Alton Towers, Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians

Hmmm... I think this also points to or may be part of the "messaging system" of these societies. Some of it is completely visual. The other, in text, but appealing to the reader's imagination. But both point to the same place.
Yes, I think you may be right. Before the printing press really took off in the 16th Century, art would have been one of the main ways of communicating hidden messages without drawing attention to one self. That being said, most of these great works of art may be on public display in art museums and collections today, but when they were first painted, they were intended for the private collections of noblemen. Hence, they would have been seen by a fairly limited audience.

I think novels would take over the main role of conveying esoteric information to the cognoscenti by the 18th Century. It is worth comparing the 19th Century English Rosicrucian novelist Edward Bulwer-Lytton (who, unlike Verne, was a front rank statesman too) with Jules Verne who in many ways was his French Rosicrucian counterpart, although Verne specialised more in fantastic adventures or science fiction. However, both men wrote an adventure involving the inner earth. Verne's Journey to the Centre of the Earth came first in 1864, followed by Bulwer-Lytton's Vril, the Power of the Coming Race in 1871 (which was originally published anonymously). This makes one wonder just what these men may have known about the 'Nation of the Third Eye'. For example, in Bulwer-Lytton's novel, the hero discovers that these beings, who call themselves Vril-ya, have great telepathic and other parapsychological abilities, such as being able to transmit information, get rid of pain, and put others to sleep. You should keep these telepathic powers of the Vril-ya in mind when considering the C's remarks on Thor's Pantheum as set out below.

More worryingly, Bulwer-Lytton's fictional work Vril, the Power of the Coming Race would be taken very seriously by groups in Germany, including no doubt people who would subsequently help to found the Thule Society before and during the First World War, which may be viewed as the midwife of the Nazi Party. For these putative links see: Vril - Wikipedia. Whether true or not, let us not forget that the C's have confirmed that a substantial group of Nazis joined the inner earth or subterranean society towards the end of the Second World War via bases in Antarctica.

Quoting from Wikipedia:

"Some theosophists, notably Helena Blavatsky, William Scott-Elliot, and Rudolf Steiner, accepted Bulwer-Lytton's novel as based on occult truth, in part. Indeed recent research has shown that Bulwer-Lytton developed his ideas about "Vril" against the background of his long preoccupation with occult natural forces, which were widely discussed at that time, especially in relation to animal magnetism or, later, spiritualism.

Bulwer-Lytton has been regarded as an "initiate" or "adept" by esotericists, especially because of his Roscicrucian themed novel Zanoni (1842). However, there is no historical evidence that suggests that Bulwer-Lytton can be seen as an occultist, or that he has been the member of any kind of esoteric association. Instead, it has been shown that Bulwer-Lytton has been "esotericized" since the 1870s. In 1870, the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia appointed Bulwer-Lytton as its "Grand Patron." Although Bulwer-Lytton complained about this by letter in 1872, the claim has never been revoked. Those claims, as well as the recurrent esoteric topics in Bulwer-Lytton's works, convinced some commentators that the fictionalised Vril was based on a real magical force."


Suffice to say though that Rosicrucians have historically never come out and admitted their membership of the Rosicrucian fraternity. Unlike the Freemasons, they do not keep membership lists. Hence, the Rosicrucians can truly be said to be an invisible society. Thus, Bulwer-Lytton's denial of being a Rosicrucian does not really mean much.

However, with the advent of moving film in the late 19th Century and subsequently television in the 1930's, I believe the main medium for conveying esoteric messages is now films and television programmes. Anyone who is familiar with this Forum will know of numerous examples where movies and TV programmes have quietly pushed messages to influence people's thinking. As I have pointed out on this thread before, Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, was a modern day Rosicrucian and the C's made it clear that he used his Star Trek series to influence its viewers:
Q: (T) There's more to all of this...were you referring to... Who are they? Thor's Pantheum. And they're subselect trainees...That's the group behind this movie; OK...

A: An army of Aryan psychic projectors.

Q: (T) Well, that explains a lot more than Thor's Pantheum of subselect trainees! An army of psychic projectors. (L) And what do they project?

A: Themselves... Right in to one's head.

Q: (T) Into one's head... this is better than 'Must See TV!' (L) Project right into one's head... is anybody subject to this projecting?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, when they project themselves right into someone's head, what does that someone perceive?

A: Inspiration.

Q: (L) Inspiration to what, or to do what?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Yes? To do what, to do something?

A: And...

Q: (L) To do something, and to understand or perceive something, is that it?

A: Yes.

Q: (J) To believe something? (L) Yes. So, how many are in this army?

A: 1.6 million.

Q: (L) When they're doing this projecting into someone's head, where are they projecting from?

A: Mostly subterranean.

Q: (L) Subterranean, so these are the people of the tunnels, the underground bases and all that sort of thing. Are they 3rd or 4th density beings?

A: Both.

Q: (T) Let me back up to a question here. If they can do all this projecting on their own, what was the point of the movie?

A: No, you misunderstand... This is an intense activity, directed towards influencing the high level creative forces.

Q: (T) Projected against? Because this movie, if you've been following the reviews and the people talking about it, this movie has had more repeat business than any movie in years and years and years and years. People have seen it ten and twenty times! (L) Was there something subliminal in the movie? That opened something? (J) That's a good question!

A: Sure.

Q: (L) And was this subliminal activity with the movie designed to create an opening for this further...

A: Not for you, but for others.

Q: (L) Why? Do you mean me, personally, or us as a group? (T) Well the movie didn't affect me.

A: Group.

Q: (L) What made us immune?

A: You already have the knowledge.

Q: (T) The movie wasn't meant for us; we already know. The movie was meant for all of those who don't understand.

A: Say hello to Gene Roddenberry.

Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry present?

A: No.

Q: (L) In other words, say hello to him because he was doing that sort of thing a long time ago?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is Gene Roddenberry one of these people from Thor's Pantheon...

A: No.

Q: (L) Why did you bring up Gene Roddenberry? (J) Because he was doing it in Star Trek?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) He was doing a whole different thing with Star Trek... (L) Well, let’s not get too far off track...

A: It's not the exact "Slant," it's "the concept, stupid."


Star Trek would be followed by the Star Wars movies and together with the BBC's long running Doctor Who TV series (first broadcast in November 1963) about a time travelling advanced alien, these three science fiction franchises today have huge world-wide cult followings, which span at least three generations. They have permeated and influenced the thinking of their fans making the idea of aliens, faster than light space travel and time travel seem common place. And, of course, there have been several other movies and TV series which have sought to do the same including Independence Day, which was the movie that sparked the discussion in the extract from the transcripts shown above. I appreciate that there has been discussion of an alien disclosure or possible mass arrival in the latest session with the C's but I would ask whether the realisation of there actually being other intelligent life in the universe will be such a shock (as forewarned by the Brookings Report commissioned by NASA in 1960, whose full title was Proposed Studies on the Implications of Peaceful Space Activities for Human Affairs) to this generation as it would have been to generations born before the 1960's who were not brought up on shows and movies like Star Trek, Doctor Who and Star Wars etc.

However, the C's also spoke of the members of Thor's Pantheum being "trainees for the transfer of enlightenment frequency graduation":
Q: (L) And what is Thor's Pantheum?

A: Subselect trainees for transfer of enlightenment frequency graduation.

Q: (L) What is enlightenment frequency graduation?

A: Think!
[MJF: This evidently relates to an awakening, or a personal enlightenment, regarding the higher densities that will occur on or before the realm border crossing]

Q: (L) Enlightenment frequency graduation... so, subselect trainees...

A: Self explanatory.


You will also note that the C's say that this large army of Aryan psychic projectors is mostly subterranean. This suggests that some of their operatives are acting on the surface too. I have suggested that an author like Jules Verne may not have required such psychic projecting to inspire his writings since he was a Rosicrucian and may therefore have been in on the plan, given that I suspect there is a link and ongoing contacts between the Rosicrucians, the enclave of alchemists and the Nation of the Third Eye. The same may be true of Gene Roddenberry since the C's say he was not a member of Thor's Pantheum and, as I have proposed on this thread, he may have got some of his ideas for the Star Trek franchise from his participation in the 'Council of Nine' channellings (although he only participated in these sessions during the years 1974 and 1975, which was five or six years after the cancellation of the original Star Trek TV series). However, I cannot know that this is the case for sure.
For more see The Council of Nine

It is curious that the C's should call the group 'Thor's Pantheum', Thor being the Norse god of thunder and the son of the Norse chief god Odin (also known to the Germanic peoples as Wōden). Whether this was to highlight the Aryan connection of the subterranean society I don't know. Moreover, I wonder if the word "Pantheum" should have read as "Pantheon", because I am not aware of the former term in any English dictionary. The word, pantheon derives from Greek πάνθεον pantheon, literally "(a temple) of all gods", "of or common to all gods" from πᾶν pan- "all" and θεός theos "god". A pantheon is therefore the particular set of all the gods of any individual polytheistic religion, mythology or tradition and the nature of a society's pantheon can be considered a reflection of that society. The C's have said that various ancient deities including Zeus, Yahweh, Arjuna and Quetzalcoatl the Aztec deity were all divine personas that were in reality fronts for the Lizard beings. Perhaps the same can be said for Thor and Odin?​
 
You will also note that the C's say that this large army of Aryan psychic projectors is mostly subterranean. This suggests that some of their operatives are acting on the surface too. I have suggested that an author like Jules Verne may not have required such psychic projecting to inspire his writings since he was a Rosicrucian and may therefore have been in on the plan, given that I suspect there is a link and ongoing contacts between the Rosicrucians, the enclave of alchemists and the Nation of the Third Eye. The same may be true of Gene Roddenberry since the C's say he was not a member of Thor's Pantheum and, as I have proposed on this thread, he may have got some of his ideas for the Star Trek franchise from his participation in the 'Council of Nine' channellings
Might this phenomena explain what “inspires” activities such as peoples’ decisions surrounding the recent Ohio tragedy and the writings of DeLillo in “White Noise” that mirrors it? Perhaps such “inspiration” towards certain outcomes, both fictional and real, implicit or explicit orders, follow a direction, or pattern that might be decipherable?
 
Although I am still working on my Rosicrucians and America article, I came across this very interesting article on Nicolas Poussin’s paintings by Josh Kroeker, which I would like to share with you.

See: Andrew Gough's Arcadia

On this thread and elsewhere, Forum members have discovered curious hidden objects (e.g., skulls, chalices etc.) in Poussin’s works, which may help to shed light on the real mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau. Indeed, it may be useful for an Administrator to take all these Poussin posts and put them into a new Poussin thread where others can post their own ideas on these findings. However, Josh Kroeker’s article (which I found via the researcher Andrew Gough’s website) focuses primarily on the mountains depicted in Poussin’s painting. His observations put me in mind of something the C’s once said about the Rennes-le-Chateau mystery:

A: Just look. Now folks, remember: Rennes-le-Chateau is a means, not an end. Sort of like unlocking the trunk, expecting to find the gold, and merely finding a map.

For those of you of a more scientific leaning or bent, I would direct you particularly to footnote 1 of the article, where Professor Christopher Cornford, an art expert, confirms that Poussin employed an older, ‘masonic geometric’ structure that used pentagonal geometry rather than the more customary arithmetic subdivisions of the rectangle that other artists of the period used when painting his The Shepherds of Arcadia. This observation may be highly suggestive since Poussin is suspected of being a Freemason and/or a Rosiccrucian who concealed esoteric knowledge in his works to be discovered by those who were in the know. It is also worth recalling that Poussin learned the art of perspective from the great German Jesuit scholar and polymath Athanasius Kircher who some credit with inventing the magic lantern (even if he didn’t invent it, his findings may have paved the way for its invention). Correct me if I am wrong here, but one Forum member came up with some astonishing hidden perspectives in both The Shepherds of Arcadia and another famous painting of Poussin’s known variously as Winter or the Deluge by focusing on the rectangular division method. Perhaps that member, when reading this, could apply his techniques to the other paintings of Poussin shown in Kroeker’s article to see what they may yield. However, it is important to note that pentagonal geometry can create a link to higher spatial dimensions, as hinted at by the C’s (see my comments on the footnote). So, using this technique, who knows what else Poussin may have hidden in his works.

It is also interesting to note who these other paintings were commissioned for. Two of them were for the infamous Cardinal Richelieu of France (who was chief minister to King Louis XIII of France) and another was commissioned for Archduke Leopold Wilhelm of Austria a member of the Habsburg royal family, from whose ranks the Holy Roman Emperor was drawn. Hence, as you can see, Poussin had very high-profile clients. Let us also recall here how desperate King Louis XIV of France was to lay his hands on Poussin’s The Shepherds of Arcadia. When he finally managed to acquire it, he hid it away in his royal chambers where it could be viewed only with the King’s express consent.


Poussin’s Mountainous Mystery

By Josh Kroeker

When examining the mystery of Rennes-le-Château, it is difficult to ignore the apparent significance of Nicolas Poussin’s enigmatic painting, Shepherds of Arcadia (1638-40), sometimes known as Et in Arcadia Ego (and which I will refer to simply as Arcadia). The discovery of underlying geometric designs in the painting [1], and the conclusion that the landscape portrayed could, in fact, be a location near Rennes-le-Château [2], lend credence to the belief that important information may be encoded in the painting. This, along with the reference to Poussin in one of the parchments discovered by the priest, Bérenger Saunière, in his church in the south of France, suggests that Poussin was intrinsically tied to a mystery.

In 1886 Saunière began to restore his dilapidated church in the small village of Rennes-le-Château, in the Languedoc region of south-western France, an area which had been occupied by the Visigoths, the Cathars and the Knights Templar. While conducting his renovations Saunière discovered that one of the ancient pillars in the church contained a hollow compartment with unusual documents inside; excerpts from the Bible, encoded with obscure messages. Having realised that he may have discovered ancient texts of considerable importance, Saunière travelled to Paris to seek the assistance of Catholic officials. When he returned to Rennes-le-Château he used his new-found wealth to complete the renovation of his church and village, and built a tower dedicated to Mary Magdalene. He also bestowed lavish gifts on the inhabitants of the village. In just one year the village priest had gone from honouring his vows of poverty to becoming a generous benefactor. Just what had he discovered?

Henry Lincoln began investigating the legends of the region, such as Saunière’s mysterious wealth, in the late 1960’s and produced documentaries on the subject for the BBC. This led him to co-author the bestseller, Holy Blood, Holy Grail (1982), which Dan Brown used as the source for his novel and subsequent movie, The Da Vinci Code (2003). During his research Lincoln was led to a hidden message, encrypted in the parchments discovered by Saunière decades earlier. The process of decoding this message was extremely complicated and focused on letters placed in the text of the parchments, which did not appear in the Biblical passages. The encryption followed a series of steps, using key words, to create the following riddle:​

BERGERE PAS DE TENTATION QUE POUSSIN TENIERS GARDENT LA CLEF PAX DCLXXXI PAR LA CROIX ET CE CHEVAL DE DIEU J’ACHEVE CE DAEMON DE GARDIEN A MIDI POMMES BLEUES

SHEPHERDESS NO TEMPTATION THAT POUSSIN TENIERS HOLD THE KEY PEACE 681 BY THE CROSS AND THIS HORSE OF GOD I COMPLETE [or I DESTROY] THIS DAEMON GUARDIAN AT MIDDAY BLUE APPLES

While the full meaning of this riddle has never been clear, its reference to Poussin and the word ‘shepherdess’ have led many researchers to study the painting, Shepherds of Arcadia, which features the image of a shepherdess, along with others gathered around a tomb, in the hope of finding answers to the mystery.

