I've been watching this thread for awhile and just to add my two cents worth, I think Cliff's work is interesting, but not particularly special. While Clif has proven that his technique can predict future events such as the Mccrystal incident and the occurrence of certain financial events, it is too inaccurate to be reliable in my opinion. Clif admits to a 50% accuracy rate and pretty much advises his readers not to take his reports seriously in the little intro blurb. This is good for Clif's character, since it suggests he is not intentionally trying to decieve his readership, but does not speak much of the reliability of his work. In essence, his method is valid, but not refined enough to be reliable. Sure, Clif
is usually right on the archetype level, but I contend that any aware, open-minded person with minimal psychic faculties can see what's going on on the archetypal level and arrive at a general template of what is going to occur in our near future. I also find that his language regarding the various negative predictions in his reports a little overstated. Some examples were the Flash Crash and the Obama Torment of the Soul days. In the reports, although the Flash Crash was an accurate prediction, Clif made it sound as if there was going to be major turmoil in the markets and an attack on the dollar. The real effects of the Flash Crash didn't last more than a couple of days, and after a few weeks it completely disappeared down the memory hole. The only enduring effect of the Flash Crash is possibly demonstrating the ergegiously false nature of the global financial system to the "awake and aware" populace. The Torment of the Soul days were touted as a time when the Obama administration would be under severe strain from economic and sociological pressures. Sure there were some ongoing shakeups in the upper brass of the US government that smells an awful lot like rats abandoning a sinking ship, but there was nothing special about the first couple weeks of August. The Obama administration is still functional, although a bit creaky, and life went on. If any administration is having a "Torment of the Soul" it is Sarkozy's and not Obama's. Clif's reports are full of predictions like this that come to fruition in ways that are really neither hits nor misses, though could count as hits depending on how broadly you want to define the linguistics. I'm expecting a similar result for the November tipping point. The concept of currency wars is coming to MSM media attention, and something will probably come out about it as the "New Boss" informs the sheeple of the new wildly unpopular entitlement reforms that must be enacted to save the system. The Dow might drop 2000 points. Real unemployment might go up 2 or 3 points. The financial press will be running and screaming about this new change in sentiment, then after the desired concessions have been extracted from the people, the PPT will fire the thing back up again and it will be business as usual until the next drop in the staircase. Or maybe Clif is right and this is the "big one." As far as I'm concerned, given his record of a few starkly accurate predictions, a few dead wrong predictions, and a mass of plausibly correct predictions in the middle, the idea that such and such is going to happen because Clif's data analysis says so is not much reassurance.
I'm also curious about those who define themselves as "fans" of Clif's work. It seems that they have listened to Clif's interviews and read his reports and decided that after making a few spectacularly good predictions and determining that a lot of his metaphysical ideas are in the ballpark that he is "in" as a reliable source of information. After passing their initial tests, the fan(atic)s feel a need to defend Clif whenever he does something questionable in the eyes of others because he has been put into the good guy category and the fans want to follow a good guy. This type of thinking only leads to one giving away their freewill to support their subjective beliefs about someone or something. I think having fans is antithetical to the concept of a network, because once the figure of admiration meets the criteria of the fans, then the fans will not question anything the figure does. This then eventually results in a hierarchical system where devotees wait to receive revelations from their Master and critical thinking stops.
To go on a slight tangent here, I think this is relevant to this discussion of "no new transcript" that has been going on for awhile. Now I will admit that I look forward to reading new transcripts and frequently look for new ones, but I believe the intent of wishing to have a new transcript is of intense interest. It seems that many are looking to the word from "on high" about what's going on in the world and what they should do. One may do their own reading and research, but the Cassiopaeans themselves have the final say. Given their track record, I think we can safely say that anything that comes out of Cass HQ is probably true, but could possibly be false. Laura and Ark have reiterated time and time again how one must question everything. I don't think it is safe to even be a fan of Laura's if one wishes to grow in an objective manner. If everyone just agrees with Laura all the time, they are giving away their freewill to Laura hoping that she is a good master. Since Laura is trying to build a non-hierarchical system, this type of thinking doesn't seem to be very much in line with the mission of the forum. By extension, whenever the Cassiopaeans say something, it needs to be taken with some grain of salt so that it doesn't lead to one giving away their critical thinking faculties to a new "god." It seems this is how STS critters can comandeer a good channel. It seems to me that once even a subtle master-servant relationship is established, it opens the door for all kinds of sneaky distortions, and even encourages them since this relationship is more inline with STS hierarchy rather than STO networking. A network of yes-men is not really a network.
