Since Alex Jones had advance knowledge of 9/11 (whatever that might imply), I'm wondering if it's possible that he's also kept in the loop with regards to swine flu.
Alex stated that the last time he broke a story like this, it was to warn of the 9/11 attacks coming. That was on July 25th 2001. This he feels is even more important.
He says that he expects the 1st wave to kill over 100 000 people, allowing the governments to fully lock down control, with troops on the streets, microchipping, FEMA camps in America and everything else that comes with fascism, that he has been warning us about for years.
Rather detailed... He's always been very loud, but I notice a new agression in him, screaming and shouting on his radio shows and talking of getting his family out of the US. This bewildered approach of him is making things worse in my opinion. He's turning into one of the biggest fear mongers of them all. I don't know. Something's off... I get a very grand finale impression when I listen to him.
Keeping an eye on US news reports, it looks like mandatory vaccinations might be on the cards for US citizens as well.
Alex stated that the last time he broke a story like this, it was to warn of the 9/11 attacks coming. That was on July 25th 2001. This he feels is even more important.
He says that he expects the 1st wave to kill over 100 000 people, allowing the governments to fully lock down control, with troops on the streets, microchipping, FEMA camps in America and everything else that comes with fascism, that he has been warning us about for years.
Rather detailed... He's always been very loud, but I notice a new agression in him, screaming and shouting on his radio shows and talking of getting his family out of the US. This bewildered approach of him is making things worse in my opinion. He's turning into one of the biggest fear mongers of them all. I don't know. Something's off... I get a very grand finale impression when I listen to him.
Keeping an eye on US news reports, it looks like mandatory vaccinations might be on the cards for US citizens as well.
Justin
Jedi Master
Jones always seemed like a fear monger to me...and one offering no solutions except to buy more of his advertised garbage. He's getting more aggressive in his speech??E said:
The fact that he is talking about getting his family out of the US should be a big red flag to all his supporters since he is such a fervent USA nationalist. Why wasn't he moving his family out of the US years ago if he was so aware of all the problems? Since "swine flu" is global, if there is a massive increase in its occurrence most countries will likely follow the US in terms of pathological policy...so moving out of the US will likely accomplish nothing to remediate the sociological effects. fwiw
Avi
Jedi Council Member
Hi E,
I am surprised to see reference to the Georgia Guidestones now as I've searched the forum a few times to see if the topic ever came up. I was moving at the time of your post, also about the time of that article, which I find interesting indeed.
The reason being that I've collected some information to go into the mystery as it were concerning these Guidestones since I find them to be quite compelling and may be crucial for people to WAKE UP! I have often wondered whether SOTT has considered an article on them or whether Mama Cass and Company ;D have considered approaching the C's on the subject?
(And if not there is a proposal on both accounts)
It may be they are NWO inspired, maybe not, I only know, from visiting myself, that there are discrepancies which none of the articles I've read consider. For instance, there are "typos" - which one would think of as clues if this happens to be a legitimate mystery and not a scam or farce. One also wonders HOW you can "typo" when engraving GRANITE! Considering the cost of $41 million in 1970's dollars I am quite convinced the "typos" did not appear by "accident".
Then there is the whole point surrounding the use of granite and references by RA, the Cassiopaeans, etc, which makes one wonder as there were painstaking efforts for detail and alignment with the stars. Lastly, the list of involved parties was an EYE-OPENER, for though I do not recognize all the names, I did recognize a few influential players, one of whom transcribed part of "The Labours of Hercules: An Astrological Interpretation" which is one of my faves. The association this writer was tied in with is another matter altogether since the TS is considered bunk here. I believe it is a moot point to argue whether or not it's been corrupted, for it has been corrupted, yet the origin is another matter.
Anyways another influential contributor is a linguistics professor, yet another was Mayor, whom I met once years ago though knowing nothing of the connection at the time! Look at the Guidestones PDF online for a list of involved people.
But what REALLY got me when reading this article is that, of all people, Jay Weidner is cited as the expert?! I have been through the whole saga a few times online relative to JW and VB vs. Perseus, etc, and well, it appears to me that those two had a huge vendetta, distorted views and are "dedicated to destruction" as it were. Which is very DISTURBING given the fact that both these yahoos are getting LOTS of coverage on History Channel, etc. Has anyone else noticed this? Seen Bridges or Weiner on TV in their erudite fashions of "I know all" describing what means what in the world? Anyways, I bring this up because JW is quoted in the article you linked.