The reference to Poussin is intriguing, and when examined in conjunction with the puzzling letter sent by Abbé Louis Fouquet to his brother, Nicolas Fouquet, Superintendent of Finances to King Louis XIV, the mystery deepens. Abbé Fouquet, who had just visited Poussin in Rome, wrote a letter indicating that Poussin was in possession of a great secret:​

‘He and I discussed certain things, which I shall with ease be able to explain to you in detail – things that will give you, through Monsieur Poussin, advantages which even kings would have great pains to draw from him, and which, according to him, it is possible that nobody else will ever be able to rediscover in the centuries to come. And, what is more, these are things so difficult to discover that nothing now on this earth can prove of better fortune nor be their equal.’
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Nicolas Poussin, Shepherds of Arcadia, Musée du Louvre, Paris
While the contents of Fouquet’s letter are well known to Rennes-le-Château enthusiasts, the riddle has yet to be solved. Nevertheless, Arcadia remains the most popular candidate to conceal the secret, while Poussin’s other works receive considerably less attention. However, it is in Poussin’s other works that we see pieces of an elaborate puzzle and the linking of five of his other paintings to Arcadia, and thus to the mystery of Rennes-le-Château.

As we proceed in our deconstruction of the linked paintings, we will assume that any demonstrable connection to Arcadia indicates that the painting in question is also significant. With this approach, we can we see how elaborately Poussin encoded his secret; the technological advances of the past century have enabled insight that would have been virtually impossible in the 1600’s.
The Mountains of Arcadia

I began my research into the mystery of Rennes-le-Château in 2004. Although I was only sixteen at the time, I was amazed that a mystery so intriguing even existed and was determined to learn everything I could about it. I began looking at the works of Nicolas Poussin and David Teniers, in order to gain a perspective into their art that might help me find clues in Arcadia. While looking through Poussin’s paintings from the mid-1630’s, I noticed a familiar shape in the background of the Triumph of Pan (1635-37). In the top left of the painting, partially covered by trees, is the shape of the main mountain in Arcadia.

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Nicolas Poussin, Triumph of Pan, National Gallery, London
Close-up of the mountain in Arcadia and Triumph of Pan
I was excited about the similarity, but still wary that it could be a coincidence. However, it only took a few minutes to discover that the other half of the mountain appeared in the background of another painting, the Nurture of Jupiter (1636), which was painted around the same time as the Triumph of Pan.

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Nicolas Poussin, Nurture of Jupiter, Dulwich Picture Gallery, London
I now had two distinct works that appeared to contain links to the Arcadia painting, and my next step was to identify any connections between the two. Astonishingly, I discovered that, side by side, the two paintings fitted together, as if pieces of a puzzle, forming a complete mountain in almost the exact shape as the one in the background of Arcadia.

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Close-up, showing the similarities between the ‘complete’ mountain (left) and the mountain in Arcadia
With this insight I was able to conclude that the mountain was, in fact, significant to the mystery. At the same time, I had no idea what it meant. The only thing that was clear was that it could hardly be considered a coincidence, and that Poussin had intentionally placed the mountain in three different paintings. It was not until a year later, while featuring Rennes-le-Château in a report for another project that I discovered the next two pieces of the puzzle.

My research encouraged me to look further into Poussin’s other paintings to try and find the other background features from Arcadia, which do not appear in the Nurture of Jupiter or Triumph of Pan. My process remained the same: search for features in the landscapes that corresponded with those in Arcadia and then join them together and look for further clues. With this approach I discovered that, when added to the right side of Triumph of Pan, the Sacrament of Baptism (1642) matched up, and when added to the left of Nurture of Jupiter, St John Baptising in the River Jordan (1630’s) completed the landscape from Poussin’s Arcadia.

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Nicolas Poussin, St John Baptising in the River Jordan, J. Paul Getty Museum, Los Angeles
Close-up of Arcadia and St John Baptising in the River Jordan
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Nicolas Poussin, Sacrament of Baptism, National Gallery of Art, Washington
Close-up of the mountains in Arcadia and Sacrament of Baptism
Operating under the assumption that the Arcadia painting is special and rather important, the four connected paintings must be examined with equal scrutiny, in order to determine what clues they may hold and how they might help form Poussin’s piece of the ‘key’.
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The complete landscape of Arcadia, reproduced by juxtaposing four other paintings by Poussin
Before examining the connections with other Poussin paintings, let us look at the facts that can be derived from this discovery:

Poussin went to great lengths to create an elaborate landscape background, through four different paintings over at least a seven-year time period; a feat that would have required great planning and execution. Poussin knew that for anyone to be aware of this connection, all four paintings had to be brought together; an unlikely scenario, unless someone was looking for them specifically. Even today, all four paintings are spread across the globe. It is only as a result of today’s advanced photographic methods, and the use of the internet, that Poussin’s works can now be viewed side by side. This is a concept that would have been inconceivable to Abbé Fouquet, who wrote that it is possible no-one would discover what Poussin had hidden in his art.

I can only speculate about the connections in the paintings and what they mean. If the background is an actual landscape near Rennes-le-Château, is Poussin drawing us a map, with clues as to how to get there? Or is his objective simply to draw attention to the shape of this mountain, so that it can be identified elsewhere? After all, Poussin ‘holds the key’ to finding whatever is concealed; but does this mean that it is in his works that the riddles of the Rennes-le-Château mystery can be solved? One thing is certain: Poussin’s depiction of the landscape in Arcadia and the four other connected paintings is intentional and warrants further attention.​

Expanding the Poussin Mystery

So, what is contained in the connected paintings that stand out as significant? It appears that Poussin has left clues, but what message is he trying to convey? I noticed that there was a seven-year gap between Poussin’s Sacrament of Baptism and the other three paintings. Whilst studying when, and for whom, these works were painted, I noticed another painting that appeared connected; however, this was not an additional piece of Poussin’s puzzle, but rather a replacement for one already in place.

First, let us look at the history of Triumph of Pan. It was commissioned by Cardinal Richelieu in the mid 1630’s, along with two other paintings, Triumph of Bacchus (1635-36) and Triumph of Silenus (1637). It is now accepted that the existing Triumph of Silenus is but a copy of the lost original. However, Triumph of Bacchus is held in the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art in Kansas and would have been kept with the other two paintings in Richelieu’s Cabinet de la Chambre du Roy. Taking a closer look at Triumph of Bacchus, we can see that the shape of a mountain appears in the background, similar to that found in Arcadia and Sacrament of Baptism.
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Nicolas Poussin, Triumph of Bacchus, Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art, Kansas City

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Comparison of the mountains in Triumph of Bacchus, Arcadia and Sacrament of Baptism
Although the shape is similar to the mountain in Arcadia, this alone was insufficient evidence for me to accept that they were one and the same. However, when reviewing Triumph of Bacchus, I noticed further clues in the symbolism of the landscape. On the right-hand side of Triumph of Bacchus and Sacrament of Baptism can be seen what appears to be a small tower that Poussin placed in both paintings. It was after this discovery that I suspected that Triumph of Bacchus, and not Sacrament of Baptism, was the original far right-side component to the four-painting scene.

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Close-up of the small tower in Triumph of Bacchus and Sacrament of Baptism
Continued in Part 2​

I wondered about if the location was the actual Arcadia in Greece? There could be some mountain shapes in the Peloponnese ranges that fit these paintings?

For example:

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Most of the Mycenaean settlements found in Arcadia are in eastern Arcadia, in and around the Tripolis plain (Howell 1970, and see below in Chapter 4). There is a concentration in the vicinity of ancient Tegea…

 
"Vril"
For your information, if you are not already aware of it, - "Vril" seems to be, what now is called "Zero Point Energy".

This seems to be at least the view of a certain person, who is still much too underestimated and overlooked.
This person is a child of 'theosophical' parents, later owner of an antiquarian bookshop, specialized in esoteric and occult books in Berlin of the Weimar Republic, initiated into the O.T.O. by the "Rosicrucian interested" Heinrich Tränker - and at his behest the founder and lodge secretary of the Pansophic Society.
I'm talking about Eugen Grosche - better known as Gregor A. Gregorious.
- Eugen Grosche - Wikipedia

He then takes sides with Aleister Crowley at the Conference of Weida (Hohenleuben) and founds the occult lodge Fraternitas Saturni, which is later banned by the Nazis, but is brought back to life by Grosche after World War II first in the Soviet occupation zone, but later operates from West Berlin in the Federal Republic. He also correspondents with Kenneth Grant in the 1950s.

That Vril is zero-point energy, he mentions in passing in the early 1950's (!!!) in the lodge journal of the Fraternitas Saturni "Blätter für angewandte okkulte Lebenskunst".

That's where I discovered his statement.

I take this seriously because I consider his 'occult knowledge' to be at least equal to or at least more 'systematic' than that of Crowley.
(Everything I have written here, I have put together only by reading books from or about the protagonists mentioned.)
 
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For your information, if you are not already aware of it, - "Vril" seems to be, what now is called "Zero Point Energy".

This seems to be at least the view of a certain person, who is still much too underestimated and overlooked.
This person is a child of 'theosophical' parents, later owner of an antiquarian bookshop, specialized in esoteric and occult books in Berlin of the Weimar Republic, initiated into the O.T.O. by the "Rosicrucian interested" Heinrich Tränker - and at his behest the founder and lodge secretary of the Pansophic Society.
I'm talking about Eugen Grosche - better known as Gregor A. Gregorious.
- Eugen Grosche - Wikipedia

He then takes sides with Aleister Crowley at the Conference of Weida (Hohenleuben) and founds the occult lodge Fraternitas Saturni, which is later banned by the Nazis, but is brought back to life by Grosche after World War II first in the Soviet occupation zone, but later operates from West Berlin in the Federal Republic. He also correspondents with Kenneth Grant in the 1950s.

That Vril is zero-point energy, he mentions in passing in the early 1950's (!!!) in the lodge journal of the Fraternitas Saturni "Blätter für angewandte okkulte Lebenskunst".

That's where I discovered his statement.

I take this seriously because I consider his 'occult knowledge' to be at least equal to or at least more 'systematic' than that of Crowley.
(Everything I have written here, I have put together only by reading books from or about the protagonists mentioned.)
Thank you also for bringing Eugen Grosche to our attention.

Yes, I deduced that "vril" was no doubt what we today would call zero point energy or the energy of the vacuum - existing in the quantum vacuum state. In Bulwer-Lytton's time, scientists still believed in the classical concept of the aether, which was a medium, i.e., a space-filling substance or field as a transmission medium, for the propagation of electromagnetic or gravitational forces. The English scientist and father of the theory of gravity, Sir Isaac Newton, had suggested the existence of an aether in the Third Book of Optiks first published in 1704. In the 19th century, luminiferous aether (or ether), meaning light-bearing aether, was a theorized medium for the propagation of light. During the 19th century, James Clerk Maxwell developed a model to explain electric and magnetic phenomena using the aether, a model that led to what are now called Maxwell's equations and the understanding that light is an electromagnetic wave (Maxwell was responsible for the classical theory of electromagnetic radiation). However, the concept of the aether would be abandoned by scientists in the early 20th century with the advent of Einstein's relativistic physics.

As I have pointed out before, possibly because Einstein was Jewish, the Nazi scientists rejected his theories of relativity, which freed them up to investigate other scientific avenues that might explain the findings of nuclear physicists made during the first part of of the 20th century. Ironically, the concept of the aether or ether was effectively reinvented by quantum theorists such as Paul Dirac who advocated that the quantum vacuum may be the equivalent in modern physics of a particulate aether. Dirac's aether hypothesis was motivated by his dissatisfaction with quantum electrodynamics but and it never gained support from the mainstream scientific community.

However, as the Wikipedia entry for 'aether theories' states (see Aether theories - Wikipedia):
Physicist Robert B. Laughlin wrote:

It is ironic that Einstein's most creative work, the general theory of relativity, should boil down to conceptualizing space as a medium when his original premise [in special relativity] was that no such medium existed [..] The word 'ether' has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo.

Even my own limited knowledge of physics (my brother is a physics graduate and teacher though) tells me that a wave (any wave motion) requires a medium to propagate in. Perhaps the Nazi physicists, freed from the shackles of Einsteinian relativity, were able to discover the reality of zero point energy ("Vril") and then make use of it just as Nikola Tesla had been able to do years earlier until J.P. Morgan had pulled the financial plug on his experiments at Warden Point. Such uses of zero point energy may include their experiments on Die Glocke (the Bell), which the C's have confirmed would lead to their discovery of time travel.

Incidentally, James Clerk Maxwell had originally produced twenty equations, in their modern form of partial differential equations, which first appeared in fully developed form in his textbook A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism in 1873. However, his associate Oliver Heaviside subsequently reduced the complexity of Maxwell's theory down to four partial differential equations, known now collectively as Maxwell's Laws or Maxwell's Equations, after Maxwell's death. Although potentials became much less popular in the nineteenth century, the use of scalar and vector potentials is now standard in the solution of Maxwell's equations.

However, some writers like Dr Joseph P Farrell believe that Heaviside butchered Maxwell's original equations by abandoning his use of quaternions and leading future generations of scientists to be led into the cul de sac of vector analysis. Quoting from Wikipedia again:
As Barrett and Grimes (1995) describe:

Maxwell expressed electromagnetism in the algebra of quaternions and made the electromagnetic potential the centrepiece of his theory. In 1881 Heaviside replaced the electromagnetic potential field by force fields as the centerpiece of electromagnetic theory. According to Heaviside, the electromagnetic potential field was arbitrary and needed to be "assassinated". (sic) A few years later there was a debate between Heaviside and [Peter Guthrie] Tate (sic) about the relative merits of vector analysis and quaternions. The result was the realization that there was no need for the greater physical insights provided by quaternions if the theory was purely local, and vector analysis became commonplace.

Heinrich Hertz said of Maxwell's equations, "It is impossible to study this wonderful theory without feeling as if the mathematical equations had an independent life and intelligence of their own, as if they were wiser than ourselves, indeed wiser than their discoverer, as if they gave forth more than he put into them."

Hmmm.... could we be seeing Thor's Pantheum at work here? Indeed, quaternions had been introduced by the Irish mathematician William Rowan Hamilton in 1843. Hamilton's scientific career included the study of geometrical optics, ideas from Fourier analysis, and, of course, his work on quaternions, which made him one of the founders of modern linear algebra. His work was fundamental to modern theoretical physics, particularly his reformulation of Newtonian mechanics, now called Hamiltonian mechanics. It is now central both to electromagnetism and to quantum mechanics.
Hamilton was looking for ways of extending complex numbers (which can be viewed as points on a 2-dimensional Argand diagram) to higher spatial dimensions. In working with four dimensions, rather than three, he created quaternion algebra. According to Hamilton, on 16 October he was out walking along the Royal Canal in Dublin with his wife when the solution in the form of the equation:

i2 = j2 = k2 = ijk = −1

occurred to him; Hamilton then carved this equation using his penknife into the side of the nearby Broom Bridge (which Hamilton called Brougham Bridge).  

Hmmm.... could this sudden realisation have been due to our friends in Thor's Pantheum again? Who knows?

Even if Heaviside's intervention removing quaternions from Maxwell's equations, replacing them with vector analysis, this did not mean the end for quaternions since one person who was very much inspired by James Clerk Maxwell and William Hamilton's work was the quantum physicist Paul Dirac referred to above. Hamilton believed that his quaternions had many practical applications but the prevailing consensus was that they are certainly mathematically interesting. but scientifically infertile. Dirac discovered Hamilton's ideas whilst he was studying for his mathematics degree. Hamilton's reformulation of Newton's laws of mechanics would become one of Dirac's fixations and Hamilton's methods would become Dirac's favourite way of setting out the fundamental laws of physics. Thus, Hamilton's ideas would be taken over into quantum theory by Dirac.

