What's the weather where you are?

I think I found a good example of normalcy bias. Cow in this video doesn't want to escape! :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIyoh2a5FI

Also, Doboj before and after the flood. It looks like 3m of water!

And Sremska Mitrovica, previous and this year. It was close!
 

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"To get help for the damage caused by the floods from the European Solidarity Fund, estimated damage must be more than 280 million euros. This applies to damage on infrastructure - roads, water, sewer, electrical grid, etc., but not on private property, said Minister Vesna Pusic."

Of course not when they have interest in that infrastructure - their companies want to privatize it or are already owned by them, or it is major source of income that is being paid to EU for membership or debts to their banks so they are in other ways helping themselves and protecting their investments.

Prime minister said there will be money for reconstruction from state budget but it is probably PR campaign when there is a fire in the booth. After all of it is over, no more media coverage, who would know or ask how did they who lost everything ended up. At least people are smarter and say they do not believe any help will come from goverment, if it will it will be to small to count.

10 days ago Laura started a new thread "Shipping Container Homes". Maybe this idea could be applied somehow as a temporary solution? If too many homes are destroyed by the flood, they government probably won't be able to reconstruct them by winter, but people still need to live somewhere.

That is if people have any money and they do not so they will end up on streets. In Kosovo people who lost their homes due to albanian purges still live in conteniers and that is thanks to russian donations of them.

More likely, the whole 3 countries will get zero of it. But, the firms from the EU will get the job on reconstruction. The EU is a company and as a such it is there to take, not to give. Everything is about the politics, and the Balkan is not Germany after the WW2 with "Marshall plan". In short, if they have no interest, they don't care. Don't believe EU's "numbers and protocols" psychopathic mambo jumbo.

And on the big news services, they too don't have any interest in talking about the floods on the Balkans. They too are just companies which work for specific people and specific goals. So, the news that they broadcasted already, is the all you can get.

Yes, I agree, there is no help, and it is just beginning. We have not seen anything yet.

Considering the scope of destruction I would say that Croatia will get some, Serbia will get majority, and Bosnia will be left with nothing because they are not even a candidate for EU. :(

Sad thing is about Bosnia because it was most devastated by war and is the poorest country of all with worst economic conditions, and now floods. Opposition conservative nationalistic party leader went to croat devastated areas there and invited those people to come to croatia because he said they have nowhere to go, and because there people are conservative, so he said that to get new voters by getting them across border.

BTW Italy in 2009 got €500 million and €670 million in 2012, so that 1% number doesn't sound right at all.

Italy is Italy, Balkan countries are considered second rate countries, it s population is looked upon in EU and west as half-monkeys, barbarians, white slaves and when in other EU countries many assume they are some criminals or look suspicious at them thanks to western stereotypes. Do not know what did you expect, that EU will embrace you with both hands. They give a damn in other words if not in their interest. You are on your own.
 
Testimonies of people from Obrenovac: _http://www.b92.net/video/vesti.php?yyyy=2014&mm=05&dd=21&nav_id=851198
As expected, not much praising for the officials.

I'm sorry for not having a translation of that video, but I do have one interesting anecdote. From Sunday we have only sunny weather, and one kid who is now in the shelter in Belgrade asked one journalist "How come that you have only nice weather here?". :)
That kid probably feels like he escaped into another world.

Also another great article: _http://www.lupiga.com/vijesti/kad-poplava-razotkriva-u-nedostatku-bilo-kakvog-programa-biblijski-potop-ce-posluziti-kao-alibi-za-sve

And picture that I think everybody can understand. That is our PM on the far left. Beautiful day for photo session!
 

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BTW, translation of the link which Persej put would be: "What flood reveals; when you have none of the (social, public) programs, biblical flooding will do for everything."

Nice and affirmative text on Balkan floods in huffingtonpost:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthew-trinetti/serbia-flooding_b_5368500.html


Belgrade, Serbia, totally clear blue sky and temperatures around 30 degrees Celsius. Which is way above the average, which is 23. Sun is killing from the dawn to the dusk, like there is no gradation in light and radiation, its totally the same (and very hard) the whole day. Like there is none of the atmosphere above us.
 
