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soulsurvivor said:
I've seen the universal positive force, and it's similar to a wafting sky of smoke.
~sigh~ How do you know that what you have 'seen' is 'the universal positive force'? What IS the 'universal positive force'?

Such statements, that you consistently make, are noise - they do not add to the objective signal; they detract from it. You have every right in the world to believe anything you want and to create and live within as many fairy tales as you choose - however - this forum is not for such things. This has been explained to you at least four times now, yet you persist as if no one has mentioned it to you at all. If you are sincere about interacting on this forum, please refrain from posting any more noise.
 
As I wrote before in this thread:
Data said:
Since a couple of years, most new cars use LED technology instead of standard light bulbs. You can tell when the lights switch on and off extremely fast, without afterglow. The car electronics regulate the brightness of the red braking tail-lights (braking light intensity vs. parking light intensity) not by regulating the voltage BUT by fast On/Off switching, called Pulse Width Modulation or PWM.

This modulation can not be seen if you statically look in such a light, but can be seen if you move the focus point of your eyes fast enough over the whole scene. [...] I estimated the PWM frequency is around 75 Hz.

This means that in the near future everyone of us who is driving at night (or with some regulations even at day) will be exposed almost constantly to this low frequency flicker right in front of our face. And those red LEDs are super-bright. Helps to swallow the "newsflash" that are broadcast every 30 minutes nowadays.
Yesterday night I captured this two pictures for visualization (exposure time 1s, ISO400). In the first half second I held the camera steady and then turned it quickly upwards to make the flicker visible. In this picture:
image-2EF8_4B0E1B96.jpg

to the left is a car with LED technology and to the right a car with conventional light bulbs. Luckily there was also a street light present (powered by 50 Hz/20 milliseconds electrical network, 100 Hz flicker, see period T1) which can be used as reference to measure the flicker frequency of the car. You can see that the two time periods are roughly the same, which means that the braking light flickers also with around 100Hz or maybe a few Hz faster.

This picture:
image-C8CF_4B0E1B96.jpg

allows for measuring the Duty Cycle of the PWM; which is t/T and is roughly 8 to 10%.

Is there any significance to this? I don't know but below is the corresponding excerpt from the Cs transcripts. I think the clue "Have you noticed any changes lately??!!??" could refer to LED On/Off switching.

Cs said:
A: [...] Strobe lights are used for 3rd density mind control. [...]

Q: (L) Okay. You mentioned the strobe lights. Are these strobe lights that are used to control minds, are these something that we would or might come in contact with on a daily basis?

A: Do you not already know? We didn't say: some strobe lights, we said: strobe lights, i.e. all inclusive!

Q: (T) Strobe lights come in many forms and types. TV is a strobe light. Computer screens are a strobe light. Lightbulbs strobe. Flourescents strobe. Streetlights strobe.

A: Police cars, ambulances, firetrucks... How long has this been true? Have you noticed any changes lately??!!??

Q: (F) Twenty years ago there were no strobe lights on any of those vehicles mentioned. They had the old flasher type lights. Now, more and more and more there are strobe lights appearing in all kinds of places. (L) And now, they even have them on school buses! (T) And the regular city buses have them too, now. (L) Okay, is the strobing of a strobe light, set at a certain frequency in order to do certain things?

A: Hypnotic opener. [...]

Q: (L) What is the purpose of the hypnotic opener being used in this way?

A: You don't notice the craft. [...] A: Opener. Is precursor to suggestion, which is auditory in nature. [...] A: Where do you normally receive auditory suggestions from?

Q: (L) Radio, television... (T) Telephone... (L) Is that what we are talking about?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) If you encounter a strobe while driving, or you are sitting in front of your television, then the suggestions can be put into you better because of this hypnotically opened state? Is that it?

A: Yes. [...]

Q: (T) Do we get these signals from the radio in the car even if it is turned off?

A: Depends upon whether or not there is another source.

Q: (T) Another source such as?

A: ELP, for example.

Q: (L) What is "ELP?"

A: Extremely Low Pulse. [...]
Edit: typos
 
Nice experiment Data, really well done, an eye opener so to say (and not a hypnotic one) .

I am surprised about the flicker of those LED’s. I didn’t know they flickered. And to what extend !!

