Boardlurker? Read this!!

Hi zhenqing. As others have said, your English is excellent.

It’s wonderful you have overcome your fear and have jumped in. Believe me, the rewards are well worth it!

Have you started to do the Éiriú Eolas breathing programme yet? Or the changes discussed on the forum about Diet and Health?

I think you’ll find the Éiriú Eolas does wonders in helping us confront our fears.
 
Thank you Vulcan for this post!! I am relieved to hear that many others feel the same way I do, and this has given me the drive to put my thoughts in writing. This is another example of how fear holds me back and delays my learning progress. :headbash:

Being a newbie, and reading many threads on this forum, admittedly felt a little intimidated by the amount of knowledge out there, and that my contribution would be invalid to most. After reading the thoughts and concerns of others on this thread, I have realized how silly this way of thinking is, as I am denying the rest of the members a chance to understand, learn and add to my experiences and conclusions. I had unknowingly taken the choice away from others to decide for themselves what to do with the information I provide as well as denying myself the learning experience that comes with networking. I get that now!!!

So expect to hear more from me in the near future, even putting this post in writing has made me feel better, and will hopefully will encourage someone else to do likewise.

Thanks again!! :flowers:
 
zhenqing said:
Saying this, I must confess I did not believed much in networking. I thought that doing the Work alone will provide me with all necessary tools and I don't need other people. I was severely wrong (though it's another story why I come to this conclusion). I finally realize that all my life I missed the feeling of being part of group, which support each other, care about each other, and what's the most important - pursue the same objective. And I really need someone, who can show me (with as much objectivity as he can) rights and wrongs of my thinking. I obviously can't do it alone. And if - while still learning myself - I could somehow help other people, it would make me truly happy.
Hi zheging.
I also thought the same, but now I realize that this is one of the mistakes people make when embarking on the road.
 
anart said:
Your story is so familiar to most of us because we've lived it as well. Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to share it with us! :)

Thank you, anart for your encouraging words.
Reading stories shared by other members, I can see that indeed, we've all lived through many difficulties. Some of us (and I don't have myself in mind) had it even harder than others. But we all are here. We and can share our experiences with each other, learn from each other. That's truly amazing.

herondancer said:
zhenqing said:
Saying this, I must confess I did not believed much in networking. I thought that doing the Work alone will provide me with all necessary tools and I don't need other people. I was severely wrong (though it's another story why I come to this conclusion).

If you would like to share your story about networking, we'd love to hear it.

I can share it :) It is a little weird, though.
About year ago, maybe less I started to clean my body from candida albicans. I've always had some problems with my health, but they intensified after year of taking chemotherapy. And if that wasn't enough, not long after that I realized I have depression (I was eighteen at that time). I tried various diets and treatments, I've visited psychologists but nothing really worked for me. Of course I had some happier moments, especially when I discovered Cassiopaea materal, but then there were those months of suffering and mental pain, when I just would crawl in my bed and wanted to slide into oblivion. But still, I've never wanted to kill myself. Ever.

Everything went a little better, when I started candida treatment. I was more active in doing Work, I even engage myself in a little translation work for Polish version of Cassiopaea - it was my first real contribution and it felt wonderful. I spent hours on reading books and articles and still had energy for more. And I thought, well, it's going to be only better. I also believed I had enough knowledge and it would prevent predator mind from taking charge of me again. I was so wrong. One day, I woke up feeling absolutely morbid. Just like that, after weeks of absolute fulfillment. It was like someone turn on some switch. It was so sudden and I couldn't fought it. I lost all motivation I had. I returned to eating gluten and sweets, because, well, nothing really mattered anymore. I could not bring myself to even read SOTT again. Being alive in this awful world hurt me so much I couldn't bear it. I would spend all days watching some TV shows or films or reading easy books ans I was sinking more and more each day.

Finally after months of doing so, it was it. I just couldn't care less anymore. I thought maybe it was the time I should search for some handy pills that would help me leave for good. But even while feeling so dreadful, there was this little voice in my head that keep telling me: fight it, you can't die now, you know it. You were born here for something and you far from achieving it. Are you really going to give up? So, every day, mostly before going to bed I would pray to any STO force that could hear me and asked for their help. And I received their help. Or so I think.

One night - it was end of February - I had this vivid dream. In this dream I was one of the participants of some weird survival school, but no one was giving me any chance (not only of wining, even of passing the first stage). I could feel I was object of scrutiny coming from The Observers, fairly invisible tall gray figures, who were in charge of everything. But then, my wish to be alive was so strong, surprisingly for them not only I survived, I become the most determined person in the group, some kind of a leader.

