Descriptions of the "afterlife"/5th Density

[Tomiro]

Now this got me thinking, as I remember reading a book quite a while ago (title unfortunately escapes me. I think it was by Chico Xavier) where they describe interactions with our reality, from a spirit's / 5D perspective. Not sure how much of it was fictional, but in general it fell in line with similar literature. In one example someone was doing healing work in 3D, while at the same time being assisted by a lot of workers in 5D.

So doing something like Reiki, I had the assumption that you connect to some universal life force without any intermediate. Or do we actually have these workers or helpers on the "backend"?

 

[thorbiorn]

One thing that's puzzling me is all this talk about spirit guides, who help us (whenever we ask) in the afterlife. Almost all NDE books talk about these guides. However, if I remember correctly, the C's have said that no such things exist, that it's just our 'higher self' guiding us, or something. Any ideas about this?

I can't remember reading much about it from the sessions. They mention:

Perhaps it depends on the person or soul, how much help you need. But if natural progression would eventually go from 4D to 5D existence, I guess you need a job, so might as well become a guide.

There will probably be individual differences. In the Session that @Tomiro mentions, there was also:
Session 9 March 2024

(irjO) Is the movie 'Astral City', which tells the journey of a doctor who dies and goes, lives, and works in "heaven", close to how we perceive and exist in 5th density?

A: For some.

More generally:
There are plenty of tomes with those details. - You can read and compare to get the general gist of things.
Session 20 October 2018

Q: [...] So, Joe was just saying why don't we ask people who talk to us from 5D what 5D is like. I was just thinking about asking that myself.

A: There are plenty of tomes with those details.

Q: (L) Well, if there are plenty of tomes with those details, are they true?

A: You can read and compare to get the general gist of things.

Q: (L) Okay.

Although the general gist of things can become more clear with reading several of these tomes, again one could add - for some. After all it is not a subject easily subjected to 3D proofs. The following is in relation to the Cassiopaean communications, but something similar could be said about the work of all the authors of the afterlife books, whether they themselves were the mediums, or they only recorded what they were given from others who were.
Third density "proof" does not apply
Session 24 February 1996

A: Third density "proof" does not apply, as we have explained again and again. Now, listen very carefully: if proof of that type were possible, what do you suppose would happen to free will, and thusly to learning, Karmic Directive Level One?

Q: (L) Well, I guess that if there is proof, you are believing in the proof and not the spirit of the thing. You are placing your reliance upon a material thing. You have lost your free will. Someone has violated your free will by the act of PROVING something to you.

A: If anyone CHOOSES to believe, that is their prerogative!

What we choose to believe of what the authors write about the afterlife is up to us.

 

[irjO]

One thing that's puzzling me is all this talk about spirit guides, who help us (whenever we ask) in the afterlife. Almost all NDE books talk about these guides. However, if I remember correctly, the C's have said that no such things exist, that it's just our 'higher self' guiding us, or something. Any ideas about this?

I don’t think they ever said that spirit guides doesn’t exist. It is mentioned in 2 sessions;

Session 19 November 1994

Q: (L) When my daughter A__ did a spirit viewing of me she saw a cord attached to me and at the end of this cord there was a blue astronaut. What was the blue astronaut she saw?

A: Guide.

Q: (L) Well, we disconnected him. Should we have left him alone?

A: Up to you.

Session 22 June 1996

Q: (L) When you are in 5th density, is part of your service to be a guide? Are there two kinds of beings on 5th: those who are there for the recycling, and those whose level it simply IS?

A: No. All are as one in timeless understanding of all there is.

Q: (L) If, at 5th density a person has timeless understanding, what is it about them that determines that they will "recycle" as opposed to moving to 6th from 5th?

A: Contemplation reveals needed destiny.

I could say pretty much that one keep learning lessons in 5D, and for some maybe guiding someone else could be part of their destiny, karma weight or temporary mission.

 

[thorbiorn]

Guards and guides?
Connected to the discussion of the deceased as possible guides there was also:

Kitty is now a guard
Session 30 January 2021

(Artemis) Oxajil wanted me to ask about her kitty. I was going to ask if there's anything you can say about her kitty that might help Oxajil?
A: Kitty is now a guard.
Q: (L) So her kitty has become a guard in the astral realms?
A: Yes.

