Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Vulcan59]

Hi Alvydas,

Welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, how they found the cass material, and how much of the work here they have read. Thanks.

 

[Jacques]

Laura, big thanks from Russia! I am a Russian guy, a translator.

Hi Alvydas,

If one day you are interested in helping us in translating the work of Laura, you could go here and read what to do to become a SOTT translator.

 

[Divide by Zero]

I've not been getting any visions during the program. Just strange random dreams, for example: I was with a friend and he was getting secretly married in the mountains(?), another dream I was flying to Europe and found out my cellphone didn't work there so I was stuck at the airport, haha.

It seems easy for me to follow the breathing, and I don't zone out. Sometimes I start thinking about things from work, or an issue with my car etc. It doesn't pull me away from following the breathing though

After the meditation, I can sometimes be a bit irritable. Example: with my father, who speaks a bit too loud at times- I guess being relaxed, the loudness of his speech startles me.


I have also noticed empty eyes... my boss looks like a younger Madoff, and acts like one too. Same kind of black hole like eyes too.. it's pretty scary. The meditation helped me keep my calm one night when he called me and a new guy into his office regarding something we didn't do (but weren't told to do!). I was able to stay neutral as I was told by senior co workers that he enjoys intimidating people. We didn't get in trouble even though I did not follow his statement that we were told to do the task. He likes to say that he said things that he didn't and deny saying things that he did. He even has his bosses under his thumb!

 

[wanderer]

Certainly humility is called for, since we have no idea what the experiences and emotions arising from the work really mean or if they represent spiritual growth at all.

Sorry, The phrase "we have no idea" was a poor choice of words. What I should have said is that I don't know what the experiences and emotions arising from the work really mean, and I try to observe them without spinning my own web of meaning around them.

 

[Beorn]

Do you think it is possible that fear can prevent your higher self from working with you?

I was doing the meditation a couple of days ago and realized I was sabotaging my own growth. I would fight and wiggle, or hit the panic button whenever anything slightly out of the ordinary happened.

The last couple of days I've tried to just let go and let my higher self do whatever needs to be done. I'm a little nervous now, but in a good way...

 

[ana]

Do you think it is possible that fear can prevent your higher self from working with you?

I was doing the meditation a couple of days ago and realized I was sabotaging my own growth. I would fight and wiggle, or hit the panic button whenever anything slightly out of the ordinary happened.

I do felt fear MANY times, I think it was because of my mechanical aptitude (program) of wanting to control every situation without letting things just happen, trusting in my ability to solve if necessary.

The last couple of days I've tried to just let go and let my higher self do whatever needs to be done. I'm a little nervous now, but in a good way...

Seems to me that's the best approach, meditate stopping all programs and mechanical mental processes (just being) in order to let higher self heal what is needed to be healed.

 

[Ollie]

An update: this week’s feedback on doing the Breathing-Meditation work. A mixed week of experiences for me, yet a very instructive week.

For the first time, during the full Breathing-Meditation programmes I have managed to avoid zoning out during Laura’s recital of the Prayer of the Soul. This listening through the recital normally only happens during the bedtime ‘meditation after’ an earlier full session during the evening. However, I was zoning out during the Ba-Ha breathing, in the form of stopping breathing. Perseverance was required to successfully get back on track.

I think the physical manifestation has crept up on me; perhaps it was there before this week started. The knuckles on my right hand are dry, rough and hard. What is definitely new this week is that I’ve noticed that the skin problem has started to spread to my left hand.

Reference Louise Hay, in You Can Heal Your Life,

Right side of the body – Giving out, letting go, masculine energy, men, the father.

Skin problems – Anxiety, fear. Old, buried guck. I am being threatened.

Eczema – Breath – taking in antagonism. Mental emphasis.

Left side of the body – Represents receptivity, taking in, feminine energy, women, the mother.

The Predator’s mind appears to be hanging on for dear life in my-self, avoiding letting go and at the same time refusing to take in.

Reference Lise Bourbeau, in Your body’s telling you: Love yourself!

HAND PROBLEMS
EMOTIONAL BLOCK
… The hands, as well as the arms, are an extension of the heart region, therefore … in the hands indicates that what is being done is not being done out of love, especially self-love. The hands must be used to express love for yourself as well as love for others.

