Trump era: Fascist dawn, or road to liberation?

SummerLite said:
Hello H2O said:
angelburst29 said:
On John McCain, the great prisoner of war hero, another annoying person. Read this recently about the real circumstances of his Vietnam activities and its good to keep in mind as he spews his vitriol. Likely one of the things "they" have on him.

John McCain: When "Tokyo Rose" Ran for President (a few excerpts) -http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-when-tokyo-rose-ran-for-president/

"Shocking claims were made that McCain may never have been tortured and that he instead spent his wartime captivity collaborating with his captors and broadcasting Communist propaganda, a possibility that seemed almost incomprehensible to me given all the thousands of contrary articles that I had absorbed over the decades from the mainstream media."

"He also had some very interesting things to say about John McCain’s wartime record. According to him, it was hardly a secret in veterans’ circles that McCain had spent much of the war producing Communist propaganda broadcasts since these had regularly been played in the prisoner camps as a means of breaking the spirits of those American POWs who resisted collaboration. Indeed, he and some of his friends had speculated about who currently possessed copies of McCain’s damning audio and video tapes and wondered whether they might come out during the course of the presidential campaign. Over the years, other Vietnam veterans have publicly leveled similar charges, and Schanberg had speculated that McCain’s leading role in the POW cover up might have been connected with the pressure he faced due to his notorious wartime broadcasts."

"In late September 2008 another fascinating story appeared in my morning New York Times. An intrepid reporter decided to visit Vietnam and see what McCain’s former jailers thought of the possibility that their onetime captive might soon reach the White House, that the man they had spent years brutally torturing could become the next president of the United States. To the journalist’s apparent amazement, the former jailers seemed enthusiastic about the prospects of a McCain victory, saying that they hoped he would win since they had become such good friends during the war and had worked so closely together; if they lived in America, they would certainly all vote for him. When asked about McCain’s claims of “cruel and sadistic” torture, the head of the guard unit dismissed those stories as being just the sort of total nonsense that politicians, whether in America or in Vietnam, must often spout in order to win popularity. A BBC correspondent reported the same statements."

"As the original Counterpunch article pointed out, throughout almost the entire war McCain was held at a special section for the best-behaving prisoners, which was where he allegedly produced his Communist propaganda broadcasts and perhaps became such good friends with his guards as they later claimed. Top-ranking former POWs held at the same prison, such as Colonels Ted Guy and Gordon “Swede” Larson, have gone on the record saying they are very skeptical regarding McCain’s claims of torture."

John McCain and the POW Cover-Up
The “war hero” candidate buried information about POWs left behind in Vietnam.
_http://www.unz.com/article/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/

There are many reported incidents where McCains carelessness or incompetence has endangered many lives. Here is one of them,

_https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/07/23/mccain-the-hero-nearly-sunk-an-aircraft-carrier-killed-134-sailors/

McCAIN THE HERO NEARLY SUNK AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER & KILLED 134 SAILORS

Via Lew Rockwell

McCain, when a Lieutenant Commander in the U.S. Navy was a Navy pilot (they call themselves aviators). July 29, 1967 while on the deck and in his plane on the carrier U.S.S. Forrestal he managed to screw up procedures (officially denied and covered up by him and the Navy and also even promoted on Wikipedia if you care to look–reason to follow). He did a smart ass punk attention getting trick by doing a “wet start” up of his jet.

When a pilot wants to be a wise ass or show off, this type of engine start creates a large startling flame and lots of surprise noise from the rear of a jet engine on start up–this was no accident. This and the large subsequent electrical surge and apparent (incorrect and against policy) weapon arming (by the pilot) caused the launching of a powerful Zuni rocket across the carrier’s deck hitting other parked planes (photo below) that were packing 1,000 high-explosive pound bombs. The subsequent massive explosions, fire and destruction went several decks below and nearly sunk this major 82,000 ton U.S. aircraft carrier.