QUOTE:
"Weidner also has a theory about the purpose of the Guidestones. An authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions that spawned the Rosicrucians, he believes that for generations the group has been passing down knowledge of a solar cycle that climaxes every 13,000 years. During this culmination, outsize coronal mass ejections are supposed to devastate Earth. Meanwhile, the shadowy organization behind the Guidestones is now orchestrating a "planetary chaos," Weidner believes, that began with the recent collapse of the US financial system and will result eventually in major disruptions of oil and food supplies, mass riots, and ethnic wars worldwide, all leading up to the Big Event on December 21, 2012. "They want to get the population down," Weidner says, "and this is what they think will do it. The Guidestones are there to instruct the survivors."
On hearing Weidner's ideas, Martin shakes his head and says it's "the sort of thing that makes me want to tell people everything I know." Martin has long since retired from banking and no longer lives in Elberton, yet he's still the Guidestones' official—and only—secret-keeper. "But I can't tell," the old man quickly adds. "I made a promise." Martin also made a promise to destroy all the records of his dealings with Christian, though he hasn't kept that one—at least not yet. In the back of his garage is a large plastic bin (actually, the hard-sided case of an IBM computer he bought back in 1983) stuffed with every document connected to the Guidestones that ever came into his possession, including the letters from Christian.
For years Martin thought he might write a book, but now he knows he probably won't. What he also won't do is allow me to look through the papers. When I ask whether he's prepared to take what he knows to his grave, Martin replies that Christian would want him to do just that: "All along, he said that who he was and where he came from had to be kept a secret. He said mysteries work that way. If you want to keep people interested, you can let them know only so much." The rest is enshrouded in the vast sunny stillness."
In other words, based on pure principle, I am apt to go in the OPPOSITE direction of what Weidner says or supposes. Yet the REAL issue is whether or not the Guidestones ARE in fact meaningful beyond gossip fodder or whether they represent further illusions and "dezinformatzia"? The messages themselves are pretty sane, for instance, "avoid petty laws and useless officials" - sounds good! Of course we wouldn't have many (any) officials left though, now would we?
As I said I am collecting information and forming ideas to discover, one way or the other, for since first visiting them I've wanted to explore them in a more scientific and cinematic fashion. I have limited resources though so if anyone here is interested to discuss ideas lets do it. :)
Kind regards,
Avi
PS - another quote from the article which is interesting given what has been stated by C's regarding "singing stones" and molecular resonance, knowledge, etc. I cannot recall the exact phrase I am thinking of just now so paraphrasing.
The quote is as follows:
"Those inclined to agree were hardly discouraged by Charlie Clamp, the sandblaster charged with carving each of the 4,000-plus characters on the stones: During the hundreds of hours he spent etching the guides, Clamp said, he had been constantly distracted by "strange music and disjointed voices."
I am surprised to see reference to the Georgia Guidestones now as I've searched the forum a few times to see if the topic ever came up. I was moving at the time of your post, also about the time of that article, which I find interesting indeed.
The reason being that I've collected some information to go into the mystery as it were concerning these Guidestones since I find them to be quite compelling and may be crucial for people to WAKE UP! I have often wondered whether SOTT has considered an article on them or whether Mama Cass and Company ;D have considered approaching the C's on the subject?
(And if not there is a proposal on both accounts)
It may be they are NWO inspired, maybe not, I only know, from visiting myself, that there are discrepancies which none of the articles I've read consider. For instance, there are "typos" - which one would think of as clues if this happens to be a legitimate mystery and not a scam or farce. One also wonders HOW you can "typo" when engraving GRANITE! Considering the cost of $41 million in 1970's dollars I am quite convinced the "typos" did not appear by "accident".
Then there is the whole point surrounding the use of granite and references by RA, the Cassiopaeans, etc, which makes one wonder as there were painstaking efforts for detail and alignment with the stars. Lastly, the list of involved parties was an EYE-OPENER, for though I do not recognize all the names, I did recognize a few influential players, one of whom transcribed part of "The Labours of Hercules: An Astrological Interpretation" which is one of my faves. The association this writer was tied in with is another matter altogether since the TS is considered bunk here. I believe it is a moot point to argue whether or not it's been corrupted, for it has been corrupted, yet the origin is another matter.