The left hand is linked to receiving and the right hand to giving. … you are out of touch with your needs and heart’s desires. You are holding back from doing what you really want to do with your hands.

MENTAL BLOCK
If … experienced in the left hand, examine what you feel about receiving. Are you afraid to receive a helping hand? Do you receive with love and gratitude or do you feel that you are obliged to return the favor in order to avoid looking ungrateful or selfish? Do you believe it is impossible for someone to give you something without wanting something from you in return? Your belief system is creating an obstacle to enjoyment. Learn to receive graciously and openly, with the understanding that you are a special person whom others like to give to and you deserve it.

If … experience in the right hand, examine what you feel in regard to giving. Do you give with strings attached or out of obligation? Are you apprehensive about giving a helping hand to others? Do you hold back because you feel others will take advantage of your generosity and because you find it difficult to say no? Do you feel that you need to do everything yourself? Learn to give simply for the pleasure of giving. If it is not well received, understand that the other person may simply not have the same tastes and desires you have and accept that for what it is.

… in the hands may be linked to your attitude abut your work. The hands should always be used with love and pleasure; … Allow yourself to take situations in hand without fear of being taken advantage of. You have all the necessary tools to face that situation if it arises.

If the … in your hands is preventing you from doing something you like … see which fear is behind that. Is it still justified considering who you have become? Get in touch with simple pleasures, perhaps childhood pleasures that you sense a longing for. Allow yourself to indulge them without fear of being judged.

SKIN DISORDERS
EMOTIONAL BLOCK
The skin is linked closely to self-image and reflects this to the outside world. …

All skin disorders are manifestations of shame and self-depreciation. You pay too much attention to how others see you and to their judgment of you. You tend to identify what is outside of you, rather than simply being yourself.

Generally, you are very sensitive to what goes on around you and are easily touched by situations involving others, although you have difficulty loving and accepting your-self as you are.

[…]

If your skin condition is superficial, affecting only the epidermis, … it indicates difficulty in getting through a separation, a loss of contact or communication. Such loss is interpreted as rejection and is viewed as final. You tend to be a rescuer or protector, especially of the opposite sex.

[…]

MENTAL BLOCK
[…]

You body is sending you an important message to be more gentle and accepting of yourself. Allow yourself to be human and learn to love yourself in all your humanness, with all its fears and limitations, weaknesses and insecurities. You have the right to make a decision, without guilt, that would help you save your own skin – even if it means displeasing those you love. Your worth is determined by the quality of your own heart, from the person you are in the innermost recesses of your soul, not by what goes on in the physical world.

ECZEMA
… indicates a lack of confidence or inner balance. You experience a general feeling of anxiety and uncertainty in your life and about your future.

And, I seem to recall from Time Line Therapy that skin problems were to do with boundaries; relationships with people.

There is plenty of material here to think about, to Work with. It’s fun climbing the path on this side of the mountain; you certainly get to see the sights (limiting decisions or buffers). So, I guess it’s now time to ‘knuckle down’, get on with the Work job and fight it! The Predator’s mind, that is.

As an aside, externally, I’ve just bought a shredder to shred an accumulation of old confidential documents that are no longer required. I wonder what this symbolically implies for within … As a way of moving forward?

 

[shijing]

Just a very quick comment: I know that hiccups are not a form of attack, but after today I feel like they should be considered such! I got them in the middle of the round-breathing, and they didn't go away until toward the end of the Prayer of the Soul. I don't know if the Lizards could have done any worse had they tried. Next time you get the hiccups, try meditating -- it sucks Sorry to interrupt the thread with a really mundane comment -- I just had to vent.

