I don't know if it's of intereste, however, there is these books:
The Illuminati - what is real?
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Ricardo
Jedi Council Member
So the masons have existed for a very long time, the C's :
Session 16 October 1994
Q: (L) Is Freemasonry as it is practiced today the same?
A: 33rd degree, yes.
Q: (L) So, there is a continuing tradition for over 7 thousand years?
A: Yes.
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yet further Session 23 March 2019 :
(Pierre) About the French Revolution: Behind it, was the main ideological force Frankish Cabalism?
A: Yes
Q: (Pierre) Oh, Jesus. Did Frankish Cabalists infiltrate Weishaupt Illuminati and some Freemason lodges?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright, we'll say goodnight. I'm tired. Kissy kissy!
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Session 14 April 2018
(Pierre) About revolutionary movements: They seem to me to be some high points in the Dionysian cycle. French Revolution, Bolshevik Revolution, even the Nazis, or what we're experiencing right now. It seems to be always the same template: you have a bunch of pathological individuals that spread a simplistic ideology centered on entitlement and victimhood that ends up with the destruction of everybody who opposed the [Gauss meter squeals] simplistic destructive movements. Ultimately, that also means the destruction of men and women of conscience. So, my question is: Is the ultimate goal of revolutionary movements the destruction of souled beings?
A: Quite often. But avoidance is possible with knowledge.
Q: (Joe) They mentioned the last one there about [Gauss meter squeals] how the STS forces [Gauss meter squeals] would become desperate as the change approaches. Is there a kind of, "as above, so below" thing going on where the US and its allies are basically becoming desperate as a change in the global power structure approaches, and that's what's driving them insane?
A: Yes. We told you that balance was coming.
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(imo/ my 2x cents ) as per a long history of shenanigans of the masons it's not so easy to gauge the significance of the Weisaupt , event (?) , but i've considered it as more of an attempt of recuitment, of useful tools , and manipulation thereof for changes in France .
Session 16 October 1994
Q: (L) Is Freemasonry as it is practiced today the same?
A: 33rd degree, yes.
Q: (L) So, there is a continuing tradition for over 7 thousand years?
A: Yes.
-
yet further Session 23 March 2019 :
(Pierre) About the French Revolution: Behind it, was the main ideological force Frankish Cabalism?
A: Yes
Q: (Pierre) Oh, Jesus. Did Frankish Cabalists infiltrate Weishaupt Illuminati and some Freemason lodges?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Alright, we'll say goodnight. I'm tired. Kissy kissy!
-
Session 14 April 2018
(Pierre) About revolutionary movements: They seem to me to be some high points in the Dionysian cycle. French Revolution, Bolshevik Revolution, even the Nazis, or what we're experiencing right now. It seems to be always the same template: you have a bunch of pathological individuals that spread a simplistic ideology centered on entitlement and victimhood that ends up with the destruction of everybody who opposed the [Gauss meter squeals] simplistic destructive movements. Ultimately, that also means the destruction of men and women of conscience. So, my question is: Is the ultimate goal of revolutionary movements the destruction of souled beings?
A: Quite often. But avoidance is possible with knowledge.
Q: (Joe) They mentioned the last one there about [Gauss meter squeals] how the STS forces [Gauss meter squeals] would become desperate as the change approaches. Is there a kind of, "as above, so below" thing going on where the US and its allies are basically becoming desperate as a change in the global power structure approaches, and that's what's driving them insane?
A: Yes. We told you that balance was coming.
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(imo/ my 2x cents ) as per a long history of shenanigans of the masons it's not so easy to gauge the significance of the Weisaupt , event (?) , but i've considered it as more of an attempt of recuitment, of useful tools , and manipulation thereof for changes in France .
HyperdimensionalApe
Padawan Learner
For anyone wondering what is the family name he doesn't say in the video, he wrote in the comments it's the family name Payseur.
lilies
The Living Force
Kerth Barker argues satanists only recently overtook and corrupted the Illuminati. They remember they were cleaner and better pre-corruption. C's said the Perseid bloodline was thinned and destroyed with time. Łobaczewski & Co. argues that psychopaths feel animal urge to breed thus spread their sick genes. Causing always the pollution of bloodlines. I see a pattern emerging.
I think the real bloodlines - holy Perseid-class - are un-thinnable, indestructible. Look how they just pop back up throughout history. What we are really talking about here, I think, are not physical bloodlines, but a flowing line of evidence of Soul Tribes leaving their imprints on history. Instinctively everybody calls it blood-lines. Because blood holds consciousness, thus parts of the soul.