Anyways another influential contributor is a linguistics professor, yet another was Mayor, whom I met once years ago though knowing nothing of the connection at the time! Look at the Guidestones PDF online for a list of involved people.
But what REALLY got me when reading this article is that, of all people, Jay Weidner is cited as the expert?! I have been through the whole saga a few times online relative to JW and VB vs. Perseus, etc, and well, it appears to me that those two had a huge vendetta, distorted views and are "dedicated to destruction" as it were. Which is very DISTURBING given the fact that both these yahoos are getting LOTS of coverage on History Channel, etc. Has anyone else noticed this? Seen Bridges or Weiner on TV in their erudite fashions of "I know all" describing what means what in the world? Anyways, I bring this up because JW is quoted in the article you linked.
QUOTE:
"Weidner also has a theory about the purpose of the Guidestones. An authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions that spawned the Rosicrucians, he believes that for generations the group has been passing down knowledge of a solar cycle that climaxes every 13,000 years. During this culmination, outsize coronal mass ejections are supposed to devastate Earth. Meanwhile, the shadowy organization behind the Guidestones is now orchestrating a "planetary chaos," Weidner believes, that began with the recent collapse of the US financial system and will result eventually in major disruptions of oil and food supplies, mass riots, and ethnic wars worldwide, all leading up to the Big Event on December 21, 2012. "They want to get the population down," Weidner says, "and this is what they think will do it. The Guidestones are there to instruct the survivors."
On hearing Weidner's ideas, Martin shakes his head and says it's "the sort of thing that makes me want to tell people everything I know." Martin has long since retired from banking and no longer lives in Elberton, yet he's still the Guidestones' official—and only—secret-keeper. "But I can't tell," the old man quickly adds. "I made a promise." Martin also made a promise to destroy all the records of his dealings with Christian, though he hasn't kept that one—at least not yet. In the back of his garage is a large plastic bin (actually, the hard-sided case of an IBM computer he bought back in 1983) stuffed with every document connected to the Guidestones that ever came into his possession, including the letters from Christian.
For years Martin thought he might write a book, but now he knows he probably won't. What he also won't do is allow me to look through the papers. When I ask whether he's prepared to take what he knows to his grave, Martin replies that Christian would want him to do just that: "All along, he said that who he was and where he came from had to be kept a secret. He said mysteries work that way. If you want to keep people interested, you can let them know only so much." The rest is enshrouded in the vast sunny stillness."
In other words, based on pure principle, I am apt to go in the OPPOSITE direction of what Weidner says or supposes. Yet the REAL issue is whether or not the Guidestones ARE in fact meaningful beyond gossip fodder or whether they represent further illusions and "dezinformatzia"? The messages themselves are pretty sane, for instance, "avoid petty laws and useless officials" - sounds good! Of course we wouldn't have many (any) officials left though, now would we?
As I said I am collecting information and forming ideas to discover, one way or the other, for since first visiting them I've wanted to explore them in a more scientific and cinematic fashion. I have limited resources though so if anyone here is interested to discuss ideas lets do it. :)
Kind regards,
Avi
PS - another quote from the article which is interesting given what has been stated by C's regarding "singing stones" and molecular resonance, knowledge, etc. I cannot recall the exact phrase I am thinking of just now so paraphrasing.
The quote is as follows:
"Those inclined to agree were hardly discouraged by Charlie Clamp, the sandblaster charged with carving each of the 4,000-plus characters on the stones: During the hundreds of hours he spent etching the guides, Clamp said, he had been constantly distracted by "strange music and disjointed voices."
E said:
D Rusak
Jedi Council Member
Just saw this thread now...I've been away for a while as well.
I happened to be a visitor to Mexico (from the US) during the madness that was going on the last week of April 09. I was there performing at an international festival, which unfortunately had most events cancelled. To be honest none of us knew anything about it until we noticed all of the people at the soundcheck for our concert (before the festival was cancelled) wearing surgical masks...we just assumed the site was very dusty. None of my colleagues nor I were reading the papers, though. This was in Mexico City and we did see, in the copious free time that we suddenly had, many people wearing surgical masks as they went about their daily business. All of the hotel staff were required to wear one where we were. It definitely made for some amusing pictures. However, I agree with Cholas below that people mostly were not affected by this.
