Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

does anyone think it would make EE less effective if i listen to the audio with headphones? i seem to like it better this way, i think it's because its more private, and living in an apartment, i don't need the neighbors hearing "ba hah" through the walls and thinking "what the f is going on in there?" LOL. no but seriously, do you guys think headphones make a difference?
 
An update on the EE guide/faq

I am trying my best to release the EE guide tonight, due to some interferences, I had been delayed in some work.

If you don't see it tonight, it will be up Monday, thanks for your patience guys.

Some small info about it, the EE guide will have the symptoms of the EE program, it will have important answers to important questions and, it will also consist of TIPS.

All this gets updated every time as new data shows up.
 
abstract said:
does anyone think it would make EE less effective if i listen to the audio with headphones? i seem to like it better this way, i think it's because its more private, and living in an apartment, i don't need the neighbors hearing "ba hah" through the walls and thinking "what the f is going on in there?" LOL. no but seriously, do you guys think headphones make a difference?

I think earphones are totally fine! I would use them myself in many situations.
 
Laura said:
abstract said:
does anyone think it would make EE less effective if i listen to the audio with headphones? i seem to like it better this way, i think it's because its more private, and living in an apartment, i don't need the neighbors hearing "ba hah" through the walls and thinking "what the f is going on in there?" LOL. no but seriously, do you guys think headphones make a difference?

I think earphones are totally fine! I would use them myself in many situations.

I always use earphones when doing the programme. Like you abstract, I think it makes it more intimate. If there was no one around in the house, I think I'd still use them anyway.
 
cool. btw, doing pipe breath in boring/stressful situations really helps me! kinda helps boring stuff go by faster and stressful stuff feel easier.
 
abstract said:
does anyone think it would make EE less effective if i listen to the audio with headphones? i seem to like it better this way, i think it's because its more private, and living in an apartment, i don't need the neighbors hearing "ba hah" through the walls and thinking "what the f is going on in there?" LOL. no but seriously, do you guys think headphones make a difference?

I've used the headphones during the EE program. With my hearing aid, I'd switched it to "phone" setting which would amplify the audio, so I'd hear nothing but the audio program as it's effective. At least, for me.
 
Since getting the CD of the Breathing-meditation programme I have used headphones to listen to the programme, it is much more effective than when i used small earphones with my iPod. It is also better than listening without the headphones, Laura is much 'closer'.
 
Lúthien said:
Laura said:
abstract said:
does anyone think it would make EE less effective if i listen to the audio with headphones? i seem to like it better this way, i think it's because its more private, and living in an apartment, i don't need the neighbors hearing "ba hah" through the walls and thinking "what the f is going on in there?" LOL. no but seriously, do you guys think headphones make a difference?

I think earphones are totally fine! I would use them myself in many situations.

I always use earphones when doing the programme. Like you abstract, I think it makes it more intimate. If there was no one around in the house, I think I'd still use them anyway.

I feel the same way and always use earphones myself. I noticed however that whenever i cry during meditation and breathing (mostly lately :cry: )
and i am lying down, my earphones get wet from tears streaming down the sides of my face. An inevitable side effect....
 
Just wanted to join in the conversation and share my experiences with the breathing program. It took a while to get the energy and the guts to actually do it. A month ago, that was an insurmountable difficulty - now it seems a lot easier.

I was in the proper exercise mode by mid-August but took it slowly at first and then built up to that point. First, I made sure that I understood the basic diaphragm breathing which was the easy part - we were introduced to it in high school as a means of stress management. I used to do little breaths before bedtime and meditate by imagining a candle flame due to trouble with falling asleep.

The introduction of pipe breath really shocked me. The thing is I'd somehow stumbled upon it during a very stressful moment - I stood up, spread my feet apart and let out this "cat hiss". If you've ever heard a cat get annoyed and spikey - with that hissy sound - that's what it sounded like. It kinda felt good and relieved the stress so I kept doing it occasionally. The pipe breath is very similar although a bit lower and maybe less intense (plus, the teeth don't show, lol).

