The Magnesium Miracle

[Thor]

Another important thing, you all remember to take your magnesium a couple of hours after eating, or an hour before eating. It alkalinizes your stomach and that is very bad. You all need stomach acidity for proper digestion and food absorption. Type As tend to have lower stomach acidity in general and that is why they are not prone to eat meats.

I have tried taking magnesium citrate at different times and found that taking it just before going to bed gives me a nice relaxed feeling. Also, I rub magnesium oil on my head (easy, since it's bald), which makes the entire scalp relax.

 

[jordifs]

Is magnesium carbonate okay?

It is an inorganic salt, like magnesium chloride and sulfate (epsom salts). FWIW, magnesium chelate (malate, citrate, glycinate, orotate, taurate) has a better oral absorption.

Another important thing, you all remember to take your magnesium a couple of hours after eating, or an hour before eating. It alkalinizes your stomach and that is very bad. You all need stomach acidity for proper digestion and food absorption. Type As tend to have lower stomach acidity in general and that is why they are not prone to eat meats.

Thank you very much for this post.

I was adding again the magnesium chloride and I had two really bad experiences. I took a 2500 grams (400mg of magnesium) when beginning to eat! I had pain in the stomach and the lower acidity is an issue I did not notice the first time I tried it (time ago).

The recommended dose is around 700mg of magnesium. I have taken glycinate, malate, citrate, and orotate. My favorite is still magnesium citrate as well.

I assume that 700mg is for ion-magnesium, not the original magnesium-chloride.
¿I am correct?

 

[Gaby]

I assume that 700mg is for ion-magnesium, not the original magnesium-chloride.
¿I am correct?

Yes, the magnesium chelate forms usually tell you how much of magnesium you are getting, but it is just an estimation.

 

[Lucius]

I have done some additional searching and have found a cheap place to buy magnesium chloride in Europe. It is from a German site and costs only EUR 3.50 per kilo if you buy 5 kilos. The shipping costs vary from country to country and range from approximately 7-10 Euros for most of Europe.

According to the site (and my very rusty German skills) the product is the cleanest pharma grade quality and approved for human food stuff. However, it does not explain what criteria need to be met to be granted such approval.

If it is considered bad form to recommend specific products please let me know.

_www.aquafair.de/product_info.php/cPath/45_63/products_id/369

From what I read you need 700mg of magnesium per day,
Magnesium chloride - dissolved in water and mud to do 1 hour before bedtime? or bathwater? and how many mg of magnesium chloride? to 1 liter of water?

magnesium chloride want to buy a German shop, as in the link above

 

[jordifs]

Magnesium chloride - dissolved in water and mud to do 1 hour before bedtime? or bathwater? and how many mg of magnesium chloride? to 1 liter of water?

magnesium chloride want to buy a German shop, as in the link above

I take this:
http://www.anamarialajusticia.com/index.php?opcion=35&prod=47

As indicated in this bottle, a single little spoon contains about 2.5gr of product or 300mg of ion-magnesium.
I cannot take the recommended dosage because my bowels. I flush all content out.
Instead I take half a spoon with a glass full of water twice.
And I do this with a time delay (30 - 60 minutes).
My bowels flush anyway, but more gently.
I do not feel comfortable going to bed with this bowels movement.
Instead I take during the evening, after lunch and with some hours to let the bowels effect pass.
I cannot imagine to go meditate or sleep after dinner or magnesium intake.

 

[Green_Manalishi]

As i was searching more information about magnesium chloride, i found there is a very pure form of it that is called "for analysis" (direct translation from Portuguese, don't know if that is the designation in English). Apparently this "grade" of magnesium chloride doesn't have, or has very few, heavy metals and other toxins in it.

As i had already bought a vial of 100g of magnesium chloride in a pharmacy i decided to check the composition of it made by the laboratories that manufactured it. I found the following:

heavy metals - <5.0 ppm

Arsenic - <2 ppm

aluminium - <1.0 ppm

bromides - <500 ppm

sulphates - < 50 ppm


Has anyone heard of this "for analysis" grade, and has anyone checked the magnesium chloride you're taking?

