Who will be moved to the fourth density?

[RflctnOfU]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

Well, for several weeks I have been trying to give out leaflets about the world situation, the content of which I give below, and for several years I have been writing to various forums giving people some food for thought and there has always been little if any interest in the issues I wrote about. So I doubt if my further task here on the Earth could be of any help.

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There are those who will understand, and those - and there are many - who will not. If you see what's been written on SOTT and Cassiopaea over the years, it has helped some - some have understood the main points and begun to strive to see reality more as it is, and to improve themselves, and to live their lives accordingly - but there has been little change on a larger scale.

Yet, the SOTT team, and Laura et al, do not give up. Expecting to change things en masse, really reaching a great many people, is simply not realistic, simply doesn't work, but this really doesn't matter - people differ in their nature, and searching for and caring about truth is simply not for everyone - it is not what everyone "is", what everyone can or will do.

But what really matters is the people who are able to care. Such people can grow in knowledge and awareness and help each other. And in this process, where people learn and share with each other, you can find meaning.

Trying to influence those who do not care is like walking repeatedly into a brick wall; one gets nowhere. So in short, I don't think your "task" in this life is without meaning - I think you've simply mis-estimated it, trying to do what doesn't work, what cannot work, instead of focusing on what can and does work.

I think this can be distilled down to an old quotation: "Food is only appetizing to a man who is hungry"

Kris

 

[A.K.]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

That is because I have always had a feeling of being a "wanderer" and STO and for many years I have undergone a psychic attack which is becoming pretty difficult to stand these days. This might as well be my first incarnation at the third density as I may come from 5th or 6th density. Human customs and behaviour I perceive as strange and illogical, especially wars.

Hi egzopolityka, just to tell you that you are not alone in this struggle to 'fit' into this reality (illusion). I've always question myself over these things as to why this world is so full of contradictions (Morpheus in the matrix movie explained it as the splinter in the mind). Why can't everyone be natural? Through years of stumbling by i've learned alot of things pertaining to this world. In fact i'm not a weirdo or anti-social as to what my ex-friends or acquaintances said about me , it's just that......this world is so different from what i've known (not sure where i've experience/seen it before). At the very least, i'm not crazy as the societal will likely brand me as.

Still i'm very grateful for Laura & counts of good souls getting together and forming this great place where we can commune, exchange ideas and behave as naturally as to our soul structure wants us to be. There are tons of reading materials here. I'm sure you can find them if you do a little search. Just let your heart do the selection and read whatever comes to that moment that you feel the most relaxed.

Lastly, this illusional history of this world is about to end. Why leave the seat when the movie is about to end? You must have paid good ticket to get a seat here so just relax & enjoy the greatest show on earth right now, right till the credits rolls. ;D

 

[Buddy]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

Lastly, this illusional history of this world is about to end. Why leave the seat when the movie is about to end? You must have paid good ticket to get a seat here so just relax & enjoy the greatest show on earth right now, right till the credits rolls. ;D

Well said!

 

[egzopolityka]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

Is this true that as the Wave approaches, human consciousness is unblocked in order that the people can make a choice whether they want to stay in the third density or not? Because otherwise, without a thorough knowledge of the situation, the people would not be able to make that choice and would stay here for ever. I gather the Creation always gives people a chance to remember their true identity (as the Wave approaches) because otherwise it does not make sense, does it?

 

[mkrnhr]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

In an infinite universe, there is no such a thing as "forever" :D
IMHO, the transition to 4D happens for those whose soul has completed its 3D lessons and has chosen its alignment with objectivity or subjectivity in its relationship to the universe. Those souls who do not want yet to go to 4D need another cycle or more to complete their lessons. OSIT

 

[egzopolityka]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

By the way, human souls have already completed all the lessons of the third density, have they not?? Human souls came to the third density from the fourth density STO becoming for a short time period 3rd STO and then 3rd STS. That was a "Fall". So, I suppose, occupying 4th density requires previous lessons at 3rd density, does it not? So what is the need to repeat the third density for?

 

[mkrnhr]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

Hello egzopolityka,
Maybe you can read the Wave series for this issue has been addressed in depth :)

 

[egzopolityka]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

I have already read all "The Wave" articles six times. If I have overlooked this piece of information, tell that for everybody to know.

 

[EmeraldHope]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

I have already read all "The Wave" articles six times. If I have overlooked this piece of information, tell that for everybody to know.

Hint: Perhaps it is"time" to revisit concepts?

 

[Mrs. Peel]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

I have already read all "The Wave" articles six times. If I have overlooked this piece of information, tell that for everybody to know.

"Articles"? I believe you mean books. Or do you? If you've read ALL volumes of the Wave series six times, you really should be telling US this info. ;)

 

[anart]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

egzo, I think the problem is that you are thinking about this linearly and forgetting that there is no time. If we had learned all the lessons of 3D, we would not be here 'right now'. It is true that we are, were, and will be in 3D - and 4D - and 5D, 6D, 7D - because there is no linearity - no time as we know it. But, that concept is almost impossible to grasp with our linear minds. What matters is our perception right now in our current vehicle and the lessons we must learn to grow. There are those that will grow to 4D and those that will grow in 3D -neither is 'better' or 'worse' - both just are.

 

[obyvatel]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

One way to look at it could be that if there has been a fall, then there is possibility of rise. The C's do talk about soul smashing - where there can be recycling back into primal matter. So, at this level there does not seem to be any guarantee that once one has passed through a density level, the only way is to rise and one cannot fall back.
These are perhaps all mental constructs by which we try to make sense of something beyond the grasp of our current awareness. The pragmatic approach would be to accept that we are here and do our best to use this opportunity to grow in knowledge and awareness of the reality that we inhabit currently.

 

[Joe]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

By the way, human souls have already completed all the lessons of the third density, have they not?? Human souls came to the third density from the fourth density STO

That's not what has been stated by the C's and you cannot generalise about humans, because they are many different types and levels of humans. In the theorised linear progression, most humans would have 'graduated' to 3D from 2D.

 

[ocean59]

Re: Who will be moved to the forth density?

By the way, human souls have already completed all the lessons of the third density, have they not?? Human souls came to the third density from the fourth density STO

That's not what has been stated by the C's and you cannot generalise about humans, because they are many different types and levels of humans. In the theorised linear progression, most humans would have 'graduated' to 3D from 2D.

I would also suppose that, regardless of whether we naturally came 'up' to 3D from 2D, or 'chose' to come 'back' from 4D, (5D), 6D - it is still the same end result - here we are in 3D. We are here to learn lessons - maybe for the first time, or maybe we 'came back' to learn some more - it doesn't really matter, because here we are, and learning the lessons set out before us is all there is to do really. osit.

 

[mkrnhr]

FWIW, the question of where we came from is discussed in the 8th volume of the Wave: http://cassiopaea.org/2012/03/24/the-wave-chapter-68-as-above-so-below/

There is this except:

(L) Well, they did say that the Lizards were waiting for the right soul matrix to “step in.” So, we were the right soul matrix and we stepped into these engineered bodies that the Lizards created. That’s what you said. So, how do we reconcile us stepping into these engineered third-density bodies with soul evolution through the vegetative and animal states?

A: If you look more closely at the material, it was not stated that the consciousness levels currently represented by humans and many others “stepped into” anything in particular but PHYSICALITY. Individual consciousness units stepped into different physical forms. Some “stepped” in as humans right off the bat, and some chose otherwise. It is simply that the “choice” to experience physicality in many forms, was simultaneous, though different “units” have participated in different ways at different stages, rather than in a linear progression.

But reading the whole chapter (and the whole book) gives more perspective.