Session 8 August 2015

[Beau]

I have started the translation of the session into French and I wonder what means "Man the posts?".

It's colloquial English. It's origin is in the military where an army would send soldiers to posts, or specific strategic locations, to watch out for the invading army. Hope that helps.

 

[Lilou]

I have started the translation of the session into French and I wonder what means "Man the posts?".

Here is the translation in various languages (French included). http://www.dictionarist.com/man+a+post

 

[Jacques]

I have started the translation of the session into French and I wonder what means "Man the posts?".

It's colloquial English. It's origin is in the military where an army would send soldiers to posts, or specific strategic locations, to watch out for the invading army. Hope that helps.

Hi Goemon,

I think that we could translate it by something like : les hommes aux postes.

 

[Gaby]

Very interesting discussion and session! Thank you for sharing

 

[Joe]

For me it is difficult to think that there is no any one like that, as among those are individuals who search for answers and knowledge whole their life, and i am sure if they cross this resources, and if they are STO oriented, this will change responsibility they feel, and probably they will search for a symbolic ways, to spread this ideas as much as possible to the everyday reality.

But on the other side, i am not expecting that there will be on global scene more than 10 of them, as we see recently, many of the "stars" are getting exposed as psychopaths, who actually abused their talents to get into star system, what gives them power to abuse those who are not in their range.

Such people are, more often than not, caught up in their positions and roles as 'famous people'. Also, they would more than likely be a liability to us because if they tried to use their public notoriety to help us, the system would kick back and they would be used to try to discredit and cause all sorts of problems for us. I think you're thinking in too limited, linear terms about this situation. You're fairly new to what we do and I don't think you really understand the concepts behind it. So I think more time reading the material and thinking about it in an open way is a good idea. I think it would be useful for you to dedicate yourself to reading a lot more before you can expect to formulate relevant ideas on this topic.

 

[Laura]

I have started the translation of the session into French and I wonder what means "Man the posts?".

It's colloquial English. It's origin is in the military where an army would send soldiers to posts, or specific strategic locations, to watch out for the invading army. Hope that helps.

It's also a play on words: "posts" meaning posting on sott and the forum.

 

[Joe]

(Perceval) Can I ask if the plane parts found recently on Réunion, were they from MH370?

A: No!

Another Hit for the Cs?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11497459
:)

That story is about some more recent debris found on the Maldives. I asked about the flaperon found on Reunion, which has been declared as definitely from MH370. But, as even some Malaysian victims' families have been saying, they had a year to plant evidence, and it's not credible.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

For me it is difficult to think that there is no any one like that, as among those are individuals who search for answers and knowledge whole their life, and i am sure if they cross this resources, and if they are STO oriented, this will change responsibility they feel, and probably they will search for a symbolic ways, to spread this ideas as much as possible to the everyday reality.

But on the other side, i am not expecting that there will be on global scene more than 10 of them, as we see recently, many of the "stars" are getting exposed as psychopaths, who actually abused their talents to get into star system, what gives them power to abuse those who are not in their range.

Such people are, more often than not, caught up in their positions and roles as 'famous people'. Also, they would more than likely be a liability to us because if they tried to use their public notoriety to help us, the system would kick back and they would be used to try to discredit and cause all sorts of problems for us. I think you're thinking in too limited, linear terms about this situation. You're fairly new to what we do and I don't think you really understand the concepts behind it. So I think more time reading the material and thinking about it in an open way is a good idea. I think it would be useful for you to dedicate yourself to reading a lot more before you can expect to formulate relevant ideas on this topic.

Thank you Perceval, agree i need to do quite more research before coming to any conclusions related to the work done here. This your explanation, specially part i bolded, was kind of what i was also concerned about.

 

[cubbex]

I think some folks must remove those pinky glasses. Predator is predator, STS is STS. As long this forum and SOTT is active, this forum and other associates need to think about this as "strategic intelligence" or "propagandistic intelligence"; which is one propaganda in favor of the truth vs one propaganda for the lies. Which is still towards a certain level, egotistical on both sides. Some want this, some want this other thing. But both love the battle for it. The Cs' said something cool about it:

Q: What is the most probable and likely result of the article with the changes that are being made, and as it will come out, following the present probabilities?

A: Bouquets and daggers. Fame and infame. But, Laura, Frank, and Arkadiusz: such is the state of the realm in which you now reside... If you cannot stand the heat, get out of the kitchen... But if you leave the kitchen, you will miss the aroma. In general, those predisposed to react positively will do so, regardless of literary content, and vice versa.