While the flickering of the street lantern still shows a perfect sinusoidal going up and down of light intensity, those of the LED’s show a sudden presence of light and than nothing, much like a short square wave. I think that such has way more impact on biological systems. (If I remember well, the frequency itself (around 100 Hz) is one of the ‘safest’, and can not be said to be a hypnotic opener.)

On a side note: if commercialised LED's all flicker at the same fixed frequency they would allow to easily monitor the driving speed, or is it that their frequency varies?
 
Good job, Data. I am not at all surprised. I HATE those new headlights. People think they are safer because THEY can see more but the oncoming drivers can't see a thing.

And now to find out that tailights also strobe. Damn...
 
Hi Charles!

Charles said:
If I remember well, the frequency itself (around 100 Hz) is one of the ‘safest’, and can not be said to be a hypnotic opener.
How did you arrive at this conclusion?

Also note that in all non-sinusoidal waves the base frequency (in this case 100 Hz) is not the only frequency present. The square wave at hand is composed of so-called 'harmonic frequencies' which are usually multiples of the base frequency. They may stimulate systems which are receptive to those frequencies. I don't know if this applies to "hypnotic opener", though.

Charles said:
On a side note: if commercialised LED's all flicker at the same fixed frequency they would allow to easily monitor the driving speed, or is it that their frequency varies?
I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean 'commercialised' LEDs as in automotive applications? LEDs per se don't flicker.

A fixed flicker frequency, if known, would theoretically allow to measure automobile speed, but there are easier methods for this, e.g. Radar. In Pulse Width Modulation the base frequency is fixed, but it may vary from automobile manufacturer to automobile manufacturer.

If you are interested, the Wiki entries about Square Wave and Pulse Width Modulation are good starting point!
 
Charles said:
I am surprised about the flicker of those LED’s. I didn’t know they flickered. And to what extend !!
Me neither, so Data thanks a lot for pointing it out. As anyone who ever drove at night and stopped at a signal knows, the break-lights of the car in front of you can be REALLY bright and right in your face, to the point that sometimes it's hard to see anything else around except the bright light until the car starts moving and the lights dim. So while you can look away from police sirens, or they can be brief, it's very hard to not find yourself almost mesmerized by those bright red break lights in the dark. So it's good to know they strobe as well. Oh and, I'm guessing almost everyone drives "at night" if they have a regular 9 to 5 job, starting about this time of year and through the entire winter. What a "perfect" way to get a bright strobe right in everyone's faces and literally do it in the dark so that's all you see.
Charles said:
If I remember well, the frequency itself (around 100 Hz) is one of the ‘safest’, and can not be said to be a hypnotic opener.
Do you have any source/data for that?
 
Good posting Data!

I have known about LED flicker for a long time because under certain conditions
you can see strobe effects when you wave the suspected LED unit against another
reference such as your fluorescent tubes. Because there is the "danger" of existing
street lighting that is based on 60Hz fluorescent tubes against the LEDs, this means
that the LEDs need to have a slightly higher flashing rate, otherwise the flicker would
be very noticeable. LEDs are being replaced in just about everywhere where incandescent
or fluorescent lights were once used and most notably in traffic signals. You can see this
especially when there is a defect in one or more LEDs, so instead of the light being
completely burned out, you see something akin to a fragmented bulb and often times
they are seen flickering. The one reason that they use PWM is to conserve power as
it is more energy efficient to turn off one, turn on another, fast enough to give the
effect of distributed light as far as eye-perception is concerned - and that is what they
tell the traffic light engineers: longer lasting light sources, and very energy efficient.
Of course, the PTB do not say *anything* about hyptonic effects.

As for CRT based computer monitors, many have discovered that the graphics cards that
had vertical rates set to 60hz, one may get flickers when operating these monitors under
a fluorescent lighting system, and the way to over come flicker is to increase the
vertical refresh rates to 70hz and above or to use incandescent light-bulbs instead
of fluorescent tubes. I wonder how long incandescent bulbs will remain on the market...
as they are trying to be more "green", "energy efficient" and to get rid of those pesky
power hungry bulbs... Also, CRT monitors are soon being phased out with "green" or
"energy efficient", cheaper "LED type" flat-screen monitors. Noticeable flickers were
known to cause "stress", "anxiety", or "headaches" and thus had to be addressed.