To start I needed to work around my laziness and habits. First, I watched the video a few times and it seemed OK - so I repeated the stretches and the little warm-up exercises. Well, that encouraged me to go further and little bits of breathing followed. "Not so bad," I thought - soon enough I did my first session. The headphones really are a great idea - external consideration is important but I also think it is for protection and privacy (having had some problems with neighbours).

So once, I started doing the program what happened?

It's work in progress, of course, but there are already some tangible results. The inner calm is starting to come back. I've noticed that events that would upset me greatly in the past seem less jarring nowadays - mainly in interpersonal relationships and at work. I'm able to take a few steps back and think before saying or doing things. Also, I'm taking control of my life but find that I can also be very pushy and need to work on that a bit more. Physical activity does help here. Also, the mind seems clearer and the thoughts are sharper.

There were some dramatic changes, too. For example, I've just moved to a new apartment. The previous place was rather dreary and I was stuck there for 6 years. Cassies mentioned the need to detox the body, the mind and the environment - I didn't realise how much that applied to me until I took 400kgs of rubbish to the tip yard while moving (mostly paper notes and electronics). That alone was amazingly cleansing.

I've also started to re-evaluate my friendships. The further I go, the more I realise that I actually have very few friends. Yes, I may know a lot of people but they're not real friends. Even those I associated myself with for something like 5 years started to fade out of my life. Their lifestyle choices were too incompatible to mine and even though it sounds selfish, it's like more harm came to me from those relationships than anywhere else. This is another area of my life that needs more work and insight.

With other people in my life, the opposite is true. I find more patience to understand and see their issues and how I can help them in achieving their potential. To what extent that is a mere self-centred projection remains to be seen.

After the first couple of weeks, me throat became very sore and I had to use an antiseptic gargle to get rid of a nasty bacterial infection. It was painful to do pipe breathing because it was located at just the right spot, right over the "tongue hump" - but I kept at it and eventually it went away.

I have no major problems staying awake during the breathing or the meditation, except a few times where I did it tired and my body just wanted to rest. For that reason, I rarely do it before bedtime and try to do some Work before sleeping (e.g., right now). Having a proper meal during the day is important too, otherwise I run out of blood sugar and feel weak and clammy. I salivate lots too, although recently it is getting better. Having a warm blanket nearby is a good idea as by the meditation part, I tend to feel cold.

Any weirdness?

Well, yes - kind of - I cannot be sure about anything. A few times (twice maybe), I had some random visions during round breathing, some flat looking people (2D) against a 3D landscape. I also went into a very "zoned out" state a couple of times which is hard to describe but it was not loss of consciousness - I sort of separated from the body and felt very relaxed.

The most dramatic one was shortly before my move. I did the full program one evening and woke up the next morning with an open wound on my forehead. I looked in the mirror and there it was - a 1.5cm diagonal scratch, directly at the extension of my nose line, right below the hair line. It was pretty deep and the meat was exposed but there was no blood at all. I now have a "Harry Potter" scar and still can't figure out what happened. The explanation can be very mundane - although I have no idea what it might be.

This is getting rather long so I'll stop here. There's more, of course (e.g., auditory sensations) but I might leave it for later. Just wanted to share and start participating more with others. I'm still work in progress but so far the results are very encouraging. The changes that began to happen after starting the program - and the diet - are very tangible and exciting. In time, I feel it will only get more interesting.

At the moment, I do the full program twice a week and that's it. I intend to up the ante by adding daily prayer and pipe breaths as opposing blocks lift further.

A big Thank You to Laura and the team for putting the program together. Thanks to the participants of the forum for being open - that sets a very good example to follow.

My motivation to keep going is - what will happen next? What else am I not seeing? :cool2:
 
Well something is definately going on. I just don't know what yet. I feel like my higher self is organizing all this stuff and I'm still out of the loop. It's intersting the C's say: "A: Whether they realize it or not, they are making dramatic progress." because half the time I sense something, but am clueless as to whether I'm actually moving forward or not.

The first few months there were lots of internal changes, with diet etc, now it seems there are lots of external changes, such as meeting old friends and interacting with people. I get the feeling it's just beginning...

