Third_Density_Resident
Jedi Council Member
alex jones and jeff rense
This brings me to quite a lot of documented accounts of people who have lost loved animals and had experiences "from beyond". For example, my mother saw our pet dog appear in our lounge room, who she then touched at the same instant our dog died, even though the actual body was a hundred yards away at the time. My sister was affectionately licked (and bitten) my the materialization of our deceased cat. I also know someone who witnessed his dead horse appear to him not long after the horse's death. There are hundreds of similar after-death accounts of animals returning to their owners, such that they cannot all simply be dismissed. There are whole books devoted to these strange occurrences. People have even had near-death experiences where their pets greeted them. But the more physical types of experiences (such as the one my sister had) suggest that it is often more than just an "imprint" of energy at work.
Now, I know that OPs, according to the C's, experience the Second Death. So this probably explains the above phenomena, or alternatively, the above phenomena make what the C's have said a very real possibility. But this means that before the second death, OPs do have the possibility of experiencing some kind of karma, or "life review" (a component of many NDEs). This could be for the benefit of the greater soul pool that the OP is about to be a part of.
In any case, I do take your point about the ramifications of OPs and psychopaths having no individual soul. It's not a nice thought if they somehow know instinctively that there'll be no karma for them (if indeed there is no karma).
Yes, I have been thinking about this for a bit. And one thing occurred to me: it is very difficult most of the time to tell if someone is an OP. But we know that an OP is someone between 2nd and 3rd Density. Now, if it could be argued that a 2nd Density being survives death, then it could be argued that an OP would survive death also.Laura said:Now, if psychopaths and OPs do not have souls, do not reincarnate, etc, that also means there is no possibility that they will ever "pay for" or balance any karma: they don't HAVE any!
And, since Nature, itself, is not really interested in our personal hurts and miseries, that means that psychopaths can do everything they like, get away with it (if they are smart enough), and there is no "payback," EVER.
Now, think about that for a bit.
This brings me to quite a lot of documented accounts of people who have lost loved animals and had experiences "from beyond". For example, my mother saw our pet dog appear in our lounge room, who she then touched at the same instant our dog died, even though the actual body was a hundred yards away at the time. My sister was affectionately licked (and bitten) my the materialization of our deceased cat. I also know someone who witnessed his dead horse appear to him not long after the horse's death. There are hundreds of similar after-death accounts of animals returning to their owners, such that they cannot all simply be dismissed. There are whole books devoted to these strange occurrences. People have even had near-death experiences where their pets greeted them. But the more physical types of experiences (such as the one my sister had) suggest that it is often more than just an "imprint" of energy at work.
Now, I know that OPs, according to the C's, experience the Second Death. So this probably explains the above phenomena, or alternatively, the above phenomena make what the C's have said a very real possibility. But this means that before the second death, OPs do have the possibility of experiencing some kind of karma, or "life review" (a component of many NDEs). This could be for the benefit of the greater soul pool that the OP is about to be a part of.
The fact that animals and OPs join a "soul pool" means that while they may not have an individual soul, they still have a soul of another kind. Which also lends credence to the dead animal experiences. So I just see it as a little misleading to say that OPs and animals have no souls, when this does not appear to be the case. Perhaps another word should be used for OP soul?Laura said:Oh, sure, from a souled person's point of view, it is a terrible thing that when they die, they are dead and gone and that's that (see also the Bible: Sheol). But from the OP/psychopathic point of view, it doesn't matter. You can't miss what you never had.
In any case, I do take your point about the ramifications of OPs and psychopaths having no individual soul. It's not a nice thought if they somehow know instinctively that there'll be no karma for them (if indeed there is no karma).