Bird Flu, Swine Flu, Vaccines

[Meg]

And more from Nordic Healer's post about Dr Carley's report http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9194.msg65901#msg65901

Thus, the autoimmune disease you develop is determined by which tissues in the body
are attacked by auto antibodies. If the inside lining of the gastrointestinal tract (the
mucosa) is attacked by auto-antibodies you develop leaky gut syndrome (which leads to
food allergies when partially digested food particles are released into the bloodstream,
are recognized as antigens foreign to the body, and elicit an antibody response against
those food particles that becomes heightened every time that same food is eaten and
released into the bloodstream partially digested again). Crohn's disease and colitis are
also caused by auto-antibody attack on the mucosa of the GI tract itself. If the islet
(insulin producing) cells of the pancreas are attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop
insulin dependent (juvenile) diabetes. If the respiratory mucosa is attacked by autoantibodies,
you develop "leaky lung" syndrome where, just as with leaky gut, antigensrecognized as foreign
to the body which are inhaled are able to traverse the lining of the respiratory tract,
causing the creation of antibodies against those antigens (usually dust, mold, pet or pollen antigens).
When these substances are inhaled again, IgE (the pathologic form of IgA created after corruption
of the immune system due to inoculation rather than inhalation of disease) acts as a reagin4
and sensitizes mast and basophil cells, causing release of their histamine and slow reacting
substance granules on contact with the allergen to produce constriction of the bronchioles
leading to asthma. This process is also responsible for the immediate hypersensitivity reaction
known as anaphylaxis, which is a potential side effect noted in the Physician's Desk
Reference for every vaccine; as well as the wheal and flare reaction of the skin known as hives.
If the components of the articular surface of the joints are attacked by auto-antibodies, you develop
rheumatoid (or juvenile) arthritis. If the skin is compromised on a chronic basis, you
develop "leaky skin" syndrome, where contact antigens which could not otherwise
traverse the skin lead to skin allergies to contact antigens (a delayed hypersensitivity
reaction where inflammation occurs due to release of soluble factors). Additionally,
depending on which level of the skin is attacked by auto-antibodies, (i.e., the epidermis or
dermis), you develop eczema, psoriasis or scleroderma. If the kidney tissue is attacked
by auto-antibodies, you develop one of the many types of nephritis, depending on which
component of renal tissue is attacked (for example, with glomerulonephritis, the
basement membrane of the glomerular apparatus within the kidney (which filters blood to
form urine) is attacked by auto-antibodies, thus allowing protein to escape from the
serum into the urine). If you develop auto-antibodies against thyroid gland tissue, you
develop Grave's disease. If you develop auto-antibodies against the tissue of the thymus
gland (which is crucial in T cell production and function), you develop myasthenia
gravis. If you develop auto-antibodies against the very DNA in the nucleus of all cells,
you develop systemic Lupus (thus, the autoimmune potential of DNA vaccines being
developed now is self evident; worse yet, DNA components from these vaccines can be
incorporated into your DNA, leading to actual genetic changes which could cause
extinction of all (vaccinated) life on the Earth, as will be discussed shortly). And on, and
on, and on.

 

[nicklebleu]

Hi,

Reluctantly got a flu stab about 3 weeks ago (due to professional reasons didn't have much choice to decline), and have been rotten ever since. First I had mild flu-like symptoms approx. 3 days after the stab, then got a bit better. Had a relapse around day 10 with mild fever, running nose, joint pain etc. but was unable to take time off (again due to professional reasons). Then got seemingly better again - and 4 days ago went jogging (CALL ME STUPID!!!) and totally crashed afterwards: fevers up to 39.5 degrees, rigors, dull pain in kidneys, acute bronchitis - the lot.

Now looking back I see a pattern: Whenever I have a flu shot I tend to get real sick for up to 4 weeks. No flu shot - I still may experience mild flu like symptoms once during the flu season - but usually they go away within 24 hours.

I searched the forum for related topics, the only one I could find was: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3761.0 which discusses deaths after flu vaccines. I think these are two different things - this may well be contamination that causes sudden death - while what I experience may be something much more subtle, more related to a general weakening of the immune system: What's the point to fend off influenza just to open the door to a whole gamut of other nasty bugs?

I have addressed this issues with some of my (medical) friends - but have met mostly ridicule ... (I'm getting used to this).

Have you guys had similar experiences - and does anyone have some literature on this, by any chance?

Feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

[mamadrama]

Only about 1,000 people die directly from the flu virus in the United States each year. While the government claims 36,000 -- the remaining 35,000 deaths are caused by diseases like pneumonia that may follow the flu.

