Yeah, one could also see it as finally releasing a valve on a pressure cooker after a long time of pressure building. During Obama's 8 spell binding years in power, all his voters and the now turned ant-Trump protesters, were in a sense not allowed to protests. They had their man, a man of colour and a cool guy, and though the inequalities persisted and in many places got worse, then they were putting the gag on themselves, much like during Slick Willy's presidency, where during the ongoing Starr investigations, the democrats kept quite on the neo-liberal/con policies,so as not to make things for their 'democratic' president even worse.Seppo Ilmarinen said:Laura said:SummerLite said:Something happened to a portion of the liberals during the 8 years of Obama, what was it? so many where on their toes during the Bush years and against everything he stood for and watching closely. Maybe people where to wide awake and in need of a sleeping pill, enter Barack Obama with his soothing speech and manner . The neocon agenda moved behind closed doors, no longer in ones face and gave people a much needed rest and time to dream of other things. The New Age movement was going strong during all this time, lots of dreaming going on there, makes me consider what is behind that (I think we know for the most part). In some New Age circles, channelers portrayed Obama as an enlightened being doing his best to save us. Others where dreaming about human rights a lot, I guess. Then all of a sudden BAM! The alarm clock goes off and Trump is the new president! People stumble from their beds agitated and confused then become angry THIS IS NOT MY DREAM they scream! What the hell is going on here??? Who is this man ragging all around and making so much noise and changing things! But they are still dreaming, the scenery has changed and now they find themselves in a nightmare with Hitler.
A lot of these sleepy heads are very young and the dream is all they've known. I wonder how many people are actually involved in this insane acting out. The numbers may be lower then we think (I hope).
This is an excellent description of what happened. Obama was a spell-binder and it didn't matter how many times I pointed out that he was doing all the same stuff that Bush did, and even worse stuff, the liberals simply paid no attention. And while he was doing all the Bush/Neocon stuff, he salted it with a bunch of liberal stuff here and there to keep the liberals attention focused elsewhere.
To me, it is utterly amazing that so many people did NOT realize that Obama was just Bush and the gang in disguise.
Yeah. Maybe what we're seeing now with these snowflakey-type-vehemently-reacting-people is great example of what happens, when you believe such a lies. Like said, in many ways 8 years of Obama was even worse than Bush years: the lies went deeper with bombing of Libya and Syria (among others), funding and arming terrorists, waging secret wars with drones, creating false flags in Europe and US, worsening living standards, reintroducing cold war, and so on. So many events that would have needed reaction by liberal/humanitarian types, yet they decided to stay asleep. Same time it became harder and harder for them to get on board with what's really going on; first you would have to accept your own ignorance, gullibility and participation as a blind bystander in all these crimes. So much easier to just take the blue pill and keep dreaming.
Now that Trump is the president, these people can finally go out and release all their pent-up emotions as Trump is not from the Democratic party, he is not black and also not a woman.
During the Bush years there was also to a certain degree, a silencing of people due to 'TERROR' and the constant 'bin Laden under the bed' routine. America was at war, so questioning the leaders could be seen as unpatriotic.
So one could make the case, and perhaps it is a weak case, that we are seeing 24 years (Clinton,Bush, Obama) of anger and frustration being released. Coupled with the hysterization and the dumbing down that has taken place during this whole period and the powder keg is ready to go off with untold concequences.
mkrnhr said:Niall said:Laura said:I agree. Americans deserve Trump: he is the reflection of the majority of them and he will bring on the destruction of America. And not because he is a bad person or because the left is good; neither assessment is remotely true. The left HAS gone evil and the Right does have legitimate concerns; they've just lost all capacity for rational thought on both sides.
My sense these last few days is: chaos is coming.
That's my sentiment as well, and it hit me during the latest weeks that at this point there is only destructive chaos ahead. The spread of psychosis is chilling. What amazes me is the notion of liberal arts including at its core grammar, logic, and rhetoric, and not a shred of any of these can be encountered in the actual liberal discourse.
Yes, the ability to think and reason is well and truly gone and it is not surprising that the democracy is heading south. Regarding the liberal arts, I have been pondering the same things as Mkrnhr and especially what it says in the beginning:
_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education
So one can see the combined citizenship as an unformed mass devoid of rational and independent thought and who is at the mercy of the puppet masters to fullfil their whims. And the uncontrolled emotional energies of hundreds of millions of people is a force to be reckoned with. Just like Mao used the young people in the Cultural Revolution in 1966 to cement his position in power, so are the PTB unleashing the millenials to force their agenda and without regard for the destruction that it might herald.The liberal arts (Latin: artes liberales) are those subjects or skills that in classical antiquity were considered essential for a free person (Latin: liberalis, "worthy of a free person")[1] to know in order to take an active part in civic life, something that (for Ancient Greece) included participating in public debate, defending oneself in court, serving on juries, and most importantly, military service. Grammar, logic, and rhetoric were the core liberal arts, while arithmetic, geometry, the theory of music, and astronomy also played a (somewhat lesser) part in education.[2]