Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

[Beau]

If the rumors are true, it yet again looks like Trump is choosing the worst people.

I was willing to live with Stefanik at the UN. Fine, whatever. But there were WAY better choices than Rubio. This is like '16 when Trump picked Bolton. Just plain ignoring the mandate. There are some people saying Trump hasn't officially announced Rubio, it was leaked by NYT's Maggie Haberman, so there's a slight chance Rubio isn't the choice and it was another leak to the press to gauge response. I doubt it though. Feels like a return for a favor of some sort. Rubio isn't that much different than Liz Cheney for cryin out loud.

 

[Adobe]

Trump Expected To Tap Rubio As Secretary Of State​

by Tyler Durden

"There's a possibility that the Rubio rumors are being advanced by those who want him in that position, or that Trump is using a leak to test public reaction."

'The positive vibes were quickly shattered by reports that Trump will place three quintessential neocons in key national security and diplomacy positions -- Stefanik as UN ambassador, Waltz as national security advisor, and Rubio as Secretary of State. All three are anti-Iran hawks, zealous backers of the State of Israel, and major beneficiaries of pro-Israel lobbyists. According to Track AIPAC, pro-Israel groups have given more than $1 million to Rubio, $900,000 to Stefanik, and $235,000 to Waltz."

"The Times report on Rubio's apparent selection came after reports that contenders for the State job also included Tennessee Sen. Bill Hagerty, former acting director of national intelligence Richard Grenell and -- as a dark horse -- former presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy. One of the most hawkish of US senators, Rubio has promoted an aggressive stance against China, pushed for regime change in Venezuela, absolved Israel of any responsibility for tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Gaza, and advocated for US military preemption of a hypothetical Iranian nuclear weapon program:"

More links, X's, facts and speculations in the zerohedge report below:

Trump Expected To Tap Rubio As Secretary Of State | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[Cosmos]

I was willing to live with Stefanik at the UN. Fine, whatever. But there were WAY better choices than Rubio. This is like '16 when Trump picked Bolton. Just plain ignoring the mandate. There are some people saying Trump hasn't officially announced Rubio, it was leaked by NYT's Maggie Haberman, so there's a slight chance Rubio isn't the choice and it was another leak to the press to gauge response. I doubt it though. Feels like a return for a favor of some sort. Rubio isn't that much different than Liz Cheney for cryin out loud.

Sometimes I wonder if Trump is at times picking lunatics on purpose because he wants to look tough not only within America but towards other countries? At least you could speculate about that given what he claimed about Bolton for example.

The problem seems to be though that his rational for doing so is based on believing a lot of mainstream nonsense/lies, such as: “Dictators like Putin or Xi understand only the language of violence, threat’s and pressure.“

Trumps main problem might be that he believes a lot of nonsense (as most Americans do) in addition of being shockingly naive at times.

On the other hand one could argue for this idea: “keep your friends close and your enemies closer“.

Although in that case Trump is probably overestimating his ability to handle such people in such ways.

 

[Beau]

If Rubio and Waltz haven't yet been selected, then Trump should release a statement saying that. He hasn't said anything, so we are left to wonder.

 

[Z...]

I think she may be a bit too pessimistic regarding Trump, his intentions and what he might achieve. The presidential election is more than a "dead end", even if Trump ends up having to go along with some of the globalist agendas again.

I wouldn’t say Catherine Austin F. Is pessimistic ever. She is just realistic and firmly grounded - and reality is pretty grim at the moment.

 

[luc]

Sometimes I wonder if Trump is at times picking lunatics on purpose because he wants to look tough not only within America but towards other countries?

I think Trump said explicitly that this was his play with Bolton at the time, so it's not unlikely.

Here's a blackpill: that Trump would get anything done against the Deep State was always a long shot, much less some of his more colorful ideas. Tulsi was never going to be Sec of State - she is a former democrat and this is not how it works. Same for RFK, a lot depends on how much influence he will actually get, both on paper and in terms of support behind the scenes. And so on. We should not kid ourselves here.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

 

[JGeropoulas]

Report: President-Elect Donald Trump Considering Marco Rubio as Secretary of State

President-elect Donald Trump is considering tapping Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) as secretary of state, according to the New York Times.

www.breitbart.com

Reports: Kristi Noem to Get Homeland Security Job

President Donald Trump has picked South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem to run the vast Department of Homeland Security.

www.breitbart.com

Donald Trump Picks GOP Rep. Mike Waltz to Be National Security Adviser

President-elect Donald Trump selected Rep. Mike Waltz (R-FL) to serve as his White House National Security Adviser.

www.breitbart.com

Donald Trump Chooses Former Rep. Lee Zeldin to Lead the EPA

President-elect Donald Trump chose former New York Rep. Lee Zeldin (R) to lead the Environmental Protective Agency.

www.breitbart.com

 

[SummerLite]

Jack Poso


@JackPosobiec

MSNBC ratings have cratered 50% since the election and Comcast is considering cutting it loose and selling it

 

[Laurentien2]

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

Well said Luc, Trump as to navigate a real cesspool. After two attempt on is life, one that came to centimetre to take is life, he may be playing the deep state to at least as a chance to get to his inauguration. A lot can happen until then and as the C’s told us, he know what he is again and certainly by now know what they are capable of doing. We trusted him so far and he has learned a lot from his first 4 years as commander in chief. So let be patient and pray that he see the 20 of January.