 

[truth seeker]

For the last week, I've been having some pain in the solar plexus area. Last night it increased a bit. I don't feel concerned or anything just giving an update.

edit: spelling

 

[Marcus-Aurelius]

[quote author= Trevizent]What is definitely new this week is that I’ve noticed that the skin problem has started to spread to my left hand.[/quote]
Same here. Was thinking it was due to a medecine I took last week and for which skin problem was listed as as secondary effect, but perhaps should I consider other causes as well? Thank you for your quotes Trevizent, really interesting and worth exploring further, especially those on reply#1500 which am still disgesting:

But constatation has another effect that is of primary importance: the immediate dissociation of the components which constitute the negative emotion liberates the energy SI-12 which the passions had drawn into the motor centre; a result of constatation is that this is automatically concentrated in the emotional centre which it then sets in motion. We know that normal the intensive work of this centre is carried out with the aid of the fine energy of the 12th degree. A victory over negative emotion brings an inflow of joy into the lower emotional centre. This joy is an expression of the abundance of the energy SI-12 released by constatation. This latter makes the lower emotional centre vibrate at the rapid rhythm that is normal to it, and this enables the establishment of instantaneous contact with the higher emotional centre and triggers the release of a current of energy SOL-12 from the latter. This indicated that, correctly practiced through introspection and effective within the limits of the individual Present, constatation enables man to win a total victory. The inflow of higher joy that is the current of energy SOL-12 liberates can then transmute the energy of SI-12 freed from the mixture with SOL-12 by induction. The duration of contact between the lower and higher emotional centres established by this can be prolonged.

Don't know, but seems like am experiencing more of these inflows of joy lately, and if that is really the case, think I should thank the breathing program for that. And the physical sensation connected with this is like an electrical vibration coming from the junction point of my abdomen and my chest to the entire body. Don't having had this before.

It is at this point of evolution that the neophyte will find the obvious utility of those who are hostile to him. As long as he is on the Staircase it is in insults, hate, jealousy, treachery, and the contempt of other men that the faithful finds the elements necessary for him to awaken his emotional centre. By dominating the mechanical reactions that the reproaches and attacks of others may produce in him, someone who struggles between the two Thresholds separates and rejects the elements which are parasites on the fine energy mobilized by the negative emotions. We repeat: it is this energy which, having become available, allows the establishment of a contact with the higher emotional centre and accelerates the growth and development of the magnetic centre. The faithful finds in this struggle the source of energy that is indispensible to him in order to progress.He will then understand that he can and must love his enemies and bless those who curse him.

Perhaps that was the reason why Castaneda said that anyone who does not have a petty tyrant in his direct environment ought to go out and find one. :)

 

[Sonrisa]

Quote
It is at this point of evolution that the neophyte will find the obvious utility of those who are hostile to him. As long as he is on the Staircase it is in insults, hate, jealousy, treachery, and the contempt of other men that the faithful finds the elements necessary for him to awaken his emotional centre. By dominating the mechanical reactions that the reproaches and attacks of others may produce in him, someone who struggles between the two Thresholds separates and rejects the elements which are parasites on the fine energy mobilized by the negative emotions. We repeat: it is this energy which, having become available, allows the establishment of a contact with the higher emotional centre and accelerates the growth and development of the magnetic centre. The faithful finds in this struggle the source of energy that is indispensible to him in order to progress.He will then understand that he can and must love his enemies and bless those who curse him.

Perhaps that was the reason why Castaneda said that anyone who does not have a petty tyrant in his direct environment ought to go out and find one.

Maybe this is why it seems that the the petty tyrants in my life have stepped up their attacks recently. I found that with the most recent attack, my reaction was much more calm than it used to be - which feels much better than getting angry. Feels different. Like the "button" that the petty tyrant used to push has been shrunk down, so my response is way toned down, too.

 

[Gertrudes]

Just a very quick comment: I know that hiccups are not a form of attack, but after today I feel like they should be considered such! I got them in the middle of the round-breathing, and they didn't go away until toward the end of the Prayer of the Soul. I don't know if the Lizards could have done any worse had they tried. Next time you get the hiccups, try meditating -- it sucks Sorry to interrupt the thread with a really mundane comment -- I just had to vent.

Hi Shijing, try compressing the very beginning of your nose (the extremity closer to the eyes) between your fingers. It works for me every time.

For the last week, I've been having some pain in the solar plexus area. Last night it increased a bit. I don't feel concerned or anything just giving an update.

edit: spelling

Something similar for me. Not really pain, but a sensation that I described previously about my chest, bordering deep heat or deep cold spreading inside my solar plexus. I haven't done Baha this week, but the sensation in the chest I had last week has subsided and feels as if spreading onto the solar plexus now.