Getting back to Clif, I think this is what has happened to a lot of his readership. I like Cliff in the subjective sense, he seems fairly well-read, a lot of his metaphysical ideas seem to dovetail nicely with what I've learned through the forum, and he's fairly aware of the STS alien agenda. In short, he passes a lot of the tests that I would use to determine whether he is credible or not. However, a lot of his ideas seem off. There is his prejudice against channelling, STO, and the Wave, which has been duly discussed here. He sees all of the New Agey stuff and stops there and decides not to dig any further. Then there's the fact that he seems to be stuck in a linear time meme. He views time a some type of matter, "time-stuff," which can be concentrated and dispersed to make time flow faster or slower, but it can't be reversed or bridged or merged with other realities. The universe is constantly being created/destroyed at 22Thz. I have no idea where he gets the number or even how he thinks he's qualified to make such proclamations to his audience. It sounds like something he got out of some book he was particularly taken with which agreed with some earlier bias he had regarding the nature of time. During the last TNS radio interview, someone asked him about where he got it from and he threw out some names like NASA and experiments with light, but couldn't really give a straight answer. I also got a laugh out of his description of the Reptoids becoming public awareness and then leaving the planet. I don't think the Reptoids will really ever be walking around in 3D due to the disadvantages it creates for them. I think the only ones who will meet the Reptoids in any meaningful way will be the ones who graduate to 4D. After the Wave comes, everyone is either going to be soul-smashed or "ascended." To use the following analogy, everyone who is soul-smashed back to a primitive state will be like lost sheep beying in the night, totally clueless and easily controlled. However, those sheep who have made it to 4D are more or less aware of everything that is going on and have suddenly morphed into humans who are threatening to take over the farm. Obviously the farmers are going to be more concerned about these "sentient sheep" who aren't real happy with the fact that they're being buchered, and intense efforts will be required to put them back in their place. So perhaps the Reptoids are technically "leaving" because there are bigger fish to fry in 4D, but they aren't leaving in a physical sense like Clif suggests, their attention is just being turned to another realm of existense. This is an example of Cliff not having the proper context to interpret his data because since having already discounted the possibility of channeled entities and ascension, this is the only interpretation that fits his worldview. It seems based on the two major examples I spoke of here, and other minor ones, Cliff's awareness of the hyperdimensional reality which surrounds our little matrix is rather limited. And this hyperdimensional realm is of intense interest becuase it is where most of the "programs" are loaded from. He's making the common mistake of applying 3D logic to 4D realities; he even seems to be aware of this and calls it his "monkey mind," but I guess can't see how he's doing it. Clif does seem to use the phrase "in my worldview" quite a bit, and it is the subjectivity of this worldview which is a major drag on the accuracy of his reports or any type of predictions one would make in general. This world view of his may be what is being vectored by Jay Weidner and Co. so that he never really escapes his "monkey mind" but just adds additional layers of complexity that circumvent immediate questions and fallacies, but never bring him any closer to true answers. One last interesting point to consider is that Clif is a computer programmer by trade and not a scientist. While he comes across as very literate and intelligent, he really doesn't have the education to do anything more than speculate on many of the subjects he discusses. He seems to be hitting the disinfo circuit pretty hard, and maybe such stations are the only way he has to get his word out, but the fact that he often only appears in forums which really "play the field" of New Age gurus is another potential red flag to me.
Falling said:
Thus is the issue of priorities brought to the surface of the mind. There will be many minds, both paid shills, and just regular people trying to work out their place in universe who will participate in denigration and denial of my position on these days we share. This is fine. So universe would have it. But it can be demonstrated, as i hope i have here, that saying that 'clif is a big failure cause nothing happened' is really a position taken by your mind, not the manifestations of reality. It is the same as saying "clif failed in his forecast because I did not see XXX that I expected". Yes, framed that way, i failed in meeting YOUR expectations is my response. But universe chooses not to define me internally by the expectations of others. So with respect, i can respond, that yes, this was your experience of these days. Mine is different.
Not to pick on you rawtruth, but I noticed you didn't quote this part of Cliff's article, and I think it is a very important piece when discerning Clif's credibility. In my opinion, Cliff is withdrawing into the narcissitic shell of "it's true because I said so," or perhaps "this is my truth and that is your truth." It seems that Clif can't take the blow of all of his hard work missing the mark on this important prediction and his ego, supported by his worldview of universe, assures us that it is true, even if we are to stupid to see it. (I'm seeing shades of Dan Winter here) Barring this, I think that he is, at the very least, trying to hedge his bets so that he doesn't look so bad after making a potentially bad prediction.