Close to you and guarding.
Session 13 January 2024

Q: (L) T.C and his wife KSee want to know where Denny is and how he’s doing. I normally wouldn't ask this, but it was really very traumatic for them, and they would like to know where Denny is.
A: Close to you and guarding.

There are many different kinds of cats and other pets, and maybe not all have the potential to end up as guards, but the point is that if a pet, with whom there is little DNA connection, in some cases can become a guard, some ancestors can probably do more.

Keep in mind that there is a certain power transmitted by awareness of ancestors. - You can help to heal some things and draw strength via your DNA antennae which, you must remember, is also their DNA antennae.

Sharing the same DNA antennae, if we are connected via DNA to an information field, and you have other people with similar DNA connected to a similar part of the field, and time really doesn’t exist on other planes, then you can access these kinds of memories or information shared by ancestors...? - Exactly.
Session 11 August 2018

(L) Well, on an adjacent topic to DNA, I would like to know why I feel... Um... compelled or obsessed by my genealogy database. [laughter] I'm embarrassed to talk about it because it's taken SO much time, and yet it's like I WANT TO KNOW!
A: Keep in mind that there is a certain power transmitted by awareness of ancestors.
Q: (L) How can there be power transmitted by awareness of ancestors? They're dead, first of all. Second of all, maybe those that had the potential have reincarnated and would be living other lives in other places. Or they'd be floating around in 5th density or whatever dead ancestors do...
(Artemis) Well, in a roundabout way, it's almost like knowing about your past lives.
(Andromeda) Yeah.
A: Yes
Q: (L) So, knowing past lives is helpful. Knowing ancestors is helpful. Well, the ancients believed that if you remembered your ancestors, they helped you. If you didn't take care of them or you forgot about them, they could bring bad luck on you. Can it? [laughter]
A: Something like that. You can help to heal some things and draw strength via your DNA antennae which, you must remember, is also their DNA antennae.
Q: (Andromeda) Makes sense.
(Chu) You inherited their receivers.
(Andromeda) And you can learn things from their experiences thereby.
(Pierre) You were wondering about how you relate to them. They're dead, they're far away. Sharing the same DNA antennae, if we are connected via DNA to an information field, and you have other people with similar DNA connected to a similar part of the field, and time really doesn’t exist on other planes, then you can access these kinds of memories or information shared by ancestors...?
A: Exactly.
Q: (Pierre) Wow.
(Joe) There's also epigenetics...
(L) I keep saying that reading all this early American history tells me why Americans are the way they are. They are completely messed up. But then, so is everybody else!! It's terrible.
(Chu) Epigenetics is only about this life, right?
(L) Oh no! Oh no! Your parents can have methylation that gets passed on to you. All kinds of weird stuff can happen. You just would not believe it. So in other words, we're back to ancestor worship! [laughter]
(Artemis) Get some incense and a shrine!
(Pierre) Is one of the reasons for the importance of the cult of ancestors this relation to the information field via DNA?
A: Yes. They went a bit far with it and forgot why it was important.
Q: (Andromeda) Like Halloween.
(L) Yeah. It just got distorted. But then...
A: We keep telling you that we are you in the future. You are them in the future.
Q: (L) So, my present is their future.
(Andromeda) We're the Cs ancestors! [laughter]
(Artemis) They're honoring us!
(Joe) So, maybe some of your ancestors are on a Ouija board trying to contact you. They're trying to get some information.
(L) This is getting too weird... [laughter] So, it would be useful for people to at least know as many of their ancestors as they can possibly know?
A: Yes and some ancestors are stronger than others.
Q: (L) So, if you have a strong recent ancestor, that's pretty good. So, in a certain sense, you could tune in to your ancestors and derive strength from them? Kind of like... a choir of angels sort of thing?
A: Close but don't go all woowoo on us now!
Q: [laughter] (Joe) If you're gonna tune in to your ancestors, you better pick the right one. Don’t be pickin' that one guy...
(Andromeda) The cowboy?
(Joe) The one who never slept in a bed.
(L) Oh, you mean my wonderful ancestor Bone Mizell. Well, he's not exactly an ancestor. He's like first cousin 4 times removed or something. He was first cousin to my great-great grandmother. And what a character!
(Joe) Well, that's why if you're gonna commune with them, you have to know as much about them as possible. Know which ones you don't want to get any advice from.