Hmm... I guess the "programming" is being completed soon enough...
 
Dant said:
The one reason that they use PWM is to conserve power as it is more energy efficient to turn off one, turn on another, fast enough to give the effect of distributed light as far as eye-perception is concerned - and that is what they tell the traffic light engineers: longer lasting light sources, and very energy efficient.
Of course, the PTB do not say *anything* about hyptonic effects.
I really try to conceive which rationally explainable advantages the agressive and quite visible PWM has in automobiles - compared to analog voltage/current controlled brightness. Maybe one reason is the high non-linearity of the U/I curve of LEDs in it's dim areas, which is a bit more difficult to regulate. But if it had to be done, it would be done. PWM, on the other side, is extremely simple and fast to implement both in automobile software and in power electronics.

Maybe it's that simple: PWM is cheap and easy and has the additional 'bonus' of playing in the hands of 4D STS.
 
Donald J Hunt wrote:
Good job, Data. I am not at all surprised. I HATE those new headlights. People think they are safer because THEY can see more but the oncoming drivers can't see a thing.

And now to find out that tailights also strobe. Damn...
Yes, nice work Data. I HATE those new tail lights. Is it any surprise that on European models they have raised the position so instead of being near the bumper they are RIGHT in your face?! When I get stuck in traffic in back of one of those new cars, it makes me really irritable. I have to look away as much as possible.....
 
Hi Data,

Keep in mind that the PWM uses an oscillator, and transmitters that they are, however
small, might be easily influenced by external radiation sources such as that of ELP?

The question is, can ELP penetrate the shielding of the PWM in order to change the oscillator's
normal behavior thus affecting the "digital side" of the circuit board? That is, is it possible to
"send a modulated signal via use of ELP" to "influence" the LED from it's normal use?

Ah, well. I guess I was just wondering how strobes and ELP might be used for nefarious
purposes - but then again, I am probably getting side-tracked. I'll stop here.
 
Miss Isness said:
Yes, nice work Data. I HATE those new tail lights. Is it any surprise that on European models they have raised the position so instead of being near the bumper they are RIGHT in your face?! When I get stuck in traffic in back of one of those new cars, it makes me really irritable. I have to look away as much as possible.....
Funny, I was in traffic behind a new car just yesterday with these tail lights. They were SO bright I actually commented out loud about it - and, yep, right up at eye level (for 'safety' of course). I honestly had to look away because it hurt to look at them. We literally are bombarded from the time we wake up in the morning until the time we go to sleep with signals (audio and visual) - it's amazing we can think at all.
 
Again, an LED emits a continuous light if there is a continuous current.

The red light from the car seem to be driven in a high efficiency mode. That means you get more light from an LED if the current is higher but this can also destroy the LED lights by overheating. So the trick is to pulse the light with a high current. The overall light you get is higher than if you use a continuous current. You may even save some energy that way.

Here's one explanation:

_http://www.satcure-focus.com/tutor/page10.htm

To give maximum brightness an LED needs to be driven by a pulse circuit. In this way, it is possible to put 0.5 Amp current pulses through an LED at a frequency of around 100Hz which fools the eye into thinking that it sees a continuous light.
 
Data said:
Hi Charles!
Charles said:
If I remember well, the frequency itself (around 100 Hz) is one of the ‘safest’, and can not be said to be a hypnotic opener.
How did you arrive at this conclusion?
That was not a conclusion Data.
I do remember reading somewhere that Nikola Tesla, who was said to be the inventor of AC, at first, played with many lower frequencies. He saw biological effects which he first tried to sell as beneficial but finally decided to opt for a frequency (60 Hz) that did not demonstrate prominent bioeffects. At least that is what I read and I am beginning to wonder, more and more, whether that particular source could be trusted. It could have been a copy of a copy, and we have to remember that Nikola was ‘embedded’ by the military apparatus. I did not find a reference to that source or a similar one (yet).

However, I did find a historic description as to how or why Europeans ended up with a 220 V – 50 Hz net, while Americans ended up with a 110 – 60 Hz net. It further increases my doubt now as to the safety or absence of bio-effects of 50, 60, or 100 Hz.