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This stunt and aftermath caused the death of 134 sailors and seriously injure (blow off arms legs, cause blindness and burns to another 161 sailors) and took the ship off the battle line for extensive repairs. Any other Navy pilot causing this type of death and destruction the Navy would have raped him and he would probably still be in the brig. Why not McCain? Well, first with many powerful connections this “little infraction” was covered up by the Navy (our most politically involved/connected service by the way).

You see his grandfather was a famous FOUR STAR Navy admiral and his dad was at the time of the incident was a powerful Navy FOUR STAR admiral and McCain graduated from the Navy Academy. So the old boy Navy tradition cover his ass network went into high gear immediately; and make no mistake, it does exist and it did for him.
 
JGeropoulas said:
Like many others, I have some concerns about Alex Jones, but thought his comments about the dramatic degeneration of the Left were worth sharing:

I think while Jones has a point in some ways, he also can't help but to overdo it. There was the recent clip where he was on Joe Rogan's show where he was going on and on...and on about how the dark forces were connected to google, facebook and AI which were tied into the collective consciousness and making everyone slaves. I wouldn't say he's completely off the mark, but his wild and over-the-top characterization makes him look like he's off his rocker. And he probably is, even if he gets some things semi-accurate.

I don't think his comments on the abyss have a connection with comets, at least in where he is coming from. Such terms are probably more like biblical buzz words for him.
 
Renaissance said:
JGeropoulas said:
Like many others, I have some concerns about Alex Jones, but thought his comments about the dramatic degeneration of the Left were worth sharing:

I think while Jones has a point in some ways, he also can't help but to overdo it. There was the recent clip where he was on Joe Rogan's show where he was going on and on...and on about how the dark forces were connected to google, facebook and AI which were tied into the collective consciousness and making everyone slaves. I wouldn't say he's completely off the mark, but his wild and over-the-top characterization makes him look like he's off his rocker. And he probably is, even if he gets some things semi-accurate.

I don't think his comments on the abyss have a connection with comets, at least in where he is coming from. Such terms are probably more like biblical buzz words for him.
Actually, Jones didn't make any comments about the abyss. He just quoted Lana Del Rey concerning her binding spell which invoked the "demons of the abyss". I was the one who made the comments between Jones' quote boxes, including the Bible quote connecting the "(fallen)angel of the abyss" and comets. I was trying to make the point that perhaps people now calling out to the "demons of the abyss" might be some kind of marker of the nearness of cometary bombardment.
 
The Spotlight on John McCain continues. A look at the McCain Institute caught my eye and is being compared to The Clinton Foundation. Interesting enough, this group claims to educate and seek solutions to the crime of human trafficking. There's likely a lot of information on this group but here is one, short article that provides a few snippets. This may be one of those iceberg subjects and a tiny tip is beginning to show.

-http://usdailydata.com/world-news/mccain-institute-caught-stealing-millions-child-trafficking-donations/

The McCain Institute claims it exists to fight human trafficking, but despite receiving millions in donations from Saudi Arabia, the Rothschilds, and Bloomberg, it has been revealed that none of the money was spent on fighting human trafficking.

The McCain Institute is a huge operation featuring upwards of 80 people including dozens of full time staff and board members including Ashton Kutcher and Lady Lynne Forrester de Rothschild.

Saudi Arabia donated $1,000,000 to the McCain Institute in 2014 in what looks suspiciously like a Clinton Foundation style pay-for-play “donation”, leading many to believe the secret donations explain why he has a certain “viewpoints” about the Middle East, and keeps making secret trips to Syria.With millions of dollars in donations from powerful corporations, governments and billionaire bankers, not to mention John McCain’s presidential campaign money, you would think the Institute is doing all sorts of great things to stop human trafficking, right?

You’d be wrong. In 2012 the Institute donated exactly $500,000. In 2013 it was $500,000 again. In 2014 it was increased to $1,500,000.

Nice, round numbers. It’s almost as if the Institute did nothing else all year except sign one check to keep up the pretense they were actually doing what they tell the public they do.

And to whom or what did that $2.5 million go to? Some human trafficking superfighter, you would think, right?

You’d be wrong again.

