Alex Jones - COINTELPRO? Fascist Tool?

[Tina]

Re: Is Alex Jones A Zionist?…Controversy Swirls

Ahhh, more publicity for little Alex. 'Brother Nathanael Kapner' is a full throttle nutter who stands in the median of a highway in the mountains of Colorado preaching and condemning sinners, just for some perspective on the author...

Oh, I see. Well in that case you may want to delete the article. I knew the article sounded over the top, but I wasn't aware of brother Nathaniel's reputation . I was just amused that it was on Rense. Pot calling the kettle Cointelpro and all..

 

[Laura]

Actually, that Rense would publish this is interesting in itself. I've certainly thought a time or two that Jones might be a covert Zionist or a covert Fundie/Dominionist. I think that the latter is more likely, but then, they are in bed together though it's like sleeping with the enemy.

Thanks for bringing this one to our attention! No need to apologize!


Added: I merged this thread with the main Alex Jones thread.

 

[Renaissance]

Alex Jones on the 'Missouri Information Analysis Center' report:

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_qHXmLItYc&feature=ytn%3Amptnews

"When the MIAC report came out, there were all these reports of, you know, house wives saying, 'okay, I'm locking and loading; I guess I'm going to be a terrorist.' You see, it's a self fulfilling prophesy. You tell law abiding, peaceful, nice people that they're bad because they believe in America and freedom and liberty, they're gonna now feel like the police are against them and become enemies of the police. Then you're going to get the police feeling like the people are their enemies and its a self fulfilling prophecy"

Seems Alex is quite disconnected with how a normal person thinks. Reminds me of what Lobaczewski wrote about the schizoids:

Their poor sense of psychological situation and reality leads them to superimpose erroneous, pejorative interpretations upon other people’s intentions. They easily become involved in activities which are ostensibly moral, but which actually inflict damage upon themselves and others. Their impoverished psychological worldview makes them typically pessimistic regarding human nature. We frequently find expressions of their characteristic attitudes in their statements and writings: “Human nature is so bad that order in human society can only be maintained by a strong power created by highly qualified individuals in the name of some higher idea.” Let us call this typical expression the “schizoid declaration”.

Edit: I just saw this article on Alex Jones on the Signs front page: Did Paranoid Right-Wing Media Fuel the Pittsburgh Cop Killer's Rage?

On April 6, two days after the 22-year-old Richard Poplawski allegedly murdered three police officers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a radio host named Alex Jones settled in before a microphone in his studio in Austin, Texas to do some damage control. "The mainstream media has certainly enjoyed tying me into this story," Jones complained. "They're attacking me and saying I'm delusional and there's no New World Order The Second Amendment, what the country's founded on--it's all my fault!"

Since the above youtube clip of Alex Jones show was posted on April 7th, it may have been from the same show the article mentions.

 

[PopHistorian]

Three years ago on this thread there was a discussion of Jones's "address." Someone wrote, "Since the Castle Dental people [the Lamar Blvd. address given for the Alex Jones Show] don't seem to know Alex Jones, his mail must not reach that physical address."

Funny I remembered that all this time later. I just listened to a segment of his April 9 broadcast (here: _http://gcnlive.com/Archives2009/apr09/AlexJones/0409091.mp3) and he explained that he doesn't state the actual location of the studio because people have shown up and camped out, etc. He said the show has a P.O. box now, but he mentioned that his "daddy" used to work at a dental office on Lamar and was taking his mail there, but it got too crazy and he retired the address. I don't know why the issue of address came up in the show, I wasn't paying close attention because I was reading the forum. FWIW. BTW, in this show segment, he said he'll make a chemtrails film after he makes a second Obama film, though I don't know what Jones's particular belief about chemtrails is.

Also, I note he seems to love to build himself up, promotion-wise, by mentioning his own name in the same breath as Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity as if he were as well known, and who would want to be associated with those guys!