From: _http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=1051457


It does seem to be a conglomeration of historical reasons, including state of the art back in 1890’s, which company had a head start, and standardization. Some history:

George Westinghouse did his original engineering using 133 1/3 Hz. Westinghouse had an steam engine driven alternator set running at 2000 rpm (By 1886 mechanical engineers liked to have steam engines in integral numbers of rpm) and with 8 poles the set produced 8000 cycles per minute or 133 1/3 Hz. This was good for lighting as there was no flicker but it turned out it was too high for motors later developed.

The earliest experiments (1886 and 1887) used belt driven generators and tended toward high frequencies like 133 1/3 Hz. This suited illumination, which was practically all that alternating current was used for at that time. By 1889 and 1890 direct driven generators were coming on line. They were more robust but with lower rotation speeds they encouraged lower frequencies.

In the early years of ac there were many frequencies: each engineering team seemed to pick their own. Early frequencies in the US were 133 1/3, 125, 83 1/3, 66 2/3, 60, 50, 40, 30, 25 Hz. When Tesla joined Westinghouse, it was using 133 1/3 Hz. Tesla insisted upon 60 Hz because his ac induction motor was designed for 60 Hz and apparently wouldn’t work at 133 1/3 Hz.

On the Westinghouse Museum website it says that G. Westinghouse assigned his engineers Stillwell, Shallenberger, Schmid, and Scott to find a good frequency. Practical considerations of connecting alternating generators to reciprocating engines then in use demanded a lower frequency than 133 Hz.
Before the end of 1892 they chose 2 frequencies: 60 Hz for lighting and 30 Hz where power was to be converted to DC.

Why did Tesla/ Westinghouse engineering team choose 60 Hz? If it was Tesla that was the driving force, various biographies of Tesla declare different theories ranging from Tesla “thought it was the fundamental frequency of the universe” to “… considered the natural earth had a frequency of 10 Hz and doing experiments with 8 to 20 Hz and 20 to 40 Hz and finally 40 to 100 Hz; he decided that 60 Hz was safe.” It doesn’t seem to have been a desire to do accurate clocks because Henry Warren didn’t patent the synchronized clock until 1916 long after the frequency was chosen. Although Warren was diligent in getting utilities to have tight specs on frequency this didn’t happen until into the 1920’s.

Back in the early 1890’s Westinghouse was involved in bidding electrical equipment for the Niagara Falls power project. However the Cataract Company (in charge of the Niagara Falls project) had already selected hydraulic turbines running at 250 rpm. So if a 16-pole generator were chosen the frequency would be 33 1/3 Hz and if a 12-pole machine were chosen then the frequency would be 25 Hz. The project consultant proposed an 8-pole generator or 16 2/3 Hz. The compromise was 25 Hz. At the time lower frequencies were easier to handle on transmission lines. Another reason is that the Steel industry liked 25 Hz because of huge slow speed induction rollers, which had a low power factor for 60 Hz and worked better at 25 Hz. Niagara Falls generated 25 Hz way into the 20th century. The website says that the Westinghouse Company later wished it had forced through 30 Hz.

By 1910 it looked there would be two frequencies in North America, 25Hz for transmission and heavy industry that needed dc or slow moving heavy machinery and 60 Hz for lighting (less flicker) and general use.

There was an effort by GE to introduce 40 Hz as a compromise between 25 Hz and 60 Hz in the 1890’s but it was too late to overtake the 60 Hz and 25 Hz infrastructures already in place although there were some 40 Hz installations. Even so most installations in the US were done in 60 Hz after Westinghouse and GE cross licensed their patents.

Development of high-speed turbines instead of slow reciprocating machinery and later developments of the rotary converter that worked well at 60 Hz made it easy to shift everything to 60 Hz. By 1920 most of the problems associated with 60 Hz transmission had been solved so that there was no longer any advantage of transmitting 25 Hz over 60 Hz. That seems to be why the US is 60 Hz.

Germany took the lead in Europe of developing electrical power (primarily Emil Rathenau of AEG) and AEG seems to have used 50 Hz from day one. In 1891 AEG had demonstrated power delivery over long distances using 50 Hz. I don’t know why AEG chose 50 Hz. Did the penchant for integer rpm help influence AEG for 3000 rpm and 50 Hz as opposed to 3600 rpm and 60 Hz? Did the preference for preferred numbers influence the choice of 50 Hz over 60 Hz? Did Tesla’s influence pull Westinghouse to choose 60 Hz and resultant 3600 rpm over 50 Hz and 3000 rpm? Europe was even more fragmented in the early days than the US. In 1918 in London alone there were 70 electric authorities with 50 different types of systems and 10 different frequencies and 24 different voltages. But by the 1920’s and 1930’s more and more of Europe was changing to or working with 50 Hz.

