DMSA for heavy metal detox - how long available?

[stellar]

Thanks, anarkist! Here are some interesting excerpts from http://www.dmsachelation.com/protocol/

DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier by itself. It needs to be combined with alpha-lipoic acid (very inexpensive at any pharmacy or walmart, walgreens etc) to do this. When all the mercury has been removed from the childs body THEN you can start removing it from the brain. This is the final stage. Do not add alpha-lipoic acid at the start of the DMSA treatment.

DMSA and the Blood Brain Barrier

As previously stated DMSA can NOT cross the blood brain barrier. One study exists with lab rats wherein the DMSA did cross the blood brain barrier. However these test animals were so toxic that their normal functioning was greatly impaired. The results have never been duplicated so its safe to say that DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier. DMSA must be taken in conjunction with alpha-lipoic acid to cross the blood brain barrier. After you have chelated the heavy metals from your body (know as ‘lowering your body burden’) you should then add alpha-lipoic acid with your DMSA to pull the mercury and other metals from your brain.

So at which point in the cycle can I add the ALA according to this protocol? Or should I complete all 6 cycles and then add ALA to the supplement list?

 

[anartist]

Thanks, anarkist! Here are some interesting excerpts from http://www.dmsachelation.com/protocol/

DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier by itself. It needs to be combined with alpha-lipoic acid (very inexpensive at any pharmacy or walmart, walgreens etc) to do this. When all the mercury has been removed from the childs body THEN you can start removing it from the brain. This is the final stage. Do not add alpha-lipoic acid at the start of the DMSA treatment.

DMSA and the Blood Brain Barrier

As previously stated DMSA can NOT cross the blood brain barrier. One study exists with lab rats wherein the DMSA did cross the blood brain barrier. However these test animals were so toxic that their normal functioning was greatly impaired. The results have never been duplicated so its safe to say that DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier. DMSA must be taken in conjunction with alpha-lipoic acid to cross the blood brain barrier. After you have chelated the heavy metals from your body (know as ‘lowering your body burden’) you should then add alpha-lipoic acid with your DMSA to pull the mercury and other metals from your brain.

So at which point in the cycle can I add the ALA according to this protocol? Or should I complete all 6 cycles and then add ALA to the supplement list?

I would think that once you have finished the 3 day DMSA cycle, you could take ALA for the next 11 days as you are no longer ingesting DMSA. However, if there is still DMSA circulating in the blood stream that may be a factor. Best to look up how long DMSA stays in the blood, I will try to find out.

 

[Altair]

Thanks, anarkist! Here are some interesting excerpts from http://www.dmsachelation.com/protocol/

DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier by itself. It needs to be combined with alpha-lipoic acid (very inexpensive at any pharmacy or walmart, walgreens etc) to do this. When all the mercury has been removed from the childs body THEN you can start removing it from the brain. This is the final stage. Do not add alpha-lipoic acid at the start of the DMSA treatment.

DMSA and the Blood Brain Barrier

As previously stated DMSA can NOT cross the blood brain barrier. One study exists with lab rats wherein the DMSA did cross the blood brain barrier. However these test animals were so toxic that their normal functioning was greatly impaired. The results have never been duplicated so its safe to say that DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier. DMSA must be taken in conjunction with alpha-lipoic acid to cross the blood brain barrier. After you have chelated the heavy metals from your body (know as ‘lowering your body burden’) you should then add alpha-lipoic acid with your DMSA to pull the mercury and other metals from your brain.

So at which point in the cycle can I add the ALA according to this protocol? Or should I complete all 6 cycles and then add ALA to the supplement list?

Dietrich Klinghardt mentioned in one of his videos that he recommends to take ALA only in the last 3 (out of 6) cycles: first detox tissues from mercury and then brain.

 

[Altair]

Thanks, anarkist! Here are some interesting excerpts from http://www.dmsachelation.com/protocol/

DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier by itself. It needs to be combined with alpha-lipoic acid (very inexpensive at any pharmacy or walmart, walgreens etc) to do this. When all the mercury has been removed from the childs body THEN you can start removing it from the brain. This is the final stage. Do not add alpha-lipoic acid at the start of the DMSA treatment.