 

[Minerva]

Belibaste:

My own personal opinion - based on what I've read so far - is that Alex likely is being used as a foil, but by 4th density STS forces, not by government agencies, and probably not with his conscious collusion. This is in the sense that while he very loudly tries to wake people up to the political and economic machinations of the PTB, he simultaneously inhibits investigation into hyperdimensional possibilities, explaining away all the evidence pointing to that as disinfo spread by those same earthly powers. I don't personally listen to his show or frequent his websites any longer, for exactly that reason. But, at the same time, I do still think that Alex serves a useful function in the overall scheme of things, by getting people to start questioning their reality. I'm a case in point: it was Jones' documentaries and websites that first started me down this path, and while I stalled there for quite a few months I eventually found my way beyond. From what I've read it seems that many others here on this forum have had a similar experience.

This is a good summary of the conclusions I've so far come to about this man.

When it comes to Alex Jones, I do not "throw the baby out with the bathwater". (I do however always chuckle because Alex reminds me of a grown up version of Eric Cartman from SouthPark!).

Lately I have seen an enormous disinfo smear campaign aimed at Jones (it's esp. apparent on myspace). That pathetic article Rense posted is such a piece of disinfo. I've listened to Alex enough to know he does expose a lot of the Zionists, not to mention the fact that his website had endless articles exposing the Israeli war crimes. The negative comments about Jones on forums and blogs had come to such a cresendo lately over this idiocy with Jeff Rense (sleezier than Jones any day in my book) and it's a DISTRACTION from the useful work he does IMHO.

Everyone is "SO CONCERNED" that Jones is a shill and they never question the mind control he's been subjected to (and no one DARES question the hyperdimensional influences on him). I found out recently he is MY AGE!!! (34 or 35, he's like 9 mos older) He looks 45!!! The man is a poster child for adrenal burnout, he's a MESS.

Yes, he's a fear monger. Yes, he's mind controlled. Yes, he's spreading disinfo and whatnot, some of it with best of intentions. Maybe he's truly cointelpro in the malicious sense. Maybe. But for cointelpro he certainly works his buns off to expose the pedophelia in places like the Texas Youth Commission. And frankly, his new Obama movie is pretty good and anyone who drank the "Obama cool aid" will not be able to watch it without major mind control programming being lifted.

So much focus on this man's flaws. I guess I just never cared. I take the info I get from him and scrutinize that instead. I understand people questioning and exposing his flaws and possible outright lies, but the negative focus on this man is beyond the scope of most people in the media. So much time is devoted to it and I think there is more to the Alex Jones bashing than the flawed facts.

 

[Smallwood]

I don't think I've shared my opinion of the man yet. Not that it is a very educated one or different from the rest, but I'll just put it on a record here.

I remember watching his "Martial Law 9/11" and "Terrorstorm"-movies and they had a fair number of things I learned from them. They were pretty good for getting an overall picture of the real "War On Terror", but I remember not being sure of some things or how they were presented. I think I should give them another watch, to give a more up to date opinion.

Similarly to what Joe wrote in his latest piece here, the thing that should most alarm people about AJ is the fact that while he is bright enough to notice all the elite corruption taking place in the USA, he seems oblivious to the very negative effect his stunts and way of reporting have had on the way people perceive truth-seekers. That seems to suggest, at the very innocent end of spectrum, a special form of stupidity and a severe handicap for someone who has taken up the fight for Truth. It seems to me, that his only merit is in telling people the obvious, while rest of the time he does nothing but scare his listeners over the edge of sanity.

I also think everyone should listen to the COINTELPRO-podcasts by Sott sometime if they haven't done so, just to hear WingTV people's experiences with Alex Jones, or at least people connected to him. Definite COINTELPRO-activity is going on in his general direction.

As to do I think he is conscious or not, I can't say. On the other hand it seems easy to imagine how someone could be manipulated to do the kind of things that he does, but then again, it would be easier to achieve the same effect with a conscious and willing dupe who has no loyalty to the truth in the first place. FWIW.