After that, Their attitude towards me changed (I could somehow read Their thoughts, like in telepathy). I understood, that for some obscure reason, They wanted me to win. One of Their human looking agent came to me before the last stage (which all were some kind of a test) and told me how to win. I knew it was suspicious but I also knew if I don't win, I was going to die. That was the stake of this game. So I passed the last stage, but then it all went wrong. The human agent told me before, that I must be the first one that will reach the platform, where one of the tall gray figure of The Observer stood. But I wasn't the first. When I was busy fighting obstacles, the remain participants (those who survive the game, that is) outrun me, so I was actually the last person that reach it.

The place wasn't like anything I've ever seen before, maybe only in sci-fi movies. Beside The Observer, there were other beings on that platform. Three human figures joined with the ceiling through the three long, bizarre looking cables. Every now and then, there were impulses going through those cables and then those men were trembling like in epileptic seizure, screaming noiselessly. It was awful.

The Observer spoke and tell us about our reward. Each one of us were supposed to pull out one straw. There was only one straw, which guarantee its owner a prize - absolute Enlightenment. The person who will pull out that one gain knowledge about everything that exist. But those, who would pull out the wrong one, they gain nothing but endless torture (like three men in the podium). But we had a choice. We could refuse participating in that final game and just leave. I was totally surprised when no one before me took that chance. One after another they took their straws and disappear somewhere. Standing there, I had strong gut feeling that the last straw would be the right one. But the more I thought about it, the more I knew I would not take the chance. I didn't want the Enlightenment. I didn't think I would even survive it. All I wanted was strength and I gained it trough my own experience, while fighting for my life. Maybe, I thought, maybe those three tortured man wasn't even the losers. Maybe they were the winners.

When I woke up from that dream I was changed. Like those months of suffering have never happened at all. But they did happen. And I surely learned from it. It was the first call to begin the networking, though not conscious yet. I needed a bigger push and it was this thread that did that for me.

That's the story. More or less :)

Galahad said:
Have you started to do the Éiriú Eolas breathing programme yet? Or the changes discussed on the forum about Diet and Health?

I think you’ll find the Éiriú Eolas does wonders in helping us confront our fears.

No, not yet. I only started doing belly breathing and pipe breathing, but I'm not certain I'm doing the latter right. I guess I will read Éiriú Eolas FAQ and maybe I will work that out.

It's weird, but every time I'm thinking about doing ÉE I feel that huge mental block. Like I don't believe I can do it, even though others did and reported some great effects. I guess it's the predator mind talking.
I have a question: can I do ÉE while having plaster cast on my leg? I'm kind of immobilized right now...

As for diet, I'm still stying to get back to my candida cleansing one...


Thank you all, who answering to my post. I was surprised when everyone of you seemed to found my english good. I think it's bearable at best, but I'm trying, and I hope I will be better in expressing myself in the future.
 
zhenqing said:
Thank you all, who answering to my post. I was surprised when everyone of you seemed to found my english good. I think it's bearable at best, but I'm trying, and I hope I will be better in expressing myself in the future.

Hi,

Your english is fine, but if you could please break up your posts into paragraphs a little more, they would be easier to read. :)
 
Mrs. Peel,

Yeah, I'm sorry. We Poles rarely break texts into this kind of paragraphs. That's why I don't have that habit :)

I would gladly modify my post above, but I can't figure out how to do it.
 
zhenqing said:
Mrs. Peel,

Yeah, I'm sorry. We Poles rarely break texts into this kind of paragraphs. That's why I don't have that habit :)

I would gladly modify my post above, but I can't figure out how to do it.

Hi,

it's okay, I think you have to have a certain number of posts to be able to modify... I took the liberty of breaking it up a bit. If you don't agree with my adjustments, let me know and I'll redo it. :)
 
z said:
It's weird, but every time I'm thinking about doing ÉE I feel that huge mental block. Like I don't believe I can do it, even though others did and reported some great effects. I guess it's the predator mind talking.
I have a question: can I do ÉE while having plaster cast on my leg? I'm kind of immobilized right now...

Yes, you can do the EE while in a cast. The important thing is to be comfortable, so you can do it in whatever position works for you.