Last Thursday, May 22, parts of Central Pennsylvania and extending down to parts of Montour, Wayne and Pike County's in the Northeast were showered with quick bursts of heavy rain and large hail the size of golf balls and softballs. The wind gusts coming through, felt like a mini-tornado. Many residents and several Car Dealerships are dealing with smashed car windows and dents.

_http://wnep.com/2014/05/22/hail-hits-montour-county-hard/

MONTOUR COUNTY — “It was eerie. I never saw anything really like it before, and then all of a sudden it just broke loose and hail from everywhere.”

People who live near Danville said it was around 3 p.m. Thursday when the storm hit, and when it did, they said it seemed unreal.

“Started out small and got bigger and bigger, probably golf ball size hail, and then it got to, some of them were softball size hail,” said Steve Kaiser of Fairfield Dodge Chrysler Jeep.

At the Fairfield Dealership in Cooper Township, every vehicle on the lot, almost 300 total, was damaged.

There were windshields and mirrors smashed and dents in hoods and doors.

Workers expect it to take weeks to make all the repairs.


_http://wnep.com/2014/05/22/check-out-the-hail-in-central-pa/


Lightning Strikes One World Trade Center As Thunderstorms Overwhelm New York City (VIDEO/PHOTOS)
_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/lightning-world-trade-center_n_5383724.html?utm_hp_ref=email_share

Friday May 23, 2014 -

Mother Nature put on a spectacular light show in the Big Apple Friday night as massive thunderstorms descended upon the city.

Social media was abuzz with videos and photographs taken of the weather event, including some showing lightning striking the spire of the new One World Trade Center.

Two bolts of lightning strike One World Trade Center.
 
This weekend we've had some moments of "sheets of rain" in Calahorra (north of Spain). Temperatures have dropped about 10ºC and yesterday afternoon a lightning has struck the tallest building in the city (14 stories) and some pieces of rubble have fallen on the street.

http://www.larioja.com/comarcas/calahorra/201405/25/desalojan-edificio-calahorra-tras-20140525174646.html

The news say the lightning hit the sixth story, going through the gas piping up to the cornice where it has deflagrated and therefore the pieces of rubble have fallen down.

I must say I live 10 meters away from that building and I pass by that building almost everyday but fortunately nobody was close at that moment and there were only material damage.
 
Chilly and raining in the South of France. We even built a fire in the kitchen this morning. We had a few nice days - didn't get TOO warm, and then plunge back into the gloom.
 
Laura said:
Chilly and raining in the South of France. We even built a fire in the kitchen this morning. We had a few nice days - didn't get TOO warm, and then plunge back into the gloom.
It's been pretty much the same in the UK.
 
Laura said:
Chilly and raining in the South of France. We even built a fire in the kitchen this morning. We had a few nice days - didn't get TOO warm, and then plunge back into the gloom.

The same here in the Southwest of Siberia: chilly and raining for at least one week already. It's +3 C at night and +8 C at noon.

Our weather forcast says "night freeze, wet snow and strong wind to come in the nearest days". I cannot say that it's never happened before, but usually it is much warmer in this time of the year (+15 C on average).

Plus our local authorities decided that we can do without heating and hot water (cause it's almost summer, right?).. :cool2:
 
Warm and sunny in Dalmatia...little raining last night and cloudy this morning so I skipped dipping in Adriatic today (good pause after whole week trifled away on beach) - that means more time for reading here and there (YESSS! :-[)... Lately I long for rainy days so I can stay home by the notbook - ain't that a kind of odd :huh:

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There was nearly summer last week - a really nice warm weather. Today we are back to normal spring temperatures and clouds and its quite OK.

But we have severe weather warning for parts of Bavaria with (thunder) storm up to 85 km/h, sheets of rain (25 to 40 Liter per square meter per hour) and hail for today. There could be local floods. It seems we will get your weather Laura and Prodigal Son.
 
Dirgni said:
There was nearly summer last week - a really nice warm weather. Today we are back to normal spring temperatures and clouds and its quite OK.

But we have severe weather warning for parts of Bavaria with (thunder) storm up to 85 km/h, sheets of rain (25 to 40 Liter per square meter per hour) and hail for today. There could be local floods. It seems we will get your weather Laura and Prodigal Son.

Well, if you get it, I hope it leaves here!!! But it just looks like its spreading. Mother Nature is toying with us...
 
Laura said:
Well, if you get it, I hope it leaves here!!! But it just looks like its spreading. Mother Nature is toying with us...