 

[Minerva]

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/181423-Celestial-Esoteric-Stuff-and-The-Socio-Political-Nitty-Gritty

I just got around to reading this and I'm noticing some real factual errors. The first is this:

"Jones' totally ignorant fear-mongering about Obama's plans to establish a "Socialist dictatorship" (which comes complete with a very subtle racism that appeals to white supremacist gun lovers) and the association of Socialism with dictatorship parallels the US government and media's long-term demonisation of Hugo Chavez's Venezuela"

First off, Chavez called Obama "ignorant" the last time I heard.
Anyway, CLEARLY the author of this article has not seen The Obama Deception. How can you call Alex racicist against blacks when some of his most featured interviews in the movie are with some extremely brillilant black man who see through Obama? Watch the film! KRS-One has some brilliant commentary. If Alex is racist what other evidence is there besides his dislike for Obama (and frankly, I do think he's establishing a social dictatorship, look at his wiretapping moves).

While he may not have stated it directly, it is quite clear that his message is that Obama's "socialist dictatorship" must be resisted by US citizens by force of arms.

No, it's clear that RIGHT NOW people in the US have the right to have guns, and if the govt. takes that right away it's historically a bad sign.
It's also clear that the dollar and govt could collapse and families want to protect themselves, esp. if martial law goes into effect. I'm not all pro gun, but I'm telling you what Alex SAYS. I don't agree with the pro gun people entirely, but they do have a point. He knows what happens when a bunch of blackwater goons and police and thugs are the only ones with guns! And his film proves Obama is "cointelpro", which is ironic.

Alex's audience has a lot of ignorant people. Some of his audience was already fear mongering before he came along. To implicate him in this shooter's rampage is abhorable to be frank. He's not telling people to get violent. He's SAID the opposite in his broadcasts many times because he knows he's an angry man and his yelling IS inciteful. However, in case you haven't noticed, the COPS are getting pretty violent lately ALL OVER THE PLACE. People are being man handled and beaten up all the time. When Katrina hit they couldn't get people food and water but they could go door to door and collect guns of people hanging onto their homes? And since when does he associated socialism with dictatorship? I have personally heard Alex say that some countries socialism works for them in many ways. He has stated he doesn't want socialism in the US, that is his politics. So what? Jones is a man with a temper, a lot of stress, a lot of mind control from the whole Texan reality he lives in, and yet in all that I've heard a lot of good in his message. His stressed out rants and raves are not enough to convince me he could be the "cause" of someone's shooting spree.


Whatever, I'm not going to debate gun control or any of it. But I wish the people accusing Alex Jones of such horrors would provide more solid evidence that he's a shill or whatever. Like I said above, the attack cycle on this man is hitting an all time high and I'm SUSPICIOUS about it, especially considering some of the work he's been doing lately (not to mention his websites extensive exposure of the attrocities in Gaza).

Honestly, I don't even see the point in deconstructing the rest of that article and spending more time on it. I think Jones has a lot of problems but wow, that article was really sloppy.

 

[anart]

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/181423-Celestial-Esoteric-Stuff-and-The-Socio-Political-Nitty-Gritty

I just got around to reading this and I'm noticing some real factual errors.

First off, Chavez called Obama "ignorant" the last time I heard.

Why would that be a 'factual error'? Perhaps you didn't understand the point?

Anyway, CLEARLY the author of this article has not seen The Obama Deception. How can you call Alex racicist against blacks when some of his most featured interviews in the movie are with some extremely brillilant black man who see through Obama? Watch the film! KRS-One has some brilliant commentary. If Alex is racist what other evidence is there besides his dislike for Obama (and frankly, I do think he's establishing a social dictatorship, look at his wiretapping moves).

Ahhh, Minerva, your agenda is showing. Not surprising considering your first post on this forum was on this thread, after the referenced article was posted - yet, you've just now 'read it'? Interesting.

No, it's clear that RIGHT NOW people in the US have the right to have guns, and if the govt. takes that right away it's historically a bad sign.

Nope, you missed the point. It appears that Alex isn't pushing having guns, he's pushing using them - a BIG difference.