I appreciate that I am now straying into Ark's field of enquiry here. However, early on in the C's communications they made a very telling remark when querying why quantum theory was still known as theory, when it should be referred to instead as quantum law. The C's also made a very odd remark once about quantum formalism when responding to a question by Ark:
Session 21 November 1998:

Q: “… The knowings are not, in the orthodox view, to be regarded as the basic realities, even though they are the realities that the formalism is based upon. […] Thus there are two powerful reasons for asserting that the quantum formalism does not give a description of reality itself. The first is that this move saves our common sense intuitions that there is something ’out there’; the second is that it apparently helps to save us from having to admit that there are real faster-than-light effects.” (A) I would like to know who is playing this Stapp and why?

A: Those who are against unlocking the truth are at the “core”.


Just what did they mean by the "core" here? Are we talking about the Aryan subterranean civilisation, the Nation of the Third Eye and/or the Quorum? As usual, the C's probably intended multiple points when making this reference to the term "core".

Coming back to Edward Bulwer-Lytton and his book on the Vril, although he never admitted to being a Rosicrucian, that would be in keeping with their modus operandi as the 'Invisibles', as the writer Steve Sora refers to them. He astutely points out that Freemasonry holds itself out as not being a secret society but a society with secrets. However, the original Rosicrucians were a secret society and they kept no membership lists.

Sora and others have delved into the origins of the modern Rosicrucians. For him and other researchers their modern origins seem to date back to the 16th century and would appear to have been focused on two countries in particular, England and Germany (i.e. the states or principalities that would become modern Germany). Indeed, the Rosicrucian Manifestos first emerged in the early 17th century in Germany. I would suggest that the Rosicrucian link between these two countries was preserved into the 20th century through occult groups like the Orphic Circle (which I wrote about early on in this thread) and the Order of the Golden Dawn. These societies no doubt inspired German societies like the Thule Society, which was originally a "German study group" headed by Walter Nauhaus. In 1918, Nauhaus was contacted in Munich by Rudolf von Sebottendorf (or von Sebottendorff), an occultist and newly elected head of the Bavarian province of the schismatic offshoot known as the Germanenorden Walvater of the Holy Grail. The two men became associates in a recruitment campaign, and Sebottendorff adopted Nauhaus's Thule Society as a cover-name for his Munich lodge of the Germanenorden Walvater at its formal dedication on 18 August 1918. A primary focus of the Thule Society was a claim concerning the origins of the Aryan race. This claim was an idea that Adolf Hitler and his Nazi Party would fully embrace with their concept of the Aryan 'master race'. This concept then brings into play certain external influences of an STS nature:

Q: (L) And, getting rid of the Jews was significant? Couldn't a Germanic master race be created without destroying another group?

A: No.

Q: Why?

A: Because of 4th density prior encoding mission destiny profile.

Q: (L) What does that mean?

A: This means encoding to activate after elevation to 4th density, thus if not eliminated, negates Nephalim domination and absorption. Jews were prior encoded to carry out mission after conversion, though on individual basis. The Nazis did not exactly know why they were being driven to destroy them, because they were being controlled from 4th density STS. But, Hitler communicated directly with Lizards, and Orion STS, and was instructed on how to create the "master race."

Q: (L) And they were going to use this as their basis to introduce a new blend of the Nephilim... (RC) And the New World Order... their version of it. (L) Well, what is the plan now?

A: We cannot tell you this yet, as you would seek to reveal it prematurely, leading to your destruction!!!!


Thus, one can see why Edward Bulwer-Lytton's book about a subterranean, pre-deluge civilisation with advanced technology ("vril" power) and scientific knowledge, who were also a golden race far more advanced than surface humans with their developed psychic powers, should so interest occult groups in Germany such as the Thule Society.

As to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Sora claims that this was born from the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia, which had been founded in London in 1865. It was divided into two circles, and its membership numbered 144 individuals including the writer and politician Edward Bulwer-Lytton, the occultist Samuel Mathers and Bram Stoker, the author of Dracula (which some claim contains secret rituals of the Rosicrucians).

Quoting from Wikpedia: Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn - Wikipedia

The three original founders, William Robert Woodman, William Wynn Westcott and Samuel Liddell Mathers, were [all] Freemasons. Westcott appears to have been the initial driving force behind the establishment of the Golden Dawn.

The foundational documents of the original Order of the Golden Dawn, known as the Cipher Manuscripts, are written in English using the Trithemius cipher. The manuscripts give the specific outlines of the Grade Rituals of the Order and prescribe a curriculum of graduated teachings that encompass the Hermetic Qabalah, astrology, occult tarot, geomancy, and alchemy
[MJF: Things which the original medieval Rosicrucians were also interested in].

In October 1887, Westcott claimed to have written to a German countess and prominent Rosicrucian named Anna Sprengel, whose address was said to have been found in the decoded Cipher Manuscripts. According to Westcott, Sprengel claimed the ability to contact certain supernatural entities, known as the Secret Chiefs, that were considered the authorities over any magical order or esoteric organization. Westcott purportedly received a reply from Sprengel granting permission to establish a Golden Dawn temple and conferring honorary grades of Adeptus Exemptus on Westcott, Mathers, and Woodman. The temple was to consist of the five grades outlined in the manuscripts.


So again we find a German Rosicrucian connection involved in the affair.
In 1892, Mathers professed that a link to the Secret Chiefs had been established. Subsequently, he supplied rituals for the Second Order. The rituals were based on the tradition of the tomb of Christian Rosenkreuz, and a Vault of Adepts became the controlling force behind the Outer Order. Later in 1916, Westcott claimed that Mathers also constructed these rituals from materials he received from Frater Lux ex Tenebris, a purported Continental Adept.

Some followers of the Golden Dawn tradition believe that the Secret Chiefs were not human or supernatural beings, but rather symbolic representations of actual or legendary sources of spiritual esotericism. The term came to stand for a great leader or teacher of a spiritual path or practice that found its way into the teachings of the Order.


Many celebrities would belong to the Golden Dawn, such as the actress Florence Farr, the Irish revolutionary Maud Gonne, the Irish poet William Butler Yeats, the Welsh author Arthur Machen, and the English authors Evelyn Underhill, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (the author of the Sherlock Holmes books) and Aleister Crowley.​
 
Hamilton believed that his quaternions had many practical applications but the prevailing consensus was that they are certainly mathematically interesting. but scientifically infertile.

Hamilton was right. Today quaternions are fundamental to express the physics of objects in virtual worlds.


In computer graphics, we use transformation matrices to express a position in space (translation) as well as its orientation in space (rotation). Optionally, a single transformation matrix can also be used to express the scale or “shear” of an object. We can think of this transformation matrix as a “basis space” where if you multiply a vector or a point (or even another matrix) by a transformation matrix you “transform” that vector, point or matrix into the space represented by that matrix.

I can't understand much of the physics involved either, but I understand that with quaternions let's say you have the ability to point to a specific space/time event. Like a slide or photo.

What does slide remind you of? To the slide projector referred to on several occasions by the C's.
I wonder if quaternions can be used to determine a point in space-time for a given event. Using the analogy explained by the C's of the projector and slides, where each slide is an event that you can select by going backwards or forwards in time. The quaternion can give you the coordinates of the slide.
Thank you for pointing this fact out. I had not realised quaternions were used in the 3D graphics engines of video games. What scares me about this application is that there is a school of scientific thought that our physical existence is in reality based within a 2-Dimensional holographic simulation, so that 3D is in fact just an illusion. If that were so, could the computer programmer of our reality have made use of quaternions within the programming to give us the illusion of 3D orientation? Our bodies would then be 3D simulations or avatars, if you like, linked to our consciousness and controlled in much the same way that we now control a character in a video game by constantly making decisions.

This might also explain how awareness is the determining factor in knowing what density you are in - i.e., seeing the matrix or virtual reality for what it really is. This makes me think of the Matrix films and of an old sci-fi flm called Tron (see: Tron - Wikipedia), which dealt with the same concept by having the heroes stepping into their computer simulation to save the day. Could this also explain why in 4th density you may see things in straight lines where in 3rd Density these lines appear curved - recall what the C's said about people driving off roads in New Mexico when they failed to negotiate a curve since they thought in their minds that the road was going straight on when it wasn't?

The C's gave credence to this notion of our living in a virtual reality universe when they said we would not even exist unless someone had dreamt us up. That idea is reflected in the Hindu belief that Brahma is the creator and the great magician (programmer) who dreams the universe into being. The dream itself is then maintained by Vishnu, the preserver (or IT techinician?) , who uses maya to spin the illusion. Since Hinduism as a philosophy was most likely a legacy from the Aryan invaders (Atlantian survivors) of India, this suggests that such concepts were carried over from the advanced scientific knowledge of the Atlantians and preserved through myths, which were handed down from generation to generation.

So the topic comes back again to this quaternions as a mathematical element that can potentially open the gates of space/time.
 
Hamilton was right. Today quaternions are fundamental to express the physics of objects in virtual worlds.




I can't understand much of the physics involved either, but I understand that with quaternions let's say you have the ability to point to a specific space/time event. Like a slide or photo.

What does slide remind you of? To the slide projector referred to on several occasions by the C's.



So the topic comes back again to this quaternions as a mathematical element that can potentially open the gates of space/time.
Yes, I agree. I did try to interest Ark in looking into quaternions (Dirac was, as we know, a fan of Hamilton's work) after I discovered an article about a young Canadian (or American?) physicist who was using them in a novel way in conjunction I think with octonians, which are a superset of quaternions. The reference to octonians may bring us back to the octagon, a geometric shape beloved of the Knights Templar and eastern mystics.​

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For those of a more mathematical bent, the above book by John H. Conway, a Professor of Mathematics at Princeton University. investigates the geometry of quaternion and octonion algebras. Following a comprehensive historical introduction, the book illuminates the special properties of 3- and 4-dimensional Euclidean spaces using quaternions, leading to enumerations of the corresponding finite groups of symmetries. The second half of the book discusses the less familiar octonion algebra, concentrating on its remarkable "triality symmetry" after an appropriate study of Moufang loops. The authors also describe the arithmetics of the quaternions and octonions. The book concludes with a new theory of octonion factorization. Topics covered include the geometry of complex numbers, quaternions and 3-dimensional groups, quaternions and 4-dimensional groups, Hurwitz integral quaternions, composition algebras, Moufang loops, octonions and 8-dimensional geometry, integral octonions, and the octonion projective plane.

The diagram on the right also seems to link with what is called the 'Fano Plane'. In finite geometry, the Fano plane (after Gino Fano) is a finite projective plane with the smallest possible number of points and lines: 7 points and 7 lines, with 3 points on every line and 3 lines through every point. These points and lines cannot exist with this pattern of incidences in Euclidean geometry, but they can be given coordinates using the finite field with two elements. The standard notation for this plane, as a member of a family of projective spaces, is PG(2, 2). Here PG stands for "projective geometry", the first parameter is the geometric dimension (it is a plane, of dimension 2) and the second parameter is the order (the number of points per line, minus one).

The Fano plane is an example of a finite incidence structure, so many of its properties can be established using combinatorial techniques and other tools used in the study of incidence geometries. Since it is a projective space, algebraic techniques can also be effective tools in its study.
In mathematics, projective geometry is the study of geometric properties that are invariant with respect to projective transformations. This means that, compared to elementary Euclidian geometry, projective geometry has a different setting, projective space, and a selective set of basic geometric concepts. The basic intuitions are that projective space has more points than Euclidean space, for a given dimension, and that geometric transformations are permitted that transform the extra points (called "points at infinity") to Euclidean points, and vice-versa.

I must confess that I am completely out of my mathematical depth here but the reference to projective geometry makes me think of the pentatope (which is a 5-vertex four-dimensional object bounded by five tetrahedral cells, also known as a C5, pentachoron, pentatope, pentahedroid, or tetrahedral pyramid) and Nicolas Poussin's use of pentagonal geometry in his painting of The Shepherds of Arcadia, which we know from our research on this Forum contains concealed items within the painting when looking at a mirror image perspective of it. Let us recall that Poussin studied artistic perspective under the Jesuit polymath Athanasius Kircher who had taught mathematics and physics at the Collegio Romano (now the Pontifical Gregorian University). Although Kircher's work was not mathematically based, he did develop various systems for generating and counting all combinations of a finite collection of objects (i.e., a finite set), based on the previous work of Ramon Llull. His methods and diagrams are discussed in his work Ars Magna Sciendi, sive Combinatoria, 1669. They include what may be the first recorded drawings of complete bipartite graphs, extending a similar technique used by Llull to visualize complete graphs.

And let us recall again what the C's said about the tetrahedron:
Q: (T) So they're spinning to keep balance? (J) Like a gyro. [Notice that the Cs did NOT say that anything was spinning, only that energy was flowing.] (T) Is there... now, am I correct in the fact that there's a direct relationship here to the real Hebrew Star of David, to these tetrahedrals?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) And that everything that has been done to it for the last 500 years or so, has been done to screw things up?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Yes. So that that symbol is not a religious symbol, as such, but a very important... (L)...power symbol?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) It describes a physics that transcends the densities.

A: So is pentagon.

Q: (T) So is the Pentagon? (J) A pentagon. (T) The pentagon shape. These are part of what humans describe as the sacred geometries.

A: Yes.

In the mathematical field of graph theory, a complete graph is a simple undirected graph in which every pair of distinct vertices is connected by a unique edge. A complete digraph is a directed graph in which every pair of distinct vertices is connected by a pair of unique edges (one in each direction).

Graph theory itself is typically dated as beginning with Leonhard Euler's 1736 work on the Seven Bridges of Königsberg. However, drawings of complete graphs, with their vertices placed on the points of a regular polygon, had already appeared in the 13th century, in the work of Ramon Llull. Such a drawing is sometimes referred to as a mystic rose (MJF: A curious name when you think of the biblical Rose of Sharon from the Song of Solomon and then you have the Rosicrucians with their rose cross). Below is an example of a Complete graph:

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K7, a complete graph with 7 vertices​

As per the Fano plane we seem to have 7 points and 7 lines. Whether there is any connection between the two things, I don't know. However, what this does suggest is that certain mathematical concepts have a much older pedigree than is normally realised. We should also recall how the Freemasons and Rosicrucians have always had an obsession with sacred geometry. Evidently, they must have known that geometry can open up the secrets of the universe but without exactly knowing how.​
 
"As per the Fano plane we seem to have 7 points and 7 lines. Whether there is any connection between the two things, I don't know. However, what this does suggest is that certain mathematical concepts have a much older pedigree than is normally realised. We should also recall how the Freemasons and Rosicrucians have always had an obsession with sacred geometry. Evidently, they must have known that geometry can open up the secrets of the universe but without exactly knowing how."

I am quoting the last paragraph from my previous post since I now realise that I had overlooked something the C's had said, which tends to support the point I was making about the Freemasons and Rosicrucians knowing that geometry can open up the secrets of the universe but without exactly knowing how it does. The C's said the following in the Session dated 21 December 1996::​

Q: (L) Do the Rosicrucians have writings in their keeping that they, themselves, do not understand?

A: Yes. So do the Masons.