SOTT team is made of STS individuals inspired by the very few info available for STO type of living, also know as some Celtic tribes or some true christian communities, not the modern ones, those of the past. So basically, to this point, it is still a team going against the interests of another bunch of STS beings with more power in some terms. Right now if you analyse everything, they've achieved to get to this point of time because the PTB have been underestimating them (or that may be a reason), and ironocally speaking, because they have not obtained a level of power to influence loud as a lion their message as any "popular" group through the media. Any opposite force requires the same amount of power to be neutralized, to this point, I think it is of a benefit to not go as big as some may want it, because if it becomes possible, the same amount of opposition will be found against the team.

And Gurdjieff appears to be talking specifically about "popularity" not "power", two distinct things. You can be powerfull and not popular. You can even control who's popular and who's not from the shadows.

People, you are against very smart, very cunning, and very capable forces. Try to meditate a bit about this, the team is practically against the interests of entire nations. I mean entire, because what happens when you remove a predator's food? what is that humans fear the most on apocalyptic scenarios? losing their food, is like all humanity would unite to avoid losing their food. As above, so below. If I'd be a lizzie i'd be angry as hell for you taking off my bacon.

Now, the team has been influential as f***, sorry for the words. But maybe they don't look at mainstream media a lot, but if you do, you notice the constant influence on news and even movies out there. The forum to this day, is also a popular magnet of influences to this day. Influential people look to the forum, but for purposes of social influences, they might not post or draw attention to themselves.

 

[Laura]

Exactly so, Prometeo. Well said.

 

[Eboard10]

Well put Prometeo!

People, you are against very smart, very cunning, and very capable forces. Try to meditate a bit about this, the team is practically against the interests of entire nations. I mean entire, because what happens when you remove a predator's food? what is that humans fear the most on apocalyptic scenarios? losing their food, is like all humanity would unite to avoid losing their food. As above, so below. If I'd be a lizzie i'd be angry as hell for you taking off my bacon.

Now, the team has been influential as f***, sorry for the words. But maybe they don't look at mainstream media a lot, but if you do, you notice the constant influence on news and even movies out there. The forum to this day, is also a popular magnet of influences to this day. Influential people look to the forum, but for purposes of social influences, they might not post or draw attention to themselves.

IMO, what differentiates SOTT from other alternative news sites is that it goes against not only entire nations but also entire industries and interests that seem completely separate in the minds of most people (e.g. big pharma, big business, finance, science, geopolitics) and, thanks to the vast breath of knowledge, it is able to link them together in quite a unique way that isn't generally seen on other sites. This is great because it allows the reader to connect the dots with all the corruption that is going on in various fields and have a better overview of the whole situation, with the effect of raising one's awareness.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

And Gurdjieff appears to be talking specifically about "popularity" not "power", two distinct things. You can be powerfull and not popular. You can even control who's popular and who's not from the shadows.

People, you are against very smart, very cunning, and very capable forces. Try to meditate a bit about this, the team is practically against the interests of entire nations. I mean entire, because what happens when you remove a predator's food? what is that humans fear the most on apocalyptic scenarios? losing their food, is like all humanity would unite to avoid losing their food. As above, so below. If I'd be a lizzie i'd be angry as hell for you taking off my bacon.

Yes you are right, in hard times, i always think about how G. was known among majority, as one who is selling the carpets ...

 

[Cleo]

Thank you all for this session!

 

[shellycheval]

Many thanks for another amazing session--they are ALL amazing when you think about it!

(Menrva) I wanted to know if they could tell me what's going on with my heart?

A: See a doctor.

Good luck with your checkup Menrva.

 

[Foxx]

Thanks for the fascinating session!

Q: (Odyssey) In the last session, you said that some people are resistant to parasitical manipulation or can compensate. What are the compensatory conditions that protect against parasitical infection?

A: Strong mind and will. Doesn't necessarily protect against infection, but allows for mental stability in spite of.

This reminds me of Transmarginal Inhibition:

http://www.sott.net/article/136090-Transmarginal-Inhibition

Based on the empirical evidence accumulated through thirty years of research, Pavlov was convinced of the idea of the four basic temperaments. He noted that these temperaments approximated closely to those differentiated in man by Hippocrates. Though various blends of basic temperamental patterns appeared in Pavlov's dogs, they could be distinguished as such instead of by creating new categories.

The first type corresponded with Hippocrates's "choleric" type which Pavlov called "strong excitatory." The second type: "sanguine" which Pavlov named "lively", applied to dogs of a more balanced temperament. The normal response to imposed stresses or conflict situations by these two types was increased excitement and more aggressive behavior, but that is where the similarity ended. The "strong excitatory", or choleric, type would turn so wild as to be completely out of hand as opposed to the "sanguine" type which continued to behave with purposeful and controlled reactions.