It's also clear that the dollar and govt could collapse and families want to protect themselves, esp. if martial law goes into effect. I'm not all pro gun, but I'm telling you what Alex SAYS. I don't agree with the pro gun people entirely, but they do have a point. He knows what happens when a bunch of blackwater goons and police and thugs are the only ones with guns! And his film proves Obama is "cointelpro", which is ironic.

Nope, you're attempted point is ironic. You do know what happens when people with small guns go up against people with big guns, don't you? Let me help you out - - it's called slaughter followed by total and complete clamp down.

Alex's audience has a lot of ignorant people. Some of his audience was already fear mongering before he came along.

How did the audience fear monger before he came along?

To implicate him in this shooter's rampage is abhorable to be frank.

The implication was already there - Joe was responding to the knee jerk emotional response of a Jones fan - a response much like yours actually.

He's not telling people to get violent.[/qutoe]

Oh, yes, he most certainly is.

[qutoe=m] He's SAID the opposite in his broadcasts many times because he knows he's an angry man and his yelling IS inciteful. However, in case you haven't noticed, the COPS are getting pretty violent lately ALL OVER THE PLACE. People are being man handled and beaten up all the time. When Katrina hit they couldn't get people food and water but they could go door to door and collect guns of people hanging onto their homes? And since when does he associated socialism with dictatorship? I have personally heard Alex say that some countries socialism works for them in many ways. He has stated he doesn't want socialism in the US, that is his politics. So what? Jones is a man with a temper, a lot of stress, a lot of mind control from the whole Texan reality he lives in, and yet in all that I've heard a lot of good in his message. His stressed out rants and raves are not enough to convince me he could be the "cause" of someone's shooting spree.

Then you missed the point entirely.

Whatever, I'm not going to debate gun control or any of it. But I wish the people accusing Alex Jones of such horrors would provide more solid evidence that he's a shill or whatever. Like I said above, the attack cycle on this man is hitting an all time high and I'm SUSPICIOUS about it, especially considering some of the work he's been doing lately (not to mention his websites extensive exposure of the attrocities in Gaza).

Honestly, I don't even see the point in deconstructing the rest of that article and spending more time on it. I think Jones has a lot of problems but wow, that article was really sloppy.

No, actually, it wasn't at all sloppy. It was factual and to the point. However, when one is so emotionally invested in their own ideas that they cannot even begin to see the truth of the matter, the cognitive dissonance that is created when confronted with the truth can often result in the feeling that something is 'sloppy' or 'wrong' or 'not worth taking the time over'.

So - perhaps - you might want to do a bit more research into COINTELPRO and exactly how it works before coming to this forum with such a blatant agenda.

 

[Minerva]

Anart your reply is awfully hostile, and check your facts my first post was NOT on this thread!
No, clearly you do not understand where I'm coming from. WHAT AGENDA? I came here cause I like this forum. However, I disagree with you about Jones. And yes, I just read the article FULLY, I just go the time and patience to do so and pick over it. I only commented on this thread before based upon another comment I noticed that resonated. In fact, I hadn't planned on making any posts yet but the Alex Jones issue has been on my mind since the Rense thing happened. I've been meaning to blog on it actually, but the issue just isn't that pressing.

I DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT JONES AND GUNS. CAN YOU HANDLE THAT or do you HAVE to act like I have some "AGENDA"??? Cause I don't, and I do not have to post here in the future if you people don't want me to, it would be your loss since I can read all I want.

Nope, you missed the point. Alex isn't pushing having guns, he's pushing using them - a BIG difference.

Please CITE exactly where he does this. Even the article said he doesn't say it blatantly. This is your opinion and I disagree based upon the hours I've LISTENED to Jones.

Nope, you're attempted point is ironic. You do know what happens when people with small guns go up against people with big guns, don't you? Let me help you out - - it's called slaughter followed by total and complete clamp down.