The C's don't tell us how these writings came into their possession. Could these writings have been in documents the Knights Templar discovered during their excavations under Temple Mount in Jerusalem? We should recall that Abraham/.Moses brought the Grail and the Ark (carried by the Levites) out of Egypt with them. Did they also bring documents or some other medium on which secret knowledge may have been written (e.g. stone tablets) with them? Let us not forget that Abraham/Moses was clearly an adept who must have known the secret of alchemy since we see him melting down gold into the white powder or "Ormus" (monoatomic gold), which was then ingested by the rebellious Israelites after they had worshipped the Golden Calf during his absence. Let us also recall that the in the 13th century, the Priory of Sion (the real one, which I suspect was a Rosicrucian front) adopted the name of "Ormus" after their split with the Knights Templar post the fall of Jerusalem. Could these secrets have been found within the records buried under the Sphinx in Giza:

Q: (L) Why was the sphinx built? What was its purpose?

A: Temple.

Q: (L) Are there records buried under the sphinx?

A: Yes.


Could some, but not all, of these buried records (including perhaps Baphomet as a sophisticated quartz storage device, and sentient artificial intelligence, containing huge amounts of data) have been discovered at some stage in antiquity at Giza, which would eventually come into the possession of Sarah/Nefertiti and Abraham/Moses, after Nefertiti stole them from her husband Pharaoh Akhenaten, and ultimately into the hands of the Knights Templar? Could Akhenaten have inherited these records from his grandfather, Thutmose IV, who had discovered them after the strange dream he had when he had stopped to rest under the head of the Sphinx, which at that time was buried up to its neck in sand. Although historians and archaeologists normally pass this episode off as merely propaganda to bestow legitimacy upon his unexpected kingship, could it have really happened? If Thutmose found the Grail, could it have called out to him telepathically, since the Grail is also known as a king maker (think here of the legend of King Arthur and the Sword in the Stone - which is perhaps a metaphor for the Grail that the C's used when they told Laura: "They cannot "see" or "draw the sword from the stone"). It may also be of significance that like his grandson later, Thutmose married a foreign princess who was from the kingdom of Mitanni, a Hurrian-speaking state in northern Syria and southeast Anatolia (modern-day Turkey). More importantly, the town of Harran (linked with the Sabians and with Abraham and his family in the Bible) was located either just inside their territory or just outside during the 15th century BC, when the kingdom was at the height of its powers.

As to the secrets possessed by the Knights Templar, the C's alluded further to these in the following extract from the transcripts:
Q: What was the head worshipped by the Templars that was supposed to have been called "Baphomet?"

A: Seer of the passage.

Q: What does that mean?

A: Remember, secrets of Knights Templar were kept in caves guided by eternally burning lamps.


If I am correct in my proposition that the Grail may be the crystal skull or head called 'Baphomet' by the Templars, this suggests that it could have been kept somewhere within a cave, which were places we know the Templars were fond of using, along with subterranean tunnels, in order to store precious items and treasure. Could it therefore be significant that in his epic Grail story Parzival, Wolfram von Eschenbach has the Hermit Trevrizent, Parzival's (Perceval's) guru, living in a cave, just like St Anthony the Hermit, the subject of David Teniers the Younger's paintings in his various versions of The Temptation of St. Anthony.

The C's elaborated further on the source of the Masons knowledge and its link to secret knowledge that had been stored at the base of the Sphinx by Atlantean survivors:

Q: Now, all these Masons are very hot on the Sinclair family and the Rosslyn Chapel. They are certain that their guys came to America, because in this chapel, built supposedly by a Master Mason, there are carvings of corn, as in maize, and aloe vera plants. This is evidence, to them, that Prince Henry the Navigator and all the Templars and all that...

A: Nonsense!

Q: Well, then, what IS the explanation for these carvings in Rosslyn Chapel?

A: Visitors yes, but the Masonic creed is intertwined with ancient order of Essenes, arising out of ancient Egypt, from the secret knowledge stored at the base of the Sphinx, as left there by "Atlantean" survivors.

Q: Does anybody in the Masonic order know anything?

A: Yes.

Q: Well, how high do you have to go to get to know anything?

A: Page 33. Blond and blue-eyed, of course! Before genetic alteration, one branch stood eleven feet tall.


You will note that the C's put the word "Atlanteans" in quotes, which always indicates they wish to emphasise something important by them doing so. As noted before, the C's also referred here to the ancient order of the Essenes, members of which may have migrated with the Israelites when they went into the desert, a branch surviving even into the time of Christ. Indeed, is there a link between the Levites (who the C's say were originally Hittites from Anatolia, modern day Turkey, where the ancient Neolithic site of Tepe Göbekli, which pre-dates the Pyramids of Giza, is to be found in the south-east of the country, replete with its statues of giants and strange carvings) and this ancient order of Essenes they mention and could that connection also embrace the mysterious religious group known as the Sabians (star gazers) who had a centre based on the city of Harran (see above) and perhaps a colony at Giza (see my earlier article for more on this)?

As to Laura's comments on Prince Henry Sinclair and his alleged voyage to the New World in the late 14th century, please note that the C's appear to be confirming that he and/or the Templars did in fact reach the shores of North America where they say "visitors yes". This confirmation may be highly relevant to the mystery of Oak Island and the TDARM buried there, since there is now definite evidence for a Templar/Masonic presence on the Island during the Middle Ages. This last point will become more relevant to us in upcoming posts I am currently working on, where the Newport Tower on Rhode Island, which we looked at in an earlier post, will assume far greater importance. The reference to "Page 33" is clearly to the 33rd degree of Freemasonry (in the Scottish Rite). But why the number "33", given what else the C's have said about that important number? Well, I may have found the reason for this in a book I have been reading recently, which I will share in a future post. Suffice to say for now, it may explain the reason why the first American astronauts to land on the Moon in 1969, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin (both of whom were Freemasons), carried out a masonic ritual involving a communion offering to Isis before they commenced their famous first walk on the Moon. Let us not forget either that the 33rd degree of Freemasonry is the top degree or rank of the Masonic Order (which you must be invited to obtain, since you cannot request it unlike the other degrees) and the C's have said that the
Masons are the low level branch of the Illuminati.

Q: (L) How do the Masons relate to the Illuminati?

A: Masons are low level branch.

It would also seem that there is still further secret knowledge yet to be found under the Sphinx according to the C's (and Edgar Cayce for that matter) judging from what they said in the following extract from the transcripts:

Q: Were the Egyptians using the Pyramids to travel in time?

A: Maybe in a crude sense, more like an oracle.

Q: They say that there is a subterranean chamber under the sphinx that leads to all the other pyramids. Is this correct?

A: Yes. But more importantly, there is a buried capsule of sorts.

Q: Has this buried capsule been found?

A: Not uncovered, but the evidence exists.



 
Could some, but not all, of these buried records (including perhaps Baphomet as a sophisticated quartz storage device, and sentient artificial intelligence, containing huge amounts of data)

You may find this interesting. But today quantum computing and wormholes are being experimented with.

We are currently seeing quite a lot of progress in everything that involves artificial intelligence. Now when you look at the following graph I think you will see a geometric figure like the one in your post of Sunday at 6:00 PM


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As per the Fano plane we seem to have 7 points and 7 lines. Whether there is any connection between the two things, I don't know. However, what this does suggest is that certain mathematical concepts have a much older pedigree than is normally realised.

In the article they used 7 qbits because it was simpler and easier to work with, however more can be used to generate a more complex geometric figure.
 
You may find this interesting. But today quantum computing and wormholes are being experimented with.

We are currently seeing quite a lot of progress in everything that involves artificial intelligence. Now when you look at the following graph I think you will see a geometric figure like the one in your post of Sunday at 6:00 PM


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In the article they used 7 qbits because it was simpler and easier to work with, however more can be used to generate a more complex geometric figure.
This is very interesting indeed. I checked and learned that the first successful quantum teleportation experiment was conducted in 2019 - see Scientists Successfully Achieves First-Ever Quantum and Data Teleportation in Human History

The medium used to achieve quantum and data teleportation were two computer chips, that was done in only in 2019. Quantum entanglement was the means they transferred the chips, through a non-physical vacuum. This means no wires and by linking two quantum particles in a gap, with concepts from quantum physics.

See also: Quantum teleportation - Wikipedia.

One point I would challenge here is that the scientists maintain that teleportation as a whole can never be superluminal, as a qubit cannot be reconstructed until the accompanying classical information arrives. However, as I have pointed out, gravity waves are superluminal and the C's have confirmed this.

Is physical teleporation possible though? Well, the answer seems to be yes. Researchers have been making headway on making this happen, but on a very small scale, achieving successes in teleporting photons (particles of light) as well as atoms like cesium and rubidium. This is still a long way though from being able to teleport humans (as in "beam me up Scotty"). See: Beam me up? The paradoxes and potential of human teleportation for more on this subject.

However, the C's have confirmed that a group of Celts were able to teleport a physical object, i.e., the Virgin of Candelaria statue, to Tenerife in 1198 AD, which suggests it can be done but it seems to require a mental component and magnetite.
Session 31 May 1997:

Q: In the information I now have on the Canaries, I found that a strange icon appeared on the island long before the conquest, long before any missionaries or Europeans arrived. The natives were the big, blond types. They said that they knew this icon was divine because following its appearance, there were processions of angels, or divine beings, up and down the beach where it appeared, lights, smells, chanting and singing and so forth.

Q: How did the statue of the Virgin of Candelaria arrive on the beach at Tenerife?


A: Teleportation.

Q: Who teleported it there?

A: The "Celts."
[
MJF: Curiously, Irish Celts (Gaels) are renowned for having very high levels of iron in their blood, myself included.]

Session 7 June 1997:

Q: Alright. I want to clear up some quick ones before I get into the more complicated subjects. Left from last week: We talked about the statue of the Virgin of Candelaria, and the mode of its appearance. But, I want to know what year it arrived on the Canaries?

A: No year was measured then.

Q: Well, I know the Guanches did not, but related to the Spaniards who arrived later and who learned about it, when was it?


A: Maybe 1198 would be good.

The question we need to ask is how did they do it? Did they have access to a TDARM or did they achieve it by their own means? The C's provided further clues in that same session, which suggests the latter.

Q: So, it is the iron that the Celts need? Well, that brings me to the next question: In all the Celtic folklore when they talk about 'fairies,' which are obviously other density beings very similar to our modern 'Gray alien,' these fairy/slash aliens insist that no iron come near them in any way. It was also said that bringing iron into contact with someone thought to be a 'changeling' would prove whether or not they were because if they were, they would disappear instantly. Also, the instructions for the building of the Temple of Solomon included restrictions on the use of iron in either the preparation of the materials or the putting together of the building itself, even down to the rejection of the use of iron nails in any part. What is the significance of this restriction on the use of iron by these other density beings, whoever they are?

A: Bloodline trails.

Q: Are you saying that... I don't understand... not even well enough to frame another question...

A: You will, my dear, oh will you!

Q: If it was necessary for the Aryans to have iron... okay, maybe the iron is something that interacts...

A: What about iron as an element?

Q: Okay, let's see: {consults dictionary} Iron –derived from early Celt 'iserno,' via Illyrian 'eisarno' from the IndoEuropean base 'eis,' which means to 'move vigorously; strong, holy.' It is a white, malleable, ductile, metallic chemical element that can be readily magnetized, rusts rapidly in moist or salty air, and is vital to plant and animal life; it is the most common and important of all metals, and its alloys, as steel, are extensively used. Symbol: Fe; atomic weight:55.847; atomic number: 26; specific gravity: 7.86; melting point: 1535 degrees Centigrade; boiling point 3,000 degrees C. The electron shells are thus: 2,14,8,2. I
ron is an element of blood, hemoglobin, and is easily magnetized... there is some new work about iron and magnetite in the brains of people who are psychic or have 'abduction' experiences... is it the magnetism?

A: Yes....


Q: Is it something that holds one more firmly in 3rd density, and the elimination of it enables one to switch densities... or...

A: Tis magnetite that acts as a conduit, and perhaps, just perhaps, allows for transference back and forth at will?!?
[
MJF: Which seems to be a clear reference to teleportation] And what about the legend about the alchemists? Is not the key term there really transformation?!? And has not the "smoke screen" really been delivered so effectively by all the concentration upon the substance?!? And does not this remind one indeed of all the misguided concentration upon substance rather than meaning that one finds so regularly on 3rd density??

Q: I get it! So, it is the magnetite in the body, that collects and holds the charge, and it has absolutely nothing to do with an external substance at all! Is that it?

A: You are getting "warmer."

Q: Am I right, we need more iron for magnetite, or am I completely off base here?

A: You are right, but, do not underestimate the significance of that just delivered! What better deception than to divert the meaning of alchemy, by focusing upon substance, then addicting those souls bound to 3rd density to the substance?
[MJF: Think here of what the C's said about monoatomic gold and the way it is used to control people.]

Q: Okay, it is the magnetite that acts as a conduit. And the concentration is upon the substance, that is, the magnetite. Let me conjecture that the thing that is believed to be distilled out of the alchemical operations is magnetite, is that correct?

A: No, because no need, if not deceived by other efforts.
[MJF: What the C's meant was that the real goal of the alchemist was to transmute the person rather than base metal to gold.]

[.....]
Q: Ark did some reading on the Einstein thing, the letters to Kaluza, and there did not seem to be anything that E did in the period mentioned that would make one tend to think that there was a UFT from him in that time. But, Kaluza DID have an interesting idea about a 5 dimensional cylinder UFT which Einstein thought was quite startling. Yet, it seems that Einstein somewhat delayed Kaluza's presentation. What struck me was the word 'cylinder' which reminded me of the earlier session where I asked if the Germans had developed a time machine and you said 'yes,' and that it was in Antarctica, and that 'they' were 'exploring the loop of the cylinder.' You said that the loop of the cylinder was a 4th thru 6th density profile. Could you give me some elaboration on this cylinder, the loop of the cylinder, and whether it was Kaluza who did the UFT and not Einstein?

A: Cylinder is really a double loop, is it not? And meditate if you will on the true meaning of this! [MJF: Which can be represented in the form of the wormhole, which looks like like a heavily twisted can of coke, as depicted in the illustration of the quantum wormhole you provided above.]

Q: Is it true that Kaluza had the theory and Einstein didn't?

A: Maybe it is that Einstein first hypothesized, and others were then commissioned for the purpose of completion in order to lead to application.


[…]

Q: That is what Ark said, essentially, I think. Okay. There are two more things I want to cover tonight. The first is my map here of Tenerife. See the map? {Points to map on table.} What does it make you think of? After all this time of discussing the Canaries, I have this detailed map here. And, apparently somewhere along here is where the statue was found. Here is the cave where it was kept. And along here the processions...

A: It?? How about they? And, we feel you might now be best served by researching a "modern day" connection for these things, such as UFOs, Roswell, and the underground zones, and what purpose they serve.


Q: Okay. Leave off the Canary Islands. But, one more little thing here... This is the inscription on the statue of the Virgin of Candelaria. Can you offer any suggestions for decoding this?

A: Try the "3/5 principle"... Let your search be joyous as always...


[MJF: the reference to the "3/5 principle" above may possibly relate also to the "353535 code" the C's have referred to in the transcripts as per the following extract:

(L) Okay, now about the Pig God: what is it about pigs that makes them ideal as a symbol for the manifestation of God energy, or even as a vehicle?
A: Genetically manipulated RU 353535.
Q: (L) What does that code relate to?
A:
Race underpinning tribal code structure

So is the inscription providing DNA information relating to the "3/5 principle" and/or the tribal code RU353535?]


Ryan commenting on the above:

"A: Cylinder is really a double loop, is it not? And meditate if you will on the true meaning of this!

Interesting that a loop is a two-dimensional concept and that you need to utilize a higher dimension (3rd) in order to create a cylinder from two loops. And if you "loop" a cylinder, you get a toroid*. This will give you a shape with two surfaces (interior and exterior). However, if you utilise a higher dimension (4th), you can 'rotate' a sector of the toroid in an analogous way to a Möbius strip and create a "looped cylinder" that has only one surface. You could then access any point on the cylinder."