It may feel like an ancestral line, a 'blood line trail' for family tree researchers, but really what we are feeling here instinctively I think is a series of intermarriages between incoming souls and genetics in physical bodies throughout history.
When there are historical calamities - great suffering and cosmic imbalance - causing a heated discussion in Heaven and strong opinions forming, I think, those members of a Soul Tribe who have some strong things to say, incarnate into 3D Earth and through their career they say it!
Souls of the holy bloodline, members of a Soul Tribe marry [picked] genes already present, then activate more genes, furnishing the body. So their Chosen body becomes a loudspeaker and The People the witness of their deeds.
Looking at history, its clear they are sharing key concepts of higher density STO thought, how humanity shall persevere and suffer, but in a livable environment. They are flocking around The Holy Spirit of The Christ, which is Immaterial and Eternal - to which Caesar belongs to.
The bloodline "getting destroyed" via terminated family trees in the physical realm thus appear only so, if you look with Darwin's eyes.
Some independent researchers popping up on social media appear as souls to have come from STO planets and they do tell us how things are done on STO planets.
Look at Putin nowadays. Trump, Tucker, Colonel Douglas Mcgregor, The Disinformation 12, Brian, St. Pierre, The Professor, The Kennedies, Gandhi, etc..
Bloodline-chasing factions in Illuminati and Masons, I think, simply want somebody powerful born, whom they can follow or peruse to get ultimate power.
I think the craving for, awaiting the resurrection of bloodlines of power are simply a human genetic memory. The bewailing of the ancient genes humanity lost.
The Garden of Eden Gene Pack. Lizzies maimed human DNA - clipped our chicken wings - because we were able to re-generate for 8000 years and levitate, fly, teleport, bi-locate, shamans could transform into water, animals and other biological forms, etc.. THUS ELUDE CONTROL.
This pervasive writing about of Messiahs throughout history, I think, this savior-complex is thus a simple withdrawal symptom. That Garden of Eden Gene Pack must have been a powerful drug. A fully upregulated human DNA that everybody on Earth is craving for.
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furryfrog
Jedi
Here is an article about a stone statue discovered in Ecuador in the 1980's. Mysterious Artifacts: Glowing Black Pyramid With The Third Eye - MessageToEagle.com
It looks just like the Eye of Providence on the dollar bill. Eye of Providence - Wikipedia
If this statue is indeed older than 6000 years as the article suggests, how old are the Illuminati and Freemasons who use this symbol?
It looks just like the Eye of Providence on the dollar bill. Eye of Providence - Wikipedia
If this statue is indeed older than 6000 years as the article suggests, how old are the Illuminati and Freemasons who use this symbol?
He probably was. The Rothchilds are also involved in private banking and given the anonymity of private banking, threads could be running in all different directions. On the surface of things, the Rothchilds seem to limit their banking activities to Europe and the UK. The overt companies are apparently what are called Closely Held Corporations, according to Investopedia, which basically means they probably only allow family members to hold shares.
One of the cons that Investopedia mentions about private banking is that there is usually a high turn-over of staff. I don't know for sure, but I imagine that where private banks are investing on behalf of their clients they probably use trusts to help maintain anonymity where the bankers themselves hold the positions of trustee either formally appointed or in an assumed role as part of their employment contract - meaning they carry the can both financially and legally if it is found that they acted as a trustee and there is litigation for a wrong or tort.
There are probably also different levels of benefit offered in private banking based on net worth.
One of the things that makes me think they may use trusts in private banking to protect anonymity is that where a bank writes mortgages, the mortgage securities are bundled up into tranches, put into a trust held by the bank and sold off as investment products. Tranches are based on different risk profiles, but one of the income yielding 'risk' profiles for investors is default or foreclosure on the mortgage. If you can't pay it's the bank doesn't get the full benefit of selling off the secured property, the investors in mortgage securities get a portion of that too.
In any case, I think that investors holding significant value in mortgage tranches could have just as much, if not more influence on financial markets as shareholders although the influence may not be as overt. Could be the reason why governments opt to bail banks out instead of letting them fail.
On the Rothchild family net worth estimation Investopedia gives a huge margin, anywhere between one billion and one trillion dollars, supposedly because of the difficulty of knowing exactly what they own.
I am struck by the following:
It reminds me of the story Enoch tells us of the Watchers. Weren't they also called "the shining ones" or the "radiant ones" those who had children with human women?