My group took advantage of our sudden days off to do some sightseeing. The tour guide we had also alluded to his feeling that Mexico's oil would soon be privatized. He told us a quite curious fact. Barack Obama had been a guest to Mexico a week to two weeks before that last week of April I was there, and while he was there, went on a tour with one of the gov't certified tour guides. The tour guide perished from a "sickness", which was possibly the "flu", almost immediately after Mr. Obama left. Our tour guide said that prior to this the Obama tour guide had no symptoms at all of disease, and that he felt this was a "hey, you guys better do what we say, or this will happen to you" sort of gesture. I couldn't find anything to verify this other than hearsay, however. Tourism he felt would be affected in places where Mexicans would feel it most- NOT in places like Cancun, Cozumel, etc. where the majority of businesses are apparently foreign (largely US) owned. Again, this is hearsay and I have not been able to verify this independently.
The one bright side to this is that plane ticket prices have been very low. I am keeping my fingers crossed that they will still be so in September when I may need to take an audition down there....
I happened to be a visitor to Mexico (from the US) during the madness that was going on the last week of April 09. I was there performing at an international festival, which unfortunately had most events cancelled. To be honest none of us knew anything about it until we noticed all of the people at the soundcheck for our concert (before the festival was cancelled) wearing surgical masks...we just assumed the site was very dusty. None of my colleagues nor I were reading the papers, though. This was in Mexico City and we did see, in the copious free time that we suddenly had, many people wearing surgical masks as they went about their daily business. All of the hotel staff were required to wear one where we were. It definitely made for some amusing pictures. However, I agree with Cholas below that people mostly were not affected by this.
My group took advantage of our sudden days off to do some sightseeing. The tour guide we had also alluded to his feeling that Mexico's oil would soon be privatized. He told us a quite curious fact. Barack Obama had been a guest to Mexico a week to two weeks before that last week of April I was there, and while he was there, went on a tour with one of the gov't certified tour guides. The tour guide perished from a "sickness", which was possibly the "flu", almost immediately after Mr. Obama left. Our tour guide said that prior to this the Obama tour guide had no symptoms at all of disease, and that he felt this was a "hey, you guys better do what we say, or this will happen to you" sort of gesture. I couldn't find anything to verify this other than hearsay, however. Tourism he felt would be affected in places where Mexicans would feel it most- NOT in places like Cancun, Cozumel, etc. where the majority of businesses are apparently foreign (largely US) owned. Again, this is hearsay and I have not been able to verify this independently.
The one bright side to this is that plane ticket prices have been very low. I am keeping my fingers crossed that they will still be so in September when I may need to take an audition down there....
cholas said:
I see France is also purchasing venom from, amongst others, the now notorious Baxter:
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/07/09/afx6636909.html
100 million doses for a population of 64 million? ... okay ... someone's having their pockets lined...
If you click on the Baxter link in the article I provided, you can see how nicely their shares are doing.
I particularly like this sentence in the Bax company profile on the stock exchange:
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2009/07/09/afx6636909.html
100 million doses for a population of 64 million? ... okay ... someone's having their pockets lined...
If you click on the Baxter link in the article I provided, you can see how nicely their shares are doing.
I particularly like this sentence in the Bax company profile on the stock exchange:
I agree...E said:
I can't help thinking that this is what this is really about. And also potentially undermining people's health. Having read Dr Mercola's article and others that suspect that it may be an engineered disease and reading the results of paralysis and Guillain-Barre syndrome due to the 1976 vaccine, I also cannot help feeling deeply suspicious.
I'm not sure whether SOTT has covered this, but there are now plans in the UK to vaccinate the whole population, see:
_http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/plan-to-vaccinate-uk-population-against-swine-flu-1742907.html
As far as I'm aware, the Obama Administration is planning a multi-billion project to vaccinate the US.
I am presuming this will all be mandatory. How can we protect ourselves?
When I read stuff like this, I can't help thinking that the more sinister agendas are picking up pace...
[quote author=Inti]
reading the results of paralysis and Guillain-Barre syndrome due to the 1976 vaccine
[/quote]
I found this 16 min episode called Swine Flu 1976 & Propaganda.