It all – every last penny – went to the Arizona State University Foundation (scroll down through the tax returns to see the disclosure).

Which, by the way, does not appear to have anything whatsoever to do with human trafficking. Are we looking at a money laundering operation here? The McCain Institute is starting to look an awful lot like the bogus Clinton Foundation.
 
Renaissance said:
JGeropoulas said:
Like many others, I have some concerns about Alex Jones, but thought his comments about the dramatic degeneration of the Left were worth sharing:

I think while Jones has a point in some ways, he also can't help but to overdo it. There was the recent clip where he was on Joe Rogan's show where he was going on and on...and on about how the dark forces were connected to google, facebook and AI which were tied into the collective consciousness and making everyone slaves. I wouldn't say he's completely off the mark, but his wild and over-the-top characterization makes him look like he's off his rocker. And he probably is, even if he gets some things semi-accurate.

I don't think his comments on the abyss have a connection with comets, at least in where he is coming from. Such terms are probably more like biblical buzz words for him.

Alex Jones overdoing it is a bit of an understatement. There is always a chance of a sudden Freak-out happening with him. This guy is a living stereotype, for people who are not familiar with him, try to watch this if you are capable: (1:50 min)

 
OMG bjorn!!! I could only watch half of that video! There is AJ as Mad Man for sure, so revealing. Sometimes, while watching him on occasion, I feared he may give himself a heart attack. He certainly has an enormous amount of energy it seems. I still consider him an enigma requiring a good portion of salt. Mostly I place him in "the useful idiot category" because I dont know how he could put up such a good act of being concerned and sincere all these years.
 
Trump tweeted this morning (3:30am EST) that Obama had Trump Tower wiretapped this past fall sorta like Watergate. Called Obama "Sick/Bad" for doing so. Obama spokesperson denies that Obama or the White House authorized the tap, but doesn't totally deny there was a tap. Might have to do with Trump/Russia "ties". Crazy if true.

Thus far, Trump has offered no proof of a wiretapping. Not sure where this is going to go, but it's going to be a heck of a ride as it's becoming increasingly clear that Obama, the Deep State and a Soros-backed shadow army are attempting a coup against Trump. _https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-alleges-wire-tapping-obama-during-campaign-130507502.html

Added: Just finished reading a good article on the situation preceding Trump's latest tweets today: https://www.sott.net/article/344356-Washington-and-America-Implode-at-the-Hands-of-a-Treasonous-Obama-Led-Shadow-Government
 
SummerLite said:
OMG bjorn!!! I could only watch half of that video!

Haha he wast just getting started. I am under the believe that AJ is unable to feel embarrassed. I mean, what would it take for him to really feel embarrassed considering all his Apesh*t moments over the years? How Apesh*t must he get before he thinks to himself, ''I better not put this online'' I reckon it would be pretty wild. Assuming he has actually limits.

But enough over AJ I suppose, he has his own topic: https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,1210.msg699397.html#msg699397
 
Scuffles, fistfights erupt as pro and anti-Trump rallies clash in Berkeley (PHOTOS, VIDEO)
Edited time: 5 Mar, 2017 09:18
https://www.rt.com/usa/379462-berkeley-trump-rallies-scuffles/
Snip:
While it is unclear who started the fight, which involved roughly a dozen people from both camps, riot gear police allowed the scuffle to play-out. A half-hour later, another fight flared up, followed by smaller, sporadic scuffles, which the publication noted involved mostly anti-Trump protesters.

The_Dailey
‏ @The_Dailey
My line has just been crossed.
_https://twitter.com/The_Dailey/status/838216169454731264/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Liberals burn Free Speech signs & assault the elderly.
#LiberalTerrorism #Berkeley
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Leigh Martinez‏ @LeighMartinezTV
_https://twitter.com/LeighMartinezTV/status/838156751111270401/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
About 50 people have their faces covered - both pro and anti Trump. #berkeley .@KTVU
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US Police Arrest About 20 People Across Country During March 4 Trump Rallies
https://sputniknews.com/us/201703051051282131-trump-march-rallies-arrests/

Edited:
Just added from Sputnik:
 
Trump asks Congress to establish if Obama admin abused investigative powers

Quote: https://www.rt.com/usa/379501-trump-asks-congress-to-investigate-obama/

The White House has asked the US Congress to investigate alleged abuse of executive power by the Obama administration as part of the investigation into alleged Russian interference in the presidential election.
The request comes a day after US President Donald Trump accused his predecessor of ordering the wiretapping of his phones during the election campaign.

