Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[Harmony99]

Trump suspends ALL travel from Europe for 30 days starting Friday as he addresses nation on coronavirus

Things heating up real fast.Its so difficult to predict the result of the next few days. My greatest interest is to observe the behaviour of people without the distractions of sports and entertainment events. Maybe a few will benefit from the break of so much distraction and start some real soul searching.

 

[Alejo]

Things heating up real fast.Its so difficult to predict the result of the next few days. My greatest interest is to observe the behaviour of people without the distractions of sports and entertainment events. Maybe a few will benefit from the break of so much distraction and start some real soul searching.

one would hope.... but the thing with these sporting events and distractions is that they allow for respite and release of stress. Without them people could certainly use them to grow, but as human beings, our default response to stress isn’t that one, it’s usually a default fight or flight. You take those away, and travel, and people will get cranky. Which is maybe the point, create the problem and sell a solution.

 

[axj]

The number of cases, rate of transmission, and fatality rate that was reported when the virus was mostly contained in China, up until the South Korean "doomsday superspreader" event.

Back then the fatality rate was given at 2%:

Initial estimate was 2%

Initially, the World Health Organization (WHO) had mentioned 2% as a mortality rate estimate in a press conference on Wednesday, January 29 and again on February 10.

However, the number differs a lot between the early and later cases, as well as between the Wuhan province and the rest of China:

The overall CFR varies by location and intensity of transmission (i.e. 5.8% in Wuhan vs. 0.7% in other areas in China).

In China, the overall CFR was higher in the early stages of the outbreak (17.3% for cases with symptom onset from 1-10 January) and has reduced over time to 0.7% for patients with symptom onset after 1 February.

The Joint Mission noted that the standard of care has evolved over the course of the outbreak.

Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

Case Fatality Rate (CFR), Infection Fatality Rate (IFR), and Crude Mortality Rate (CMR) latest estimates for the COVID-19 disease from the SARS-CoV-2 virus originating from Wuhan, China

www.worldometers.info

Currently, the WHO gives a 3.4% mortality rate, which seems far too high.

South Korea, which tested 200,000 people gives a 0.6% mortality rate - which is very close to the 0.7% from the rest of China. In both cases, early quarantine measures ensured that the hospitals did not become overwhelmed.

So it seems that with quarantine measures to limit the outbreak, the mortality rate stays at around 0.6% or 0.7%, which is about 7 times more than the regular flu (0.1%). Without quarantine measures and with the overwhelming of hospitals, this number can go up a lot - since many of the 5% or so severe cases which need ICU would likely die.

The regular flu worldwide deaths are estimated at between 250,000 and 500,000 a year:

Global mortality associated with seasonal influenza epidemics: New burden estimates and predictors from the GLaMOR Project

Until recently, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated the annual mortality burden of influenza to be 250 000 to 500 000 all-cause deaths globally; however, a 2017 study indicated a substantially higher mortality burden, at 290 000-650 000 ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

If this virus is 6-7 times more deadly and spreads as far as the flu, that means something like 1.5 million to 3.5 million fatalities worldwide. If it becomes endemic, it can come back in waves every year like the flu ("medical martial law"?). The virus can also mutate and become either more or less deadly. The second wave or mutation of the Spanish Flu was more deadly than the first, for example.

 

[Voyageur]

Not to diminish fears et al. from JP Sear, here were words circulating and repeated out of the news today (many more certainly):

• social distancing
• viral marketing (no pun)
• viral shedding
• emerging studies
• emerging vaccines
• imported infections
• pandemic pandemic
• self-isolate
• keeping you safe
• epidemic curve
• global spread
• suspending season
• control the spread
• overwhelmed
• travel ban
• outbreak
• quarantined
• spiraling virus
• financial carnage
• markets falling like dominoes
• exogenous shock
• funding vaccine research
• virus unemployed
• vaccine hope
• COVID-19 misinformation
• virus conspiracy theory's

The Extinction Rebellion (ER) has been all about 'cancel' - cancel this and cancel that, and the fear and news are driving cancel home.

ER news

Drastic measures taken to stem the coronavirus outbreak demonstrate that climate change can be tackled, Extinction Rebellion has said.
[...]
The Bank of England’s governor Mark Carney said the bank is ready to take “all necessary steps to support the UK economy and financial system” through “an economic shock that could prove large but will ultimately be temporary”.

On 'Mark of Cain' (C's jealously factor) side from Vietnam:

“Gen Cho Vy,” a pun on “coronavirus”

Corvid-19 Handshake


Corvid-19 Greeting from Andre Yang (politician)

@AndrewYang

I hate to say this - I’m not much of a germophobe myself - but we might want to work on a personal greeting that doesn’t involve physical contact.