My prediction is that this tipping point is going to be another one of his plausibly correct predictions. He does seem to be right on the detail layers concerning silver being one of the major triggers for the crack up of the financial system. He predicted silver going up $5 a day starting right after the last Veritas interview and continuing incrementally until it reached $200 an ounce or so which would trigger a run on the US financial system. The day after the interview, silver did rise almost $5 an ounce. After that however, it kind of fizzled out and settled back down. Now there is this campaign started by Max Keiser and Alex Jones to buy silver and crash JP Morgan, as well as a lot of general silver trading that has been going on, leading many to suggest there is about to be a huge short squeeze. There probably will be one leading to a reaction by the PTB to institute another bailout or enact some kind of law keeping silver under control. It could possibly lead to another wave of layoffs, but it would then be swept under the rug like the Mark Mcguire case was and life will go on. If this scenario occurred, Clif could then claim a hit, because the prediction came true qualitatively, and then he could use his clause to explain to people who say he missed the mark that they were too emotionally invested in the language of the report when they interpreted it to mean financial Armageddon when it really didn't. I wouldn't buy it because the language he uses in his report to emphasizes the complete and utter failure of the financial system. I'm sorry Cliff, but you do claim to be a linguist, and the language you use emphatically suggests that I should expect the US economy to completely implode within the next couple of months. A complete economic collapse is something few would be able to ignore, and this line about your report being right even though it doesn't meet the expectations is total BS because a complete collapse is exactly what you're forecasting.
Looking at this "death of the dollar" prediction from another angle, one could argue that it has already occured. If Clif was saying that this tipping point was a subtle shift in the programming of the matrix, then his statement would make more sense. Since it would be a backroom deal, few would notice it and while indeed the objective reality did change, most people would be too caught up in their illusions to notice. If this is indeed what Clif means by his statement, then he is not really predicting anything. My reason for saying this is because the dollar lost any tenuous degree of reality it had left after the crash of 08. The Fed now basically underwrites everything, and their computers basically control whether or not there is money, trading, or any type of economic activity on a given day. I think if most people were to go into their bedroom alone, turn off the TV, and think for awhile, they would reach the conclusion that the global economy is a lie designed to funnel their energy to some clique of invisible overlords. Their entire lives are lies designed to perpetuate this system, and the dollar is the mechanism which makes it possible. If the dollar was cast aside en masse, the system would collapse. The entire economy has been kept alive by the belief, or rather the hope of the sheeple, that a dollar is worth something. Casting aside the dollar, especially for America, requires the people to recognise that pretty much everything they stood for is false, and requires them to sacrifice their relatively comfortable lives for something unknown and no one knows how it will turn out. It is too much to bear for the people and the PTB, so the dollar continues to exist even though its illusory nature is pretty obvious. The PTB want to encourage this belief as much as possible, because it keeps the people under control. In my opinion, only two things would cause an economic crash like Clif is predicting, a sudden change in attitude toward the dollar, or catastrophic climate change. The PTB would prefer to keep the dollar system going until right before the comet cluster, so that when they head for the hills everybody will be stripped bare without warning and standig around cluelessly. I view the NWO/overt fascism plan as kind of a back up in case people start turning away from their financial slavery. If they institute the NWO plan, it will bring a lot of attention to the conspiracy fringe, since they were right after all, and people may start to question deeper and more philosophical concerns that could turn out causing even bigger problems for the MCS. The original plan to institute the NWO gradually may have negated this and made a more comfortable option for the PTB, but it seems they don't have very much time left and the thing will come together very haphazardly unless 4D STS comes to save the day. Clif's prediction about the catastrophic climate change already missed, so he seems to be banking on this sudden shift of sentiment. I just have a feeling that when the dollar dies, it won't go down the way he describes it.
I do intend to give Clif's prediction every chance, and if he is right, maybe the effects of the tipping point won't rise to prominence until January or February. The markets are closed today in the US anyway, so there's not much that could happen in the way of finance anyway. Maybe the tipping point itself is just a bunch of investers deciding to launch a raid on the COMEX tomorrow while the big bankers have just decided that it's "showtime" and head for the exits. The rest of this economic tipping point will manifest as the increasing downward momentum that is acquired from these decisions as commodities and inflation spiral out of control over the next couple of months. The dollar loses reserve currency status in January and the building tension language begins again as people start to wonder how to manage this new economy. A series of failed solutions are proposed over the course of 2011, and then finance gradually becomes irrelevant into late 2011 as catastrophic climate change begins to take hold and the world government really starts to come unglued. That's pretty much how it has to go down if Cliff's reports are to be believed.
In conclusion, I don't think Cliff's bot is reliable enough to make big decisions. His worldview has some what I would consider to be fatal gaps which I think could leave one ill-prepared for reality if he is considered a chief source of information. It appears that Cliff is trying the best he can to publish what he believes is the truth to a world which is hungry for it, and $10 a pop is not bad to wander through Clif's wonderland of data. I view Cliff's reports as a sort of bedtime story, they aren't literally accurate, but have underlying themes which are relevant and make the mind ponder. I think this is basically how Cliff wants his reports to be read, he states that it is foolish to make decisions based solely on your interpretation of his interpretation of the data, and that the universe rewards thinking. I agree and try to exercise my thinking at every opportunity. In my study of Clif's work, I've found it interesting, but I think it lacks refinement and I won't be considering it a particularly good source of information.