*See: Toroid - Wikipedia and

And as I have mentioned before, a mobius strip when viewed from side-on in 2D looks a bit like the mathematical sign for infinity ∞, i.e., the lemniscate.

Carrying on with the Virgin of Candelaria theme and teleportation, the statue was mentioned again in the
Session dated 21 June 1997:

Q: Okay. I think that helps. We will take care of it and see where it goes. Now, I was trying to relate the Canaries to Roswell, and noted the funny numbers of lines of latitude. I really didn't WANT to read any more about this subject, but I dug out all the stuff sent to me by Stan Friedman. And, while I was reading, I was looking at the map and locating the various sites mentioned by him. It seems that the actual 'crash' did not take place AT Roswell. It was nearer to Corona. And, near Corona is a place called 'Socorro,' and there is a Socorro on the Canaries, also, which is almost exactly where this statue of the Virgin was found. C**** and I looked it up and it means 'succour.' The inscription on the painting of the Magdalene that is in the church at Rennes le Chateau talks about the 'tears of the virgin' washing away sin and is a plea for 'succour.' And this painting is modelled on the painting of St. Anthony, the hermit, who is shown being tempted by creatures that can only be described as 'aliens.' Now, there is also a Magdalena, a St. Anthony, and even a Pearce on the map near this crash site. And when I drew little lines connecting them all, they enclosed this plain of San Augustin....

MJF: Now, apart from all the other amazing connections Laura mentions above, it is interesting that she should refer to 'Socorro', the place where the statue of the Virgin of Candelaria was found on Tenerife, as meaning "succour" or "help" in English. If you were not aware, there is in fact a Catholic cult based around an image or icon of the Blessed Virgin Mary known by the title of 'Our Lady of Perpetual Succour'.

Quoting from Wikipedia:

Our Mother of Perpetual Help (Latin: Nostra Mater de Perpetuo Succursu) (colloquially known as Our Lady of Perpetual Help) (1325—1480) is a Roman Catholic title of the Blessed Virgin Mary associated with a 15th-century Byzantine icon with an alleged Marian apparition. The icon is believed to have originated from the Keras Kardiotissas Monastery and has been in Rome since 1499. Today it is permanently enshrined in the Church of Saint Alphonse of Liguori, where the official Novena to Our Mother of Perpetual Help text is prayed weekly.
OurLadyofPerpetualHelpIcon.jpg

Curiously, the wooden icon shown above (which originally was an Eastern Orthodox or Byzantine object of devotion rather than a Catholic one) is thought to date back to the 13th century, thus putting it close in time to when the statue of the Virgin of Candelaria materialised in Tenerife in 1198. According to popular legend the icon was thought to have been purchased from Crete by a merchant who shipped it to Italy towards the end of the 15th century. During the voyage, a terrible storm arose threatening the lives of all onboard. The passengers and crew prayed to the Blessed Virgin and were saved. When the merchant was dying, he instructed that the icon should be put on public display in Rome. The icon was subsequently housed in the Church of St Matthew in Rome where it was venerated by the faithful for the next 300 years under the title of 'the Madonna of St, Matthew'. However, in 1812 the forces of Napoleon Bonaparte seized and sacked the city, including the Church of St Matthew. It was thought the icon had been lost forever when in fact it had been secretly handed over to the safekeeping of the Augustinians (see more below on the Augustinians). In 1866, Pope Pius IX entrusted the icon to the Redemptorist Order where it has been housed in their church of St Alphonsus of Liguori in Rome ever since.

Now this may just be a very fanciful tale, but I was told a very different story concerning the manner in which the icon had arrived in Rome by a Redemptorist Prior whose order are the current custodians of the icon. He told me an alternative legend of how the icon was miraculously transported from Yugoslavia (not Crete) to save it from falling into the hands of Moslem forces. Apparently, it was escorted by two Christian knights who had been guarding it when they literally found themselves flying across the Adriatic whilst holding the icon - shades of the 'Helle and the Golden Ram' myth here you may think, which in turn may be linked with the Grail. Though I don't necessarily buy into this version of the icon's back story, it does lead me to wonder whether if there is anything to this alternative tale of its provenance, could the icon have been teleported to Italy like the Virgin of Candelaria was to Tenerife? Is it just mere coincidence that the name of the icon is the same as the location where the Virgin of Candelaria was found by the Guanches (rather in the same way that there happens to be a Socorro both in New Mexico and Tenerife), bearing in mind the Guanches may have had a different name for that location from the one their Spanish conquerors would give it after the conquest of the island in 1496. It could just be that the Spanish renamed the location where the Virgin of Candelaria first appeared 'Socorro' so as to link it with the icon of 'Our Lady of Perpetual Succour', a cult that would have certainly been established by the early 16th century. This would fit in with the established Catholic practice of christianising former pagan cults and shrines (St Bridget's Fire and her shrines in Ireland being a good example of this practice in action). Alternatively, the Gaunches may have associated the location with their own word for 'help', since the statue may have been linked to miraculous occurrences (think here of the weird 4D procession Laura refers to in the extract above) and cures in the same way the icon of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour is in Rome. Who knows?

However, the link with medieval statues and icons, with Socoro meaning 'help', the Augustinians and teleportation was too strong for me to resist. Moreover, we should note that to Orthodox Christians, icons have a far deeper significance than Catholic statues and images do within the Catholic Church. To Orthodox Christians, icons are living, sacred things that create a deep connection between those who venerate the icon and the person represented by the icon, for example, the Blessed Virgin Mary as in the icon of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour. Hence, as one Orthodox commentator put it, icons create a kind of window (or should this be portal?) and link to the personage commemorated on the icon.

A: And who was Saint Augustine/San Augustin... Augustus, Augustine Monks, etc? [MJF: This could have been a possible indirect reference to the Augustinian Cannons of the Abbey de Notre Dame du Mont Sion (Our Lady of Mount Sion) in Jerusalem who we looked at in an earlier post on this thread. They would seem to have been the real 'Priory of Sion' (and possibly a Rosicrucian front too), although this notion is typically dismissed as a hoax in the Wikipedia entry for the Priory - see: Order of Sion - Wikipedia.]

Q: Oh! Well, I never thought about that! I was going after St. Anthony and the Magdalene... St. Augustine was one of the early church 'fathers' who wrote a lot of things that became established church doctrine in general.

However, the Virgin of Candelaria is not the only example of physical teleportation the C's have given us. There was also Chaco Canyon in New Mexico.​

Session 4 July 2009:

Q: (L) Okay, enough on that. Next? (A**) I was gonna ask about Chaco Canyon. What was it built for?

A: Gathering place for those of unusual abilities.

Q: (A***) Did anybody actually live there?

A: More like a "conference centre."

Q: (A**) So what happened to the people that used it?

A: Change of cosmic environment followed by earthly difficulties such as famine, climate etc.

Q: (J) What kind of things did those people with unusual abilities do when they gathered together?

A: Well, levitate, for one; direct manifestation for another; and "travel".
[MJF: Compare here with the Ancient Britons dancing at Stonehenge and levitating whilst doing so.]

Q: (Allen) So, could they travel from one spot on the planet to another?

A: Yes.

Q: (A*l) Could they teleport?

A: Yes.

Q: (J) Teleport... These weren't your average human beings then. (laughter)

A: No not exactly, but it wasn't the same environment you currently enjoy either.

Q: (A**) Where did these people come from?

A: Remnant Atlanteans. Descendants for the word sticklers.


Although we know that a TDARM can facilitate teleportation, it would seem the people gathering at Chaco Canyon had this inherent ability within themselves and did not need to rely on technology to achieve it. Remember, the C's said early on that STS has to rely on technology, whereas STS can achieve the same results without the need to resort to technology.​

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As to the issue of the Grail being sentient, artificial intelligence (AI), the same would appear to be true of the power cell, which was retained in and became known as the 'Ark of the Covenant':
Q: (L) What was the "Ark of the Covenant?"
A: Power cell.
Q: (L) What was the origin of this power cell?
A: Lizards given to the Jews to use for manipulation of others.
Q: (L) Why was it that if you came close to this object or touched it you would die?
A: Energy overload; scrambling by reverse electromagnetism.
Q: (L) What is reverse electromagnetism?
A: Turned inward.
Q: (L) What effect does it produce?
A: Liquification of matter.
Q: (L) Well, that is pleasant. This "cell" was kept in an ornate box of some sort, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why was it only the priests who could handle it?
A: Only those who would not try to use for selfish reasons.
Q: (L) But then did just coming near it injure a person?
A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well why were these individuals able to come near it? [MJF: These individuals were, of course, Abraham/Moses, Aaron (if he ever existed) and their fellow Levites, who the C's described as being monk life pacifists. Interestingly, the Levites were the only Tribe of Israel that were not allotted land in the Kingdom of Irael. Could this fact be linked to the answer the C's gave directly below?]
A: Nonselfish energy field. [i.e., STO in nature]
Q: (L) So it could tune into thought fields?
A: Yes.


You therefore have to ask yourself what kind of device is able to tune into thought fields and read people's dispositions (i.e., whether they are STS or STO, which may also be connected to their FRV reading). I don't think any artificial intelligence we have today can do this yet, but please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. And it seems the Grail was, and still is, capable of doing the same as well.​
 
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This is very interesting indeed. I checked and learned that the first successful quantum teleportation experiment was conducted in 2019 - see Scientists Successfully Achieves First-Ever Quantum and Data Teleportation in Human History

The medium used to achieve quantum and data teleportation were two computer chips, that was done in only in 2019. Quantum entanglement was the means they transferred the chips, through a non-physical vacuum. This means no wires and by linking two quantum particles in a gap, with concepts from quantum physics.
See also: Quantum teleportation - Wikipedia.

One point I would challenge here is that the scientists maintain that teleportation as a whole can never be superluminal, as a qubit cannot be reconstructed until the accompanying classical information arrives. However, as I have pointed out, gravity waves are superluminal and the C's have confirmed this.

Is physical teleporation possible though?​

Q: Ark did some reading on the Einstein thing, the letters to Kaluza, and there did not seem to be anything that E did in the period mentioned that would make one tend to think that there was a UFT from him in that time. But, Kaluza DID have an interesting idea about a 5 dimensional cylinder UFT which Einstein thought was quite startling. Yet, it seems that Einstein somewhat delayed Kaluza's presentation. What struck me was the word 'cylinder' which reminded me of the earlier session where I asked if the Germans had developed a time machine and you said 'yes,' and that it was in Antarctica, and that 'they' were 'exploring the loop of the cylinder.' You said that the loop of the cylinder was a 4th thru 6th density profile. Could you give me some elaboration on this cylinder, the loop of the cylinder, and whether it was Kaluza who did the UFT and not Einstein?

A: Cylinder is really a double loop, is it not? And meditate if you will on the true meaning of this!
[MJF: Which can be represented in the form of the wormhole, which looks like like a heavily twisted can of coke, as depicted in the illustration of the quantum wormhole you provided above.]

Let's see, by citing the wormhole article, what these scientists achieved is to somehow bring closer or resolve that between the theory and/or quantum fields and general relativity there is no distance.

The experiment using qbits is a proxy to resolve that in effect ER = ERP: ER = EPR - Wikipedia

ER = EPR is a conjecture in physics stating that two entangled particles (a so-called Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen or EPR pair) are connected by a wormhole (or Einstein–Rosen bridge)[1][2] and is thought by some to be a basis for unifying general relativity and quantum mechanics into a theory of everything.[1]

TL;DR: Unified field theory.
But what is happening? Why do I associate it with AI, crystals and the Grail?

First of all, every microprocessor uses silicon as its base. And silicon is basically a quartz crystal, silicon dioxide. I am not going to quote the whole manufacturing process of a microprocessor in the web, but you have to take into account that when you draw the circuit on silicon it can be a neural network:


Artificial neural networks (also known as connectionist systems) is a computational model evolved from several scientific contributions that are recorded in history. It consists of a set of units, called artificial neurons, connected together to transmit signals to each other. The input information passes through the neural network (where it undergoes various operations) producing output values.

Each neuron is connected to other neurons through links. In these links the output value of the previous neuron is multiplied by a weight value. These link weights can increase or inhibit the activation state of adjacent neurons. Similarly, at the output of the neuron, there may be a limiting function or threshold, which modifies the output value or imposes a limit that must not be exceeded before propagating to another neuron. This function is known as the activation function.

These systems learn and train themselves, rather than being explicitly programmed, and excel in areas where solution or feature detection is difficult to express with conventional programming. To perform this machine learning, typically, an attempt is made to minimize a loss function that evaluates the network as a whole. The values of the neuron weights are updated in an attempt to reduce the value of the loss function. This process is performed by means of back propagation.

The goal of the neural network is to solve problems in the same way as the human brain, although neural networks are more abstract. Current neural networks typically contain from a few thousand to a few million neural units.

New brain research often stimulates the creation of new patterns in neural networks. One new approach is using connections that extend far beyond and link layers of processing rather than always being localized to adjacent neurons. Other research is studying the different types of signal over time that axons propagate, as deep learning interpolates greater complexity than a set of Boolean variables that are simply on or off.

Computational devices for biophysical simulation as well as neuromorphic computation were created in CMOS. Nanodevices for very large-scale principal component analysis and convolution may create a new class of neural computation, because they are fundamentally analog rather than digital (although early implementations may use digital devices). Ciresan and his colleagues (2010) in Schmidhuber's group showed that, despite the gradient fading problem, GPUs make back propagation feasible for pre-fed neural networks with multiple layers.

To start a neural network it can be either a code or a circuit arrangement.


Hardware-based Neural Networks using a Gated Schottky Diode as a Synapse Device​

Abstract:

A gated Schottky diode is proposed for high-performance synapse devices and a means of designing a neural network using this device is described. The proposed gated Schottky diode operates in the saturation region with respect to the input voltage and is therefore immune to input noise and enables accurate vector-by-matrix multiplication. Moreover, by applying identical pulses to the bottom gate to store charges in a storage layer, the reverse saturation current increases almost linearly. Considering these special characteristics, we propose an architecture that uses a time-modulated input pulse and a learning rule based on a single conductance step. A three-layer perceptron network is trained using the conductance response of the synapse device and unidirectional weight-updating methods. In simulations using this network, the classification accuracy rate of MNIST training sets was found to be 94.50%. Compared to memristive devices, the improved linearity of the conductance response in our device is evidence of its higher accuracy.

Implementation of hardware-based neural network using memristors with abrupt SET and gradual RESET characteristics​


Recent advance of artificial intelligence comes from the rapid growth of artificial neural network technology. Memristors play a crucial role in the hardware implementation of artificial neural networks, thanks to the multilevel conductance of memristors by switching behaviors. Here, we propose a synaptic device with a Pr0.7Ca0.3MnO3 (PCMO) switching layer which shows the abrupt SET and gradual RESET switching characteristics. Improved linearity of the synaptic transmission caused by switching characteristics can enhance the classification performance of neuromorphic systems.

The point I want to demonstrate here is that the supposed grail, independent of its external appearance, is how it can function by examining what its architecture might be.

What I am seeing is that if it turns out to be a crystal, nothing prevents it from having a printed circuit inside, capable of interacting with the quantum world and closing the gap between ER = ERP. That this circuit may be of the neural network type and that is important, because Ark in one of the questions he asked the C's they answered that consciousness is fundamental to the physics of the UFT.

Likewise, if the device supports a user who can project (focus) his mind and amplify what he thinks for a desired effect, this device in theory should have at the hardware level the ability to support a mind.