As for voltages both Europe and the US seemed to have begun with about 100 to 110 Volts DC because of Edison’s success with replacing gas lights with electric lamps. Although many inventors worked on electric lights, generators and electrical systems, Edison was one of the first and was successful in putting together whole systems not just the pieces. Edison picked 110 VDC because that was the voltage he needed to get enough light out of his bulbs to compete with common gas lamps of the time and yet not blow the filaments in his bulbs too soon.

The Berlin Electric Works (utility owned by AEG) changed from 110 V to 220 V starting in about 1899 to enlarge the capacity of their distribution system since the city (Berlin) was already wired 2 wires. They were probably changing from dc to ac at the time also. They paid for their customers to change their lighting and motors to 220 V and saved on the cost of copper by avoiding having to add more wiring. This spread throughout Germany and later Europe but didn’t take hold in the US.

I wonder if the residue from the bitter conflict between Edison and Westinghouse about the safety of AC vs. DC spilled over into not going above 110 volts for residential users even after Edison’s forces conceded the need for AC.

A lot of this information comes from Thomas Hughes Networks of Power : Electrification in Western Society, 1880-1930 and Benjamin Lamme Technical Story of Frequencies IEEE transactions 37 (1918) 60. Benjamin Lamme was chief engineer for Westinghouse in the early 1900’s.
It all seems very plausible no? We ended up with 50 and 60 Hz (not much difference there IMO) in a rather arbitrary way. No testing seems to have been done.
And then I find this (from _http://kimfraser.com/articles_EMF_EMR.htm), but can it be trusted ? Where is the science ? The tests ?
Prior to 1980, the Schumann Resonance or pulse (heartbeat) of the Earth typically vibrated at 7.83 Hertz (cycles per second). Since then, this heart rate has been slowly rising and is now at 16 Hz (2006). So bearing this range in mind, if we want to vibrate in tune with the earth, then we must do our best to stay around 16 Hz. Our normal functioning brain wave cycle is Beta 13-22 Hz. Meditative state brain wave cycle is Alpha 8-12 Hz. Advanced meditative brain wave cycle is Theta 4.8 Hz. Sleep state is Delta .4 Hz. The Alpha brain wave state should be sought periodically during the day for balance and de-stressification, 8-12 Hz is a more calm and serene state. Anything above the normal functional state of 13-22 Hz, is progressively stressful and more debilitating to our energy fields and dangerous to our health. The higher the frequency, the more dangerous its effects upon our auto-immune systems and central nervous systems.
The alternating current (AC) electricity that we use today is highly chaotic in nature. Standard AC vibrates at 50 cycles per second. So you can see that 50 Hz electricity is not in synchrony with the frequency of the earth and our bodies. It is especially debilitating to our hearts. And geopathic stress can peak as high as 250 Hz.
Nicola Tesla, who invented alternating current, later apologized with huge regret, when he realized the debilitating nature of 50 cycles per second electrical current, and wanted the entire operation scrapped. Nikola Tesla invented countless inventions and technologies, many of which the secret governments have abused. Regardless, Nikola Tesla’s sole/soul interest was the liberation of humanity, which included the provision of “free energies”, that were not transported through wires.
With the proper funding and research, we could have had, and can have, an electrical frequency that is more conducive to optimum health, and doesn’t cost us anything. But certain powers did not want Tesla to release this type of technology, (because you can’t make money from free energy), and they certainly did not want him to notify the president and the people that 50 Hz alternating current was harmful to our health, so he was killed for it. But luckily, just prior to his death, Tesla passed on the technology to counteract the biological effects of alternating current to Ralph Bergstressor, a young physicist in the Air Force, which was later developed into “Tesla’s Innovational Technologies”…
In other words, here is stated the exact opposite as what I read in the past.