Um yes, actually, DID I NOT SAY I DO NOT COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE PRO GUN PEOPLE who think having guns is going to protect them? However, if there were riots going on I might want a gun and I understand these people and their reasoning even if it is short sighted. I also understand Jones being concerned about the gun control push. He didn't start the resistance to it and he's not alone. Americans are ON EDGE for good reason and now is not the time to say "we're disarming you as well". That's my opinion. Most people who have guns will never use them, even if martial law happened.

It was factual and to the point. However, when one is so emotionally invested in their own ideas that they cannot even begin to see the truth of the matter, the cognitive dissonance that is created when confronted with the truth can often result in the feeling that something is 'sloppy' or 'wrong' or 'not worth taking the time over'.

Factual? Calling someone racist is factual? Saying he incited and plans to incite violence? Are you sure that is proven fact?

What's truly ironic is to act like I'm emotionally invested in Alex Jones, esp. considering I have some huge problems with his philosophy. But I am floored at the stuff people are throwing around about the man that is blatantly false or skewed facts, or baseless accusations. And I do not want to spend all night disecting an article that has such a slant. What is that article trying to accomplish? To get people to not read Jones site or to get them to not watch his movies?

And then your final words...telling me to go research COINTELPRO in an arrogant tone as if I just fell off the turnip truck?

This article slamming Jones reeks of COINTELPRO, and that concerns me. And then to get slammed with "agenda" energy as soon as I have a dissenting opinion based upon my experiences. Sorry I won't be posting here again until I do further research into what SOTT is all about as well as the rest of the materials.

*FYI* I've been on a lot of forums and intelligent debate often gets mistaken for some agenda. But I just got here, and I'm making some valid points and asking some valid questions, so the rudeness is unappreciated. Perhaps I could have really added some valuable info and insights to this forum but frankly this really turns me off.
Over Jones too, the big wanker. I hope he IS cointelpro and you aren't wasting your time bashing a man who is at least warning people that Obama is OWNED.

PS: Are the C's pro Obama???

 

[anart]

Anart your reply is awfully hostile, and check your facts my first post was NOT on this thread!

I stand corrected, your intro post was made thirty minutes before the post in this thread - and it stated that you've read Laura's material for years.  Yet, as that intro thread continued, what you wrote seems to indicate that this might not be the case.  That certainly doesn't prove anything at all  - but your posts in this thread certainly do indicate much, much more.

No, clearly you do not understand where I'm coming from.  WHAT AGENDA?  I came here cause I like this forum.  However, I disagree with you about Jones.  And yes, I just read the article FULLY, I just go the time and patience to do so and pick over it.  I only commented on this thread before based upon another comment I noticed that resonated.  In fact, I hadn't planned on making any posts yet but the Alex Jones issue has been on my mind since the Rense thing happened.  I've been meaning to blog on it actually, but the issue just isn't that pressing.

I DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT JONES AND GUNS.  CAN YOU HANDLE THAT or do you HAVE to act like I have some "AGENDA"???  Cause I don't, and I do not have to post here in the future if you people don't want me to, it would be your loss since I can read all I want.

'Screaming' in your post would indicate otherwise.  I'm not sure what you mean by you can read all you want? 

Please CITE exactly where he does this.  Even the article said he doesn't say it blatantly.  This is your opinion and I disagree based upon the hours I've LISTENED to Jones.

The point is the line of force behind the words.  Certainly you can understand the implication?

Um yes, actually, DID I NOT SAY I DO NOT COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE PRO GUN PEOPLE who think having guns is going to protect them?  However, if there were riots going on I might want a gun and I understand these people and their reasoning even if it is short sighted.  I also understand Jones being concerned about the gun control push.  He didn't start the resistance to it and he's not alone.  Americans are ON EDGE for good reason and now is not the time to say "we're disarming you as well".  That's my opinion.  Most people who have guns will never use them, even if martial law happened. 

How many hours have you spent listening to Jones?

Factual?  Calling someone racist is factual?  Saying he incited and plans to incite violence?  Are you sure that is proven fact?

What's truly ironic is to act like I'm emotionally invested in Alex Jones, esp. considering I have some huge problems with his philosophy.

