MariuszJ said:
I do agree that we have got new dates from Cs a couple of times and it is like in the play "Waiting for Godot", that is, nothing significant happens.
How do you define "significant"? Are you expecting a big "Boom" that would obliterate the entire planet in one second?
What is more, Cs for some unknown to me reason, criticise those who express their doubts about the seriousness of the forthcoming events with the given dates.
Where? Can you link to where you see something like that, or is it your interpretation? The closest I get to what you are claiming is this excerpt quoted by Ennio earlier on this thread:
Ennio said:
Laura said:
Also, there's more to it because of nonlinear dynamics and scale. As we saw with the "explosion in Ukraine", our reality has changed dramatically since that began - a splitting was initiated. As Cs have noted, SCALE must be taken into account because these changes are global and take some time to fully develop, and I think what happened in Greece is similar. The ramifications have yet to be fully realized.
There's also this from the
4 April 2015 Session:
(Perceval) Well, the last answer was, "Human activity may reflect cosmic processes." So, what's going on in term of human activity right now that we could... I mean, and once we define that, what kind of a process is that a reflection of?
A: Chaos precedes creation.
Q: (L) Okay, is that a suggestion that we are in a period of chaos because elements need to be broken down in order to re-use them in a creative process? I mean, just metaphorically speaking?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Well, that kinda leads into some of the questions that are on my mind because of various interactions on the forum. A lot of people talk about wanting to wait for the Wave. In fact, I think there was one person who said that if he had a date for the Wave, he would work on himself, but since there's no date, he doesn't see any point in doing that.
A: The "Wave" is in process. Remember your principle of scale.
Q: (L) You mean the one that I wrote when I was doing Noah?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Okay, that principle of scale was basically that when a quantum wave collapse occurs at the atomic scale, it's like nearly instantaneous because of the smallness of the system.
(Pierre) Macro scale takes more time.
(L) Yes. A wave or a phase transition at the macrocosmic scale would take place over a period of time. So, that reminds me of the session back I think it was in 1995, because I just recently re-read it, and it was about the dying off of the frogs. We were talking about frogs dying off because somebody had reported that frogs were disappearing. We asked about this, and the answer was along the lines that that was a precursor or an effect of the Wave. In other words, what we're seeing from our perspective are incremental events that, in a larger perspective, would be more or less instantaneous.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is that the principle of scale we're talking about here?
A: Yes. And those who do not realize this will "go under".
Q: (L) So somebody's who's waiting for a specific date for some kind of big flash to happen and suddenly they're gonna go from one world into another, they're simply not grasping the cosmic scale of thing?
A: Exactly! We once said that it was a grand example of cosmic "Pomp and Circumstance". You simply do not have the full perspective!
If that's what you are referring to, then you haven't read it carefully enough. In that same session, the Cs also said:
A: Those of you who are waiting for "The Wave" to save or change you should be aware that you are really like the frog being gradually cooked.
Q: (Galatea) So, you're saying people should act as much as possible as if the Wave is already here?
A: Yes. In fact, it is!
Q: (L) We're in the middle of it. We're just so small and miniscule in relation to the cosmic process that what we see as this gradually deteriorating situation that is leading to ultimate chaos on this planet is the effect of it happening. It happens in increments and jumps, like quantum wave packets or whatever they call 'em. It accumulates, and then jumps, and then accumulates, and then jumps.
(Pierre) If chaos is a manifestation of the Wave, chaos is here for a while now, so the Wave is here.
(L) The Wave is here because chaos is the manifestation of the Wave.
A: Yes! Goodbye.
And countless times have they said that predictions and dates are not what counts. A small change can create chaos in innumerable ways. A "future" can change due to many factors. So, arguing about the correctness of a date seems to me to be an exercise in futility. Usually, those "predictions" tend to be right, but their concrete manifestations are not as we would have imagined them based on our incomplete worldview and usual linear thinking. I guess that's where you are seeing the lack of "significant" events. But that in and of itself is subjective. Significant for who? And how? I'd consider any small change that allows for some people to learn something to be significant, for example, as small as it may seem if you were able to look at the cosmos as a whole.
If a change was so sudden, I would imagine it to be a "flaw" in the design. Personally, I can say that if the Wave had arrived all of a sudden (at our scale), and BOOM, change of program, then I wouldn't have learned a single thing. It is those changes we observe little by little, who are noticeably accelerating if you are paying attention, that allow for people to acquire more awareness and more knowledge. Some people are able to learn from smaller shocks. Without those and some "time", for people who want to make big efforts to assimilate them, there would be no chance for learning. So, I trust that the Universe knows what it's doing, and sometimes, I'm grateful for the "insignificant" changes that have changed my life and that of others to the point where we can get a glimpse of reality as it is.
MariuszJ, you seem to be struggling with these ideas since
the session from February. What I understand from your posts back then is that you are frustrated because in your view, something huge should happen that would suddenly be noticed by the majority of the population who is now asleep. But what if that's not part of the plan or lesson for humanity, or at least not in such a visible and tangible way? You reproached the Cs back then for not being precise enough.
MariuszJ said:
I do believe that serious events are forthcoming but they are now not dramatic enough to be regarded by society as the whole as imminent threat and people have the right to discard them. Nothing indicates a global danger and talking about that with anyone will make you ridiculed. Cs should have said that there will be some increase in environmental changes involving many casualties instead of saying about dramatic changes. To an average person the changes are regarded as temporary fluctuations which happens now and again.
But can you not see how you yourself as interpreting (and probably MISinterpreting) things? Again, what is "dramatic enough"? Who are we to determine that a "serious event" SHOULD be so big as to attract the whole of society's attention? And what if these not-so-dramatic events are the chance for those who have eyes to see, to actually see?