 

[jordifs]

Green_Manalishi,

The product I take does not provide such detailed information. It do mention “stearate magnesium”. I attach information about it.
I do believe that the product itself may be contaminated. I have not a scientific proof, but my body (my noose) reacts immediately when I consume it. My breathing capacity is reduced for some time (I recover easily). Nonetheless, it is a very bad sign, as I noticed that my body is now very sensitive to anything I eat.
I'm looking to switch, as soon as possible, to an alternative source.
I did research and tested few pills (I trusted very few companies). The results showed adverse reactions. I ended trusting no one.
It is very valuable when the body shows an adverse reaction. I do trust my body over any information pharma is going to publish (and write on a label).

About “magnesium stearate”:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_stearate

Comments on toxicity:
_http://www.articlesbase.com/wellness-articles/are-you-being-poisoned-the-danger-of-magnesium-stearate-and-stearic-acid-in-our-health-supplements-443927.html

90% of people who take health supplements are poisoning themselves. How?

If you've heard anything about Magnesium Stearate, or Stearic Acid as it is sometimes called, you know that vitamin and supplement bottles everywhere are loaded down with potentially dangerous and life endangering additives that don't need to be there. The reality is that you probably have not heard of Stearic Acid though and that is a shame, because you are missing key bits of information that can help to save your life.

What is Magnesium Stearate?

Magnesium Stearate is absolutely useless to your body; a metal derivative that your body has absolutely no conceivable use for. Supplement companies have been intentionally misleading their customers for some time now, making it sound like the inclusion of this additive is helpful to your general welfare. The truth is much more frightening and a substantial bit more dangerous.

Magnesium Stearate or Stearic Acid is basically a toxin; a combination of hydrogenated oils that gets into your body and starts killing cells almost immediately. The worst part is that there is Stearic Acid in over 90% of the pills currently on the market. Sometimes it is because of the age of the equipment being used to produce pills; other times it is because supplement companies are trying to milk every last bit of profit out of their machines.

So, how does Magnesium Stearate make its way into your supplements so often? It is a manufacturing tool, used to lubricate the machinery and produce more pills, faster. To be more accurate, Stearic Acid is the byproduct of the hydrogenated oils that are used to lubricate the machinery, having accumulated the metals that saturate these highly dangerous oils. Because they are used to lubricate every aspect of pill production, these hydrogenated oils have saturated every ounce of your supplements, making up as much as 5% of a 1000 mg capsule. Not only does this waste valuable supplement space just so a company can make more pills and more money, it reduces the effectiveness of the pills you are taking.

In addition to weakening your pills, Magnesium Stearate may be loaded with pesticides that are used on the Cottonseed Oil that has been hydrogenated. In addition, with the chemical structure of the fatty acids in Stearic Acid having been altered through close contact with various metal catalysts at extremely high temperatures, the risk of toxicity increases dramatically, introducing countless toxic compounds into your body as a result.

While the companies that produce Vitamins and Supplements may want you to believe that the use of Magnesium Stearate and Stearic Acid in your pills is safe, they are not fooling anyone. You owe it to yourself and your future well being to go to the cupboard right now and remove any pills in there that might contain anything with either of these highly dangerous supplements in them. The market has supported this shoddy, irresponsible production for too long and the health of the industry's consumers should not need to suffer for it.

Read more: http://www.articlesbase.com/wellness-articles/are-you-being-poisoned-the-danger-of-magnesium-stearate-and-stearic-acid-in-our-health-supplements-443927.html#ixzz1CXPwczWh
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_http://www.livestrong.com/article/257064-adverse-effects-of-magnesium-stearate/

Renal Complications Demonstrated in Laboratory Animals
The United States National Library of Medicine Toxicology Data Network (TOXNET) lists the toxic effects that occurred when magnesium stearate was fed to experimental rats. In some rats, urinary stones developed, and in others a condition known as nephrocalcinosis occurred, where excess calcium deposits in the kidneys. Nephrocalcinosis is a dangerous condition that may lead to kidney damage and failure.

