31 May 97
Q: First question: You say that EM is interwoven with gravity.   Santilli says  that EM and gravity are the same.  But, then there is light.  Light  is EM  radiation.  If so, then how is it that gravity, which is interwoven  with  EM, travels faster than EM, that is: supercedes light speed? 
A: Gravity does not "travel." 
Q: Well, when you say that gravity 'supercedes' light speed, what  exactly  do you mean? 
A: Gravity is equally located in all realms at once, in space/time. 
Q:  Now, the possible answer is that gravity travels as a phase,  while  light travels as a 'bunch' of waves.  Is this the correct  understanding? 
A: The gravity wave is merely a "ripple" in the omnipresent fabric;  the  base energy  facilitator. 
Q: What is a fabric base facilitator? 
A: Gravity is the fabric, and energy facilitator as well.   
Q: If gravity is the fabric, base and facilitator, what is being  facilitated? 
A: You read it wrong.  It is base, as in "basic" energy facilitator. 
Q: How does gravity facilitate... (A) What does it facilitate? 
A: We have told you before that gravity is the foundational force of  absolutely everything!!!  This means at all density levels, all  dimensions...  It is the "stuff" of all existence.  Without it, nothing would exist.  Your  thoughts are based in gravity, too!! 
Q: Okay, you said that light is the energy expression of gravity.   How  does light manifest at 7th density? 
A: Light is seventh density. 
Q: Well, so light is 7th density.  And you said that light is the  energy  expression of gravity.  And you said that gravity is God. So, does  this  also mean that light is gravity? 
A: No. 
Q: Okay, what is the distinction between gravity and light? 
A: What is the distinction between concrete and cement? 
Q: Well, I am not entirely sure.  I think cement is a concentrated  stuff  and that concrete has sand and rocks and so forth mixed with it to  make  it work better. And it has water mixed with it.  How does light  manifest  on 6th density?  Can you give me a relationship?  
A: Vague. 
Q: Well, I know it's vague!  You say that light is 7th density.  You  say  that gravity is God, and God and 7th density are the same, and... 
A: No. 7th density is "union with the One." 
Q: What is the distinction between union with the One and God? 
A: Only at 7th density is God unified. 
Q: When God 'disunifies,' or 'destabilizes,' or 'disperses,' where,  and I  know 'where' is not the right term, what density is then manifested? 
A: Wrong concept totally. 
Q: What is the RIGHT concept? 
A: Well, first of all, God does not destabilize or disperse, for that  matter.   Purge the linear inner concept. 
Q: Okay, I am purging.  All just simply is.  At 7th density there is  union  with the One.  At 6th density there is... what?  An equal balance of  dark  and light, or being and non-being, is that correct? 
A: Pure consciousness no need to physicalise. 
Q: And, I think that there are the 3 ethereal densities, and the 3  material  densities, and the middle density, the variable physical/ethereal  density... 
A: Close. 
Q: And these densities are only distinguishable by virtue of the  nearness  to union with the One, is that correct? 
A: Nearness? 
Q: Well, you know I don't mean it in a that sense... Help me out here! 
A: No, you are doing just fine. 
Q: Now, I am seeing it sort of like the perpendicular reality image.   The  circle in the center, and the outraying perpendicular realities which  go out  and out and out, and eventually come back to the center, because the  gravity in the center brings them back.  Something happens in a  concentric circle sort of way, or in the idea of the shells of an  atom sort  of way, that distinguishes shells, or states of being, in relation to  this  center and these perpendicular realities.  What is the level of  shells, the  realm levels, what is the relationship between the perpendicular  reality  and its moving outward that distinguishes it at certain relational  points  from the center itself?  I understand that it is consciousness, but  we are  also dealing with non-being.  Being and non-being.  What is the  relationship of these perpendicular realities to the seven realms of  existence? 
A: Not essentially correct.  Perpendicular reality is  knowledge/awareness/being matrix.  Realms are merely experiential  divisions based upon consciousness energy directors. 
Q: What are consciousness energy directors? 
A: Compare yourself to your backyard denizen.  How do each of you  view calculus? 
Q: Well, I don't know exactly what calculus is, but I know it is  important.  I never thought I was able to learn such things, so I  didn't  try.  But, I think it is important, and someday I will know something  about it.  I am sure that the dog would not only think it is not  useful,  he would not even be aware of it.  How does that relate to  consciousness  energy directors? 
A: All in nature seeks balance.  One day, so to speak, "Percy" will  indeed  have an opinion of calculus. 
Q: Okay, so consciousness energy directors are like a horizontal  reality in  relation to the perpendicular ones? 
A: Slots, my dear, slots. 
Q: Are these slots comparable to the appearing and disappearing of  electrons in the shells of an atom? 
A: Not the point.  You are still trying to use 3rd density awareness  to  measure the reality parameters of all other density levels... Talk  about  your square peg and your round hole!  Tell Arkadiusz to trust in  gravity  waves to be merely his pathway to higher understanding, not the means  to an end. 
Q: Now you have mentioned these 'slots.'  What are these slots, and  how  does one move from one slot to another? 
A: Picture this: you have 7 sizes of marbles.  You have 7 widths of  slots.   Where do the marbles "fit in." 
Q: Do the marbles represent units of consciousness? 
A: Close.  Or, divisions of consciousness level energy resonance  profiles. 
Q:  Do these divisions of consciousness grow and change? 
A: Yes. 
Q: And they grow and change through acquiring knowledge, is that  correct? 
A: Basically. 
Q:  And acquiring knowledge is akin to acquiring energy? Or light?  Light  energy? 
A: Not exactly.  That would be like saying that "filling up" at the  gas  station is akin to acquiring speed. 
Q: So, knowledge and light are like the gas for the car, but speed  comes  from utilization? 
A: Yes. 
Q: And utilization means... 
A: Knowledge application which generates energy, which, in turn,  generates light. 
Q: So, when one of these marbles is in a slot, does it fill up with  gas  which then enables it to move to another slot? 
A: What!?! 
Q: Well, I'm using your analogy! 
A: No, you are mixing analogies! 
Q:  Let me back up then, and regroup.  We have marbles in slots... 
A: What causes the marbles to go into the slots?  Gas?!?? 
Q: Okay.  Where do they get the gas from? 
A: That was an entirely different analogy, used only as a retort to  an  erroneous assumption, nothing more! 
Q: Let me back up again.  Marbles in slots.  What are the slots? 
A: An analogy to depict realms for you. 
Q: Do the marbles move from one slot to another? 
A: When, and only when, they have acquired the proper fit. 
Q: Oh.  How do they acquire the proper fit? 
A: How do you?
 
Q: I guess you grow?  
A: Okay.