The phlegmatic type, Pavlov called "calm, imperturbable," and the melancholic was called "weak inhibitory" type. In these two types, imposed stresses and conflict situations were met with more passivity or "inhibition" rather than aggression. The "weak inhibitory" type, or melancholic, constitutional tendency was to meet anxieties and conflicts with passivity and avoidance of tension. Any strong experimental stress imposed on such a dog's nervous system resulted in the dog being reduced to a state of brain inhibition and "fear paralysis."

Pavlov found that the other three types, when faced with more stress than could be coped with by the usual means, would also eventually enter a state of brain inhibition similar to that state entered very quickly by the melancholic/weak inhibitory type. He regarded this as a protective mechanism normally employed by the brain as a last resort when pressed beyond endurance. The "weak inhibitory" type was an exception to the other three types: this type of dog went into a state of protective brain inhibition more rapidly and in response to lighter stresses. The important finding was, of course, that the four basic natures responded differently to different levels of stress both before, during, and after experiments, the most important datum being that the weak inhibitory type was particularly susceptible.

Regarding the weak inhibitory type, Pavlov observed that though the basic temperamental pattern is inherited, every dog has been conditioned since birth by varied environmental influences which can produce long-lasting inhibitory patterns of behavior under certain stresses. Therefore, the final pattern of behavior of any given dog will depend on both its own constitution as well as specific patterns of behavior induced by prior environmental stresses. [2]

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Among Pavlov's most important findings was what can happen to conditioned behavior when the brain of a dog is pushed to the "ultraboundary" limit by stresses and conflict beyond its habitual response capacity. He was able to bring about what he called a "rupture in higher nervous activity" by utilizing four main types of imposed stresses.

1) The first type of stress was simply an increase in the intensity of the signal to which the dog was initially conditioned. If this was gradually increased, at a certain point, when the signal was too strong for its system, the dog would begin to break down.

2) The second way of achieving the ultraboundary event was to increase the time between the giving of the signal and the arrival of food. If a dog was conditioned to receive food five seconds after the warning signal, and this period was then prolonged, signs of restlessness and abnormal behavior would become evident in the less stable dogs. Pavlov discovered that the dog's brains revolted against any abnormally long waiting period while under stress. Breakdown would occur when the dog had to either exert very strong, or very prolonged, inhibition. (Human beings also find protracted waiting while under stress to be debilitating: worse than the event that produces the anxiety.)

3) The third way of inducing a breakdown was to confuse the dogs by anomalies in the conditioning signal. If positive and negative signals were given one after the other, (yes, no, yes, no, etc), the hungry dog would become uncertain as to what would happen next and this disrupted the normal nerve stability. This is also true with human beings.

4) The fourth way of inducing a breakdown in a dog was to destabilize the dog's physical condition in some way, either by subjecting it to long periods of work, inducing gastro-intestinal disorders, fever, disturbing the glandular balance, surgery, etc.

If, in any case, the first three methods would fail to induce a breakdown in a particular dog, it could be achieved by utilizing the same stresses that had failed, but doing so only after initiating the fourth protocol: physical destabilization. Pavlov also discovered that, after physical destabilization, a breakdown might occur even in temperamentally stable dogs and also that any new behavior pattern occurring afterward might become a fixed element of the dog's personality even long after recovery from the debilitating experience.

In the weak inhibitory type of dog, new neurotic patterns implanted under such conditions could frequently be readily removed by little more than doses of sedatives. But in the calm and lively types - which often needed to be surgically castrated in order to physically debilitate them sufficiently to cause a breakdown - Pavlov discovered that the newly implanted pattern was quite often ineradicable after the dog had recovered its health. Pavlov thought that this was due to the natural toughness of the nervous systems in such types of dogs. The new behaviors were difficult to implant without temporarily induced debilitation and subsequently seemed to be as strong a part of the dog's "stubborn nature" as the old pattern.

As observed by Pavlov, tolerence of stimulation varies greatly between individuals. Highly sensitive persons may be overstimulated by the loud volumes in a movie theater or the background confusion of a large social gathering. Other individuals will find those same stimulations as ideal stimulation levels, or even understimulating.

So perhaps that's part of the function of these pathogens--to induce Transmarginal Inhibition--and that due in part to some people's constitution, it doesn't always succeed.

Q: (Heimdallr) How many people in this world have this problem of infection?

A: 63 percent.