DMSA and the Blood Brain Barrier

As previously stated DMSA can NOT cross the blood brain barrier. One study exists with lab rats wherein the DMSA did cross the blood brain barrier. However these test animals were so toxic that their normal functioning was greatly impaired. The results have never been duplicated so its safe to say that DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier. DMSA must be taken in conjunction with alpha-lipoic acid to cross the blood brain barrier. After you have chelated the heavy metals from your body (know as ‘lowering your body burden’) you should then add alpha-lipoic acid with your DMSA to pull the mercury and other metals from your brain.

So at which point in the cycle can I add the ALA according to this protocol? Or should I complete all 6 cycles and then add ALA to the supplement list?

I would think that once you have finished the 3 day DMSA cycle, you could take ALA for the next 11 days as you are no longer ingesting DMSA. However, if there is still DMSA circulating in the blood stream that may be a factor. Best to look up how long DMSA stays in the blood, I will try to find out.

Circulation time of DMSA in the blood stream is 4 hours, as far as I know.

 

[stellar]

Thanks, anarkist! Here are some interesting excerpts from http://www.dmsachelation.com/protocol/

DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier by itself. It needs to be combined with alpha-lipoic acid (very inexpensive at any pharmacy or walmart, walgreens etc) to do this. When all the mercury has been removed from the childs body THEN you can start removing it from the brain. This is the final stage. Do not add alpha-lipoic acid at the start of the DMSA treatment.

DMSA and the Blood Brain Barrier

As previously stated DMSA can NOT cross the blood brain barrier. One study exists with lab rats wherein the DMSA did cross the blood brain barrier. However these test animals were so toxic that their normal functioning was greatly impaired. The results have never been duplicated so its safe to say that DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier. DMSA must be taken in conjunction with alpha-lipoic acid to cross the blood brain barrier. After you have chelated the heavy metals from your body (know as ‘lowering your body burden’) you should then add alpha-lipoic acid with your DMSA to pull the mercury and other metals from your brain.

So at which point in the cycle can I add the ALA according to this protocol? Or should I complete all 6 cycles and then add ALA to the supplement list?

I would think that once you have finished the 3 day DMSA cycle, you could take ALA for the next 11 days as you are no longer ingesting DMSA. However, if there is still DMSA circulating in the blood stream that may be a factor. Best to look up how long DMSA stays in the blood, I will try to find out.

Circulation time of DMSA in the blood stream is 4 hours, as far as I know.

Yes, I think I also understood that the half life was four hours. Thanks for your replies.
I think what I will do is have 24 hour gap between DMSA and the supplements just to be sure there is no interference and I'll add ALA in the last 3 cycles as suggested.

 

[hlat]

Thanks, anarkist! Here are some interesting excerpts from http://www.dmsachelation.com/protocol/

DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier by itself. It needs to be combined with alpha-lipoic acid (very inexpensive at any pharmacy or walmart, walgreens etc) to do this. When all the mercury has been removed from the childs body THEN you can start removing it from the brain. This is the final stage. Do not add alpha-lipoic acid at the start of the DMSA treatment.

DMSA and the Blood Brain Barrier

As previously stated DMSA can NOT cross the blood brain barrier. One study exists with lab rats wherein the DMSA did cross the blood brain barrier. However these test animals were so toxic that their normal functioning was greatly impaired. The results have never been duplicated so its safe to say that DMSA cannot cross the blood brain barrier. DMSA must be taken in conjunction with alpha-lipoic acid to cross the blood brain barrier. After you have chelated the heavy metals from your body (know as ‘lowering your body burden’) you should then add alpha-lipoic acid with your DMSA to pull the mercury and other metals from your brain.

So at which point in the cycle can I add the ALA according to this protocol? Or should I complete all 6 cycles and then add ALA to the supplement list?

I would include ALA from the start because I would not change the protocol based solely on language from dmsachelation. I had a problem with them when they sold me a bottle with the wrong expiration date and wanted me to take their word for it that the expiration date was good. I resisted, and then they sent me a new bottle with the correct expiration after I sent back the bottle with the wrong date.

 

[stellar]

It doesn't really give a clear timing of shelf life on the site. Being a dry product and provided it is stored properly I wander what determines its shelf life or is it just based on sales i.e. if it is not used within a year of purchase you have to buy a fresh bottle. And it ain't cheap!

