Cryogenic Chamber Therapy / Cold Adaptation

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Loss of stamina is most likely because all your muscular energy is going into keeping you warm - you're walking a few mountains a day with each cold bath, before actually walking those mountains. In effect you are walking two/three times a far.
 
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My cryo-therapy seems to have had some effects that are being noticed as the days pass. One is that, even though I am still sensitive to certain foods, it manifests in a different, more contained way. I experimented with eggs. Before, if I ate an egg, I would have whole body reaction, pains in the back, shoulder, knees, etc. Now, when I eat an egg, I only feel like my digestive tract is reacting - like a huge stone is passing through. But no pain in the rest of the body. So I think that means that the gut still doesn't like eggs, but the permeability is reduced so that it doesn't get out into the rest of the system.

Needless to say, I'll only eat them occassionally and with some enzymes to help them get through faster.

My tinnitus has reduced, but is not completely gone.

I think my eyesight is better and my brain is sharper, but that's kind of subjective.
 
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Good news Laura, just out of interest how many sessions did you eventually have? And are you planning on having further sessions to maintain the effect? Or is that unnecessary?
 
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Prodigal Son said:
Good news Laura, just out of interest how many sessions did you eventually have? And are you planning on having further sessions to maintain the effect? Or is that unnecessary?

We had 16. We were going to have 20, but decided to come home early.

I may think about future sessions after I spend a few months evaluating how useful the therapy is to me, personally.
 
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I was checking Dr. Kruse's Forum today and found there this interesting question:

(_http://forum.jackkruse.com/showthread.php?938-Whole-Body-Cryotherapy-for-CT)
Dr. Kruse, since CT discussion began I've been wanting your opinion on whether cryotherapy would be an effective alternative to ice baths (which are not possible where I'm living) for achieving cold adaptation. The chambers cool the body (except head and hands) with super cooled mist at -130C (32F) or lower for 3 minutes. I read that Dr. Oz endorses it for treating pain, and sports teams are using it to aid recovery. There is a place here that offers sessions. Do you think regular sessions could produce results similar to ice baths and is there a frequency you would recommend?
Thanks so much, Sue

and Dr. Kruse's reply:
I can not give my stamp of approval to this method yet because it needs to be reconciled with how our nervous systems perceive that cold......and we are not designed to deal with that kinda cold.

So I guess jury is still out on this question and maybe it's going to be unaviodable, in order to open "Ancient pathway", to take a dive into ice cold bath for prolonged time, at least twice weekly. Brrrr!
 
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Noticing other things: as Anart reported, some persistent, naggy type back ache seems to have disappeared. Not only that, but the muscles in my back and abdomen feel stronger and better able to support my torso.

My legs feel lighter and like they have access to energy. This is actually kind of a big thing because getting energy to my legs has been a problem for years. I feel more strength while climbing stairs.
 
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Laura said:
Noticing other things: as Anart reported, some persistent, naggy type back ache seems to have disappeared. Not only that, but the muscles in my back and abdomen feel stronger and better able to support my torso.

My legs feel lighter and like they have access to energy. This is actually kind of a big thing because getting energy to my legs has been a problem for years. I feel more strength while climbing stairs.

That is great to hear and quite remarkable, especially given the stresses you must be under at the moment. Very interested in hearing if these improvements remain permanent.
 
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Endymion said:
I discovered that my shower has another setting that I hadn't considered, one that is really and truly cold with no input from the heating element. The first day I tried that setting was about a week ago, and boy, that was cold! I felt that my body burnt a huge amount of calories to cope with the cold water and to warm up afterwards. I shivered really quite violently while under the water. I had my usual meaty breakfast with lots of butter right after but didn't feel that I had eaten enough until I had an early lunch of bacon and eggs and butter. However since that first day of 'true cold' my body has adapted really fast, possibly because it had already adapted to a cool shower for a while before. Now I'm extending my time in the very cold water until I'm really pink, and when I get out I stand for a few minutes to let my body warm itself up, before towelling off.