 

[shijing]

Just a very quick comment: I know that hiccups are not a form of attack, but after today I feel like they should be considered such! I got them in the middle of the round-breathing, and they didn't go away until toward the end of the Prayer of the Soul. I don't know if the Lizards could have done any worse had they tried. Next time you get the hiccups, try meditating -- it sucks Sorry to interrupt the thread with a really mundane comment -- I just had to vent.

Hi Shijing, try compressing the very beginning of your nose (the extremity closer to the eyes) between your fingers. It works for me every time.

OK, thanks a lot Gertrudes -- its sort of comical in retrospect, but I can't remember the last time I had an attack of the hiccups. I was trying so hard to not let it ruin my breathing meditation, and it was just impossible to do when I was, like, "O Divine Cosmic *hic* Mind.....Holy awareness in *hic* all creation..." Now I feel prepared for next time :)

 

[Ben]

I would have thought that hiccups would be one of the worst things to happen during round breathing because they are violent contractions of the diaphragm . One way to get rid of hiccups, which works for me without fail, is to drink water while holding your nose and with your fingers in your ears (easier to do with someone else helping but possible on your own!). Sounds bizarre, but it never fails for me or anyone I've suggested it to. I realise its not exactly practical during the actual meditation session though!

 

[RedFox]

I just wanted to post an update.

The last few full sessions I have been able to focus clearly and not zone out at all. As it happens I had been neglecting my vitamins/supplements and had run out. I had bought some more and found that since then I am able to stay with it and not zone out. The only new thing I've included is a multi-mineral supplement.....so this may be worth exploring for those having trouble with zoning out a lot?? :)

I followed the POTS section of the full program (pipe breathing followed by POTS) a few weeks back early in the morning and found its results quite profound, and this morning had the feeling that I should try it again.
The last few POTS I have been seeing a light (kind of like seeing a light on the horizon a bit like a sunset/sunrise) and finding myself surrounded by it eventually, feeling warm and relaxed. This morning was the same but way more detailed/intense.

This morning I saw the same scene of light in the distance, but had two distinct sensations....that of the image opening up (a bit like opening an eye) except it was also like opening a tunnel.....the other sensation that followed was that the light was/contained 'me in the future'. This was somewhat overwhelming and I burst out crying for a while. I do not know how subjective this observation is however....
The next thing that happened was the familiar being surrounded by light place.....yet this time I seemed to be aware that I was still laid in bed/viewing this light in the distance....and also possibly elsewhere. I've already experienced being in two places at once, but being in three places at once was most odd!
My ego kicked in and tried to 'see things more clearly' (project its view onto things) and 'claim responsibility' for 'achieving this'......which I managed to settle down fortunately (had to do it a few times). To actually see I had to be still and 'listen' (even though I was 'seeing' something).

After the POTS I continued to find myself in these places and explored it further, switching points of view for one. I was also bursting out crying (on out breaths) every so often, and observed that before this happened I was experiencing an inflow of something (energy?) from head to toe. And feeling points within me (presumably chakras?) vibrating as it happened.
I'd already dedicated the POTS to Laura/her mother and as always the group as a whole, so now the POTS had finished and I was still in the place surrounded by light I decided to pray for (simply by saying in my mind 'I pray for....') Laura and her mother, this group, and humanity as a whole (which resulted in another inflow and a glimpse of great sadness for humanity and bursting into tears).....my solar plexus was becoming quite hot at this point.
I think I understood what Laura wrote in another thread about the potential for our ray of creation to die at that point (if perhaps only in the tiniest of ways), so added that I preyed for our ray of creation, this was followed by more inflows.....and it seems that someone from this light asked 'Do you wish to work for your ray of creation?' to which I answered Yes and was overwhelmed by an inflow and crying....the heat in my solar plexus (or perhaps my solar plexus itsself) now felt like a disc of heat with its edges from my heart to the tops of my legs....
I realised I have little idea how to actually work for out ray of creation (beyond what I am doing here), but am willing to do what is in me to do (when I can get past my programs and laziness). To then find the latest session and discussion of an official religion/church is mind blowing.

I have no idea if all the above was just 'in my head', or worse my ego/self importance....but I thought it worth relaying none the less. Hopefully it is not too subjective.

Also, I do not know if it is related, but I have been getting quite intense dull aches in my shoulders this last week.