From Twitter: https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/838387994918780928/photo/1

Quite an interesting development and counter-attack. Wait & See

#art
 
There's an interesting video (at least the first part), here of Meyssan if you understand French: https://youtu.be/y6M33baY2r8

He explain that Trump try to build new communication canals with China and Russia to develop the commerce through new "silk roads" so there will no point to do war with those countries. To do that he rely on personal friends of China and Russia leader (Rex Tillerson and Igor Setchine). He is OK with the China proposition to participate in the China investment bank to favour worldwide commerce which is something that the Obama administration always discarded.

Meyssan explain that Amnesty International is managed by a former Hillary Clinton partner (I was not award of this point) and that Trump is in favour of the return of the glass steagall act to protect people money from the casino of the stock market.

Finally the fear is of course a coup, a Casus belli or an assassination to stop him.
 
NormaRegula said:
Trump tweeted this morning (3:30am EST) that Obama had Trump Tower wiretapped this past fall sorta like Watergate. Called Obama "Sick/Bad" for doing so. Obama spokesperson denies that Obama or the White House authorized the tap, but doesn't totally deny there was a tap. Might have to do with Trump/Russia "ties". Crazy if true.

Thus far, Trump has offered no proof of a wiretapping. Not sure where this is going to go, but it's going to be a heck of a ride as it's becoming increasingly clear that Obama, the Deep State and a Soros-backed shadow army are attempting a coup against Trump. _https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-alleges-wire-tapping-obama-during-campaign-130507502.html

Added: Just finished reading a good article on the situation preceding Trump's latest tweets today: https://www.sott.net/article/344356-Washington-and-America-Implode-at-the-Hands-of-a-Treasonous-Obama-Led-Shadow-Government

There was a reputable person on FOX news last night saying she'd heard from a contact of hers who'd been part of the Bush Administration. Her contact said that Obama had definitely wiretapped Trump. Obama's statement was very lawyerly, saying he nor White House staffers had ordered a wiretapping of Trump. Legal experts say this is a meaningless statement because the president could never order such a wiretap anyway.

Such a request would have to be submitted to a FISA judge by the FBI or some other appropriate agency, which would definitely brief the president first, according to a former agent speaking on FOX. Further they would have to provide documentation to that judge demonstrating probable cause to the extent that guilt was almost certain, and the wiretap was needed only to obtain undeniable evidence, which is why, statistically, very few FISA requests are ever denied (and presumably, few targets of such wiretaps escape prosecution).

That's where this current drama gets interesting. It's been reported that a first request to a FISA judge was turned down last September, but that second one was granted in October. So that shows there was a weak justification for the request to wiretap Trump, that somehow morphed to become more convincing by October. Attorneys say the evidence presented to a FISA judge can easily be manipulated because there's no cross-examination or other type scrutiny of it. And seems like I heard them say that the justification for the request was to "do due diligence" vs. "probable cause". (The standards differ between FISA requests related to criminal activity and espionage concerns.)

Also lending credence to the Obama/Clinton plot is the fact that one of the many last-minute actions taken by Obama prior to his departure was to enable all intelligence agencies to share among themselves any information one of them obtained via FISA requests.

So after finally getting permission to wiretap Trump in October, they apparently found nothing to support their suspicions, because if they had found evidence, we can sure that would've been front page news. In other words, Obama's wiretap actually blew up their faces (or is blowing up now) because it proves Trump has no collusion with Russia. But still, knowing that, the Obama/Clinton/media cabal repeatedly pushed the narrative of a Trump/Russia conspiracy.