Possibly it is apples and pears but it would be worthwhile to explore this path: Orions and Watchers.
In the book I mentioned earlier, "Gold of the Gods" by Erich Von Daniken, there are photographs of some gold plates that were found in caves in Ecuador and which are attributed to the Inca culture. The gold plates have pyramids engraved on them. The curious thing is that the pyramids are reminiscent of the pyramid that appears on the $1 bill and is popularly associated with the Illuminati.
Engraved on the base of the pyramid are the Roman numerals MDCCLXXVI (1776), the date on which the United States became independent from Great Britain, but also the founding of Weishaupt's Illuminati.
It is also curious that this type of triangular pyramid is not common in Mesoamerica. The pre-Columbian pyramids were stepped, very different from the Egyptian ones. In the gold plate you can see that the top is crowned by a Sun. Both Aztecs and Incas believed they were "children of the Sun". There are also snakes not at the base of the pyramid but in "the sky".
Daniken also observed a writing at the base of the pyramid that no one had been able to decipher its meaning.
Daniken wondered "Why does the Dragon motif play such an important role in the representations and myths of ancient peoples such as the Chinese, Indians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Jews, Germanic and Mayan?.... Robert Charroux mentions that everywhere there were luminous serpents..."
Engraved on the base of the pyramid are the Roman numerals MDCCLXXVI (1776), the date on which the United States became independent from Great Britain, but also the founding of Weishaupt's Illuminati.
It is also curious that this type of triangular pyramid is not common in Mesoamerica. The pre-Columbian pyramids were stepped, very different from the Egyptian ones. In the gold plate you can see that the top is crowned by a Sun. Both Aztecs and Incas believed they were "children of the Sun". There are also snakes not at the base of the pyramid but in "the sky".
Daniken also observed a writing at the base of the pyramid that no one had been able to decipher its meaning.
Daniken wondered "Why does the Dragon motif play such an important role in the representations and myths of ancient peoples such as the Chinese, Indians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Jews, Germanic and Mayan?.... Robert Charroux mentions that everywhere there were luminous serpents..."
The commenters below this video appear to be Bible thumpers, but I found no errors in the quoting of the mentioned texts. It struck me as a plausible metaphor for the origins of the Illuminati since it seems to be all about a bloodline that is adversarial to humanity.
And the fact that it goes off world as the C's have mentioned a few times. Wow.
macyk
Padawan Learner
What about Baruchs?
en.wikipedia.org
The article is also about a kind of confrontation/balance between the clans.
Bernard Baruch - Wikipedia
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Re: Lucifer had sex with Eve.
I made some notes, about important things said in the video:
●"Lucifer in his role as a serpent not only tempted Eve but fathered a child with her. This seed of the serpent formed a bloodline that began with Cain."
This is what the Cs told us about Lucifer
●"Lucifer in his role as a serpent not only tempted Eve but fathered a child with her. This seed of the serpent formed a bloodline that began with Cain."
This is what the Cs told us about Lucifer
●"The Cain's mark is more than just physical, it is a bloodline and spiritual mark, inherently dark and characterized by a tendency towards violence, innovation and restlessness."
●"The concept of a dual seed line is prevalent in myths. Cain's traits indicate to us that he was not the son of Adam but of the serpent/Lucifer."
Laura also noted this "dual seed" in the past "Cain and Abel, Jacob and Esau, Isaac and Ishmael..." and related it to "shepherds" in turn the Cs mentioned that because of the staff a shepherd can be enlightened or "illumened" :
●"It also mentions the story told in the book of Enoch about the Watchers and their relationships with the daughters of men that gave rise to giants and men of renown, heroes and leaders."
Cain is the firstborn of Adam and Eve and is dedicated to agriculture, while Abel is a shepherd. Both brothers make sacrifices to God. Abel offers him a firstborn of his flock and fat, and Cain the fruits of the earth. God looks with favor on Abel's sacrifice and not on Cain's sacrifice.
From another point of view, it is possible that Cain's offering, which is the fruits of the Earth, refers to the children born on this planet and causes the wrath of God, as what happened in the story of Enoch with the fallen angels and the human women. These children/fruits are part of this corrupted lineage while Abel's lineage is cut off. In this sense, I wonder if Abel's lineage/offering was pleasing to God because it was pure?
●"Cain was exiled to the Land of Nod, nod in Hebrew means "to wander" some gnostic writings also give it the meaning of "to wander through the realms" where Cain's troubled and rebellious lineage wandered in exile."
