Who will be moved to the fourth density?

[Alejo]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

hi egzopolityka,

i would pretty much agree with everyone here, in conclusion you will get there when you get there, when will that be? when you're ready, when will you be ready? when you're done learning what you need to learn, how will you know? well, when you have learned then you have learned, you really can't force the natural flow of things, and you can't fake learning, that's why the C's often suggest to relax and enjoy the ride for learning is fun..

try and conceptualize the question being asked, and realize the extreme difficulty that it represents to attempt to answer it.

what does one have to do to enhance the chances of going to 4D, there's no manual, there's no guideline to learning, there's no skipping the lessons; So that question becomes almost or just as difficult to answer as me asking someone else..."am i hungry?" there's no way for anyone else external to you to know what you need to do to enhance your chances, as we all came here with personal paths, and lesson-plans so to speak.

so it's an individual question, that must have an individual answer, and the best way for you to be able to answer that question, is by knowing your self, and i think that's the purpose of this forum and networking, to facilitate that task of knowing one's self, stick around and you will find out..:)

hope my ado helps.

 

[Yozilla]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

It seems to me that here on this topic it is discussed about people's possibility to ascend to 4th STO division... but if I recall correctly there certainly will be some people that will choose 4th STS - or "descend path"? ...watching folks around that could be a significant number.

This reminded me of one interesting article I red decade or two ago, where prophecies about future of humanity were divided in two branches: one living in harmony with nature :) in beautiful landscapes and other in advanced technological environment .... This could be an attempt to depict realities of 4th STO and 4th STS divisions of human race....

 

[Buddy]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

So from those vague answers it seems there is no definite way to tell now if one is going to be moved to the fourth density or not. One can only wait for the wave to arrive (and pray - just a joke - to be moved out of this nasty world). Well, that is what I knew before.

Also, the first aim is to become normal functioning human beings in 3D STS, after thousands of years, or at least an entire life of wrong diet, wrong breathing, wrong assumptions. After that, you'll be able to discern what to do to become STO (and 4D) candidate.

I'm thinking along the same lines as Graalsword.

egzopolityka, if the answers from the C's or members seem ambiguous, it might be because Reality might be 'open' until an 'exact moment' or until 'the last minute' so to speak. There may be a parallel in daily life to help you understand what I'm trying to say here:

Have you ever seen the movie, Bagger Vance? Might you have an idea what Bagger (Will Smith) was trying to teach Junuh (Matt Damon)? If you are so inclined and you can take some first steps toward being prepared to change some assumptions about yourself and reality you probably won't need to worry about a specific answer to that question.

During the hot summer months, when I'm feeling aggravated, hyper, anxious, or whatever, and breathing exercises don't help much, I go to the YMCA and swim a few laps. I know all's OK when I become acutely aware of water gliding over my body from fingertips to toes.

I strongly suspect we are living as much more 'quantum subject' than 'classical object' anyway and that we have ability to temporarily let go of our idea of "me" to experience being blended with the rhythms around us when necessary.

Just my thoughts. :)

 

[luc]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

In short, I think, there is no escaping "this nasty world", as you put it - but the answers, I think, are not vague. Learning what can be learned about how living 3D life works seems to be the whole point - in other words, if one is unable to deal with life in this world, then one can be fairly sure that one is not ready to be going anywhere else.

Exactly. One thing I do when I have thoughts like "Oh, this is such a mess, if only I were at 4D-STO already!" is to tell myself: "What can I do now to live in a more STO fashion? What can I do now to be ready, to improve? What's that all about anyway, a STO-world?"

Then I realize that I'm not there at all, that there are tons of things I can improve, even things that I know exactly how to improve but lack courage and dedication, that right now, in this very moment, there is a challenge that I can master or fail to master... Then, this whole ascension business becomes a lot more practical.

 

[egzopolityka]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

I wonder if in this situation that the world is I could "check out"? A friend of mine has got an access to KCN, I do not mind at all using it.

 

[ocean59]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

I wonder if in this situation that the world is I could "check out"? A friend of mine has got an access to KCN, I do not mind at all using it.

If by KCN you mean potassium cyanide, and by checking out you mean committing suicide - No, that is not a good idea. Period.

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So from those vague answers it seems there is no definite way to tell now if one is going to be moved to the fourth density or not. One can only wait for the wave to arrive (and pray - just a joke - to be moved out of this nasty world). Well, that is what I knew before.
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I also detect some serious tones in your original post here, egzopolityka. You've been given many suggestions of things you can do that can help you in many areas, but it is up to you of course.

If you are seriously contemplating ending your life, I'd highly recommend seeking counselling or professional help - immediately. Nobody here has suggested that to be an option, at all - so please, seek outside medical help (in the form of a doctor) if you need to.

 

[truth seeker]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

If you are seriously contemplating ending your life, I'd highly recommend seeking counselling or professional help - immediately. Nobody here has suggested that to be an option, at all - so please, seek outside medical help (in the form of a doctor) if you need to.

I double that. We're not equipped here to give such advice so if you feel this way, please seek help.

 

[ROEL]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

I wonder if in this situation that the world is I could "check out"? A friend of mine has got an access to KCN, I do not mind at all using it.

I agree with Jason and Truth Seeker. Consider that if you "checked out" you might only delay your work. You might have to restart from a step down. So, chin up and press on... Cheers, egzopolityka.