If there are darker motives behind is choice and I certainly could come up with some, I’m not ready to contemplate them right now but none the less, will continue to pay close attention.

 

[SummerLite]

Rubio hasn't been announced on Truth Social yet where Trumps posting his picks, so fallowing that may be helpful.

Truth Social

Truth Social is America's "Big Tent" social media platform that encourages an open, free, and honest global conversation without discriminating on the basis of political ideology.

truthsocial.com

Benny Johnson claims he received the initial whip vote to head the Senate and posted it on X. 2 Rino;s in the lead and MAGA candidate Rick Scott failing. A giant explosion of MAGA voters ensues with phone calls and X messages to these Reps who are reported not voting for Scott. Senator Kennedy claims on Fox no such vote was held and he will support Trump. So was this vote real or a sceme to get the public to support Scott? The list is in this post. The vote is to be secret.....not good.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856120722948599948

 

[Beau]

Those have all been mentioned in this thread already, aside from Kristi Noem. Please read first before posting @JGeropoulas

 

[JEEP]

But there were WAY better choices than Rubio.

More links, X's, facts and speculations in the zerohedge report below:

Yes, I was quite unhappy to see Rubio (supposedly) selected for Sec. of State and @Adobe 's linked article fleshes that out.

Sometimes I wonder if Trump is at times picking lunatics on purpose because he wants to look tough not only within America but towards other countries?

Who's to say they are for real and not just for show so to speak? One can speculate that these picks are an effort by Trump to actually stay alive to become president by placating Deep State elements.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect.

For sure, it's a wait and see situation, but his landslide win should tip the scales in favor of a reversal of "what has been." It would be an enormous mistake on Trump's part to not do his utmost best to right the sinking ship - including US stance on foreign policy - and let the evildoers continue to have their way assuming he can finally comprehend the bigger picture. Prayers for the best outcome are a must imo.

 

[Cosmos]

I think Trump said explicitly that this was his play with Bolton at the time, so it's not unlikely.

Here's a blackpill: that Trump would get anything done against the Deep State was always a long shot, much less some of his more colorful ideas. Tulsi was never going to be Sec of State - she is a former democrat and this is not how it works. Same for RFK, a lot depends on how much influence he will actually get, both on paper and in terms of support behind the scenes. And so on. We should not kid ourselves here.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

Well said Luc, Trump as to navigate a real cesspool. After two attempt on is life, one that came to centimetre to take is life, he may be playing the deep state to at least as a chance to get to his inauguration. A lot can happen until then and as the C’s told us, he know what he is again and certainly by now know what they are capable of doing. We trusted him so far and he has learned a lot from his first 4 years as commander in chief. So let be patient and pray that he see the 20 of January.

If there are darker motives behind is choice and I certainly could come up with some, I’m not ready to contemplate them right now but none the less, will continue to pay close attention.

All very good points to keep in mind!

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I think Trump said explicitly that this was his play with Bolton at the time, so it's not unlikely.

Yeah, he said this during the Rogan interview, how he kept Bolton around because it was good walking into a talk with foreign leaders with a nutjob.

Here's a blackpill: that Trump would get anything done against the Deep State was always a long shot, much less some of his more colorful ideas. Tulsi was never going to be Sec of State - she is a former democrat and this is not how it works. Same for RFK, a lot depends on how much influence he will actually get, both on paper and in terms of support behind the scenes. And so on. We should not kid ourselves here.

Here's a white pill: We can't infer from this or that appointment that everything will go to hell, or that everything will be perfect. There is a lot going on behind the scenes we don't know, and the real test will be how Trump and his team react in real situations when they are in power, and how the team works. Official positions are not the only marker, it's about who of these people, including those with no real titles, wields actual influence and can pull it off. One hopeful sign is for example that there is a phalanx of MAGA influencers that are tracking Deep State shenenigans closely and that have the ear both of Trump and the movement. This can be real power. So wait and see I suppose.

Here's a similar take on X:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1856330781984973033

Basically, he has to throw the establishment a bone with some appointments, but the hope is that he will control them and fire them if they go off script. Some are pointing out that even with all the neocons in his first administration, he didn't start any new wars.

 

[Beau]

Basically, he has to throw the establishment a bone with some appointments, but the hope is that he will control them and fire them if they go off script. Some are pointing out that even with all the neocons in his first administration, he didn't start any new wars.

One way to keep Rubio under control would be to give Sec Def to Tulsi. That's apparently the post she desires. It would also be a nice gesture to Gabbard, who likely brought a good number of centrist/libertarian votes Trump's way with her endorsement, expecting her foreign policy stance to be part of Trump's admin.