Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

My experience of the E-E breathing meditation programme this week is as follows: wet eyes and yawning during the BaHa breathing phases; once again I experienced unconsciously shutting down my breathing, almost forgetting to do it, and accompanying it, about three quarters of the way through each of the BaHa breathings I started to drift off (sleep), losing pace with the breathing; and on Monday during PotS I noticed a lime green colour in my ‘closed eyes’ (I haven’t been away of any light effects for several months). I seem to recall that this is the centre of the heart, the springboard, this stage associated with difficulties in expressing compassion (not a lot of progress then!).
 
When dedicating the program to Atreides yesterday, I saw him engulfed in light from all those 'sending' him strength/healing. Anybody else seen this?

Since realizing that now is the time to work even harder on myself for the sake of the network and innerly planning and preparing myself, there was an upsurge of old programs, holding me in check for a whole week. Then, during the breathing yesterday, I felt all the underlying feelings about that, which I had been shoving away that week: it was most of all fear. Fear of having to leave the comfortable lazy state that offers so much 'appeal'; fear of living the light inside me. Then I had an insight, when I realized that this is the false personality/predator who's afraid of losing control and eventually, of having to die.

While it's a pity to not have been attentive enough to have held the predator in check, especially because I know this pattern already, it seems that each falling back provides me with new insights; or rather, that these insights reach yet another layer in me.
 
Hi Puzzle and everyone else,

There is one thing I had to think about. I am always somewhat hesitant in pointing out such things explicitly, and it's not critique, it's only a thought that came up based on my puzzlement.
But, isn't it the way the very New Age folks handle it? I have been always sceptical regarding such things like "we'll send light in order to change things we want to change". Of course, I wish health for Atreides, too. But does an arbitrary concentration on it really help improve the health condition (...of certain people; in this case that of Atreides)? That would be too easy.
So I think that knowledge, attention and group awareness are rather the key than attempts to do or change anything from distance, especially if one does not know those people personally (because of the word 'sending' which implies an active act or effort). If we want to do or to change or to achieve anything, we are only able to do those things we can really do. And since most people are plagued with their own worries, programmes and their wrong personality, it is hardly possible and not very probable that things of this scale can be fixed deliberately so easily and quickly. As G. said: "One has to help himself before he is able to help others." (my own words) That's what I think about it at least. Maybe I forgot to consider and thus omitted certain points, I don't know. Maybe I am totally wrong (one consideration I always try to keep in mind).
The whole point is: Dedicating is absolutely okay if it's just dedicating, but there is or could be that tendency to slip into wishful thinking that one is able to "change" or "do" something for/against certain things one would like to change, especially things one is not involved in directly. We can dedicate our practices to a person and we can keep in mind all those important and current on-goings.

[quote author=Puzzle]When dedicating the program to Atreides yesterday, I saw him engulfed in light from all those 'sending' him strength/healing. Anybody else seen this?[/quote]Honestly, no, I did not see anything like that. Is not everyone able to see certain things at least to some extent when he wishes to see them?
There are two possibilities:
1) You saw something because there was something. That means you have a sixth sense. And many people here were actually "sending strength/healing" as you said. If there was no sending at all, you could not see a sending.
2) You saw something because you forced to see something, AKA wishful thinking.

[quote author=Puzzle]Since realizing that now is the time to work even harder on myself for the sake of the network and innerly planning and preparing myself, there was an upsurge of old programs, holding me in check for a whole week. Then, during the breathing yesterday, I felt all the underlying feelings about that, which I had been shoving away that week: it was most of all fear. Fear of having to leave the comfortable lazy state that offers so much 'appeal'; fear of living the light inside me. Then I had an insight, when I realized that this is the false personality/predator who's afraid of losing control and eventually, of having to die.[/quote]Yes, that's more or less what I thought about recently, too.
I wrote about it a couple of posts ago:
[quote author=Sirius]Why do people do anything? What's their motivation? And what is my motivation approaching the Work? Is it just fear? Fear of death, self-preservation? Maybe it is the fundamental STS fear of non-existence. Or something else? Further thoughts were that there is nothing one can possess in this world, neither material nor intellectual things. Everything will die and vanish. And one can do nothing against it! The material world possess man, not vice versa. There are so many illusions! And intellectual achievements? What is original and really unique? Probably nothing.[/quote]
 
[quote author=Sirius]The whole point is: Dedicating is absolutely okay if it's just dedicating, but there is or could be that tendency to slip into wishful thinking that one is able to "change" or "do" something for/against certain things one would like to change, especially things one is not involved in directly. We can dedicate our practices to a person and we can keep in mind all those important and current on-goings.
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True. I personally did simply dedicate and not expect that this dedication was changing anything. But I've had similar thoughts as you voiced in your post concerning this topic.

Sirius said:
Honestly, no, I did not see anything like that. Is not everyone able to see certain things at least to some extent when he wishes to see them?
There are two possibilities:
1) You saw something because there was something. That means you have a sixth sense. And many people here were actually "sending strength/healing" as you said. If there was no sending at all, you could not see a sending.
2) You saw something because you forced to see something, AKA wishful thinking.