We have already talked about the exile of the Kantekians after the destruction of their planet and where we find this dual seed again between the Kantekians who decided to join the Atlantean civilization and those who decided to remain separate and pure. (Celts and Third Eye Nation) The Kantekians were brought to this planet by the STS Orions.
From another point of view, it is possible that Cain's offering, which is the fruits of the Earth, refers to the children born on this planet and causes the wrath of God, as what happened in the story of Enoch with the fallen angels and the human women. These children/fruits are part of this corrupted lineage while Abel's lineage is cut off. In this sense, I wonder if Abel's lineage/offering was pleasing to God because it was pure?
●"Cain was exiled to the Land of Nod, nod in Hebrew means "to wander" some gnostic writings also give it the meaning of "to wander through the realms" where Cain's troubled and rebellious lineage wandered in exile."
We have already talked about the exile of the Kantekians after the destruction of their planet and where we find this dual seed again between the Kantekians who decided to join the Atlantean civilization and those who decided to remain separate and pure. (Celts and Third Eye Nation) The Kantekians were brought to this planet by the STS Orions.
●"Lilith is a character that in some ways has been censored from biblical teachings and yet she is an important character because she was Adam's first wife. Lillith is the powerful woman who denies Adam's authority and leaves Eden to have sexual relations with demons and specifically with Lucifer."
●"The result of this relationship was that Lilith gained a partner in her rebellion against the established divine order. Lillith returns to Eden in the form of a serpent to seduce Eve and pass on to her the knowledge she had gained from her union with Lucifer."
The story of Lilith also reminds us of the story of the fallen angels but in feminine form. The result of Lilith's rebellion and lust is not the Nephilim but the demons. Lilith was upset with Adam because he asked her for a sexual position in which he predominated.
Yahweh sent three angels to bring Lilith back to Eden and threatened to kill her children if she did not return. The angels carried out the threat and Lilith also made a horrible proclamation. In exchange for the pain delivered to her and her children, she would kill Adam's children. She vowed to attack the children, and even their mothers, during childbirth.
● "In some apocryphal texts the Nephilim are the result of divine and human beings. In the book of Enoch it is mentioned that these angels known as Watchers decended to take human women and this union resulted in the Nephilim."
●"The Nephilim of an inherently corrupt nature fill the Earth with violence which provokes God's punishment."
All this leads me to ask the following question: Is the story of Cain and Abel the story of the Sons of One and the Sons of Belial? Did this story happen in Kantek? Is the mark of Cain also the Illuminati Bloodline?
This is what the Cs told us
So again we have this dual seed. On one side were the Atlanteans and on the other side were the Kantekians and it is understandable the racial division in those early years, because as commonly happens, over time there is a cultural, technological and genetic assimilation that gives way to new races, myths and religions.
Let's imagine. On the one hand we have souls who reincarnated in ape bodies and on the other "alien" refugees, some of whom hated to be assimilated by these "contaminated" souls. Their STS orion handlers may well have warned them not to mingle, lest they taint the reptilian lineage in the future. But there were some who succumbed to lust... were these the ancient Illuminati?
Let's imagine. On the one hand we have souls who reincarnated in ape bodies and on the other "alien" refugees, some of whom hated to be assimilated by these "contaminated" souls. Their STS orion handlers may well have warned them not to mingle, lest they taint the reptilian lineage in the future. But there were some who succumbed to lust... were these the ancient Illuminati?
Wandering Star
The Living Force
What a mess.
After reading all that, the only thing I know is that I can't come to any conclusion beyond the enmity between the two Atlantean sides.
Different philosophy, but perhaps the war taught them to reach an agreement.
The origin of the Quorum perhaps.
Atlantean story is only 110K 0r 80K BCE to 10K BCE (Approx.) , but Fallen angels/Lucifer story is 309K years old Wave story. If lizards won the war at that time, it is highly likely that they won the dominion over Kantek too. Since Kantek evolved as STS, it is reasonable to assume they are also subjects of Lizards ( i.e. Orion lab products). That can even make lucifer souls ('us') can occupy Kantek bodies on that planet too. Of course, this assumption needs validation.
If this is true, the main difference could be Lizzie couldn't predict Kantek breakup in their 'control' dynamics forcing them to change the plan, suspend themselves 74K year time loop. It is normal that resource constraints and STS motivations produce all sorts of 'superiority' theories including 'racial purity' , 'civilized' , 'center of universe' and so on.