Please re-read your posts in this thread and then try to explain to this forum that you are not emotionally invested.

  But I am floored at the stuff people are throwing around about the man that is blatantly false or skewed facts, or baseless accusations.  And I do not want to spend all night disecting an article that has such a slant.   What is that article trying to accomplish?  To get people to not read Jones site or to get them to not watch his movies? 

No, I think it's simply trying to accomplish one thing - encouraging people's critical faculties over their emotions.

And then your final words...telling me to go research COINTELPRO in an arrogant tone as if I just fell off the turnip truck?

Well, considering your input here, it was apparent that you are unfamiliar with the core of how COINTELPRO works. 

This article slamming Jones reeks of COINTELPRO, and that concerns me.  And then to get slammed with "agenda" energy as soon as I have a dissenting opinion based upon my experiences.   Sorry I won't be posting here again until I do further research into what SOTT is all about as well as the rest of the materials.

I think that's a great idea.  You see, timing is actually quite important.  Joe's article was posted - you arrived on the forum and posted an intro post stating how much you liked the forum and have read SoTT and Laura for years.  Thirty minutes or so later, your second post in on this thread, subtly supporting Jones.  And, fascinatingly enough, now you state that you will be doing further research into what SoTT is about.  Hmmm - something just sticks out like a sore thumb there, doesn't it?

*FYI* I've been on a lot of forums and intelligent debate often gets mistaken for some agenda.  But I just got here, and I'm making some valid points and asking some valid questions, so the rudeness is unappreciated.

Nope, no rudeness, just the truth.  And, you've not asked valid questions or made valid points - you've spoken as an emotionally invested fan - and nothing more.

   Perhaps I could have really added some valuable info and insights to this forum but frankly this really turns me off. 

Yes, I'm sure it's frustrating to be confronted with the truth when one is invested in the contrary.

Over Jones too, the big wanker.      I hope he IS cointelpro and you aren't wasting your time bashing a man who is at least warning people that Obama is OWNED. 

You really don't read SoTT at all, do you?  The truth about Obama has been published on SoTT for quite some time - and I mean since he appeared on the scene.

PS:  Are the C's pro Obama??? 

Pity you couldn't hold up your mask at least long enough to find out exactly what it is we discuss here, so as to be more convincing.

But - alas - we've seen it before and we'll see it again... enjoy wherever your 'journey' takes you next, since this forum is clearly not for you.

 

[kenlee]

I DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT JONES AND GUNS. CAN YOU HANDLE THAT or do you HAVE to act like I have some "AGENDA"??? Cause I don't, and I do not have to post here in the future if you people don't want me to, it would be your loss since I can read all I want.

Clearly you are identified With Alex Jones's 'zeal' and this is what he wants. This zeal will bypass the critical faculties of the mind and lead people to projecting themselves onto others. There are, in my view, two Jones. There's the rational Jones and there is the rant Jones. As things heat up you’ll be seeing a lot more of the rant Jones. Mix these rants with an audience that identifies with his philosophy which is basically "use guns if you have them" and you’ll see a bunch of reaction machines who will take their paranoid reactions as 'normal’. At this point Jones’s rants will appeal to the ‘Imaginary I’ or the false personality of his listeners, increasing their paranoia and thereby disconnecting their false self from their real self (where there is conscience). He’s creating 'reactionary robots,' devoid or separated from their conscience and who are awaiting to be further programmed by someone with authority.

 

[vinny]

well this thread only casts more light on how the mechanisms of COINTELPRO work - by making people emotionally invested into a particular line of thought, so that it becomes impossible for them to consider any alternatives - a kind of mental 'tunnel vision', which therefore makes them extremely vulnerable to vectoring. Sadly, this has been seen many times, always with devastating consequences.