In another aspect, the device should be able to generate or be its own source of power, as can be the ark of the covenant.

So, we can speculate and think that the grail is an extremely powerful quantum computer that can hold a consciousness and generate enough energy to open dimensional gaps or connect with higher densities, just as the C's suggest with the cylinder.
 
I wondered about if the location was the actual Arcadia in Greece? There could be some mountain shapes in the Peloponnese ranges that fit these paintings?

For example:

760px-Mapcarta.jpg
I am sorry not to have replied to your post sooner. I think the short answer to your question is no. Nicolas Poussin was a Frenchman born in Normandy who spent most of his working life in Rome. I am not aware that he ever visited Greece but it is possible I suppose. It is more likely though that he was painting a mountain found either in his native France or in Italy where he lived. For reasons connected to his alleged Rosicrucian links, I think it is more likely France and more particularly in the Franco-Spanish Pyrenees (where, of course, the mysterious enclave of alchemists is located). This, as I will explain below, also links with your suggestion concerning Arcadia.

Poussin specialised in religious and classical themes. Most of his artistic patrons were rich noblemen and Catholic Cardinals and for a while even the Pope himself. However, his commission for an altarpiece depicting the Martyrdom of St. Erasmus, for the Erasmus Chapel in the basilica of St. Peter’s seems to have met with official displeasure and generated no further papal commissions. The Martyrdom of St. Erasmus is considered Poussin’s most overtly “baroque” work but despite its adherence to the pictorial idiom of the day, for reasons unknown, it met with official displeasure. This is very curious since Poussin undertook many commissions from the princes of the Church and would continue to enjoy their favour for the rest of his career. Did someone in the Vatican hierarchy spot something in this work that disturbed them?

Coming back to the issue of Arcadia, this is a topic that has been discussed frequently on this thread. The C's posed the question themselves:
Session 28 November 1998:
Q: (L) Okay, meanwhile back at Rennes-le-Chateau, there are these three priests and a bishop who have more money than they ought to have. Clearly, there is something going on there. My thought is, after analyzing it is, the purported ‘parchments’ found in the column of the altar in the church there, were never really found, that they and the purported code were both made up as a clever fraud; the whole thing was made up, yet there is a mystery there. I also think that the connecting of the Shepherds of Arcadia painting to that church, that area of France, is fraudulent also. The smokescreen is being focused there to keep it from being directed elsewhere. Am I on the right track here?

A: Well, quite simply we would say, where is Arcadia?

Q:
(L) Arcadia was Turkey. You have made many references to Turkey, to Troy, which was located in what is now Turkey. A lot of funny stuff tracks back there. And, Troy means ‘three.’ Interesting. [MJF: Compare Troy to "Trent", which also means three and can be an abbreviation for "Trident".]

A: Tis a clue for you, not a destination!

[MJF: Why did the C’s use “Tis” here instead of the more modern “this is”? Did they intend by this to point to indicate England and specifically Yorkshire and/or the Trent river (see my earlier posts on Bridget and the Celtic Briganti tribe who occupied that area of Northern England) or even Cambridge? Does this deliberate use of the older form indirectly implicate Shakespeare and Sir Francis Bacon and by extension the Philosophers of Dancar (Doncaster in Yorkshire), in whose time the word "Tis" was still very much in common usage - incidentally, it still is in the county of Yorkshire? Note also that at that point in time Laura had not yet read Iman Wilkens’ book Where Troy Once Stood, which placed Troy near to modern day Cambridge. Hence, she was no doubt following Schliemann's theory that Troy was located in Turkey after his major archaeological discovery of what he thought was the ancient city of Troy.]

Q:
(L) Well, can you tell me just exactly what these guys, these priests, were getting paid to do or not do? What was the money changing hands for? It was a lot of bucks...

A: Keepers of the guard. [MJF: Note this phrase is similar to the description of Nicolas Poussin title as a person who was a 'Keeper of Secrets'.]

Q:
(L) Guard of what?

A: Whatever was going on there.

Q:
(L) It seems sort of significant to me that, when one of them was getting ready to retire, he was brutally murdered, and seemingly tortured before his death, and the following year this Abbe Sauniere purchased a large tract of land. Was there any connection between Sauniere and the death of Abbe Gelis?

A: Not the point. What happens to those who “know too much?”

Q:
(L) Who was paying them? What was the source of the money?

A: Not available to you yet.
[MJF: And to this day I am not aware that the C's have divulged that source. My money would be on the Rosicrucians though.]

Incidentally, earlier in that same session, there was a discussion of clover and its connection to alfalfa:

Q: (L) That is an interesting thing. Alfalfa was named as the ‘father of foods,’ and was grown, primarily for, interestingly, horses! And, we have chevin and the ‘Horse of God.’ Anyway, one of the primary areas where this particular type of alfalfa was grown happens to be in Baden, right next door to this Horselberg... right off the banks of the Rhine. There is a valley there. Clover is, of course, a variation of alfalfa, and ‘dale’ is a depression in the ground. Could this be right there next to the location of the Lorelei rock off the Rhine?

A: Closer, and what of the four leaves? [MJF: Four leaf clover]

It just so happens that there is a "Coverdale" in Yorkshire (which takes its name from the river Cover but may tie in etymologically with "clover"), which may connect with the other potential references to Yorkshire in the same session through the C's use of the word "Tis". However, note they say, it is just a clue and not a destination, which seems to rule out Yorkshire as the possible Arcadia but may tie us into Sir Francis Bacon and the Rosicrucians and therefore by extension to Poussin and his painting. There is in fact a Cloverdale in British Columbia, Canada, which is a town centre in the City of Surrey, which is a south-eastern suburb of Greater Vancouver. William Shannon (1843-1928) was one of the first settlers to the Surrey Cloverdale region and was inspired to name the area from the clover that grew there in abundance. When I did a search on "Cloverdale", it kept throwing up references to Surrey in England for some reason, which happens to be where I live, perhaps because of its name connection to Surrey Cloverdale. In that same session, the C's added an interesting observation on one important property of alfalfa (clover):
Q: (A) One last thing: if I splice this picture, the Arcadian Shepherds, vertically, and try to align the two halves, what should I look for? [MJF: We have, of course, done this.]

A: That which is seen.

Q: (L) Do the properties of alfalfa tend to enhance the non-physical effect, or vice versa?

A: Maybe it enhances the “psychic effects.”

This reference to psychic effects connects back to the first part of the same session when the C's referred to consciousness and dreams:

Q: (A) Last time when we were talking, you made an essential division between the physical world and the non-physical world, ethereal world, the one which cannot be quantified. Now, I know something about the physical world, how it is built, and the main concepts of atoms and forces and so on. I would like to know what are the building blocks that describe this ethereal world. I am asking because you said that these two worlds can be bridged, if not united. In order to bridge them, I need to know something about this ethereal world. Where can I learn it?

A: Consciousness is in reality, the purest form of energy. The alter realm is composed of consciousness energy. To better understand the concept, one must utilize one’s memory of particularly vivid dreams, when one had the sensate of physicality in a transitory state.

Q:
(A) How to bridge the physical and ethereal worlds?

A: Gravity is the key. One must formulate an hypothesis based upon the quantum range of wave particulate transfer. In other words, where does the wave go when it appears to disappear into the very core of an object with a strong gravitational field? Pentagon, hexagon, you know?!?


We have been discussing quantum teleportation in the latest posts on this thread and the importance of projective geometry, so the above references to "quantum range of wave particulate transfer" and the "Pentagon, hexagon" (and thus sacred geometry) should be borne in mind.​

However, it is that question "where is Arcadia?" that is central to an understanding of the true mystery of Poussin's painting The Shepherds of Arcadia.
The C's gave us a further clue as regards the location of Arcadia in a session the week afterwards.

Session 5 December 1998:
Q: In response to your remark from last week, 'ever feel that you are dancing around in circles?' Mike wanted to know if this was a reference to crop circles?

A: No, not directly!


MJF: This could have been a reference to Stonehenge near which numerous crop circles have appeared in recent years and the ancient Britons/Celts were alleged by Roman writers to have danced all night with the god Apollo? However, it could also be to secret societies like the Freemasons and the Rosicrucians in the sense of moving in circles within circles. They are also adept at diverting people away (i.e., keeping them dancing in circles) from what is important - think here of the real mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau. Curiously, Poussin did a painting on the theme of dancing in circles called a Dance to the Music of Time (see below). According to his early biographers Bellori and Felibien, the four figures in the dance represent the stages of life: Poverty leads to Work, Work to Riches, and Riches to Luxury; then, following Christian doctrine, luxury leads back to poverty, and the cycle begins again. The three women and one man who dance represent the different stages and are distinguished by their different clothing and headdresses, ranging from plain to jewelled. In the sky over the dancing figures, the chariot of Apollo passes, accompanied by the Goddess Aurora and the Hours, a symbol of passing time. Let us also recall here what the C's have said about cycles of time. Apart from the classical references in this work, one wonders what Poussin may have known about such cycles. And, of course, we have another link to Apollo in the painting who, according to the English poet and mythologist Robert Graves, may originally have been a Celtic deity before being incorporated into the Greek pantheon (see below for comments on the origins of the Mycenaean civilisation and its connection to Perseus (Akhenaten and Meritaten's ancestor as the pro-genitor of the Perseid line)

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Q: Then, you also said: 'quite simply we would say, where is Arcadia?'

A: You need to work on that one. The answers to these mysteries are not easily solved, but well worth it!

Q: The chief thing I noticed about Arcadia was, the Arcadians were the enemies of the Trojans, they were the creators of the Trojan Horse - a huge deception... and the Celts are supposed to be the descendants of the refugees from Troy. And, when Hitler came along, one of his ideals was to resurrect Arcadia, and that Germany was going to be the new Arcadia and destroy the 'old corrupt civilization,' which was Troy. Troy is 'three' and is connected to 'Ilium,' and I guess what my question is here is: just who's on first?

A: Who is on second?

Now, if we follow Iman Wilken's theory that Troy was in England and the Trojan War was fought between Northern European Celts, this means that the original Arcadians, who were allies of the Greeks, came from somewhere in Western Europe and not the Peloponnese in modern Greece. Hence, the C's question "who is on second?" Mycenaean Greece (or the Mycenaean civilization) was the last phase of the Bronze Age in Ancient Greece, spanning the period from approximately 1750 to 1050 BC. It represents the first advanced and distinctively Greek civilisation in mainland Greece. However, Mycenaean Greece perished with the collapse of Bronze Age culture in the eastern Mediterranean, to be followed by the Greek Dark Ages, a record less transitional period leading to Archaic Greece. Various theories have been proposed for the end of this civilization, among them the Dorian invasion or activities connected to the "Sea Peoples" (who also invaded Egypt and Canaan at this time). Additional theories such as natural disasters and climatic changes have also been suggested. If we consider here what was happening in Akhenaten's Egypt and elsewhere in the Middle East at the time, where there was a period of general chaos (N.B. upsetting the Egyptian concept of Ma'at or balance) involving plague (leprosy), famine and pestilence, which may have been linked with the explosion of Thera
* that wiped out the highly successful Minoan civilisation based on Crete, which in turn could have been triggered by the last passing of the cometary cluster, then we get a plausible explanation for the collapse of the Mycenaean civilization.
* Q: Was the explosion of Thera the cataclysmic story later added to the Exodus?
A: Yes.

However, the Mycenaean period would become the historical setting of much ancient Greek literature and mythology, including the Trojan Epic Cycle. Indeed, this period was the inspiration for Poussin's painting The Shepherds of Arcadia (or Et in Arcadia Ego), based on the idyllic pastoral setting of a group of shepherds in a tranquil, archaic Arcadia. But if we accept Iman Wilken's findings then the Peloponnese in mainland Greece is clearly the wrong setting for the original Arcadia and the Mycenaean Greeks were clearly on second base, using the C's baseball terminology, where Arcadia was concerned. So if Arcadia was not in the Peloponnese, where was it?
Quoting from Wikipedia (Ref. Mycenaean Greece - Wikipedia):
The decipherment of the Mycenaean Linear B script, a writing system adapted for the use of the (Indo-European) Greek language of the Late Bronze Age, demonstrated the continuity of Greek speech from the second millennium BC into the eighth century BC when a new Phoenician-derived alphabetic script emerged. Moreover, it revealed that the bearers of Mycenaean culture were ethnically connected with the populations that resided in the Greek peninsula after the end of this cultural period. Lastly, the decipherment marked the advent of an Indo-European language in the Aegean region in contrast to unrelated prior languages spoken in adjoining areas. Various collective terms for the inhabitants of Mycenaean Greece were used by the Greek poet Homer in his 8th-century BC epic the Iliad in reference to the Trojan War.

Homer interchangeably used the ethnonyms Achaeans, Danaans, and Argives to refer to the besiegers, and these names appear to have passed down from the time they were in use to the time when Homer applied them as collective terms in his Iliad. There is an isolated reference to a-ka-wi-ja-de in the Linear B records in Knossos, Crete dated to c. 1400 BC, which presumably refers to a Mycenaean (Achaean) state on the Greek mainland.


Egyptian records mention a T(D)-n-j or Danaya (Tanaju) land for the first time c. 1437 BC, during the reign of Pharaoh Thutmoses III (r. 1479–1425 BC). This land is geographically defined in an inscription from the reign of Amenhotep III (r. circa 1390–1352 BC, who was Akhenaten's father), where a number of Danaya cities are mentioned, which cover the largest part of southern mainland Greece. Among them, cities such as Mycenae, Nauplion, and Thebes have been identified with certainty. Danaya has been equated with the ethnonym Danaoi (Greek: Δαναοί), the name of the mythical dynasty that ruled in the region of Argos, also used as an ethnonym for the Greek people by Homer.

In the official records of another Bronze Age empire, that of the Hittites in Anatolia [MJF: who Abraham/Moses descended from], various references from c. 1400 BC to 1220 BC mention a country named Ahhiyawa. Recent scholarship, based on textual evidence, new interpretations of the Hittite inscriptions, and recent surveys of archaeological evidence about Mycenaean–Anatolian contacts during this period, concludes that the term Ahhiyawa must have been used in reference to the Mycenaean world (land of the Achaeans), or at least to a part of it. This term may have also had broader connotations in some texts, possibly referring to all regions settled by Mycenaeans or regions under direct Mycenaean political control. Another similar ethnonym, Ekwesh, in twelfth century BC Egyptian inscriptions has been commonly identified with the Ahhiyawans. These Ekwesh were mentioned as a group of the Sae People.
The reasons for the end of the Mycenaean culture have been hotly debated among scholars. At present, there is no satisfactory explanation for the collapse of the Mycenaean palace systems. The two most common theories are population movement and internal conflict. The first attributes the destruction of Mycenaean sites to invaders.

The hypothesis of a Dorian invasion, known as such in Ancient Greek tradition, that led to the end of Mycenaean Greece, is supported by sporadic archaeological evidence such as new types of burials, in particular cist graves, and the use of a new dialect of Greek, the Doric one. It appears that the Dorians moved southward gradually over a number of years and devastated the territory, until they managed to establish themselves in the Mycenaean centers. A new type of ceramic also appeared, called "Barbarian Ware" because it was attributed to invaders from the north. On the other hand, the collapse of Mycenaean Greece coincides with the activity of the Sea Peoples in the Eastern Mediterranean. They caused widespread destruction in Anatolia and the Levant and were finally defeated by Pharaoh Ramesses III in c. 1175 BC. One of the ethnic groups that comprised these people were the Eqwesh, a name that appears to be linked with the Ahhiyawa of the Hittite inscriptions.