I'm trying to be more aware of when I zone out. I zoned out today during the baha but I didn't realize it so when I came back, in the middle of the prayer, I just kept right on huffing and puffing. :rotfl:

A while ago during the meditation I saw something leave me and go into a vortex that appeared briefly. An attachment maybe? I guess they have no place to stay when the house gets swept clean.
 
abstract said:
does anyone think it would make EE less effective if i listen to the audio with headphones? i seem to like it better this way, i think it's because its more private, and living in an apartment, i don't need the neighbors hearing "ba hah" through the walls and thinking "what the f is going on in there?" LOL. no but seriously, do you guys think headphones make a difference?

Not only do i use headphones but i do the whole programs lying down. I have a scoliosis of the spine that makes it hard for me to do the whole program while sitting down. I tried it and it makes me too uncomfortable, so i prefer to do it laying down. I don't know if it's allright to do it this way but i seem to get the same sensations as the others like zoning out sometimes, feelings of tingling... etc.

Last week i had a feeling of pressure on the forehead and it was not during the program, but at work while working. the only time i have felt this was the first time i did the EE program. Has anyone felt this yet? it's like a pulsating pressure that lasts 3-4 sec at different times.

Last thursday, i came home from work with a pounding headache because they used chemichals to clean the place. I was not really in the mood to do the EE but i told myself i would do only the pipe breathing and the pots because i didn't want to put pressure especially with the warriors breath with my headache. As i started, i found it difficult but i managed to do the pipe B, then i convinced myself and decided to do the warriors B anyway. It went well actually. During the ba-ha i found it long and hard as my headache was stilll there but i held on. It was during the pots that, after i had zoned out a couple of times, i realized that my headache was completely gone. I don't know about you but it works in mysterious way and maybe it is not only for the emotionnal cleansing.
 
y'know, it's funny, i rarely zone out during the program...i've zoned out maybe once or twice, but never significantly. the only time i have issues doing the program lately is if i have to cough during breathing or forgot to take a bathroom break before starting. i noticed i have a massive difficulty with the program if i try to sit up straight and do it, i rather prefer a comfy chair to sit in or lay down. the ba-ha is still kind of intense, but it doesn't really freak me out anymore with that tingle sensation, since i know it's just a physical "symptom" (for lack of better term). POTS is way easier now too, i have it memorized, but i think i'm having trouble with it still, i must confess, when i was younger (and still christian) my mother would make me pray and i thought it was really stupid to pray because to me, nothing ever happened, even if i prayed about something for days (but children are not very patient, eh?) so maybe i'm still sub-consciously telling myself how stupid it is to pray...not that it has no effect. i just think i have a negative image of prayer still stuck in my head somewhere.
 
i just think i have a negative image of prayer still stuck in my head somewhere.

Hi abstract,

Regarding the Prayer of the Soul, try to keep this in mind:

[QUOTE author=Statement of Principles of the Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind]
6.3. On Meditation

We recognize the physiological, psychological, and spiritual benefits of regular practice of meditation “with seed” in conjunction with breathing exercises, while repudiating passive forms of meditation that encourage “emptying” the mind. When you sweep the house and leave it clean, if you do not decide what to put back in, then others will do it for you. Similarly, passive meditative states leave one open to negative influences, which is prevented by meditation with a powerful “seed”, such as the Prayer of the Soul. Regular practice of the Fellowship’s Eiriu Eolas program, when accompanied by regular participation in knowledge-increasing activities, results in a parallel growth in awareness and Being. Eiriu Eolas facilitates the release of emotional blockages and karmic burdens, cleansing the soul of its hindrances to True Being.[/QUOTE]
 
an update on the EE guide faq, it's finished and it's in the process of being posted, need to add lots of [ b ] and make it a bit colourfull, :scooter:

EDIT: :cry: : after having posted this I accidently clicked on the x of the browser instead of minimizing it and deleted the entire preview, it just happened, :headbash: but good thing I got it saved in words, only thing is that 30 min of colourfull editing has gone wasted, ah well no rush!
 
MC, I am aware of what the statement and principles says about meditation, i can't argue with that. i just wonder if it's keeping me from making progress? that was the only concern tied to the POTS.
 

Trending content

Back
Top Bottom