Data said:
Also note that in all non-sinusoidal waves the base frequency (in this case 100 Hz) is not the only frequency present. The square wave at hand is composed of so-called 'harmonic frequencies' which are usually multiples of the base frequency. They may stimulate systems which are receptive to those frequencies. I don't know if this applies to "hypnotic opener", though.
Yes, and here we may find something, perhaps. I just don’t see how higher harmonics can create a square wave with a duty cycle of only 10 % ? Are these square waves of light emitted by the pulsed LED’s created by adding higher harmonics, or is it simply due to the closing of a circuit with one of our modern processors.

And people, I also hate all those monochromatic lights. This year, many traffic lights have been changed in Belgium. They feel very monochromatic, trance inducing indeed. And the previous green has now almost become some sort of blue. Eerie!
 
Missing from Data's Cs transcripts:

Cs 951118 said:
Q: (L) What is "ELP?"
A: Extremely Low Pulse.
Q: (T) ELF, Extremely Low Frequency, and ELP, Extremely Low Pulse - is this the same thing?
A: Sometimes.
Q: (T) This would be an external pulse or frequency?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Would it be originating from the source of the strobe?
A: No. They act in unison.
Q: (T) Two separate sources acting in unison?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And this process prevents us from seeing something, such as craft flying in our skies at any given time?
A: Or maybe see them as something else.
So, what we see from the LED/Strobe source and ELP/ELF source are two separate sources that act in unison.
So acting together - we will probably see a "construct" of something, like a hologram hiding the real object
for what it really is? It's is almost as if they are jamming us with "pictures" in our minds... and as for
auditory signals - hmm... I wonder how that works. I am "deaf" so would I hear a thing or would that
be bypassed?

I wonder, also, if this message is a 'marker' to let us know where in "time" we are? Just how "close" are
we? Is there a "marker" to follow, if so, what is next? UFO sightings and Holmes comet?

[Edit]
Cs 951118 said:
A: Strobes use minute gold filament.
I was curious as to "gold filament" and if you google: "Diode LED Gold Au"
you may find that Au/Ni is used as wire bonded to the gold-plate on the
substrate itself. I thought maybe it was part of the substrate itself but I
could not find it, so perhaps it is literal: "Gold wire" - or "filament".

But I found this: _http://flux.aps.org/meetings/bapsfiles/Unit_MAR06_DMP.pdf
11:51AM H36.00002 Pulling gold nanowires with a hydrogen clamp , SZABOLCS CSONKA, Budapest University
of Technology and Economics, ANDRAS HALBRITTER, GEORGE MIHALY, ELECTRON TRANSPORT RESEARCH GROUP OF THE HUNGARIAN
ACADEMY OF SCIENCES AND DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS TEAM — Gold nanojunctions were found to be perfect candidates for studying
the quantum nature of the conductance. It was shown that monoatomic gold contacts have a single conductance channel with perfect
transmission. During the elongation of a single-atom gold contact stable atomic chain can be formed [2]. We have performed an experimentally
study of the interaction of gold nanowires with hydrogen molecules by the Mechanically Controllable Break Junction technique [1]. Our results
show, that in hydrogen environment the conductance of the chain is strongly reduced compared to the perfect transmission of pure Au chains.

The comparison of the experiments with recent theoretical prediction for the hydrogen welding of Au nanowires [3] implies that a hydrogen
molecule can even be incorporated in the gold nanocontact, and this hydrogen clamp is strong enough to pull a chain of gold atoms.
[1] Csonka et al., to be published in Phys. Rev. B, cond-mat/0502421 (2005).
[2] Agrait et al., Phys. Rep. 377, 81 (2003). [3] Barnett, Nano Letters 4, 1845 (2004).
 
anart said:
Funny, I was in traffic behind a new car just yesterday with these tail lights. They were SO bright I actually commented out loud about it - and, yep, right up at eye level (for 'safety' of course). I honestly had to look away because it hurt to look at them. We literally are bombarded from the time we wake up in the morning until the time we go to sleep with signals (audio and visual) - it's amazing we can think at all.
I too am aware of having commented out loud to whoever has been in the car at the time, about the annoyance that these new EXTREMELY bright tail lights/headlights are and their potential for causing accidents. I notice myself looking sideways so as to avoid the brightness, which is really not very good for road safety if everyone is looking sideways rather that at the road :o
 
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