 

[Jones]

The Australian Government has announced an economic stimulus package to counteract the effects of isolation/quarantine from the coronavirus!

- Cashflow boosts for small business - up to $25,000 and up to $21,000 for those training apprentices.
- Increasing asset write off and depreciation thresholds for business investors.
- One off $750 payments to 6.5million people on lower income as a stimulus payment to support growth.
- And set aside an initial $1 billion allocation to support those regions and communities that have been disproportionately affected by the economic impacts of the Coronavirus, including those heavily reliant on industries such as tourism, agriculture and education.

In total, the cost is over $17 billion. Payments start from the end of March.

Economic Stimulus Package | Prime Minister of Australia

www.pm.gov.au

It really looks like they are playing hard to convince us of the danger of this virus and perhaps that they are going to enforce more isolation/quarantine.

Just seems odd that the patent for an attenuated coronavirus is granted in 2018, and all of a sudden there's all this drama. On a personal note, I was aware of coronavirus back in the early 2000's as I was working around animals that were tested positive for it in rescue. There was nowhere near this level of drama about it back then.

Edited to add: Maybe this stimulus package has nothing to do with the coronavirus at all, but the govt is aware that the economy is tanking and they're using the coronavirus as an excuse to stimulate the economy?

 

[loreta]

And now this,

The virus may be rather mundane, but the reaction is very real, and it seems disproportionate and purposefully draconian. Methinks someone is pushing as hard as they can and see how much they can get away with.

Trump suspends ALL travel from Europe for 30 days starting Friday as he addresses nation on coronavirus
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Usually and we know that Presidents and politicians do not decide anything because they are puppets. So who is behind all this! WHO? Israel? The magnificent order in all this, like a perfect show, it is extraordinary. How many time "they" were preparing this show? Everything is so on schedule. I am astounded.

Today I am going to the prison to my Book Club and I am curious how things will go. Here in Canarias things go at another rhythm, cancellations yes, no more Carnaval in the South of the Island, many cultural meetings in Tenerife also cancelled, the drivers of the busses will have disinfectant to clean anything around them.

The similitude about the "Phony War" in Britain before 1939 is astounding. The Phony War was before anything else a mental control preparation to the war, but also a preparation of the country to be ready, at many levels. People lived those days like an adventure not knowing the horror that will come. We are in a similar situation and we know also that "they" are boring with their scenarios that are so similar one to the other.

 

[Ruth]

Check this out: China’s Coronavirus: Did It Originate in the US? - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com .

Sigh... EVERYBODY'S lying! Luckily some people love a good mystery, and science is the key. Or, perhaps the study of human nature?

 

[Ruth]

This video showed up in my newsfeed, and I was just wondering about this video blogger yesterday. She goes by Amazing Polly, and she is Canadian.

"The virus has given China a perfect excuse to run a cruel social experiment on millions of people. How? They're doing it with SMARTphones and a code inserted into a popular app. If we don't smarten up this will be implemented here."

Yes, I think she is correct. By all means support her work because she challenges those who would rather she not do what she does! And, she has been attacked and demonetized by those in control. An unusual and courageous lady to say the least. And we all need more of those!

 

[JEEP]

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be cancelled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialise.

Another step in closing down travel.

Trump suspends all travel from Europe to US amid coronavirus pandemic

The Trump administration will suspend travel between European countries and the United States for 30 days as the fast-spreading coronavirus pandemic continues to grow. The measure will go into effect at midnight Friday.

I've had this thought since early on when this outbreak was first gaining traction, that airline travel would be suspended. That's something the Cs said would happen some years ago although it didn't occur within the suggested 8 months:

Session 29 December 2009

Session Date: December 29th 2009 Laura, Ark, Anart, Joe, A***, P*****, Allen, C**, I**, Scottie, G*** Q: {General mayhem as lights are adjusted and 3 Christmas candles are lit} A: Hello people of the future. Q: (L) And who do we have with us this evening? A: Knoriha of Cassiopaea. Q: (L)...

cassiopaea.org

A: Yes. What was not normal was the atmosphere.

Q: (Anart) That's from dust from incoming rocks or debris.

A: Yes
[...]
(A***) Should we ask about the weather, or...?

(Anart) Are they eventually going to just shut down international travel?

A: Yes

Q: (A***) How soon?

A: 8 months possible.
[...]
(Scottie) 5D city on a hill, 8 months until international travel stops... oh, and there's no time!!

A: It will not be total shutdown and it will not be long lasting either.

Q: (L) So in other words, they'll do it. They'll try it, and something will happen and there'll be a reaction.

(P*****) Why they will shut down the airports?

A: Wait and see.

