Crash of German Wings Flight over French Alps

Jeremy F Kreuz said:
RT quoting BILD - which is a trashy populist newspaper in Germany

07:34 GMT:

Lubitz had spent 18 months overall under psychiatric treatment, Bild has reported, citing anonymous sources within Lufthansa, Germanwings’ parent company. The pilot was diagnosed with a "severe depressive episode" in 2009, the German daily says. It claims it got access to Lubitz’s profile, indicating the pilot had “psychological problems” and required a "special, exemplary regular medical examination."

Bild also cites sources familiar with the investigation, saying that Lubitz suffered from a "personal life crisis," following a recent breakup with a girlfriend.

As far as I am concerned. I don't believe this at all. I mean, it could just as well be part of the whole cover up of what is the real cause of all this and that is that the co-pilot was under some sort of Greenbaum mind control or some other sort. So they probably have planted this evidence or the media made this up. But then the co-pilots family would come out to deny all of this I would presume...Anyway, I think you have to take into consideration that everything we heard through the regular media, concerning the circumstances around this crash is probably false information....
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Ok, let's say there was any fire axe or whatever on the plane.

But at first they were saying that the passengers until the last moment didn't know what was going on, that they were going to die. It's easy to notice or hear, I guess, if someone smashes the door with the axe. Earlier there were no screams on the record, now they are. It doesn't add up.

Scottie, maybe there is some truth in your earth zaps/opening up theory. I'm more inclined to take it into consideration then the fairly tale about one pilot suffering from depression and another wielding the axe...
 
luke wilson said:
Things that we can assume to be true:

- Given the lack of a survival instinct from the co-pilot, he had no idea the plane was on a gradual descent.
- Given that it hit a mountain plus given the above assumption, he probably didn't see the mountain, otherwise he would have taken some corrective actions.
- Given the above 2, the co-pilot would not have physically closed the cabin door, rather that door could not open due to other reasons.
- Given that there was banging on the door and still no answers from the co-pilot, we can assume he could not hear the actual banging on the door.

I think you are making those assumptions here too soon. If it was a mind control case (whether brain-chip based or not, going off deliberately or coincidentally) then he would be on a "mission" to bring the plane down, entirely and dead-calm focused on the task. On the other hand, the HS version seems plausible explanation to me too, especially when considering the 'Barca marker' thing.
 
Perceval said:
rs said:
No, I am not precious about Arizona. I just do not understand why it is "obvious" that it is more difficult to find in AZ vs. Germany.

The guy is German, he was in Arizona years ago, this is a European event. It's obviously more difficult to for investigators to find the dentist he went to in Arizona years ago than it is to find his local one in Germany.

I think Ark also meant to suggest that maybe it wasn't a "regular dentist."
 
The story is developing by PTB. I dont believe in this childish version. They are trying to support their main story with some new "evidences"

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/andreas-lubitz-ripped-up-letters-indicate-copilot-should-have-been-on-sick-leave-and-hid-illness-from-employers-10138674.html

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html said:
Germanwings copilot had torn-up sick note, may have hid illness, prosecutors say
 
Konstantin said:
The story is developing by PTB. I dont believe in this childish version. They are trying to support their main story with some new "evidences"

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/andreas-lubitz-ripped-up-letters-indicate-copilot-should-have-been-on-sick-leave-and-hid-illness-from-employers-10138674.html

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html said:
Germanwings copilot had torn-up sick note, may have hid illness, prosecutors say

Sorry, here is the same on SOTT
http://www.sott.net/article/294393-Germanwings-co-pilot-had-medical-excuse-on-day-of-crash
 
Ellipse said:
Now they report that the pilot "had been suffering with depression". _http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-3013877/Cockpit-rules-change-crash.html

This morning I heard at the radio that he followed a psychiatric treatment. If it's true it would have been an handy point to "work" on him.

In considering whether it could have been a suicide by the co-pilot, it would be interesting to know whether he had recently had a dosage change of anti-depressant medication. There is some research about suicides and acts of extreme violence (like when people are stabbed dozens of times) possibly being linked to changes in dosage of some anti-depressants.
 
Konstantin said:
The story is developing by PTB. I dont believe in this childish version. They are trying to support their main story with some new "evidences"

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/andreas-lubitz-ripped-up-letters-indicate-copilot-should-have-been-on-sick-leave-and-hid-illness-from-employers-10138674.html

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html said:
Germanwings copilot had torn-up sick note, may have hid illness, prosecutors say

Also saw the same story on sky news... they didn't mention what the illness was though?

They also interviewed someone who knew him and his family from when they were kids... well he's surprised as well as Lubitz had a passion for flying since he was a teenager. Plus by all indications he was normal and not a recluse, quiet etc as per other profiles of those who commit such acts.

All very baffling really...

Added: He was also subjected to rigorous psychological testing and he passed them all. Now the tests themselves are being called into question.

Plus the burn out episode he experienced was when he was in flight school. No article so far that I have seen mentions he was on anti depressants. They do however say he was having serious problems with his girlfriend.

_http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11496066/Andreas-Lubitz-and-Patrick-S-What-do-we-know-about-the-pilots-on-Germanwings-flight-4U9525.html
 
Scottie said:
Keit said:
Something tells me it isn't a regular outage.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/amsterdam-s-schiphol-airport-cancels-all-flights-1.2155661

All flights to and from Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport were cancelled on Friday following a major power outage in the Dutch capital and surrounding region, an airport spokeswoman said.