 

[hlat]

It doesn't really give a clear timing of shelf life on the site. Being a dry product and provided it is stored properly I wander what determines its shelf life or is it just based on sales i.e. if it is not used within a year of purchase you have to buy a fresh bottle. And it ain't cheap!

Selling medicine or supplements with incorrect expiration dates is a bad practice, and I think it is something that a seller should pretend to take seriously.

 

[canavare]

Does anyone has any experience with MANC for heavy metal detox?

What is MANC?
Clinoptilolite is a negatively charged natural substance derived from volcanic rock. Using a process called tribo-mechanical micronisation, clinoptilolite is cleaned, purified and refined to make it safe for humans. What comes out of the process is Modified and Activated Natural Clinoptilolite (MANC).

All TOXAPREVENT® products are based around the patented active ingredient MANC, which has the extraordinary ability to selectively bind and remove toxic substances, including histamine, heavy metals and toxins, from the body via ion exchange, without being absorbed by the body. For these two very important reasons, TOXAPREVENT® can be used to prevent, treat and alleviate a wide range of conditions.

Best of all, MANC is not absorbed by the body so it has no direct side effects.

In tests resembling the large intestine, MANC was added to a liquid substance filled with lead. 98% of the toxic substance adhered to it. The following graph shows how much of each toxic substance also adhered to MANC. By binding with these substances in the digestive tract or on skin, MANC ensures they too will not be absorbed by the body and relieves it of the toxic burden.

_http://www.toxaprevent.co.uk/products/what-manc

 

[anartist]

Does anyone has any experience with MANC for heavy metal detox?

What is MANC?
Clinoptilolite is a negatively charged natural substance derived from volcanic rock. Using a process called tribo-mechanical micronisation, clinoptilolite is cleaned, purified and refined to make it safe for humans. What comes out of the process is Modified and Activated Natural Clinoptilolite (MANC).

All TOXAPREVENT® products are based around the patented active ingredient MANC, which has the extraordinary ability to selectively bind and remove toxic substances, including histamine, heavy metals and toxins, from the body via ion exchange, without being absorbed by the body. For these two very important reasons, TOXAPREVENT® can be used to prevent, treat and alleviate a wide range of conditions.

Best of all, MANC is not absorbed by the body so it has no direct side effects.

In tests resembling the large intestine, MANC was added to a liquid substance filled with lead. 98% of the toxic substance adhered to it. The following graph shows how much of each toxic substance also adhered to MANC. By binding with these substances in the digestive tract or on skin, MANC ensures they too will not be absorbed by the body and relieves it of the toxic burden.

_http://www.toxaprevent.co.uk/products/what-manc

sounds a lot like Zeolite
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/cancers-in-general/cancer-questions/what-is-cellular-zeolite
Cellular zeolite is an alternative therapy. It comes from a volcanic mineral called clinoptilolite, which is found in some soils. It is sold as a finely ground powder in a liquid, that you have as a drink.

 

[stellar]

I'm on day four of my first cycle and appear to have had some reactions already.
A colourless rash just below the back of my neck on day one, mildly itchy and has persisted but not worsened although today the itch is not there
Stools have been loose and darker than normal.
Some bloating and fatigue but quite tolerable.
Yesterday a massive migraine all day with some burning sensation at the nape of the neck so that toward evening I had to take 1advil to ease the pain.
Feeling fine this morning although a little 'slow' in my actions.
Appetite has been really low the whole time.

My daily supp programme looks like this other than the DMSA of the 3 out of 14 days:

4.30am 200g DMSA

6am Berrie smoothie with avocado & coconut oil + ALA 2g, NAC 2g, Selenium 150mg, E !00IU, Taurine 500mg, Cysteine 2g

9am Zinc+Pau D'Arco with herbal tea

11am 200g DMSA

12noon Lunch (fish or chicken with greens, spices & olive oil) + Potassium with iodine + Calcium/K2/vit D3 (600mg/90mg/500IU)

3.30pm DMSA 200g

6pm Dinner (fish or pork or chicken) + Boron, Folic Acid (May change that to Folinic Acid)

7pm Melatonin

8pm Magnesium

8.30pm BED

 

[Joe]

Thought I'd bump this thread since it relates to the iodine thread. Since I suspect that the iodine I took released a bunch of mercury etc. into my system, I decided to start DMSA today. Took 200mgs a few hours ago and will take 200mgs more this evening before bed. Right after taking the first dose I jumped in the FAR infrared sauna for an hour to help with the detox. I'll continue tomorrow with 3 x 200mgs and then the day after and call that my first cycle. It's a smaller amount than recommended but I'd rather take it easy on the first one.

