Thanks Laura, Andromeda and Team - interesting session!
Haven't been feeling down recently - quite to the contrary, quite energetic - compared to the last few months before. Maybe because now I have switched my mostly vegetarian diet to mostly meat based ...
Strangely enough my wife seems to hear things all the time. She often turns to me and asks: "What did you say?" - even though I didn't say anything at all. Maybe she feels the changes too ...
Laura said:
Stranger said:
Laura said:
Glycation is a problem only if you are eating more than 72 grams of carbohydrates per day.
I see you've read "Life Without Bread"? :P
Yup! Great book and HIGHLY recommended! I just wish he was onto the gluten and dairy thing too. But, so far, no book on these topics that we have read has been perfect based on our own experimentation and putting the puzzle together. I guess we'll have to write our own!
I am just reading Mark Sissons "The Primal Blueprint" - I think it's pretty spot on. He is against gluten, not against dairy though - but explains very well all the biochemical processes that happen with the different nutrients and what happens when you change the mix.
One thing I have come to realize is that it is not enough to just increase your fat intake - you HAVE TO reduce your carb intake down to 50 - 100 g/d (he says it's ok to take 100 - 150g/d, which I personally find too high).
The other good point is that he does away with the "ketosis is bad for you" myth. I think our body is supremely adapted to handle prolonged periods of ketosis (which occurs, when you either fast for a short period of time or you only ingest proteins and fat - without any carbs).
Legolas said:
GRiM said:
Thank you very much for transcribing and publishing the session <3
edit: 1000!! :)
Lol. It took me a second glance what you are meaning with 1000. Congrats then. :)
RedFox said:
A: Watch the diet!
Q: (L) Does that mean as I think, being very careful about any carbs?
A: Yes.
Meaning having very few or zero simple carbs/sugars (e.g. no fruit). And limiting the amount of complex carbs you have. You're energy should be coming mostly from (good) fats....as this does not raise insulin levels and/or stress the adrenal glands out....among other things.
Unfortunately I have not many facts at hand right now, I only heard from my doc (for diabetics), that too fat consumption needs insulin.
It is called: gluconeogenesis
I think that this is where part of the confusion is: Ketosis in diabetics is a totally different thing than ketosis in healthy people.
The body needs insulin - whatever you eat. It is the stuff that opens the channels of the cells for the nutrients to be able to enter. Without any insulin, your body literally starves to death - a type I diabetic dies emaciated.
So you will need a bit of insulin to get the nutrients into the cell. Only carbs lead to insulin production in the body - so if you don't eat any, the body is able to manufacture glucose from mainly proteins (and also fat). That's called "gluconeogenesis" - which just means "the fabrication of sugar in the body from different sources". So - in a healthy body there will ALWAYS be a bit of insulin produced, because it is necessary for survival. The problem arises, when you have a typical Western diet with 300 - 500 g of carbs per day. This overstimulates the insulin system and leads to several problems like insulin resistance, inflammation in the body, blood sugar instability etc. which in turn will eventually cause all the different civilization disorders (heart problems, diabetes, cancer etc.).
Ketosis in a type I diabetic (who is unable to produce insulin, because the cells in his pancreas which normally produce it, have died). The body will desperately try to manufacture glucose, because the feedback-loop is broken: The cells are starving, because there is no insulin to feed them. Ketones are able to fuel the vital organs in our body: brain, heart and kidney. This is an evolutionary backup system, that helps survive in times of hunger or lack of carbohydrate resources. But it was never mean to save a Type I diabetic - the feedback loop is broken and the ketosis will eventually get out of control - death is the end result. This doesn't happen in a healthy body, in the presence of insulin this will always be self-limiting.
Anyway ... In my view, "The Primal Blueprint" is pretty close to what I would write ... :P