She said all incoming flights to Europe’s fourth largest airport were being diverted to other regional airports. “We are experiencing a lot of problems due to the outage,” she said.

Well, this is just a feeling, but this definitely doesn't sit right with me. The 4th largest airport in Europe doesn't have adequate backup generators?

I suspect this is all the result of some weird "earth zaps" and "opening up" and that kind of thing, and they're madly trying to cover it all up with normal explanations.

I was also thinking along these lines:

1) there is this huge asteroid which has "narrowly missed" the Earth today and which could have "friends" accompanying it: http://www.sott.net/article/294303-Massive-asteroid-on-course-to-narrowly-miss-the-Earth

2) there is the abovementioned Schiphol airport's major power outage

3) there is this explosion Manhattan: http://www.sott.net/article/294375-Explosion-rocks-Manhattan-people-trapped-in-collapsed-and-burning-building

4) the two passenger trains collided in Thailand: _http://www.themalaymailonline.com/world/article/50-injured-after-trains-collide-in-thailand

To me it looks like some major EM flares these days - possibly due to the asteroid & friends?

And possibly these EM effects put the co-pilot into some alternate state of mind too.

Just my speculations. :/
 
The Alps plane crash sure is diverting attention from the US military moving through Europe to within spitting distance from the Russian border.
 
Regarding possible Greenbauming, pilots have to get into the flight simulator from time to time to train or for certification.
I can imagine that one could program somebody that way. Maybe open them up with strobe lights.

It does seem though that there is some high strangeness going on if in fact the recording of the cockpit sounds is real.
 
I wanted to add something that is bordering upon or just straight up full blown baked noodle that I came across last night.

I understand if a mod would like to delete this entry and/or move it to the baked noodles section... I even considered posting it there but I fear it will be ignored among the interested peoples of this specific thread and I really want some of your opinions on this very strange synchronicity.

*Sigh* Here goes nothing! (Brace yourself.)




> Here is a photo found online of Airbus A320 circa 2013: https://www.flickr.com/photos/360photography/11276990036/

(The photo refers to the plane as 'the dark knight' (not the same plane.))

> "Plane 'crashed near Digne-les-Bains' in French alps"

> Investigating Prosecutor: "Bruce Robin" (Bruce Wayne is Batman, Robin is Batman's sidekick) is responsible for most of the media communications regarding the event.

> At the beginning of the movie 'The Dark Knight Rises' includes a plane hijacking scheme.

> Bain and his crew abduct an onboard passenger 'Dr. Leonid Pavel,' a Russian nuclear physicist.

> During the scene, they conduct a blood transfusion into a victim on-board so investigators would believe Dr. Pavel died during the following, planned crashing of the plane, leaving his blood signature as irrefutable evidence of his death.




Again... I really wanted to get this very strange connection to the group. I apologize if some of the members find this to be offensive to the families of the victims. I sincerely am not trying to make parody of this tragic event by connecting this to a hollywood movie.

(TGIF)
 
I feel sad for the parents of the co-pilot.

This demonize of someone that was "taking" anti-depressants and became a psychopath is giving a message to people that have friends or family members that are taking anti-depressants. I say this because one woman today told me that she was afraid to bring her child to the kindergarten because the teacher was on anti-depressants. Is there behind this publicity something to scare population about people that are under medication? Scare people to take airplanes, scare people of other people that are depressed. And between you and me, there are many, many people under anti-depressants or simply depressed.

I was also thinking about the asteroid of Friday (today). And all this story about the culprit pilot is maybe a sort of curtain of what is happening in the skies.
 
Laura said:
Perceval said:
rs said:
No, I am not precious about Arizona. I just do not understand why it is "obvious" that it is more difficult to find in AZ vs. Germany.

The guy is German, he was in Arizona years ago, this is a European event. It's obviously more difficult to for investigators to find the dentist he went to in Arizona years ago than it is to find his local one in Germany.

I think Ark also meant to suggest that maybe it wasn't a "regular dentist."
Yes, I kinda figured that out - albeit a bit too late... This particular sub-thread started going sideways so I just left it alone. Thanks.
 
luke wilson said:
Konstantin said:
The story is developing by PTB. I dont believe in this childish version. They are trying to support their main story with some new "evidences"

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html

_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/andreas-lubitz-ripped-up-letters-indicate-copilot-should-have-been-on-sick-leave-and-hid-illness-from-employers-10138674.html

_http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-germanwings-copilot-may-have-hid-illness-20150327-story.html said:
Germanwings copilot had torn-up sick note, may have hid illness, prosecutors say

From my point of view. there are not "new evidences", they are just interpreting them, I read somewhere --- do not have the link at the moment, I am at other computer, the black/record sounds are very sensitive, they just "use/extract" what they can use for the story of the kamikaze suicide, prosecutors can say everything they can, knowing other powers are behind, and media will go along with the narrative of what they had be instructed to say. And what I had observed in the media via electronic or paper is that, as if there were not any inconsistencies with it. Using all this depressed/illness/breaking with the girlfriend story of the copilot.

As we call it here, prosecutor --with the kamikaze suicide, practically have the case closed, they are not considering the multiple testimonies about the sound/explosion heard before it crash, for one example.
 
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