Human Health Effects
The United States National Library of Medicine Toxicology Data Network lists various potential health side effects of magnesium stearate in humans. The network has deemed the chemical slightly toxic if ingested. There have even been reports of deaths following accidental inhalation of baby dusting powder containing magnesium stearate as an ingredient. In cases of accidental ingestion of a large dose, it can result in acute magnesium toxicity manifested by weakness, a drop in blood pressure and a slowing of the heart.

Other Adverse Effects
The International Programme on Chemical Safety mentions several chemical hazards related to magnesium stearate. In addition to being spontaneously combustible, magnesium stearate is said to emit toxic fumes and pungent smoke when heated. The International Programme on Chemical Safety further enumerates that this can affect breathing and cause the development of coughing. Vomiting can also be triggered as a result of the ingestion of magnesium particles scattered in the air as a result of heating.

_http://www.livestrong.com/article/32085-health-risks-magnesium-stearate-capsules/

Toxic
Another common health risk claimed by opponents of magnesium stearate is toxicity. For example, in her article titled "Are You Being Poisoned? The Danger of Magnesium Stearate and Stearic Acid In Our Health Supplements," Cardenas claims that magnesium stearate is poison. However, the Life Extension Foundation reports that oral toxicology research shows that 14.5 grams per day of magnesium stearate would be needed to create a toxic effect. That dosage is equivalent to swallowing 1,450 capsules a day, assuming the standard 10 mg of magnesium stearate per 1000 mg capsule.
Includes Hydrogenated Oils

In her article, Cardenas goes on to say that magnesium stearate is a toxin, filled with hydrogenated oils. Hydrogenating fatty acids is a chemical process that turns oils into solids at room temperature, creating trans fats. She claims that magnesium stearate starts killing cells as soon as it enters the body. Stearic acid is naturally found in meats, fish, grains, eggs, butter and chocolate. In fact, stearic acid makes up a large amount of the fatty acids in chocolate, and is not a trans fat. Further, author and dietary fat expert Udo Erasmus reports that excess stearic acid in the body is converted to oleic acid, the omega-9 fat found in olive oil.

 

[mcb]

Has anyone heard of this "for analysis" grade, and has anyone checked the magnesium chloride you're taking?
...

Possibly the term means "reagent grade?"

 

[SophiaSpeaks]

Hi All!

Having recently received my 99+ pure, food grade magnesium chloride, I have been testing different methods of application. Using a sprayed mixture of 50% MgCl2 + H2O, I found that it stung the most in the lymphatic areas of the body (inner thighs, under arms, backs of the knees). Then I tested on two consecutive nights both DMSO and Castor Oil after the application of MgCl2 in order to drive the magnesium deeper into the tissues.

The DMSO seemed to intensify the tingling but the duration was shorter than just MgCl2 alone. However, the Castor Oil did not intensify the tingling but the duration was longer. I suspect that is because the Castor Oil can penetrate the tissues for a depth down to 10 cm.

However before I continue on with this experiment, I am also concerned about chemical reactions between the mag. chloride and DMSO or Castor oil. Having been out of chemistry for over 25 years, I'm wondering if anyone else would know the possible reactions?

DMSO = C2H6OS and is a dipolar solvent that is a hydrogen donor. In the book, "The DMSO Handbook" it says that it tends to accept rather than donate protons???

CASTOR OIL = Ricinoleic 90%, Linoleic 3-4%, Oleic 3-4% . The ricinoleic formula is C17H32(OH)COOH.

Also, I have found that skin brushing with a stiff bristled brush prior to spraying and then working the "oil" into the skin with a firm massage also increases the time and intensity of the tingling. Has anyone else found ways to drive the Mg deeper into the skin? Wondering if heating my whole body in a warm bath first would be beneficial prior to spraying it on? No, I don't want to bathe in it because it would use too much.

Thanks to the whole team sharing their experiences. It has been an invaluable resource as I continued on with more research.

