning is, if there is a communication pool for group members, that is happening out of the standard communication tools like language, and that is developing at some upper levels of our consciousness ... how we can make that level of communication protected from corruption, as "up there" there is no linear time, there is no structure rulles like in language, it is more like simbolic metaphorical set of "icons", that operates through our multiple decoding abilities between messege emitter and us as message receivers and interpreters ... or is it worth to learn how that can be "utilize", to bring more knowledge and awareness to the world around us? Is FOTCM and forum looking to actually build something like that?

Well, you're talking to the wrong person because I don't have much interest in woo-woo, telepathy stuff. I have a hard enough time dealing with life in 3D without trying to figure out all that stuff. I'll worry about "up there" if/when I get there.

:) yep i understand, but just to say that I didn't talk about telepathy, if I did I will say that way. I am just thinking about all set of non verbal experiences between the people who do the Work, read the forum, and do the research, and work on their machine, that are difficult to put into words, if that is a sort of making a path for new comunication tool sests for the future ... but yep ... thank you for your answer.

 

[Chu]

And just one more question, if you don't mind. Do you see in your living area, town or region, or even on a country level, that due to a stronger activities of this group, that is physically located there on that part of the earth, every day things are changing in a more positive and more human and STO oriented direction? If so, can you give me some example where do you recognize that your group work influenced wider comunity?

You found SOTT/Laura's writings/this forum because it's there, available for you to find. And it is updated and developed every day by colinear people (and people trying to work on themselves to become more colinear). I would say that's the best example you can get. A group of people simply living in the same area does not guarantee that. There needs to be a lot of Work, a shared Aim, trust, super-efforts, etc. for things to happen. And most of the time, it's not possible to see the effects as you are implying it.

 

[Chu]

It is a bit difficult for me to put it into the words, what i am questioning is, if there is a communication pool for group members, that is happening out of the standard communication tools like language, and that is developing at some upper levels of our consciousness ...

I think so, yes.

how we can make that level of communication protected from corruption, as "up there" there is no linear time, there is no structure rulles like in language, it is more like simbolic metaphorical set of "icons", that operates through our multiple decoding abilities between messege emitter and us as message receivers and interpreters ...

Knowledge and networking are the best protection, I think.

or is it worth to learn how that can be "utilize", to bring more knowledge and awareness to the world around us?

You can only keep the lighthouse on, but you cannot force other people to have more knowledge and awareness if they aren't asking.

Is FOTCM and forum looking to actually build something like that?

I would say yes, but you make it sound like it's some mystery, something secret. It's not. You can see it almost every day in this forum, actually. We are learning to see the world as it IS, as much as we can, and that allows for what you would think of as "aligning chakras", tuning into the same frequency, etc. That can naturally build some connections between people, and it's likely to have a non-linear effect. But there's no magic pill for that. It's up to each person to "tune in", or not.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

And just one more question, if you don't mind. Do you see in your living area, town or region, or even on a country level, that due to a stronger activities of this group, that is physically located there on that part of the earth, every day things are changing in a more positive and more human and STO oriented direction? If so, can you give me some example where do you recognize that your group work influenced wider comunity?

You found SOTT/Laura's writings/this forum because it's there, available for you to find. And it is updated and developed every day by colinear people (and people trying to work on themselves to become more colinear). I would say that's the best example you can get. A group of people simply living in the same area does not guarantee that. There needs to be a lot of Work, a shared Aim, trust, super-efforts, etc. for things to happen. And most of the time, it's not possible to see the effects as you are implying it.

Thank you for your thoughts Chu.

What i understood, You manage to build something like that in France, but yes it takes a lot of things to get together, and in "normal" world it is becoming more and more impossible to get people together to collaborate on a more creative and cooperative level, what gives to the system better opportunity to build more mess on earth. But do you think is it worth to think in that direction at all, to try to build real comunity, like a small earthly clusters or satelites of your base, not just in virtual world, but also in real, will that make any sense from your perspective?

 

[Deleted member 11729]

Session Date: August 8th 2015


Q: (Heimdallr) We were wondering if Putin and his team of advisors are aware of the hyperdimensional reality, and if so, how they do they understand it?

A: He is somewhat aware, but in a different context.

Q: (Perceval) Would that context be kind of in a more military or technological context where they've been trying to use devices or...

A: More like a form of mental martial arts.

Q: (Ennio) So, he's battling through his mind basically?

A: Yes

Regrading this answer about Putin awareness of the hyperdimensional reality, it will be quite strange for person like Putin, not to know more about it. And this brought to me a question, do you know is there on forum and within FOTCM members, any one who is on a world scale influential, like some well known and respected musician, composer, artist, film director, educator, actor, writer etc ... ?

 

[Laura]

Regrading this answer about Putin awareness of the hyperdimensional reality, it will be quite strange for person like Putin, not to know more about it. And this brought to me a question, do you know is there on forum and within FOTCM members, any one who is on a world scale influential, like some well known and respected musician, composer, artist, film director, educator, actor, writer etc ... ?

If I did, I would not be at liberty to reveal that information.

 

[Chu]

What i understood, You manage to build something like that in France, but yes it takes a lot of things to get together, and in "normal" world it is becoming more and more impossible to get people together to collaborate on a more creative and cooperative level, what gives to the system better opportunity to build more mess on earth. But do you think is it worth to think in that direction at all, to try to build real comunity, like a small earthly clusters or satelites of your base, not just in virtual world, but also in real, will that make any sense from your perspective?

If you have been reading the sessions from last year and this one, you can answer those questions by yourself. But see Laura's reply to you here. The same applies.

 

[Laura]

What i understood, You manage to build something like that in France, but yes it takes a lot of things to get together, and in "normal" world it is becoming more and more impossible to get people together to collaborate on a more creative and cooperative level, what gives to the system better opportunity to build more mess on earth. But do you think is it worth to think in that direction at all, to try to build real comunity, like a small earthly clusters or satelites of your base, not just in virtual world, but also in real, will that make any sense from your perspective?

If you have been reading the sessions from last year and this one, you can answer those questions by yourself. But see Laura's reply to you here. The same applies.

I'll add a bit more to what Chu has written here: you know very well that we have a number of communities. What you don't know are the requirements to become part of one nor the very hard work that goes into a person working on themselves so as to be ready and able to participate in same. We have a few models, we are accumulating a lot of information on what works and what doesn't. So if you want to start some sort of community on your own, that's fine. But if you want to interact with FOTCM members, then you will simply have to follow the process as everyone else has/does. There are very good reasons for our caution which are well explicated in the sessions and on the forum.