This is also the essence of the mechanism described in Political Ponerology whereby a 'trojan ideology' is used, that people become inescapably hooked onto, that can then be steered wherever the manipulator desires, without any risk of being detected. If only people would learn about how this dynamic works, they may have a chance to become immune to it - of course the cost of that is that one has to become personally responsible for one's own destiny (how much easier to buy into a ready-packaged solution that seems to offer all the solutions, and do all the hard work for you). Until that point, it will continue to be the psychopath's extremely effective mode of operation for controlling mankind.

As Anart's signature says: "People will do anything, no matter how absurd, to stop from facing their souls."

 

[Smallwood]

I was strolling through YouTube one day and before I realized it, I had come across Alex Jones's channel. Well, I thought it might be a good idea to watch a few random videos there and so I did. I didn't come up with much, but I did pick up one thing from all the verbal barrage, which I had heard him mention previously here _http://hulkjonesvsnwocheney.ytmnd.com/, towards the end. What is relevant from that salvo of nonsense he spouts is this: "... but don't think they won't pull the "H"-card out", setting nukes... (and so on, hard to tell what the rest is he says because of the background music)".

As I was listening to clips from his radio show on YT, I heard something to the same effect here _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ucPL-Etv8k&feature=channel_page (starts from approximately 7:20):

The caller: And finally, when we have everybody on our side, what, is it gonna be violent revolution or nonviolent...? AJ: Probably, because the globalists are gonna get violent trying to stop us

I am not very familiar with Alex Jones, outside the couple of his films. Frankly, I find that I do get very distressed often when listening to his stuff and knowing his twists on certain issues I do try to avoid him as a news source. So, I don't know whether he very widely or loudly claims that this is what he thinks the revolution is going to be like, violence to the extent of using WMDs on Powers That Be's part. Now, even as I don't follow him that closely, it is just obvious to me that he is using fear tactics when he says things like this, even if he says it only here and there. It is not a question of to which limits psychos in power are willing to use violence in order to control us or fight us, come "revolution". It is just horribly grotesque of anyone "Truther" to paint such unnecessary images of doom. Is he saying that if it comes to violence that common people have ANY chance of resisting the onslaught??? Taking in all that I know of him (which is limited, yes), I can't but wonder about what kind of people actually see him as a positive force in counterculture. When I was 15-16 and getting to know his stuff somewhat, THEN he did seem like a honest person even if seemingly on the edge of mental breakdown. Now, he has been on that edge of mental breakdown for years, and I just have to wonder... does he intend the same for his listeners? If it hasn't already come, for me this is the last straw when it comes to him. Going by what I know about Machiavellian strategists in general and the way he acts and talks I'm not giving him any more benefit of doubt.

I would like to hear from those who have heard/seen more of his stuff that what actually does he portray the "endgame" is going to be like? How does he "paint that image"? Any more similar allusions to the weapons of mass destruction in particular? And if you happen to have any links to such articles, movies or whatever, please do post them here. I think for the sake of those intelligent enough who are still on the edge when it comes to him it would be highly beneficial if we could dispel some of the myth about his real intentions. I'm now going to watch "The Endgame" for some info on that and I don't expect to come up with much (for some reason, I think grade-A fearmongering is the stuff he'll leave hidden into his haystack of radio broadcasts...).

I think I'm also going to pay closer attention to him from now on. I think I'll even subscribe to his channel.

 

[anart]

Hi Smallwood, considering the length of this thread and the copious amount of discussion already conducted on this topic, I'm wondering if you've read the thread in its entirety?

I would like to hear from those who have heard/seen more of his stuff that what actually does he portray the "endgame" is going to be like? How does he "paint that image"? Any more similar allusions to the weapons of mass destruction in particular? And if you happen to have any links to such articles, movies or whatever, please do post them here.

Unless Jones makes a 180 degree turn in intent and execution, I can't see the benefit of posting even more Alex Jones material on this forum. If, on the other hand, his behavior changes, then that would be more data to consider.

 

[Smallwood]

Yes... I have been turning a blind eye, seeing the colossal length of this thread. I'll certainly be reading it in entirety as soon as I can. That even though I still get red spots all over my body as a reaction to even hearing his name