So this latest development has enormous potential to establish beyond any doubt--or media spin--that:

1- Obama (and by association, Clinton) seriously broke the law/manipulated the FISA judge to spy on a political opponent in a manner much worse than Nixon did with Watergate
2- Trump has no ties to Russia, is not a puppet of Putin, etc.
3- Obama (Clinton) have deliberately made accusations they knew were unfounded about Trump's ties to Russia
4- Mainstream media got it all wrong--again.

Bottom line: Obama/Clinton/media are wrong, and Trump and his "deplorables" are right.

Maybe this will make Obama and Clinton finally exit the stage and fade into obscurity; and all those Soros-funded fake protesters and MSM talking (empty)heads finally quit making noise. Or maybe I'm dreaming.

[And of course, the wiretapping Gen. Michael Flynn's communications, and the Congressional office of then- Senator Jeff Sessions both sound alarms about intelligence gathering being used as a weapon against American citizens. Memo to Libtards and Snowflakes: that's what real "fascism" looks like.|[And of course, the wiretapping Gen. Michael Flynn's communications, and the Congressional office of Senator Jeff Sessions both raise concerns about intelligence gathering being used as a weapon against American citizens--now that's what "fascism" looks like!]
 
SummerLite said:
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Mostly I place him in "the useful idiot category" because I dont know how he could put up such a good act of being concerned and sincere all these years.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I've concluded too.

Ellipse said:
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Finally the fear is of course a coup, a Casus belli or an assassination to stop him.
An assassination attempt would not surprise me one bit. Trump loves a stage, but I sure hope he realizes how easy this makes it for the Deep State to stage his murder by yet another crazed (Libtard) lone gun(wo)man. Given the growing desperation of the Globalists, it wouldn't really surprise me if some "Arabs hijackers" flew a jet into his 3-story penthouse atop Trump Tower--talk about an easy target...and a proven tactic! Think of the mind-warping twist of emotions that would generate, especially between the pro- and anti-Trump factions!
 
Re: Sweden. A friend of mine lives there and is actually in the process of joining the police force. He's also a Caucasian that converted to Islam so his opinions are biased but he is often critical of his fellow Muslims and refugees (he worked in a refugee assimilation center).

Anyway he made a good point: Sweden is supposed to be some rape capital now, yet Germany accepted more refugees and there are nowhere near the amount of reported rapes. He also mentioned that in Sweden the definition of "sexual assault" is extremely vague and broad and that "rape" may be used in cases where crimes lesser than actual rape were committed. FWIW
 
Bloomberg's fake-news agenda.
Trump, Russia and a Watergate Veteran's Deja Vu
March 5, 2017 10:00 AM EST
_https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-05/trump-russia-and-watergate-veteran-john-dean-s-deja-vu
Political pressure to investigate the connections is building. Republican lawmakers were pressed during the congressional recess last month to pursue formal probes. There's a chance that the Senate Intelligence Committee will do so because of prodding by the senior committee Democrat, Mark Warner of Virginia, and a few Republicans led by John McCain of Arizona.

Mark Levin PROVES Trump Wiretapping Claims: ‘The Evidence Is Overwhelming’ #ObamaGate
Published on Mar 5, 2017
Sunday on Fox News Channel’s “Fox & Friends,” while discussing President Donald Trump’s tweets accusing the former Obama administration of wiretapping Trump Tower before the election, conservative radio talk show host Mark Levin broke down the wiretapping reporting.

Levin said, “Well, a pleasure to be here. The evidence is overwhelming. This is not about President Trump’s tweeting. This is about the Obama administration spying, and the question is not whether it spied. We know they went to the FISA court twice. The question is who they did spy on and the extent of the spying that is the Trump campaign, the Trump transition, Trump surrogates

CrossTalk Bullhorns: Politocide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX3pdFEPcIg
Published on Mar 6, 2017
If Joe McCarthy were alive today, he would easily recognize the witch hunt hysteria consuming Washington. Blaming Russia is targeting Donald Trump. The outcome of this is dangerously unclear. CrossTalking with Dmitry Babich, Edward Lozansky, and Alex Christoforou.
 
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