But there's no clear scientific connection between the flu and these more serious afflictions. That means most of the time a flu shot has little impact in actually preventing death.

Barbara Loe Fisher, head of the National Vaccine Information Center, says that the repeated references to 36,000 seems to be an attempt to scare people into getting the shot. Fisher has a new book on the safety issues with vaccines, "Vaccines, Autism & Chronic Inflammation: The New Epidemic."

Her concerns have led her to look at alternatives. One alternative favored by a number of physicians is vitamin D. Dr. John Cannell, executive director of the Vitamin D Council, suggests the reason we even have a flu season is because our vitamin D levels drop, which takes place naturally as we get less and less sun with the approach of winter.

Cannell suggests babies get 1,000 units of vitamin D a day, and those 2 and older get 2,000 units. Many adults and some children need more than that.
Source:
CBN November 4, 2008

I'm not convinced all the vitamin D supplementing is efficacious, though.

Close to 150 million doses of flu vaccine have been produced this year, which is the highest number ever available. Yet, the chances of a flu shot being effective in any given year are about as high as your chances of pulling a needle from a haystack. This is because flu shots only protect against certain strains of the flu virus. These strains mutate rapidly, and scientists can only make educated guesses about which strains will be most prevalent this year.

As you might suspect, often they are way off base. As the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) states:


“In some years when vaccine and circulating strains were not well-matched, no vaccine effectiveness can be demonstrated in some studies, even in healthy adults. It is not possible in advance of the influenza season to predict how well the vaccine and circulating strains will be matched, and how that match may affect the degree of vaccine effectiveness.”


This does not bode well for the millions of Americans who are being lulled into a false sense of security that getting a flu shot is all they need to do to prevent the flu.

Flu Shots’ Poor Rates of Effectiveness

It really amazes me how effective the drug companies have been at manipulating the culture to actually let them sell these toxic, ineffective and expensive options in pharmacies, airports, college campuses, grocery stores and countless other outlets.

The truth is that:


• Giving young children flu shots appeared to have no impact on flu-related doctor visits or hospitalizations during two recent flu seasons, according to a study published in the October issue of the Archives of Pediatric & Adolescent Medicine.

• The flu vaccine is no more effective for children than a placebo, according to a large-scale, systematic review of 51 studies, published in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews.

• No studies have conclusively proven that flu shots prevent flu-related deaths among the elderly.

• A study published in the Lancet just found that influenza vaccination was NOT associated with a reduced risk of pneumonia in older people. Why is this important? Because 35,000 of the 36,000 “flu” deaths the government claims happen each year are actually caused by diseases like pneumonia, and NOT the flu.

• Research published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine also confirms that there has been no decrease in deaths from influenza and pneumonia, despite the fact that vaccination coverage among the elderly has increased from 15 percent in 1980 to 65 percent now.


I can’t imagine anyone signing up to receive this vaccine even if they were paid to do it, yet tens of millions are conned into thinking money spent on this shot is worthwhile! If people only understood the facts, I doubt many would rationally decide to receive this shot.

Sadly, throwing away the money spent on the flu vaccine is the least of your worries, should you decide to get a flu shot.

What Exactly is in a Flu Shot?

Before you decide to get vaccinated, it would serve you well to find out.

According to Dr. Donald Miller, MD, two-thirds of this year’s flu vaccines contain 25 micrograms of thimerosal. Thimerosal is 49 percent mercury by weight.

Each dose of these flu vaccines contains more than 250 times the Environmental Protection Agency’s safety limit for mercury.

By now, most people are well aware that children and fetuses are most at risk of damage from this neurotoxin, as their brains are still developing. Yet the CDC still recommends that children over 6 months, and pregnant women, receive the flu vaccine each year. This is just inexcusable.

In addition to mercury, flu vaccines also contain other hazardous ingredients like:


• Formaldehyde -- a known cancer-causing agent
• Aluminum -- a neurotoxin that has been linked to Alzheimer’s disease
• Triton X-100 -- a detergent
• Phenol (carbolic acid)
• Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
• Various antibiotics: neomycin, streptomycin, gentamicin -- which can cause allergic reactions in some people


How many people do you think would knowingly sit down and allow themselves, or their children, to be injected with:


• Formaldehyde?

• Aluminum?

• Mercury?

• Antifreeze?


It’s time word got out that if you got a flu shot, you did exactly that. And for what? Even if you get a flu shot, you can still get the flu, or flu-like symptoms, because it’s anyone’s guess which flu viruses will be in your area.

The powers that be have done an excellent job of instilling fear into the population so they believe that they must get a shot to stay healthy, but the simple reality is it’s doing you and your family more harm than good.