Is this seemingly manufactured pandemic what the Cs were referring to? It all seems to be tying in very conveniently to the global totalitarian agenda as both Corbett and Rappoport have pointed out in articles posted in this thread.

With the Covid-19 outbreak, too, the WHO is playing a game with the pandemic declaration, only this time its motivation is precisely the opposite. In 2017, the World Bank issued a $425 billion bond in support of its Pandemic Emergency Financing Facility. Investors in that bond issue will lose everything if a global pandemic is declared before July . . . a key reason, some suggest, why the WHO is refusing to call coronavirus a pandemic despite it quite clearly meeting the criteria.

They don't know, and yet the WHO just today formally declared this a 'pandemic'.

Well, it's not July! I guess those investors are going to lose big bucks!

 

[Ruth]

Before it becomes accepted fact, it first does the rounds in the rumour mill.

Word is out that Egypt is heading Iran's way. Lots of tourists returning to various countries are testing positive having picked up the virus in Egypt.

Officially, I think Egypt has 2 confirmed cases.

You know, the one thing we all want to know is how accurate the 'test' is? Just saying that the more accurate a test is, the better our understanding of virus (type) progression will be. It's just that as far as information goes, the more we know, the better off we'll be.

 

[Ruth]

Session 28 December 2019
"...Cosmic forces will be displayed and there will be many searching for answers...."

An astrologer would point Neptune out. Because of the things it has dominion over. People always underestimate Neptune. It's probably not a good idea. It's guaranteed to confuse things to the max. I'm wondering if there isn't a significant part of the 'trickster' to it? And people can be so easily tricked...

 

[DianaRose]

With this Corona virus, I feel the governments or someone wants to purposely crash the economy so that people will become helpless and frenzied. Like suspending the NBA one of major sporting venture in the US? This entire drama will have enormous consequences. You can't just ground everything to a standstill. Planes are cancelling flights left and right which mean they're losing money. Shops are closing. And major events such as sport and concert which bring in a lot of money not only for the entertainers and athletes are also being cancelled, and this is major revenue loss at so many level from the stands who sell food to those who advertise and market the events.

I do wonder if we won't start seeing empty supermarkets due to delayed productions and delivery. And then, there is the simple issue that if you lock down everything, people don't work, money isn't earned and eventually, there's likely to be job losses. It's hard to stomach that there is a possibility that life might become majorly more difficult and we might face a major economic disaster over such nonsense. It's ridiculous.

 

[Deleted member 9511]

An astrologer would point Neptune out. Because of the things it has dominion over. People always underestimate Neptune. It's probably not a good idea. It's guaranteed to confuse things to the max. I'm wondering if there isn't a significant part of the 'trickster' to it? And people can be so easily tricked...

Saturn is dominant in this chaos as I've been told. Will continue to escalate through July, then linger for another two years after. The destructive effects of Saturn, that is. How it manifests? We're off to a good start I'd say.

 

[SOTTREADER]

With this Corona virus, I feel the governments or someone wants to purposely crash the economy so that people will become helpless and frenzied. Like suspending the NBA one of major sporting venture in the US? This entire drama will have enormous consequences. You can't just ground everything to a standstill. Planes are cancelling flights left and right which mean they're losing money. Shops are closing. And major events such as sport and concert which bring in a lot of money not only for the entertainers and athletes are also being cancelled, and this is major revenue loss at so many level from the stands who sell food to those who advertise and market the events.

I do wonder if we won't start seeing empty supermarkets due to delayed productions and delivery. And then, there is the simple issue that if you lock down everything, people don't work, money isn't earned and eventually, there's likely to be job losses. It's hard to stomach that there is a possibility that life might become majorly more difficult and we might face a major economic disaster over such nonsense. It's ridiculous.

Yes they can, and they are doing it.


They want to get R0 to less than 1.

 

[luc]

So it was quite a surprise to see a spokesman from the NZ Medical Society on the news last night. She cam across as a slightly deranged, frothing at the mouth lunatic, claiming the virus was here, that nothing could stop its spread and that there would be huge numbers of deaths in NZ as a consequence. It was really quite surreal

That's interesting. Do you have a video link by any chance?

Here's a theory: maybe the Wave is coming in earnest? The Cs have told us about "hyperkinetic sensate" and those unprepared physically experiencing a "thermonuclear blast" and other things along those lines, i.e. you either ride the Wave or get crushed by it. What if some (many?) people are experiencing this, or kind of feel it in their bones that it's coming? This would include people in the various bureaucracies and administrations. In other words, this coronavirus just happened to be there at the right moment, and the psychic energy in the air just attached itself to it. Could have been something different. Anyway, that would explain the worldwide nature of this craze, and why it started rather innocently, like just another media hype among many, but quickly spiraled out of control in this bizarre way. Just a thought!