If some ancestors are stronger than other, it might relate to:
Session 13 July 2002

A: [...] What happens to a souled individual is different from an organic portal unit.

It is likely some ancestors will be organic portals, at least if one goes far enough back, and not only:
Session 23 September 2023

(Ze Germans) Do descendants of "undergrounders" who stay on the surface usually inherit their genetic tweaks and are being programmed by 4D STS with some new mission?

A: Yes

Q: (Ze Germans) How many descendants of undergrounders are there on the surface of Earth at the moment and what percentage of them are psychopaths?

(L) How many descendants of undergrounders? Well, that would be quite a lot. I mean, because if they're like descendants, you have two parents, you have four grandparents, you have whatever. It could be like millions of 'em. Multiple millions. Is that correct?

A: Yes

Q: (Andromeda) How many of them are psychopaths?

A: Same as regular population. Many of you are such descendants!

Q: (L) I mean, if they've been popping up out of the underground for thousands of years, how are you going to avoid it?

Given the possible variability among our ancestors, the following might apply:

I think people should find out if they have any ancestors or deceased relatives or somebody who were good and decent people who one can talk to mentally or communicate with by writing letters to them, or dream communication, and ask them for protection. - Yes
Session 18 May 2019

Q: (L) Alright, let's move on to the next item on my list. The next one is... I put this on the list, but I dunno if it should be there. I thought it was something that would be useful: to connect with ancestors and honored saintly type people in 5D for protection. I thought that that would be kind of a useful thing. I think people should find out if they have any ancestors or deceased relatives or somebody who were good and decent people who one can talk to mentally or communicate with by writing letters to them, or dream communication, and ask them for protection.

A: Yes

Q: (Ark) And if you can't find your ancestors, you have to find someone else's ancestors!

(L) Well, that's true. You can hook up with somebody who has good ancestors, and their ancestors become your ancestors by you having shared realities. You're opening up and sharing your worries and troubles. The good ancestors of any group or any one person in a group kind of become the good ancestors of other members of the group.

(Pierre) And here you mentioned not ALL your ancestors - just the good ones. The same is true for the saintly figures. I think people should be aware that there are many saints who were not saints and other people who were vilified who were actually good.

(L) There are saints who were made saints, but they weren't actually very good people. And then there are other saints who deserved that title. That's a good topic for discussion... not a C’s discussion, but rather a discussion amongst people. Another thing I thought it would be useful for people to do would be to guide the newly deceased. If there is somebody in your circle of acquaintances or group or whatever who is in the process of passing over or recently did pass over, you could in some way help guide them in the reality to which they may not be accustomed (obviously), but mainly because of their thought patterns during life. So many people in this materialist-driven world do not think that there is an afterlife or another world. When they get there, they don't know what to do! They don't even realize who or what they are or which way to go. Is that a good one?

A: Yes but for certain people obviously.

Q: (L) That's not something that everybody should do. But if you have a loved one who's dying, it's certainly not going to hurt to talk to them frankly about the process they're going through and what to expect.

As an example of someone who has help, higher level help:

Putin has higher level help. - From whom? - Ancestors and himself in the future and a lot lot LOT of knowledge and awareness.
Session 26 February 2022

(Felipe) Question about Russia: Will Anonymous hack Russian infrastructure and escalate things through those means?
A: Will try but little success.
Q: (Joe) Just for reference: Anonymous is the CIA.
(cinnamon) And the Ukrainian wheat probably isn't getting planted.
(L) Good point!
(Joe) For sure. Expect higher prices.
(L) Expect REALLY high prices.
(Niall) Ukraine is the 3rd biggest supplier of wheat on Earth.
(Joe) Between Ukraine and Russia, they produce 80% of the world's sunflower oil too.
[C's move to 'listen' on the board...]
A: How is it going to go down? Many variables, but Putin has higher level help.

Q: (Altair, Cosmos, Gawan) What do the C's mean that Putin has higher help? From whom?
A: Ancestors and himself in the future and a lot lot LOT of knowledge and awareness.

BTW, tomorrow, October 7 is the birthday of Vladimir Putin