That's a lot, but not as much as I was imagining. If the percentage given is for people who have some kind of general pathogen infection (not specifically mycoplasma or something similarly specific), then that would span a lot of types of infection, from some kind of "standard" GI pathogen (maybe even a fungal overgrowth), to something nasty like whatever Laura's had, or Lyme disease, or something that's rather complicated with colonies of multiple pathogens and biofilms that require an extended protocol to eliminate. Thinking about that and trying to extrapolate to how many people on the forum might be affected by this, that number would probably be a good amount lower from dietary changes alone and stronger immune systems from improved health getting rid of "weaker" or less-established pathogen infections. Maybe then for people with chronic lower level issues that haven't been resolved completely by dietary changes, a natural route for a pathogen cleanse would be sufficient and appropriate (or at least a good starting option), but for people with more severe chronic issues, the autoimmune protocol ("nuclear option") should be followed.

(Heimdallr) In a previous session when you guys talked about reality splitting related to Ark and Scottie misremembering a woman's name, um, and we wanted to ask if there's any way to know when that is happening in the moment?

[Clarification: Scottie remembered the woman had a different name, and Ark remembered not meeting her while everyone else remembered that he DID meet her]

A: Remember the Matrix cat!

Here's the scene, for reference:

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(Heimdallr) Do you think the herbal methods brought up on the forum are really worth exploring?

(L) I think they're good adjuncts, but I think if you really want to kill the suckers, you should just go in and nuke 'em. You can be taking these herbals for two or three years to deal with something like this. I would like to see somebody experiment with it. Maybe someone who's not on death's door like I was practically... Somebody who has a little life left in them to play with, but they still know they have a condition. That kind of person could experiment with the herbal option and report back on how it works. I think Gandalf said he was going to do it, but I dunno if he has any real chronic issues. You really need somebody who you know has a serious enough, clear cut issue like arthritis or some kind of thing.

I knew a guy who had Lyme disease and took herbs to get rid it of and was supposedly successful, but yeah he was taking them every day (I think multiple times a day) for 2 or 3 YEARS. I think at least two of the herbs were Cat's Claw and Astragalus, but I don't know the full protocol--it was most likely whatever protocol was developed by Stephen Buhner. I think he also got re-infected with it at some point afterward (or the herbal protocol didn't actually work).

(Approaching Infinity) Just one more, Laura. Right before the civil war started, what was the percentage of psychopaths in Rome? [laughter]

A: 42

Q: (L) I'd say that's not terribly unusual. Rome was an attractor for every nasty critter in the whole empire.

(Perceval) Like Israel today.

Here's the session where the Cs said Israel is at the same percentage:

(Belibaste) We wanted to know the percentage of psychopaths geographically speaking, like in the US, Israel, UK.

(L) Alright, let's take them one at a time.

(Belibaste) USA?

A: 23 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) United Kingdom?

A: 14 percent.

Q: (L) That's because they all went to America. (laughter)

(Ailén) Israel?

A: 42 percent.

Q: (Belibaste) France?

A: 10 percent.

Q: (Burma Jones) Russia?

A: 17

Q: (Belibaste) What about some poor country like Ethiopia?

A: 3

Q: (Joe) That's 75 million people in the US.

(Burma Jones) That's a lot of psychopaths.

(Ottershrew) What's the country that's the lowest?

A: Samoa

Q: (Belibaste) What's the percentage in Samoa?

A: 0.6

Q: (Belibaste) In Samoa there's quite a strong ethnical specificity.

(L) I don't know anything about Samoa.

(Joe) I think they're the same as the Maori.

(PoB) Just in case, is there any country with a bigger percentage than Israel?

A: Not at present

Q: (Burma Jones) So Israel is the worst at present.

(Belibaste) In the past, was there a country with a higher percentage?

A: Low Countries.

Q: (Andromeda) What about Spain?

A: 2.6

Q: (Ailén) China?

A: 0.9

Q: (Ailén) Well, there are so many people in China...

(Joe) When they said the low countries, did they all leave the low countries and go to England?

A: USA and South Africa

Q: (Ailén) What about Holland?

(L) That's the low countries.

(Ailén) But that was in the past...

(L) Oh, you mean at present?

A: Still high

Q: (L) Are you going to give us a number on that?

A: 13

I was surprised to see that Russia was relatively high at 17%. I wonder if it's gone down since that session. It's also still surprising to see China with such a low percentage. Reminds me of this too:

(Alada) Well, China is so big, but it's so relatively quiet...

A: Still waters run deep and strong. The USA and allies are in for a rude and painful awakening.

I wonder what they mean by the "Still waters run deep and strong" statement exactly and if and how it relates to the small percentage of psychopaths.