Yeah she is giving cold weather to all...
I cross my fingers for a warmer weather though. ;)
 
North West UK, over cast but balmy and as the sun sets is now lovely!

However i just wanted to post this as it was just brought to my attention, and after all these rainfall records we've been seeing:

_http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/two-weeks-rain-falls-in-4-hours-in-east-scotland-1-3422535


Two weeks’ rain falls in 4 hours in east Scotland

TORRENTIAL rain battered the east of Scotland yesterday bringing flash floods, traffic jams and the closure of the capital’s zoo.

Hundreds of visitors were evacuated from Edinburgh Zoo after a torrent of water tore down the wall of the Visayan warty pig enclosure.

Traffic Scotland issued a series of warnings after motorists were left stranded in their cars for up to two hours.

The Met Office said about 22mm of rain fell across the capital in just four hours yesterday – half the average 50mm rainfall for the whole of May.

Minutes after the most intense rainfall, the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service said they quickly received calls from homeowners and members of the public.

Properties in Stockbridge, Leith and Craiglockhart in the capital were amongst those ­affected, reporting flooded roofs and ceilings.

Blocked drains across the city also caused a problem.

Flash floods at zoo

Visitors to Edinburgh Zoo spoke of their shock after a flash flood caused staff to close attraction and escort people off the premises.

On Twitter, one visitor, Kiki, wrote: “Walls have collapsed in the zoo. Frightening.”

Ross Delany added: “Torrential rain in Edinburgh, thunder and lightning, water streaming through the zoo, parts totally flooded.”

Zoo staff continued to patrol the premises into the night in case of further flooding.

Deborah Newman, Head of Business Operations & Visitor Services, said: “Late this afternoon a severe fluke flash flood occurred at Edinburgh Zoo, with an extraordinary flow of water coming down the hill.

“As a precaution we immediately closed the zoo, and visitors were escorted out of the zoo.

“The bottom wall of the warty pig enclosure did collapse during the extreme flood as an incredible volume of water backed up out of a drain and pooled heavily against the wall. All visitors and animals were quickly moved to safety and there was no harm to anyone concerned thanks to the quick thinking of our dedicated Zoo staff.”

The zoo confirmed that no animals had escaped during the floods, adding that “all animals were secure at all times”.

Marathon hit by rain

Runners in the Edinburgh Marathon were also affected by the flooding, with one runner Nicola Crowther joking on Twitter: “Only had one thunderstorm to contend with.”

Police were forced to help move traffic after flooding caused the A90 to close from Scotstoun to Edinburgh.

One affected motorist, Nial McKim, 22, from Edinburgh said: “I was driving back from taking my three-year-old nephew to Deep Sea World and I managed to drive over the Forth Road Bridge before we got stuck.

“It took us an hour and half to drive 150 metres. You could see clogged drains beside the Cramond Brig and there was about 2ft of water.

“There was police officers there to try to move the traffic on. I’ve never driven in weather like it.”

Pete Boyd, assistant manager at the Miller and Carter restaurant in Cramond Brig, said: “It has completely flooded outside. We have had customers calling to say they have been stuck in their cars for two hours.

“There are police here who are stopping the traffic each way and directing people through. One customer’s car engine was completely flooded.”
 
Dirgni said:
Laura said:
Well, if you get it, I hope it leaves here!!! But it just looks like its spreading. Mother Nature is toying with us...

Yeah she is giving cold weather to all...I cross my fingers for a warmer weather though. ;)

It has been eclectic days from this side, one day warm --had/is been hot sunlight UV radiation, though. Today we (Mexico City) reached the almost highest (11+) at 1 pm, next cold with rain, just like today too, an electric storm with rain.

That is another thing I had been noticing, we had been having too many electric storms and many earlier (usually they are at evening or night but, at least 5 years ago -if not more- I had observed storms around 2-3 hours earlier. Also, it seems rainy days came earlier this year, usually the season began at mid May, but we experienced rains since mid April.

Well, at least we do not get bored :P, did not get bored last Saturday, one of those storms in which the city does not have the capacity to drain too much water, and many streets were inundate enough for pedestrians and vehicles, it was like a race obstacule, manage to get home with "dry" or not so wet shoes, cannot say with the rest of the clothes, though. At a certain point it was fun. :)
 

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