 

[Noxulus]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

What makes you so sure 'you' will move on anywhere at all? If we are the sum of the collective experience of past lives i find it hard to believe that upon moving to the fourth density i would be the same person i am now. What gives this time around any precedence over the countless other times around?

 

[egzopolityka]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

That is because I have always had a feeling of being a "wanderer" and STO and for many years I have undergone a psychic attack which is becoming pretty difficult to stand these days. This might as well be my first incarnation at the third density as I may come from 5th or 6th density. Human customs and behaviour I perceive as strange and illogical, especially wars.

 

[ana]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

That is because I have always had a feeling of being a "wanderer" and STO and for many years I have undergone a psychic attack which is becoming pretty difficult to stand these days. This might as well be my first incarnation at the third density as I may come from 5th or 6th density. Human customs and behaviour I perceive as strange and illogical, especially wars.

egzopolityka the most important now is not whether you are wanderer from 5th or 6th density but to take care of your psychological health, so as truth seeker suggested please seek the help of professionals that can help you.

 

[Buddy]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

Human customs and behaviour I perceive as strange and illogical, especially wars.

Well, if by "Human customs and behaviour" you mean or include pointless, mind-numbing social-cultural rituals, all you need be is one of the so-called 'disordered' folk (ADD, autistic, Aspy, ect) or a person who can simply be completely, totally in the present to perceive that! I must occasionally remind myself, beforehand, that the person I'm meeting up with hasn't seen me in days, weeks, or months, because my natural tendency is to simply pick up where we left off as if no time had passed!

The realization of so much robot-ism and other ponerizing influences around us can hit us so hard while we are yet children and youth, and be so painful to be conscious of, that many, many people shut down emotionally, create narratives and fantasies to escape into and never really develop their own presentation of sentience that could act as a beacon to 'others' and maybe help build a supportive network in their local contexts.

I understand your need for a satisfactory esoteric identity, but without foundation work, you can do little more than drive yourself crazy with paralyzing doubt, OSIT.

 

[Alana]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

I wonder if in this situation that the world is I could "check out"? A friend of mine has got an access to KCN, I do not mind at all using it.

Mariusz, I find it strange and disturbing that you come to this forum to write the above, when you don't know us, we don't know you, you only made this thread here. Checking out is never a solution to anything. I too think that is best that you seek psychological support from a qualified individual in your area as soon as possible.

 

[bngenoh]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

Hi egzopolityka, i second the advice given by Jason:

I wonder if in this situation that the world is I could "check out"? A friend of mine has got an access to KCN, I do not mind at all using it.

If by KCN you mean potassium cyanide, and by checking out you mean committing suicide - No, that is not a good idea. Period.

Perhaps me sharing my experience will help. At one point relatively recently as i had already joined the forum, i was seriously considering suicide; i was even planning on the best ways to do it, whether to slit my wrists in the bath, take a whole bunch of pills, hang myself from any number of trees outside, etc.

What changed my view on it was perspective, namely that there are others on this planet who suffer to a much greater extent than i do/ did. In this view, i saw suicide as a cowardly act, running away to the aether's in defeat. Cognizing this i said, is this who i am? Who's thoughts are these? Needless to say, i concluded that they were not my thoughts, and that i am here to fight. "They" also know this and in a war, you attack any weaknesses in your opponent, they showed me my weakness and i thank them for that.

As to this:

That is because I have always had a feeling of being a "wanderer" and STO and for many years I have undergone a psychic attack which is becoming pretty difficult to stand these days. This might as well be my first incarnation at the third density as I may come from 5th or 6th density. Human customs and behaviour I perceive as strange and illogical, especially wars.

If you truly feel that you are a higher density being. Then you should also know that this is one of the density's of battle. What would be the appropriate choice if one was of the light in this realm, to concede in defeat or to fight with all one is? Only you can answer that for yourself.

But i beg to differ that wars and other practices of the humans on the surface of earth are illogical. They are entirely logical if one factors in that a timeless war is ongoing, and after a battle the victors now rule, thus they organize society in a structure that is most appropriate and thus logical for "them."

Those who cannot endure the darkness, will not live to see the light.

 

[ocean59]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

That is because I have always had a feeling of being a "wanderer" and STO and for many years I have undergone a psychic attack which is becoming pretty difficult to stand these days. This might as well be my first incarnation at the third density as I may come from 5th or 6th density. Human customs and behaviour I perceive as strange and illogical, especially wars.

If you truly feel that you are a higher density being. Then you should also know that this is one of the density's of battle. What would be the appropriate choice if one was of the light in this realm, to concede in defeat or to fight with all one is? Only you can answer that for yourself.

I would add that if you believe you are a wanderer, or recently coming from 5th or 6th density, do you not think that you chose to incarnate here at this time in this body? Don't you think there was a reason for that choice, something you came here to do and accomplish maybe?

The most STO thing to do would be to work on becoming the best person you can be, so that you can be in a position to help yourself, and others, remember.

There is no escape from the lessons waiting to be learned - you've just got to keep going, keep learning, keep getting back up and trying again...there is no 'time limit' or 'expiration date' on these lessons, and they never go away, imo.

Also, unless you are able to predict the future, who knows what great things you are capable of, and may have an impact or influence on others. Giving up doesn't help anybody but yourself - and is thus STS. Just a few thoughts, fwiw. It's never too late to change one's mind - about anything.