I'm well aware of those delusions. I mentioned seeing this for the purpose of networking, as truth seeker has explained some time ago: if nobody else has seen it, then it's very probable that this was nothing but a subjective/fabricated sight. If somebody else has seen it, then maybe it was not so subjective at all -- at least if those who did see it were not involved in wishful thinking themselves.
And I did mention seeing this, because of the way I saw it. I didn't engage in any delusional thinking of 'this is going to help him', but was aware that this is simply us having him in our thoughts fwiw. That image simply suddenly flashed into my inner view and lasted very shortly. Mentioning it here was to find out whether others could confirm it, as I've mentioned, and if not, then it's simply me having to look closer and find out where exactly this 'sight' was coming from. Either way, it'll help in sorting out another tiny aspect.
 
I too, am not sure that dedicating an EE to someone definitely works. I just remember that we did it once before for when PepperFritz left us, so I thought that it could be of some help. Maybe it is just for those that perform it. I didn't see anything when I did mine, but I never see anything unless I get to the verge of sleep and see hypnogogic images.

But EE has a praying component to it. And the C's said that praying helps.
 
Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with the intent of helping someone with EE or prayers, especially because we can safely assume in this case that Atreides would welcome such help. Of course, we don't know if it will work, or how much, but what's the harm in trying? We do so in the knowledge that the result is ultimately not up to us and we try not to anticipate.

That's my opinion anyway.
 
Over the past year or so I've been gradually including EE (with detox and diet changes) into my daily activities. This week I received a modest but encouraging sign, osit. Results from my annual checkup showed weight stayed the same, LDL-cholesterol dropped a couple of points, and glucose dropped 15%. I guess these numbers can fluctuate, but things seem to be heading in the right direction.
One improvement of note is improved energy levels. At times I used to feel really tired in the afternoons, but that has not happened for quite a while.
 
l_autre_d said:
Over the past year or so I've been gradually including EE (with detox and diet changes) into my daily activities. This week I received a modest but encouraging sign, osit. Results from my annual checkup showed weight stayed the same, LDL-cholesterol dropped a couple of points, and glucose dropped 15%. I guess these numbers can fluctuate, but things seem to be heading in the right direction.
One improvement of note is improved energy levels. At times I used to feel really tired in the afternoons, but that has not happened for quite a while.

That sounds good.

Maybe keep record of your (blood) results and see what comes up next time. If you haven't done so, maybe you could try to get a copy from your doctor, so that you can compare the numbers for the next test.
And true tests can vary, but when you are feeling better, that's the best result imo. :)
 
I'm practicing EE & diet & heavy metals detox for the last 12 months with excellent results:

1: I'm much calmer than before
2: Much healthier and energized
3: Less migraines and muscle pain
4: Less kilos and regular blood pressure, cholesterol and sugar
5: Better memory
6: Less problems with sinuses
7: Improvement of singing, hearing and diving skills
8: Higher concentration and better response to stress
9: Better reflexes

I'm still working on board cruise ships, job is extremely stressful and I'm away from my home and family for 8 months in a year, right now I'm on vacation but my grand father got cancer and whole family tried to do the best in order to assist & help him in any way, we did not manage to save my grand father and he lost a battle with cancer 2 days ago. I was particularly attached to grandpa, and I must say I did not take this kind of pain bravely. But I noticed when doing EE I can sleep normally, it hurt less, it is not a paralyzing and harrow kind of pain I'm feeling in last month due to situation with granpa. EE become a part of me, I commence with pipe breath & POTS whenever I can and whenever I'm under stress.

Thank you Laura & C's
 
Ljubica said:
I'm still working on board cruise ships, job is extremely stressful and I'm away from my home and family for 8 months in a year, right now I'm on vacation but my grand father got cancer and whole family tried to do the best in order to assist & help him in any way, we did not manage to save my grand father and he lost a battle with cancer 2 days ago. I was particularly attached to grandpa, and I must say I did not take this kind of pain bravely. But I noticed when doing EE I can sleep normally, it hurt less, it is not a paralyzing and harrow kind of pain I'm feeling in last month due to situation with granpa. EE become a part of me, I commence with pipe breath & POTS whenever I can and whenever I'm under stress.

Thank you Laura & C's

My condolences to you Ljubica. Keep breathing.
 
Odyssey said:
Ljubica said:
I'm still working on board cruise ships, job is extremely stressful and I'm away from my home and family for 8 months in a year, right now I'm on vacation but my grand father got cancer and whole family tried to do the best in order to assist & help him in any way, we did not manage to save my grand father and he lost a battle with cancer 2 days ago. I was particularly attached to grandpa, and I must say I did not take this kind of pain bravely. But I noticed when doing EE I can sleep normally, it hurt less, it is not a paralyzing and harrow kind of pain I'm feeling in last month due to situation with granpa. EE become a part of me, I commence with pipe breath & POTS whenever I can and whenever I'm under stress.

Thank you Laura & C's

My condolences to you Ljubica. Keep breathing.

Thanks I will.
 

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Just a bit of an update. The clearings I'm experiencing in my body seem to be now focusing to a large extent around the forehead, nasal cavity and eyes.
 
truth seeker said:
Just a bit of an update. The clearings I'm experiencing in my body seem to be now focusing to a large extent around the forehead, nasal cavity and eyes.

I've been feeling a bit of pressure around my forehead area as well which I didn't feel so much before. Lately, I've really been trying really, really hard to keep my mind from wandering about while doing the breathing and POTS. It's really showcasing what little control I have over my brain. When a thought comes up, or in, I gently push it away without nagging myself about it being there in the first place. But then there's the underlying thought telling me what to do. :rolleyes: And then there's the breathing, counting and POTS on top of that thought.

Exercise for the brain indeed. Maybe that's what the pressure is. Soreness from lifting weights. :)
 

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