And if you could get through the adventures in your dream, you should be able to do EE. :)
 
zhenqing said:
...[Snip] But we had a choice. We could refuse participating in that final game and just leave. I was totally surprised when no one before me took that chance. One after another they took their straws and disappear somewhere. Standing there, I had strong gut feeling that the last straw would be the right one. But the more I thought about it, the more I knew I would not take the chance. I didn't want the Enlightenment. I didn't think I would even survive it. All I wanted was strength and I gained it trough my own experience, while fighting for my life. Maybe, I thought, maybe those three tortured man wasn't even the losers. Maybe they were the winners.

A very powerful dream!
And this line about not refusing to participating in a game... that has been a recurring thought pattern for me for many years that creeps up into my conscious mind and sometimes invades my daydreams. I often feel there are games masters offering us games and false choices: I find myself desiring to seek another choice that is not offered by them. For example society offers all kinds of false choices about how we should live and believe, but I want to choose ways of living and believing according to my own experiences and that are most suitable for me: not what I am told is suitable. I don't know if that that makes any sense.


Anyways, I have been having a great deal of trouble keeping up with the posts that appear on the forum myself, and I read this thread this morning and I had to comment and say that I appreciated your posting!

_Breton_
 
Mrs. Peel said:
I took the liberty of breaking it up a bit. If you don't agree with my adjustments, let me know and I'll redo it. :)

No, It's perfectly fine. Thank you.

Galahad said:
And if you could get through the adventures in your dream, you should be able to do EE. :)

When I am dreaming, everything seems easier, but you are right - I should be able to do it if I put my mind to it.
Also, thank you for answering my question.

Breton said:
And this line about not refusing to participating in a game... that has been a recurring thought pattern for me for many years that creeps up into my conscious mind and sometimes invades my daydreams. I often feel there are games masters offering us games and false choices: I find myself desiring to seek another choice that is not offered by them. For example society offers all kinds of false choices about how we should live and believe, but I want to choose ways of living and believing according to my own experiences and that are most suitable for me: not what I am told is suitable. I don't know if that that makes any sense.

It makes perfect sense. I know what you mean.
Although, while dreaming I never face this kind of choice before. For years I dreamed about all sorts of 'scary monsters and super creeps', who chased me or wanted to hurt me, all kind of survival games. But this one was different, more complex. It wasn't only about getting out alive.

Breton said:
Anyways, I have been having a great deal of trouble keeping up with the posts that appear on the forum myself, and I read this thread this morning and I had to comment and say that I appreciated your posting!

Thank you so much! For taking your time to read it, and for posting you thoughts.
 
Thanks vulcan59. I guess that, in the end, as the Cs say. NObody is a NObody. Everyone is an important piece of the puzzle so our thoughts and words have its own value no matther our level of knowledge.
 
Earlier when I signed up to the forum, I had actually glanced upon this thread and maybe skimmed through some of the content without really registering any of it. Now, around 2 months later, after reading the full thread until this post, I have realised my folly, my selectivity induced by those cunningly crafted programmes running discretely below the level of my rusty awareness. Oh my! There are so many of them, and I never seem to catch even a hint of their presence, in the sleep that they lull me into so easily. Now I can see quite a number of them very clearly, but they can be overcome with brutal honesty to everyone here as well as ourselves and, not to mention, positive mental attitude (PMA) :)

Thanks to all the courageous posters here who have bared all and helped pick out the programmes from almost every angle and perspective I could imagine. There seems to be a real danger being a fence-sitter, since I find that my possible intents in the utilisation of this valuable information can sometimes vary between STO or STS. It is imperative to start sharing and networking as soon as we have a good knowledge base and not be carried into a false sense of comfort, and to increase vibrational frequencies to that of STO nature, OSIT (I love these acronyms)

And to phrase my experience reading through this thread and the forum in general:

sitta said:
... This knowledge gives me oh so needed kick to the behind sometimes :P.
 
I realize I could be called a lurker, but I realize now after reading this post that I simply need to move past my language issues and my other setbacks. At first I thought i should read all the books, information and etc... If anything the one thing I've learned is that reading and gaining knowledge is worthless unless I have a different introspection to these things and people to discuss and share opinions and idea's with. Much like my tarot has been telling me for some time. For me I have a hard time assimilating information because of my setbacks. Though after buying the EE DVD's I've realized that I simply need to clear my emotions and my mind and start networking. :cool2:
 
I am afraid I feel more or less the same as it has been stated by other forum members. Also I am not a native English so I think it is another handicap. The more I read the more I learn however think I need my time to assimilate. Thanks Vulcano for this thread.
 

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