AUTOIMMUNE DISEASES CAUSED BY AN INFECTION?

[monotonic]

That was a mistake, I meant to say sea salt.

 

[Altair]

So maybe some form of sulphur could be taken with iodine to clean up the halogens dislodged more effectively and conveniently than table salt?

Maybe. I started taking iodine today and will monitor my detox symptoms.

This person takes MSM with iodine and had no problems:

As for me, I take MSM and Lugols (since Feb) and have had no issues develop. I have no way to know if my ingestion of MSM for several years has influenced my benefits of adding Lugols to my daily diet, but I do believe that everything we do ties together, so... my 'guess' is YES.

http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=858163#i

Why not DMSO+Iodine? I found a guy who does exactly that:

The combination of Iodeene with DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) eliminates the tendency of elemental Iodeene to upset the stomach if these directions are followed: let no metals, plasticware, starches, or sweeteners come into contact with the Iodeene; consume this mixture on an empty stomach; followup at least half an hour later with Vitamin 'C' before consuming anything else; and use only distilled water and freshly squeezed lemon juice to dilute and improve the flavor. Consume plenty of fluids before and afterwards.

From video description: _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0fKGb6CcZM

His youtube channel _https://www.youtube.com/user/DMSOI

Sorry, I didn't have time to check his videos yet.

 

[Nienna]

Since I've just recently finished the autoimmune protocol, I thought I'd let you all know how it went for me.

I did the protocol for the 6 months, advised by a great physician ;), and I have to admit, those first 3-4 months were tough. Achy joints, exhaustion and several other herx reactions were pretty steady during that time. It did get better by the end.

But, I think it was worth it going through all of that because there were some benefits from it.

1.) My hair is no longer falling out and it was falling out a lot.

2.) I had a zillion seed-bead sized bumps/nodules/lumps under my skin, especially in my upper arms and thighs. They are now gone! I really wasn't expecting that. I do have a few larger lumps here and there, but I really have to hunt for them.

3.) I was taking Nystatin with this protocol and I did up the dose of what I was supposed to be taken by a bit, and it has worked, along with the other stuff I was taking with it for the same purpose. I no longer have sugar (sweet) cravings - and they were bad. It's, for me, sort of a miracle.

Anyway, with all of the herx reactions - which to me mean that it was really working - I'm really glad that I did it.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Thanks for sharing your experience and benefits, Nienna. Sounds like another worthwhile suffering for a while, then positive outcome....

 

[Konstantin]

I`m glad that you are feeling better Nienna. You have got a very interesting results after finishing the protocol.It needs a lot of courage and some suffering to get read of all those critters. Thanks for sharing . :)

 

[Foxx]

Sounds like a lot of positive results Nienna, so I'm glad to hear that it worked well for you! :)

 

[shijing]

Anyway, with all of the herx reactions - which to me mean that it was really working - I'm really glad that I did it.

That's really great, Nienna -- I know you've been struggling with this for a long time. I'm glad to hear this has been effective for you

 

[Oxajil]

That's great to hear Nienna!

 

[munaychasumaq]

Since I've just recently finished the autoimmune protocol, I thought I'd let you all know how it went for me.

I did the protocol for the 6 months, advised by a great physician ;), and I have to admit, those first 3-4 months were tough. Achy joints, exhaustion and several other herx reactions were pretty steady during that time. It did get better by the end.

But, I think it was worth it going through all of that because there were some benefits from it.

1.) My hair is no longer falling out and it was falling out a lot.

2.) I had a zillion seed-bead sized bumps/nodules/lumps under my skin, especially in my upper arms and thighs. They are now gone! I really wasn't expecting that. I do have a few larger lumps here and there, but I really have to hunt for them.

3.) I was taking Nystatin with this protocol and I did up the dose of what I was supposed to be taken by a bit, and it has worked, along with the other stuff I was taking with it for the same purpose. I no longer have sugar (sweet) cravings - and they were bad. It's, for me, sort of a miracle.

Anyway, with all of the herx reactions - which to me mean that it was really working - I'm really glad that I did it.

I assume the autoimmune protocol includes a detoxification of the body before, in order to activate the immune system.This cleaning toxic producing side effects with are really hard,but little by little your body will recover.The first months are the hardest ones...And you did it.
Congratulations and take care your diet.

 

[Laura]

I assume the autoimmune protocol includes a detoxification of the body before, in order to activate the immune system.This cleaning toxic producing side effects with are really hard,but little by little your body will recover.The first months are the hardest ones...And you did it.
Congratulations and take care your diet.

No, if you read the thread from the beginning, you see that this protocol consists of high doses of multiple antibiotics to destroy the infective agents that cause the autoimmune condition. I did it and I'm glad; like NE, I've noticed significant improvements. But it's a brutal protocol. You have to be pretty sick to be willing to do it!