In Greek mythology, Agamemnon was the king of Mycenae who commanded the Greeks during the Trojan War. However, if we follow Iman Wilken's theories, then Argos corresponds to what is now Northern France* (where Poussin was born), which means that the Mycenae would have been Celts who were, of course, originally an Indo-European people (who would therefore have spoken an Indo-European language) who had swept into Western Europe from the East. Curiously, archaeologists note that the "Figure-of-eight" shields (the lemniscate again!) were the most common type of Mycenaean war shields but this was also a device used by the Delta Tribes of Lower Egypt, some of whom seem to have migrated to the island of Crete** around 3200 BC, perhaps fleeing Menes' conquest of Lower Egypt. So can the Dorians be equated with the Danaans, who apparently were Celts according to Wilkens? If so, then who actually were the Danaans?
*I
man Wilkens regards Argos as having comprised, in its broadest sense, all the Celtic territories from Northern France (extending as far west as the Gironde, northwards to Brittany and eastwards to the far side of the Rhine) down to the south of Spain, where there was a town of Ephyre in Elide, "in the corner of Argos". It was here that Helen of Argos, the beautiful queen of King Menelaus of Sparta, whose face (according to the English poet and playwright Christopher Marlowe) was famously responsible for launching a thousand ships and whose abduction by the Trojan Prince Paris led to the long siege of Troy, had her home. Interestingly, just as I had suspected in an earlier post, the present name of the region of Spain known as Aragon (where English King Henry VIII's first wife Catherine hailed from) is a modern day reminder of Celtic Argos, a name which meant "white" in the Celtic era, as derived via the Indo-European "argros" from the Sanskrit root word "rjra" meaning "bright" from which the word "argent" (Latin "argentum"; Greek "argyro") meaning "silver" is also derived. Indeed, the name of the country of Argentina means "silvery". The first use of the name "Argentina" can be traced back to the first voyages made by the Spanish and Portuguese conquistadors to the Río de la Plata (meaning "River of Silver"), in the first years of the 16th century. Moreover, in France even today, there are many place names derived from "Argos", including the Argonne region, Argouges, Arromanches, Argoeuvre and Argueil.

**Homer had described Crete as being a prosperous country but this would have been an impossible anachronism since we now know that it was destroyed at the end of the Bronze Age by the eruption of Santorini (Thera) around 1600 BC. Homer also mentions the Dorians as being among the peoples living in Crete for it is known that the Dorians established themselves in the Peloponnese and Crete long after the alleged date of the Trojan War. It seems more likely that they were a Northern European people, since place-names such as Doorn in Holland, Doornik in Belgium and Dorchester in England seem to evoke their former presence.

Quoting from Wikipedia again:
In Greek mythology, Danaus (/ˈdæneɪ.əs/,[1] /ˈdæni.əs/; Ancient Greek: Δαναός
Danaós) was the king of Libya. His myth is a foundation legend of Argos, one of the foremost Mycenaen cities of the Peloponnesus. In Homer's Iliad, the "Danaans" ("tribe of Danaus") and "Argives" commonly designate the Greek forces opposed to the Trojans.


It should be noted here that the Greek hero Perseus, who slay the Gorgon Medusa, was supposedly descended from Danaus through his mother Danae, the daughter of Acrisius, King of Argos. Perseus in Greek mythology was the legendary founder of Mycenae and the Perseid dynasty from whom Akhenaten and his daughter Meritaten were descended. This would seem to make Perseus a Danaan. Moreover, as I said above, the Sea Peoples would invade both Egypt (where they were defeated eventually by Pharaoh Ramasses III, who lived a few hundred years after Akhenaten) and the land of Canaan. Since Abraham/Moses' Israelites of the Exodus would seem to have been a mixed confederation of Semitic peoples, including Canaanites, it is quite possible that the Israelite tribe of Dan were also Danaans or the tribe of Danaus and there may also be a possible link between them and the fabled Irish Tuatha de Danaan.

Hence, what seems to have happened is that the legends surrounding the Trojan War (possibly the greatest conflict in ancient history) were taken with them by the migrating Celts and Trojan survivors to the Eastern Mediterranean, as they fled a natural catastrophe probably brought on by the 3,600 year cometary cycle, where these people would then relocate to new cities and give them the names of cities or towns that had been located in their former territories in Northern Europe. This would include cities like Mycenae, Athens, Thebes and Troy (or Ilium). Even the regional names of the Troad and Egypt were subject to this same transmigration. To make a modern comparison, if Britain and the United States of America were completely devastated (which is not out of the question at the current time of writing), then the American survivors in hundreds of years time might come to think that the legend of Robin Hood was based on events that occurred in America rather than England, since they would have learned the legend from American sources not realising that the story had originally crossed the Atlantic Ocean with their migrating English ancestors. The same is also true of Plato's story of Atlantis. And the same transposition is also true of the Mycenaean gods since, as a part of the Mycenaean heritage that survived their collapse, the names of the gods and goddesses of Mycenaean Greece became the major figures of the Olympian Pantheon of later antiquity.
In the 8th century BC, after the end of the so-called Greek Dark Ages, Greece emerged with a network of myths and legends, the greatest of all being that of the Trojan Epic Cycle. In general, the Greeks of Classical antiquity idealized the Mycenaean period as a glorious period of heroes, closeness of the gods and material wealth. The legends of Homer's Epics were especially and generally accepted as part of the Greek past and it was not until the 19th century that scholars began to question Homer's historicity. And so did Iman Wilkens.
Laura emphasises these same points within her article on Jupiter, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and the Return of the Mongols written in 2004, which I would recommend you to read for a better understanding. By 2004 she had read Iman Wilkens' book Where Troy Once Stood and would, as a result, take a completely different view as to where Troy had been located from that which she took in the session dated 28 November 1998. She sagely pointed out in her article that the reason for the longevity of place names in general and river names in particular is that conquerors generally adopt (but not always since she cites the example of modern Australia where this largely did not happen!) the already-existing name, although often modified or adapted to their own tongue. However, a major exception to this rule was Greece, where the invaders (Dorians), arriving in a country almost emptied of its population, gave new names to many places - names that were familiar to them, which would appear later in Homer's works.

To give but one illustration of this, Laura points out that Homer mentions a town in Egypt called Thebes, which cannot possibly be the same town we know of today in Egypt, since this was known during the time of the Pharaohs as Wase or Wo-se. It was only eight centuries after Homer that the Greeks gave it the new name of Thebes. According to Wilkens, the original Thebes was what is now Dieppe in northern France. Even the name Egypt derived from France, the original name for Egypt in the times of the pharaohs being Misr, Al Khem or Kemi from which the name of 'alchemy' derives. Its biblical name was Mitsrayim, which is still modern Hebrew for Egypt. Indeed, the official Arabic name for Egypt has reverted back to Masr since independence. According to Wilkens' research, the real Bronze Age Egypt corresponds to what today is the current French department of Seine-Maritime.

For those who have studied Homer's works, this process of name migration clearly had led to a very haphazard transposition of names where islands take the place of regions and vice versa. For example, the name Crete, which today belongs to a large island in the eastern Mediterranean, originally referred to the whole of Scandinavia according to Wilkens. Laura agrees with Wilkens that evidently there had been a general shift of Homeric place-names from western Europe to the Mediterranean after the end of the Bronze Age, which seems to have coincided with the collapse of the Minoan civilisation based on Crete and that of the Mycenaeans in Greece, as discussed above.

So where was the original city of Mycenae, which was the ancient capital of Argos? Well, the clue may lie in the name since it is claimed that the word "Mycenae" means "place of the mushroom". In Jupiter, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, and the Return of the Mongols, Laura suggested that Mycenae could be a contraction of a name meaning "Mysteries-on Seine" (the word "mystery" being cognate with the Greek word "musterion" which equates to secret), a place of Gnostic initiation. However, she thought that it was unlikely that the town described by Homer as being "opulent" and having "broad streets" could be the present day Mussy-sur-Seine, which is a small village about 40 km southeast of the town of Troyes, even if there is a phonetic resemblance between the names. Instead, she believes it is much more likely that Mycenae changed its name after the Trojan War to become Troyes, to commemorate Agamemnon's victory over the Trojans. The shape of Troyes is usually compared to that of champagne cork and is called the Bouchon de Champagne. Seen from above, the resemblance is meant to be quite striking. However, to Laura, the aerial view of Troyes looks more like a mushroom, which may explain why it is claimed that Mycenae means the "place of the mushroom". And it should be noted here that magic mushrooms are known for their psychedelic effects, causing a change in one's state of consciousness, precisely what you may expect during a Gnostic initiation or a ritual involving the Dionysian Mysteries (a cult tracing back to Mycenaean Greece and linked especially to the city of Athens. Dionysus, a Greek god and son of Zeus, was originally a god of fertility, associated with wild and ecstatic religious rites, in later traditions he is a god of wine who loosens inhibitions and inspires creativity in music and poetry (his Roman equivalent was Bacchus) whose worship entered Greece from Thrace, a province of eastern Greece bordering Asia Minor. However, according to Wilkens the original Thrace was Brittany in north-western France, which was a stronghold of the Druids, and the Thracians were the allies of the Trojans (indeed, the Celts of Southwest England and Brittany have always had a strong affiliation, which persists to this day). Thrace is also connected to the cult of Demeter as well.
Arcadia
Coming back to Arcadia and the Grail connection in Poussin's painting Et in Arcadia Ego, it is worth recalling here that Laura drew attention to the fact that the city of Troyes had strong links to the Knights Templar, who allegedly discovered the Ark of the Covenant and/or the Holy Grail during their occupation of Jerusalem and the Holy Land, since it was at the Council of Troyes in 1128 that the Templars received their constitution, drawn up by St Bernard of Clairvaux a relative of the Count of Champagne, which gave the Templars recognition as an official order of the Catholic Church. It was also Chretien de Troyes, whose patron was Marie de Champagne the wife of the Count of Champagne, who started the Holy Grail tales - Troyes being known as Bouchon de Champagne. A strange synchronicity you may think or a 'loop of connections' as Laura called them.

If we know where Argos, Thrace and Crete were at the time of the Trojan War, where was Arcadia? As Laura explains in her article, the royal family of Argos at the time of the Trojan War were the Atreidae after Agamemnon's father, Atreus who has usurped the throne from the Perseid Dynasty, who were the legitimate heirs. Agamemnon was the grandson of Pelops, a treacherous character, who having been driven from his kingdom of Lydia by Ilus, King of Troy, went with his followers to Greece (i.e., northern Europe). He became so powerful that he would annex many other lands to his kingdom including Arcadia. It should also be remembered that the Arcadians were allies of the Achaens (a collective name for the Greeks) during the Trojan War, which makes sense if they had been absorbed into the kingdom of Argos. If Arcadia was absorbed into the kingdom of Argos, this suggests that it was probably located in the south of France and north of Spain, given that we know Brittany was Thrace and the northern half of France was Argos. Hence, Arcadia, a name that would later be transposed to the Greek Peloponnese, was likely to have been a kingdom bordering both sides of the Pyrenees mountain range. Arcadia may possibly have incorporated what is now the Spanish region of Aragon but it could just as easily have been a separate region in its own right.

Hence, if the Grail has been hidden in this Pyrenees region, where Laura and the Chateau Crew are based, it can therefore truly be said to be located in Arcadia on this analysis, or on 'first base' using the C's baseball terminology, as suggested by the inscription found on the tomb in Poussin's painting, which reads Et in Arcadia Ego ("And in Arcadia I")? If this is correct, it begs the question just what did Poussin (the keeper of secrets) know? It was certainly something which enraged King Louis XIV of France, who was desperate to get his hands on Poussin's painting and which led the king to have Nicolas Fouquet imprisoned for life (he had originally wanted him executed).


Although this has been a long-winded refutation of your proposal that Arcadia was in the Greek Peloponnese, I think it has been worth looking at the ancient, and lost, history of western Europe since, as Laura hints at in her article, the Trojan War may have been fought over the Ark of the Covenant and/or the Grail, which could have been held at one time in Britain, possibly at Stonehenge or what was known as the Cloister of Ambrius, which the C's confirmed was another name for Stonehenge?
Session 19 February 2000:
Q: Was Stonehenge once known as the Cloister of Ambrius?

A: Yes.


The Cloister of Ambrius in Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae is a monastery of 300 monks on Mount Ambrius close to Salisbury in which the Saxon Hengist and his followers betrayed and slaughtered the British leaders. Bishop Eldadus buried the bodies in a cemetery there. Later Uther Pendragon and Merlin bring the stones of the Giant's Dance from Ireland and set them up as monument to the slain. Although this story is complete nonsense, it may contain an echo of a real massacre that once took place at Stonehenge, which may be hinted at in something else the C's said in that same 19 February 2000 session:
Q: I mean, there are stones just plain missing! Who could haul off such big pieces of rock?!

(A) You asked about these missing stones, and the answer was the multiple shocks registered. (L) Right. What about these multiple shocks. What, in particular?

A: Some were earthquakes; mini-cataclysmic in nature. Some were EM generated smashes, when terran forces clashed with outside "forces."

Q: Are you suggesting that some of these rocks were vaporized, as it were, by some sort of particle beam weaponry?

A: EM activity.


Who were these outside forces who clashed with terran (i.e., human) forces), who seemed to have high-tech weaponry at their disposal? Were they extraterrestrials or intraterrestrials?

So was the Grail or Ark once based at Stonehenge? If so, how did it get into the hands of Akhenaten? Was it through his forefather Perseus, the slayer of the Gorgon Medusa (code for the Grail?), who left his native Argos with Andromeda to relocate to what became Mycenae in Greece, where he established the Perseid dynasty? Or did Meritaten/Bridget/Kore bring it to Britain with her, thereby triggering the Trojan War? The answer to that last question may lie with knowing who the Dragon Slayers were?
Session 2 February 2003:
Q: (L) Going back to this person - the last living member of the Perseid family - who was handed over by Abraham in his Jacob persona to someone else, who was this person handed over to and why?

A: For protection from the fury of "Helen."
[MJF: Sarah/Nefertiti]

Q: (L) So, there is a reflection of that in the story of Hagar the Egyptian. Who was she handed over to?

A: The "Dragon Slayers."
 
First of all, every microprocessor uses silicon as its base. And silicon is basically a quartz crystal, silicon dioxide. I am not going to quote the whole manufacturing process of a microprocessor in the web, but you have to take into account that when you draw the circuit on silicon it can be a neural network:

Something I didn't mention (I try not to forget what's on my mind at the moment but in the end I forget something) is that in the wormhole experiment they used 7 qbits right? What they did was to create a -attention on this- a neural network that simulates the wormhole.

The thing here is that the neural network as shown in the screenshots generates these geometric figures. And those geometric shapes are the visual result of the neural network circuit design and the mathematics applied to the case.

Let's put the puzzle together.

A neural network (consciousness), geometry and mathematics.

When you look at reiki symbols, or kabbalistic symbols these are geometric figures that are supposed to interact with reality producing various effects. The C's have said that the reiki symbols act as circuits.

What is interesting now is to see that the order of the factors does not seem to alter the product.

Suppose our mind visualizes the geometric figure. That figure is the representation of the wormhole. Our mind which is the consciousness (or neural network) when it projects that figure could theoretically generate the wormhole. That is why I say that the order of the factors does not alter the product... in theory.

What I am trying to say is that the famous sacred geometry, are geometric representations that are both hyperdimensional aspects of reality (physical/quantum effects) as well as representing our mind's interaction with the building blocks of creation. As we are part of creation, those same building blocks are in our mind as geometric abstractions that rest in our brains, and their networks of neurons, officiating the totality of our brain as the antenna that emits and receives data (information field) in qbits.