 

[Green_Manalishi]

Trying to put this in perspective:

heavy metals - <5.0 ppm

Arsenic - <2 ppm

aluminium - <1.0 ppm

bromides - <500 ppm

sulphates - < 50 ppm

In a 100g vial we will have 0,1mg of Aluminium and 0,2mg of arsenic and 0,5mg of heavy metals. Since 100g would last (by oral intake) for 2/3 of an year, maybe it is not that bad.

Arsenic appears to be essential for some plant and animal species. A possible safe dose for humans was calculated. If arsenic is a dietary mineral, this dose would be 15-25 μg. This amount could be absorbed from food without any trouble. The total amount of arsenic in a human body is about 0.5-15 mg. Many arsenic compounds are absorbed 60-90%, but they are also easily excreted. Humans can develop resistance to certain arsenic concentrations. Shortly after absorption arsenic can be found in liver, spleen, lungs and digestive tract. Most arsenic is excreted, and residues may be found in skin, hair, nails, legs and teeth.

Marine organisms normally contain arsenic residues ranging from < 1 to more than 100 mg/kg, predominantly as organic arsenic

Although in living organisms the arsenic in organic, which seems to be less dangerous than the non organic arsenic, which is in all probability the one present in the Mg vials.

I'll have to check aluminium later, but regarding arsenic it seems that the quantity present isn't significantly high. But one is always afraid that it will do more bad than good. Also Mg that is bought in health store might be even worse (don't know if they test their products as thoroughly as a pharmacy lab), at least i know what i'm taking.

Another source of Mg is Nigari which is a see weed. And since

Marine organisms normally contain arsenic residues ranging from < 1 to more than 100 mg/kg, predominantly as organic arsenic

i'm beating this Nigari has some arsenic in it.

 

[Green_Manalishi]

As anyone noted a change in smell in your urine after taking magnesium?

I started taking it a week ago and a muscular problem i had for years seems to be getting better, i can actually feel the change from day to day. But my urine has started to smell kind of funky (not bad), just a really strong odor. Don't know if this a good analogy but it reminds me of the of buckwheat baked goods.

Could be excess magnesium being washed away, but everywhere i read on the net, it is said that excess magnesium is excreted in the stools.

 

[JonnyRadar]

As anyone noted a change in smell in your urine after taking magnesium?

I started taking it a week ago and a muscular problem i had for years seems to be getting better, i can actually feel the change from day to day. But my urine has started to smell kind of funky (not bad), just a really strong odor. Don't know if this a good analogy but it reminds me of the of buckwheat baked goods.

Could be excess magnesium being washed away, but everywhere i read on the net, it is said that excess magnesium is excreted in the stools.

I take between 800-1200 mg per day and haven't noticed anything different about my urine since I started. I have noticed however that when I drink less water, my urine smells more potent. How is your water intake?

 

[mcb]

As anyone noted a change in smell in your urine after taking magnesium?

I started taking it a week ago and a muscular problem i had for years seems to be getting better, i can actually feel the change from day to day. But my urine has started to smell kind of funky (not bad), just a really strong odor. Don't know if this a good analogy but it reminds me of the of buckwheat baked goods.

Could be excess magnesium being washed away, but everywhere i read on the net, it is said that excess magnesium is excreted in the stools.

Not from taking magnesium, no. It happens occasionally, though, after I eat something "bad" (I am still testing to find out exactly what I need to avoid).

 

[JGeropoulas]

As anyone noted a change in smell in your urine after taking magnesium?

I started taking it a week ago and a muscular problem i had for years seems to be getting better, i can actually feel the change from day to day. But my urine has started to smell kind of funky (not bad), just a really strong odor. Don't know if this a good analogy but it reminds me of the of buckwheat baked goods.

Could be excess magnesium being washed away, but everywhere i read on the net, it is said that excess magnesium is excreted in the stools.

I never have, but I definitely do if I eat asparagus.

 

[3DStudent]

As anyone noted a change in smell in your urine after taking magnesium?

I have never noticed it with magnesium, and I recently started taking it transdermally. I've been taking it orally for many months now. I do know what you mean about the buckwheat, sometimes you can smell the buckwheat when you go. :P