It's about the propaganda back then, and the victims with neurological damage and paralysis seeking compensation from the government. They interview the man who was the head of the CDC (Centre for Disease Control) in Atlanta back then, who devised and pushed the swine flu program. Sick.
reading the results of paralysis and Guillain-Barre syndrome due to the 1976 vaccine
[/quote]
I found this 16 min episode called Swine Flu 1976 & Propaganda.
It's about the propaganda back then, and the victims with neurological damage and paralysis seeking compensation from the government. They interview the man who was the head of the CDC (Centre for Disease Control) in Atlanta back then, who devised and pushed the swine flu program. Sick.
mada85
The Cosmic Force
Nathancat7 said:
I think this is going to pose quite a dilemma for many people. For example, the nature of some jobs makes it quite likely that an employer will require their staff to have a swine flu vaccination. At the same time, those who are required to be vaccinated may not want to lose their jobs, especially with the job market in the dire straits it is currently. Even where they do not want to be vaccinated.
Seems like the options are becoming fewer:
a) have the flu vaccine so as to keep your job, and do your best to detox your body in order to help cope with any effects of the vaccine,
or
b) refuse the flu vaccine, possibly lose your job as a result, then later have the vaccine forcibly administered, if things pan out as the signs suggest and flu vaccines are made mandatory.
Everyone I talk to about this on a daily basis is oblivious to the dangers of vaccines – they completely believe that big pharma makes products that promote health and well-being. I was also told recently that a UK newspaper article had said that a) there was no herbal treatment for swine flu, and b) that any vitamin supplements are never as good as the naturally occurring substance, implying that one shouldn’t bother with them – at least that was the impression my informant gained from the article.
This article _http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6694046.ece on today’s UK Times website says:
Psalehesost
The Living Force
It might be a good idea to keep an eye on the level of propaganda for the vaccine precisely to evaluate the likeliness of it being forced; if a very large amount of effort is put into a massive propaganda drive for the vaccine, then there is still the possibility of an attempt to widely convince people to have it willingly, forced vaccination being a "plan B" in case such efforts fail on as large a scale as is wanted, but if such efforts remain moderate, forced vaccination will probably be pending from the beginning. OSIT.
EDIT: Scratch that - probably just wishful thinking and trying to imagine possibilities for it all to turn out "better". No other aspect of the horror of the situation as of now is touching my psyche as deeply as this.
EDIT: Scratch that - probably just wishful thinking and trying to imagine possibilities for it all to turn out "better". No other aspect of the horror of the situation as of now is touching my psyche as deeply as this.
Some items that came up when searching for possible exemptions:
Flu Vaccine Mandatory For New Jersey Children
_http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/Flu-Vaccine-Mandatory-For-New-Jersey-Children.aspx?googleid=254536
Mandatory Flu Vaccine for Preschoolers in N.J. Causes Outrage
_http://www.topnews.in/usa/mandatory-flu-vaccine-preschoolers-n-j-causes-outrage-21856
Religious exemption for flu shot?
_http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=986988
Swine Flu Vaccine: Will We Have A Choice?
_http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/June-2009/Swine-Flu-Vaccine--Will-We-Have-A-Choice--by-Barba.aspx
Flu Vaccine
_http://www.hapihealth.com/flu-vaccine.html
Ya'll see if you can find anything on exemptions.
Flu Vaccine Mandatory For New Jersey Children
_http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/Flu-Vaccine-Mandatory-For-New-Jersey-Children.aspx?googleid=254536
Mandatory Flu Vaccine for Preschoolers in N.J. Causes Outrage
_http://www.topnews.in/usa/mandatory-flu-vaccine-preschoolers-n-j-causes-outrage-21856
Religious exemption for flu shot?
_http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=986988
Swine Flu Vaccine: Will We Have A Choice?
_http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/June-2009/Swine-Flu-Vaccine--Will-We-Have-A-Choice--by-Barba.aspx
Flu Vaccine
_http://www.hapihealth.com/flu-vaccine.html
Ya'll see if you can find anything on exemptions.
Laura said:
For Texas:
edit, comment. Do all of the nay say'ers wind up on a list for the PTB? :/
http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/texas.aspx
Minors:
http://www.vaccineinfo.net/exemptions/index.shtml
edit, found one link that has links for all US States and Canada.
http://www.unhinderedliving.com/statevaccexemp.html