An interesting thing is that after about three weeks of cold showers, I don't want to use hot or warm water for washing outside the shower. I wash my hands in cold water every time, and I always wash my face and head in cold water. I generally find that even warm water feels too warm. Leaving my hands under the cold water after rinsing off the soap is really refreshing.

aleana said:
I have also noticed increased alertness, which has made me think that hot showers and baths, like so many of other things we take for granted as being good do, in fact, just make it easier for us to “sleep”.

I think this is a good point. Cold showers, wearing less clothing in cold weather, and turning down the heating at home all seem to contribute to the opposite of 'sleep' – 'it' likes to be warm and cosy!

As I was working a lot lately I didnt see this Thread, what took my attention today was I have always take a bath with warm water, when I was young I had a lot of pain in my legs which I relate to the cold water so to easy the pain I decided always bath with warm water, so reading this post Im wonder how my body could react???? Its gonna be interesting to begin the experiment taking cold water baths!!!! :huh:
 
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I came across a couple of snaps today that seem relevant to the therapeutic benefits of deep cold:

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Caption: Picture of the day, 18 April 2012 - A member of the Cryophil winter swimmers club lies on floating ice on the Yenisei River in the Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk

Picture: REUTERS/Ilya Naymushin

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Caption: A member of the Cryophil winter swimmers club bathes near floating ice from the spring melting on the Yenisei River in the Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk April 18, 2012. REUTERS/Ilya Naymushin
 
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You all who had cryo therapy sessions must have experienced heightened physical efficiency. Suddenly more energy coming.

During the weekend after exhausting myself with athletics it was getting dark and the rough grassy soil grew cold. Bare-footed i run 3x times the usual distance on the soil, that was softer from the recent rain. This time my feet didn't get numb despite the cold and suddenly energy was streaming into my body so i run faster than usual.

The poor young guy (wearing an mp3 player while running) gave up early. The young woman (who came jogging when i was about finished with athletics) lasted a lot longer, but finally gave up. She sat down onto the guest-bench (this is a little soccer-field) and watched me, possibly she never saw somebody run barefooted right beside a cinder-path (bigger edgy stones and hardwood splinters).

Curiously i felt weak all the time and delivered weaker during athletics so this energy rush from cold earth contacting my feet was interesting.
 
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Endymion said:
aleana said:
I have also noticed increased alertness, which has made me think that hot showers and baths, like so many of other things we take for granted as being good do, in fact, just make it easier for us to “sleep”.

I think this is a good point. Cold showers, wearing less clothing in cold weather, and turning down the heating at home all seem to contribute to the opposite of 'sleep' – 'it' likes to be warm and cosy!

The cold showers each morning are, I think, an important part of what makes it possible for me to gradually become more disciplined in general in my life now.

It changes my state of mind, makes me less dreamy and wishy-washy, and then I can get to work on what needs to be done - what remains is to stay more disciplined throughout the day.
 
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forge said:
You all who had cryo therapy sessions must have experienced heightened physical efficiency. Suddenly more energy coming.

During the weekend after exhausting myself with athletics it was getting dark and the rough grassy soil grew cold. Bare-footed i run 3x times the usual distance on the soil, that was softer from the recent rain. This time my feet didn't get numb despite the cold and suddenly energy was streaming into my body so i run faster than usual.

Funny you'd mention that since there is an article up on sott.net on ''Earthing'': http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244334-Earthing-Health-Benefits-from-being-Grounded
 
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Looks like there are quite a few CryoSauna Therapy centers opening up in the US- _www.cryotherapyboulder.com, _www.belowzerocolorado.com, _www.cryostudioofaustin.com - a couple of the websites I have found. Maybe this is the new way to adapt to the cold!
 
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EagerToLearn said:
Looks like there are quite a few CryoSauna Therapy centers opening up in the US- _www.cryotherapyboulder.com, _www.belowzerocolorado.com, _www.cryostudioofaustin.com - a couple of the websites I have found. Maybe this is the new way to adapt to the cold!

Hi EagerToLearn, welcome to the forum. :)

It's customery for newbies to post a short introduction here:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/board,39.0.html

Just a little bit about yourself and how you found your way here. :welcome:
 
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very interesting video !

Wim Hof a.k.a. The Ice Man, Scientifical Breakthrough! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRsNh0eB-Io&feature=youtu.be
 
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