Scientists from Trinity College Dublin believe our brains could use quantum computation. Their discovery comes after they adapted an idea developed to prove the existence of quantum gravity to explore the human brain and its workings.
If we reduce it even further, geometric figures are in a way the writing and instruction model with which the universe works. Only now we are beginning to see how these figures are related to the quantum world and general relativity.

One more thing to add, is that the wormhole article comments that the experiment is connected to studies of quantum gravity, a field that Ark is studying as well. Perhaps this is why the C's have led him to conformal geometry and algebra.
 

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Something I didn't mention (I try not to forget what's on my mind at the moment but in the end I forget something) is that in the wormhole experiment they used 7 qbits right? What they did was to create a -attention on this- a neural network that simulates the wormhole.

The thing here is that the neural network as shown in the screenshots generates these geometric figures. And those geometric shapes are the visual result of the neural network circuit design and the mathematics applied to the case.

Let's put the puzzle together.

A neural network (consciousness), geometry and mathematics.

When you look at reiki symbols, or kabbalistic symbols these are geometric figures that are supposed to interact with reality producing various effects. The C's have said that the reiki symbols act as circuits.

What is interesting now is to see that the order of the factors does not seem to alter the product.

Suppose our mind visualizes the geometric figure. That figure is the representation of the wormhole. Our mind which is the consciousness (or neural network) when it projects that figure could theoretically generate the wormhole. That is why I say that the order of the factors does not alter the product... in theory.

What I am trying to say is that the famous sacred geometry, are geometric representations that are both hyperdimensional aspects of reality (physical/quantum effects) as well as representing our mind's interaction with the building blocks of creation. As we are part of creation, those same building blocks are in our mind as geometric abstractions that rest in our brains, and their networks of neurons, officiating the totality of our brain as the antenna that emits and receives data (information field) in qbits.


If we reduce it even further, geometric figures are in a way the writing and instruction model with which the universe works. Only now we are beginning to see how these figures are related to the quantum world and general relativity.

One more thing to add, is that the wormhole article comments that the experiment is connected to studies of quantum gravity, a field that Ark is studying as well. Perhaps this is why the C's have led him to conformal geometry and algebra.
Where you say:

"If we reduce it even further, geometric figures are in a way the writing and instruction model with which the universe works. Only now we are beginning to see how these figures are related to the quantum world and general relativity."
does this mean that if the material universe operates as a sophisticated computer programme, where our computers work on a binary code basis, the universe works instead on a geometric code basis?

Although you have focused on the brain as a neural network, I seem to recall that the C's have confirmed that much of our consciousness resides outside of our brains. Hence, taking consciousness as a starting point, you may want to plug in some comments the C's have made about consciousness and gravity to assist your hypothesis and see what you come up with:
Superconductors and Gravity Vacuum

Session 15 March 1997
:

Q: (L) In the natural state, we know that a photon can have an interaction which causes it to split into positron and an electron. In the natural state, do electrons come from photons?

A: No.

Q: Okay. In the natural state, where do electrons come from?

A: Aether boundary with material continuum.
[MJF: Which shows that the C's accept the aether even if Einstein rejected it.]

Q: Where does the proton come from?

A: 7th density.

Q: So, a proton comes from seventh density, but the electron does not.

A: Not mutually exclusive.

Q: In a substance that conducts electricity, say an electrical wire, you have a circuit where, essentially, electrons get passed from atom to atom along this pathway. And, yet, they don't run out, and they don't really get used, it is only the resistance that causes heat that causes the incandescence...

A: Gravity centre of planet is also "window" to all other density levels and dimensional planes of existence, which is why electrically charged atoms "ground" in order to pass on to other planes through gravity binder.

Q: Getting back to my question of the passing of electrons along a circuit: what force is it that initiates the passing of one electron to another atom that manifests as electricity?

A: Electrical energy is merely "tapped," collected, trapped, then channelled.

Q: If it is tapped, where is it tapped from?

A: Collecting electrons.

Q: What is a collecting electron?

A: Not "a" collecting electron. It is collecting them.

Q: What is collecting the electrons?

A: The utilizers. Electrons are "free" energy.

Q: Okay, but where... I am thinking that in an electrical circuit, the electrons that are there, are the ones that are started with, the ones that are passed along, and the ones that are still there when the circuit is broken and the passing of electrons stops. Am I wrong?

A: Yes.

Q: Okay... then...

A: There is no beginning or end.

Q: Then electricity is, in essence, a flow of electrons?

A: Yes.

Q: You say they are tapped. Where are they tapped from? What is the source of these free electrons?

A: All materials. All matter. All aether.

Q: The electrons of the conductor itself are being passed along, and this is the manifestation of the flow of electricity?

A: Maybe.

Q: In what sense am I not correct?

A: Limiting concept to "conductor."

Q: Electrical energy will be present in everything. But in some particular substances, such as those things we call conductors, the electrical energy is, as you said, collected, trapped and channelled, which then is a useful activity because it creates light and runs machines and so forth...

A: Primitive.
[MJF: By this, I assume the C's are saying that our methods of production and our uses of electricity are still at a primitive level.]

Q: Okay. It is primitive. We understand that. When electricity moves in what would be considered a superconductor, how is it different from an ordinary conductor, such as a copper wire?

A: Accelerates flow, thus separating electrons, thus "exciting" process.

Q: What qualities does the superconductor have that contributes to this accelerating of flow?

A: Cycling magnetic pulse.

Q: What creates a cycling magnetic pulse?

A: Matter within gravity vacuum.

Q: How do you create a gravity vacuum?

A: In this case, it is created unintentionally as a byproduct of superconductivity.

Q: You said that a superconductor separates the electrons, thus exciting the flow. What do you mean by separating?

A: From each other.

Q: How is that different from a normal electric flow?

A: Not as widely separated.

Q: Is this separation of electrons a key to this process?

A: Yes.

Q: What additional conditions or qualities contribute to the separating of electrons?

A: Ask yourself now, what conditions define a superconductor?

Q: (L) What defines a superconductor? (A) Zero resistance. (V) Is that without gravity? (A) No heat. (L) How does one achieve zero resistance?

A: Artificial construct.

Q: Do you mean that it is an artificial idea, or that the only thing that would have zero resistance would be something that is artificially constructed.

A: Both.

Q: So, there is no actual possibility for a true superconductor with absolutely zero resistance? But that the resistance can be reduced to a very low level.

A: Close.

Q: Does cold necessarily have something to do with superconductivity?

A: What conditions exist in outer space?

Q: Well it is VERY cold... (A) It is almost a vacuum. (L) No gravity. (A) No, there is gravity, but only that. What I think we must ask is what is the relation between superconductivity and gravity. There was something mentioned... what was that about aether?

A: Nonmaterial realm of existence.

Q: (L) In other words, consciousness. Okay, you mentioned a cycling magnetic pulse that was an unintentional byproduct of superconductivity, and something about matter within a gravity vacuum... Could you define a cycling magnetic pulse?

A: Self explanatory.

Q: You said it was derived from matter within a gravity vacuum. Does that mean that superconductivity creates a gravity vacuum?

A: Yes.

Q: (A) Where? Within the superconductor or outside?

A: Within.

Q: (A) According to what we know, it also creates an electromagnetic vacuum. Is it correct that there is no magnetic field within the superconductor?

A: We have stated before that these two properties are interwoven.

Q: (L) Electromagnetism and gravity. So, if there is no gravity, there is no electromagnetism. But then where is the magnetic pulse?

A: Pulse exists outside of gravity vacuum, but within superconductor. Picture a tube structure.
[MJF: And a tube is, of course, cylindrical]

Q: Is the superconducting state within the gravity vacuum or within the EM pulse?

A: All inclusive. Normal structure for channelling electron flow within a conductor is a solid "tube," within superconductor, it is a "hollow" tube structure, thus evidence of vacuum.

Q: Does this hollow tube structure have any bearing on what you described as the separating of electrons?

A: It is a manifestation of same.

Q: So, in order to have a superconductor, one ought to have a temperature similar to the temperature in space, as well as possibly a chemical construction that is similar to the ambient properties of space, only greatly condensed, would that be it?

A: Close.

Q: (A) Do they mean there is zero gravity without superconductor? They say a vacuum which means what? No gravity?

A: Within.

Q: (A) No gravity within.

A: Not "no," just far less, and fragm
ented in nature.

So we have a reference here to a tube-like structure again. Carrying on .....

DNA as a Superconductor

Session 21 December 1996
:

(A) What is the function of DNA, other than coding protein production?

A: Conductor of electricity.

[…]

Q: (A) Is DNA acting as a superconductor?

A: Yes!!!

[…]

(A) Is DNA superconducting?

A: Variably.


Octagonal Geometric Model of Gravity and Consciousness

Session 10 July 1999
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Q: (A) Good. So, there are seven densities. Now, how come, there are seven, and not three or five, or eleven? Does it follow from some mathematics?

A: What form of mathematical theory best describes the concept of balance?

Q: (L) Algebra. (A) So, I had the idea that these seven densities were related to what Gurdjieff relates to the number of laws that apply in the various densities; the higher the density, the fewer the laws that apply, which means there is more freedom?

A: That is very close. Consciousness is the key here.

Q: (A) Yes, so my question relates to the geometric model of gravity and consciousness.

A: Picture an endless octagonal... in three dimensions.


[MJF: We see again here the importance of the octagon, which may explain why it was considered sacred by the Knights Templar who built circular churches based on the octagon, to the Egyptians in the eight-petalled lotus flower, to eastern mystics in the form of the Mandala and to others in the form of the eight-petalled rosette (which could explain why the Rosicrucians adopted the rose as their symbol). However, the C's are saying here to visualise it in three dimensions. But what if you were to project it into higher dimensions using projective geometry?
See also : The Rosette motif in ancient art – The Book Blog
]

Q: (A) A lattice, you mean?

[MJF: This reference to a lattice may tie-in with the concept that the universe is created in a fractal arrangement. I recall posting on this thread an article about scientists discovering that there may be a Dodecahedral space topology built into the universe, which could be linked to this lattice concept. Quoting from that post:

For the time being, I attach a paper with the title 'Dodecahedral space topology as an explanation for weak wide-angle temperature correlations in the cosmic microwave background' by Jean-Pierre Luminet, Jeffrey R. Weeks , Alain Riazuelo , Roland Lehoucq & Jean-Philippe Uzan published in Nature Magazine in 2003 for those who may be interested.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~pdb1d08/PHYS6005/dodecahedral.pdf

See also: Galaxy map hints at fractal universe
And: universe octagonal fractals - Bing video
]

A: Okay.

Q: (A) Are these densities related to the mathematical concept of 'signatures of the metric?' I would like to model densities with slices of different geometric properties, in particular slices with different properties of the distance.

A: Yes...

Q: (A) There are several people who essentially think the same direction as we have been discussing... they are almost on the same track. Matti Pitkanen is one of them and Tony Smith is the other. How can these two guys have these similar ideas without having access to channelling?

A: Who said they they have no access to channelling? Some channel without knowing it.


[MJF: This may help to explain why inventors, having no contact with each other, have often come up with the same idea at virtually the same time. There are so many instances of this that it cannot be mere coincidence. For example, both Alexander Graham Bell and Elisha Gray filed patents for the telephone system on the same day, even though they had no knowledge of the other's work. Subconscious channelling would certainly explain this phenomenon. See: List of multiple discoveries - Wikipedia for more on this.]​

The Octagonal Complexigram

Session 24 July1999
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Q: (A) Okay, I was trying to figure out how to build this expanded gravity, and I made a table to assist the question. The first possibility is that one can build gravity on a square matrix. This matrix can be symmetric, can be non-symmetric, or can be a complex matrix, which I call possibilities a, b, and c. The second possibility is to build a theory of gravity on the basis of a connection which looks like a cube rather than a matrix. Here we also have three possibilities: no curvature, but torsion; no torsion but curvature; torsion and curvature. These are possibilities 1, 2, and 3. Another possibility is to use any combination of these two lines of speculation. Another possibility is none of the above, but to build gravity on the basis of an irregular cube, or an irregular square, which I call A. Another possibility is to use something that is none of the above.

A: Octagonal complexigram. Try the formula for possibility 1-c first.

Session 28 November 1998:

Q: (A) Last time when we were talking, you made an essential division between the physical world and the non-physical world, ethereal world, the one which cannot be quantified. Now, I know something about the physical world, how it is built, and the main concepts of atoms and forces and so on. I would like to know what are the building blocks that describe this ethereal world. I am asking because you said that these two worlds can be bridged, if not united. In order to bridge them, I need to know something about this ethereal world. Where can I learn it?

A: Consciousness is in reality, the purest form of energy. The alter realm is composed of consciousness energy. To better understand the concept, one must utilize one’s memory of particularly vivid dreams, when one had the sensate of physicality in a transitory state.

Q: (A) How to bridge the physical and ethereal worlds?

A: Gravity is the key. One must formulate an hypothesis based upon the quantum range of wave particulate transfer. In other words, where does the wave go when it appears to disappear into the very core of an object with a strong gravitational field? Pentagon, hexagon, you know?!?
[MJF: Again we see a reference to geometry being linked with gravity.]

Reiki Symbol and the Crook Shape

Session 30 March 2002
:

Q: (L) Alright, do any of us have any questions we were planning on asking? VG has her questions. (V) I'll start with the Reiki symbol that we received once at a previous session. {shows symbol drawn on a piece of paper} This was the way it was drawn out and at the time it was drawn, we were told that it was close enough as though maybe it wasn't exactly as it was supposed to be. I am wondering if this is closer than this? (comparing proposed alternatives) In other words if the spiralling inside of the...

A: Match corners to outside spiral, neither inside nor outside.

Q: (V) Okay, I think I understand now. The other question I have about this symbol that I thought was very curious is in this centre part there is an L, is there any significance to that?...well, I'm sure there is significance...

A: Crook shape signifies movement into higher dimension.
[MJF: Contrast this statement with what the C’s have said about the shepherd’s staff/crook being struck by lightning and the shepherd is thereby illumined -"closes the circuit"]

Q: (V) Next question: Is repeating the names of the symbols, which I guess is like a mantra which is a no-no here, as effective as repeated use of the symbol? Does it go either way?

A: No. Important part is the geometry.

Q: (V) So the use of the symbol is putting a geometric equation into the person's body...

A: Think of it as soldering in a new circuit.
[MJF: An incredible statement when you think about it.]

Q: (V) New circuit as in DNA?

A: More like transducer of higher consciousness. If DNA changes result, it depends on the application.


Anyway, I will be interested to see what you can come up with by plugging these additional comments into your hypothesis.

Incidentally, the idea of a wormhole may be what really lies behind the spiral shapes found carved on rocks all over the world, although these are often connected to the Celts - sometimes they are depicted as the triskelion or triskeles, as shown below.​

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A: Accelerates flow, thus separating electrons, thus "exciting" process.

Q: What qualities does the superconductor have that contributes to this accelerating of flow?

A: Cycling magnetic pulse.

Q: What creates a cycling magnetic pulse?

A: Matter within gravity vacuum.
Here’s a model of what may be happening in the human brain that involves nano crystals of magnetite that are octagonally shaped, unlike others found in nature, they’re also single domain magnets and only become magnetized when an electron flows down the neuron. Since the crystals are arranged in a linear structure, that would essentially create a kind of magnetic pulse. It’s also states that this could change the shape of certain proteins, perhaps literally building your receiver as you learn. It’s fascinating stuff and definitely ties into some of the early sessions.


Confirms other things that the C’s have mentioned about magnetite too. Not necessarily related to Francis Bacon but relevant perhaps to other things.
 

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