What REALLY Works for the Flu

Getting appropriate amounts of sunshine or UV exposure through a safe tanning bed (or taking a vitamin D supplement when you can’t get healthy amounts of UVB exposure) is one of my KEY preventive strategies against the cold and flu, as it has an extraordinary strengthening effect on your immune system.

Although supplements are clearly inferior to sunlight exposure or safe tanning beds, I am becoming more convinced of the value of vitamin D supplements as they are less potentially toxic than my initial impression, and they are certainly more convenient and less expensive than a tanning bed.

If you are in an area that does not allow you to get adequate sun exposure, and you don’t have access to a safe tanning bed, adults should take 5,000 to 10,000 IU of vitamin D per day, depending on body weight. For children, 2,000 IU per day is typically adequate.

For more information on this amazing flu-preventing vitamin, as well as where to have your vitamin D levels checked and how to cure a cold or flu with mega-doses of vitamin D, please read Avoid Flu Shots With the One Vitamin That Will Stop Flu in Its Tracks.

And, please, think long and hard about whether you want to waste your money on a toxin-laden shot that likely won’t work to prevent the flu. Personally, I have not received a flu shot nor had the flu in over 20 years because I use lifestyle strategies to keep the flu (and other illnesses) at bay.

The good news is that you can do them too, and drastically improve your chances of staying healthy right on through flu season:


• Eat right for your nutritional type, including avoiding sugar
• Get plenty of vitamin D
• Eliminate sugar from your diet
• Eat garlic regularly
• Consume a high-quality krill oil daily
• Exercise
• Get adequate sleep
• Address emotional stress
• Wash your hands regularly (but not excessively)

Hi, Nickelbleu.

I'm sorry you're having such an adverse reaction to the vaccine but it's no wonder considering what they put in those things. I had a flu shot 18 years ago and have never been so sick in my life so I can sympathize. Given all the toxins in the vaccine you may want to initiate a detox to aid your body in recovering. There's lots of great information on the Diet and Health board about detoxing your body. You may also want to consider a vaccination detox tincture to expedite the process. I've used one from Nature's Sunshine when my child was required to have a vaccination. It had these ingredients: chamomile, belladonna, tree of life, yellow jasmine, celadine, and silica which promotes liver function to assist in the detox. Hope this helps and you feel better soon.

 

[nicklebleu]

Thanks Black Swan for your kind help ... will definitively look into the detox remedies!

 

[Mountain Crown]

Some relevant reading:

http://www.sott.net/signs/signs_flu_supplement.htm

Regarding vaccination in general:

_http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020132sinclair/vaccinaion.htm

_http://www.squidoo.com/mdsspeakout

_http://vaccines.net/newpage114.htm

_http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web2.htm

 

[nicklebleu]

Thanks Mountain Crown - that flu vacc link is quite an eye opener!

 

[manitoban]

Hi Nickelbleu,

Just about every one I know who has had the flu shot, (most like you more or less required to get it for work) gets sick and then seems to be much more susceptible to getting the flu in the future. The whole thing has got to be the biggest con ever - inject mercury and other toxins directly into your bloodstream on the off chance that you might, (if they've guessed the strain right which is unlikely) avoid getting the flu! What I find so odd is how it never used to be a big deal to get the flu. You just got it, were sick for a week and then were immune to that strain. Now it's like people have become convinced that getting the flu is so so terrible that people must do anything they're told to avoid it.

 

[nicklebleu]

You know - I barely dare to say - I am from the medical fraternity ... but all this information is not available through "common" medical sources. I have long suspected the flu vaccine to be useless and have taken the (personal) decision not to get another one. But job-wise there is an enormous pressure to get the jab.

However, there are also proven benefits to vaccines - maybe not for the flue, but for polio or tetanus, or isn't there? Tetanus used to be a deadly disease, medicos today don't even learn the textbook versions anymore - its so rare.

Less clear-cut measles, mumps and rubella. Mumps is know to be detrimental to male fertility if contracted as a adolescent boy. Now I haven't persued the other links from Mountain Crown yet, but will surely do it very soon. I know that in this respect I am totally indoctrinated - to think otherwise is like getting skinned.

Very happy for any more comments on vaccines!

 

[nicklebleu]

Geez ... I had no idea! I have opend a can of worms!

Does anyone know of a good book as in a good overview about this topic?

I can tell you, that most "rank-and-file" medicos do not have that information available - they are as brainwashed as the rest of us!

 

[Jacques]

Geez ... I had no idea! I have opend a can of worms!

Does anyone know of a good book as in a good overview about this topic?

I can tell you, that most "rank-and-file" medicos do not have that information available - they are as brainwashed as the rest of us!