 

[Joe]

After two days (today's my third) of a relatively low dose of DMSA (200mgs twice a day) along with garlic, ALA, glutathione, spirulina, (and other basics) I'm prepared to *tentatively* say that my symptoms of mercury toxicity are clearing up. The fact that I came down with flu-like symptoms 3 days ago isn't helping of course, but I think that too is subsiding.

 

[T.C.]

Hi Perceval

I found this interview from Mercola with a mercury detox specialist. Might be useful for some more info and there's a transcript link under the vid. The guy started out studying environmental toxicity before moving into the clinical side of it:

_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/13/mercury-detoxification-protocol.aspx

Synopsis:

Your body is designed to detoxify mercury and other heavy metals. An impaired metabolism can lead to mercury toxicity

Your two principal sources of mercury exposure are inorganic mercury from dental amalgams and methylmercury from seafood consumption; these two types of mercury differ in their toxicity levels, biological effects and detoxification pathways

Traditional mercury testing that only relies on blood, urine or hair is riddled with problems, but a new test that combines all three methods is far more accurate. The new test uses mercury speciation (the separation of different forms of mercury during analysis, which tells you what types of mercury you have on board, from what sources, and which of your natural detoxification pathways may not be working properly

My revised mercury detoxification protocol is presented in detail; this protocol, incorporating the work of Dr. Chris Shade, supports your glutathione system and all of the enzymes and transporter proteins that must be working properly if your body is to efficiently cleanse itself of mercury

 

[Persej]

Speaking of garlic, in my country there is a product that claims to be even better that normal garlic, and it contains wild garlic:

_http://www.ramslin.com/article/wild-garlic.html

Wild Garlic oxidizes mercury, cadmium and lead making these metals water-soluble. It protects the white and red blood cells from oxidative damage. It protects from both arteriosclerosis and intestinal infections, worms and bloating, and may be taken after antibiotics to recreate the balance of the intestinal flora.

Wild Garlic contains sulphur compounds. In metabolism, sulphur-active connections play a decisive role. Enzyme systems become active with sulphur. The creation of nitrosamines is prevented and the removal of heavy metals like mercury and cadmium are achieved directly by making them insoluble and indirect by activating the enzyme systems.

Wild Garlic is the plant with the highest sulphur content in Europe – one reason, why holistic dentists often use wild garlic supplements in combination with chlorella-algae to detoxify after amalgam removals. To release heavy metals from the connective tissue, you need wild garlic. The easiest and most flavour-neutral form is Wild Garlic Drops.

Wild Garlic mainly contains ethereally oil, consisting of Vinyl sulphide, Alliin, Allicin, Vinylpolysulphides, Mercaptan, Iodine and sea salts.

Alliin is a sulphurous substance, which oxidises to the medicinally effective Allicin as soon as it gets in contact with aerial oxygen (when crushed). Allicin – which is responsible for the typical garlic smell- is known as a natural antibiotic and is able to kill fungi. It has been proven to help with the treatment of skin impurities, acne, eczema and various skin rashes.

It helps when suffering due to worms and fermentation in the gastrointestinal tract, digestive complaints, diarrhoea and high blood pressure; it stimulates the appetite and lowers cholesterol. It protects from both arteriosclerosis and intestinal infections, which often occur when travelling to foreign countries.

Wild garlic detoxifies lead, which in today’s industrialisation is especially important for people in city and commercial areas. Additional health benefits include high levels of Vitamin C and ethereally oil.

Wild Garlic is a natural antibiotic substance.

1/10.000 grams of Wild Garlic have the same effect as 25 units of Penicillin. Wild Garlic is much healthier!

Wikipedia doesn't talk much about it's benefits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allium_ursinum

So this wild garlic is supposedly good for heavy metal chelation, is natural antibiotic, and they also say on one slide that it is good for tachycardia problems (which I have). So I think I'm gonna try this thing.