 

[Chad]

From all the testimonies, it does sound like a one of the most brutal protocols: understanding what you're doing (glad you had a helping hand in the form of a physician), discipline adhering to the program, and then there's the suffering through it. Judging by your excellent progress though Nienna, it was well worth its while which is great to hear.

 

[LQB]

From all the testimonies, it does sound like a one of the most brutal protocols: understanding what you're doing (glad you had a helping hand in the form of a physician), discipline adhering to the program, and then there's the suffering through it. Judging by your excellent progress though Nienna, it was well worth its while which is great to hear.

A good book to read from the standpoint of a doctor practicing these protocols on his Lyme patients is "Why can't I get better - Solving the mystery of Lyme & chronic disease" by Richard Horowitz. I think Gaby summarized a lot of it in this thread.

And good deal Nienna! :)

 

[Nancy2feathers]

So glad to hear this news that you're feeling better, Nienna. I can only imagine what you and Laura and others must have experienced going that route!

 

[casper]

Since I've just recently finished the autoimmune protocol, I thought I'd let you all know how it went for me.

I did the protocol for the 6 months, advised by a great physician ;), and I have to admit, those first 3-4 months were tough. Achy joints, exhaustion and several other herx reactions were pretty steady during that time. It did get better by the end.

But, I think it was worth it going through all of that because there were some benefits from it.

1.) My hair is no longer falling out and it was falling out a lot.

2.) I had a zillion seed-bead sized bumps/nodules/lumps under my skin, especially in my upper arms and thighs. They are now gone! I really wasn't expecting that. I do have a few larger lumps here and there, but I really have to hunt for them.

3.) I was taking Nystatin with this protocol and I did up the dose of what I was supposed to be taken by a bit, and it has worked, along with the other stuff I was taking with it for the same purpose. I no longer have sugar (sweet) cravings - and they were bad. It's, for me, sort of a miracle.

Anyway, with all of the herx reactions - which to me mean that it was really working - I'm really glad that I did it.

I'm very happy for you, I wonder what on all this tells your doctor if he (she) is familiar with everything?

I ask because I am at the beginning of the protocol. Recently I was at my cardiologist on tests (a doctor is not familiar with my way of diet and taking supplements), he was pleasantly surprised by my findings in blood and urine tests, he said that I just continue taking "prescribed" drugs, because everything is all right ;)

 

[Nienna]

I assume the autoimmune protocol includes a detoxification of the body before, in order to activate the immune system.This cleaning toxic producing side effects with are really hard,but little by little your body will recover.The first months are the hardest ones...And you did it.
Congratulations and take care your diet.

No, if you read the thread from the beginning, you see that this protocol consists of high doses of multiple antibiotics to destroy the infective agents that cause the autoimmune condition. I did it and I'm glad; like NE, I've noticed significant improvements. But it's a brutal protocol. You have to be pretty sick to be willing to do it!

Amen to that!

I'm very happy for you, I wonder what on all this tells your doctor if he (she) is familiar with everything?

I ask because I am at the beginning of the protocol. Recently I was at my cardiologist on tests (a doctor is not familiar with my way of diet and taking supplements), he was pleasantly surprised by my findings in blood and urine tests, he said that I just continue taking "prescribed" drugs, because everything is all right ;)

I have several other "issues" with my health and although these things have remained the same, I am relieved with the results I have gotten with the protocol. That's why I am now using the iodine/iodide protocol. My doctor won't notice anything different even in blood tests because of these other problems so there will be nothing to say to her.

HOWEVER, because of health improvements with, first the paleo diet, and, then, the ketogenic diet, I am off 99% of the poisons these doctors have had me on. So how do I handle this when I see the doctors? I just tell them that I am taking their meds and leave it at that. I always try to remember that sincerity with everyone is a weakness. ;)

From all the testimonies, it does sound like a one of the most brutal protocols: understanding what you're doing (glad you had a helping hand in the form of a physician), discipline adhering to the program, and then there's the suffering through it. Judging by your excellent progress though Nienna, it was well worth its while which is great to hear.

A good book to read from the standpoint of a doctor practicing these protocols on his Lyme patients is "Why can't I get better - Solving the mystery of Lyme & chronic disease" by Richard Horowitz. I think Gaby summarized a lot of it in this thread.

And good deal Nienna! :)

Yes, I read that book before I began the protocol and Laura and Gaby suggested. It's not only very informative, but very interesting. As Laura keeps saying, "Read the thread/books before doing anything so that you know what you're doing and can see what others have gone through".

Thank you all for your kind replies. I really wasn't expecting them.