Another book to read would be Detoxify or Die.

It is not really about vaccines but about all chemicals that are in our body.

 

[nicklebleu]

Hey Namaste,

funny you should mention Detox or Die - I was just exploring the Magnesium Miracle, with frequent mention of this book.
Looks like another round of complete and utter change is on the horizon - will that ever stop? Just downloaded Laura's streamlined detox program, although I must confess - I don;t quite see the streamline ... seems quite complex and full or pills!

Running to the bookshop tomorrow - hope they keep that in stock!

Thanks for the tip

 

[Nienna]

Hi nicklbleu,

I have not gotten a flu vaccine in years and now I am refusing them when asked by doctors/nurses if I want one.

My ex-husband was terribly sick for several weeks after having gotten a flu shot. So was his brother-in-law. His sister, who used to be a registered nurse won't get one either.

Also, a fellow employee where I worked got a flu shot, within 2 days she was in the hospital in critical condition with lung problems. The doctors didn't think she was going to make it and had even told her husband that he should get a preacher in there.

She did finally recover, but it took her 3 months to fully recover and come back to work. Now she has been told that if she even gets a cold to get to the doctor's as her lungs are so damaged that she could go right into pneumonia.

fwiw

If you go to SOTT and search for vaccine you will find a plethora of information on them.

I have read in articles on SOTT that a some diseases were already on the decline when vaccines came onto the scene, but the pharmaceutical companies saw quite a profit and spreading the word that it was the vaccines that were the reason the diseases were eliminated.

 

[Jacques]

Hey Namaste,

funny you should mention Detox or Die - I was just exploring the Magnesium Miracle, with frequent mention of this book.
Looks like another round of complete and utter change is on the horizon - will that ever stop? Just downloaded Laura's streamlined detox program, although I must confess - I don;t quite see the streamline ... seems quite complex and full or pills!

I am no doctor or specialist but the author of the book explains it very well and in an easy language. And it is not full of pills, indeed there is no pills but you have to give to your body some vitamins and foods to help him to detoxify.

I am on that diet right now and may i say that it does work and clean the body. And not only physically!

 

[Erykah]

Have you guys had similar experiences - and does anyone have some literature on this, by any chance?

Hi Nicklebleu,
Just wanted to share a few books that I found really helpful when researching vaccinations for my children. Our family has chosen not to vaccinate our children and we wanted to be prepared with information to back up our decision. These books deal with the effects of shots on young children, they give specific information on what chemicals are in all shots. There might be some helpful information contained in these books to share with co-workers about immunizations in general. Hope this helps.

A Shot in the Dark:Why the P in the DPT Vaccination May be Hazardous to Your Child's Health
By Harris L. Coulter, Barbara Loe Fisher [ISBN 089529463X]
Published by Avery, 1991
This book 'Traces the development of the DPT vaccine, describes its risks, and lists warning signs that a child may be sensitive to it'

And another
Evidence of Harm: Mercury in Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical Controversy by David Kirby

 

[Mountain Crown]

Sources for inoculation research continued:

_http://www.vaclib.org/toc.htm
A comprehensive list of links under various categories including:
Adverse Reactions, Anthrax, Childhood disease, Vaccine Delivery, Flu, Genetic Information, History, Ingredients, Mercury and Thimerosal, and others.

_http://thinktwice.com/s_cancer.htm
Scientific citations linking vaccines and cancer- "...including leukemia, lymphomas, chromosome changes leading to mutations, and links between the polio vaccine, a monkey virus (SV-40), and mesotheliomas, brain tumors, bone cancers, and more."

_http://www.vaclib.org/basic/health/msg-vaccines.htm
From above mentioned source, revealing MSG as an ingredient in vaccines.

_http://thinktwice.com/Images/gsb.pdf
Clinical immunological study on Influenza vaccination and Guillain Barre syndrome.

The presence of endotoxin in influenza vaccines is a
serious cause for concern because it has been shown to
elevate antibody production to unrelated antigens. The injection
of only microgram quantities of endotoxin together
with a group of antigens into various species has been
shown to result in a pronounced increase in antibody titer. In
addition, it has been shown that endotoxin may increase the
permeability of the blood–brain barrier to allow circulating
colloids normally excluded from the brain to enter it [25].

The presence of endotoxin in influenza vaccine, because of
its ability to increase the permeability of the blood–brain
barrier, may allow proteins that may have deleterious neurogenic
properties to enter into the nervous system and,
because of its activity in elevating antibody production, may
contribute to the autoimmune conditions observed in GBS.

Therefore, the synergistic effects of endotoxin and vaccineinduced
autoimmunity may contribute to the GBS observed
in this study following influenza vaccination.