Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Aiming]

It had been suggested many sites earlier in this thread by someone, that it can be due to not drinking enough. Maybe there is something to this...

That could well be -- the thing I've observed in others and myself is that it's very easy to 'forget' about drinking enough. How much are you drinking per day? What works pretty well for me is to always have my bottle of water near me. After a time it becomes pretty autimatical to be drinking regularly and enough. Another thing to consider is that thirst is increasing when the body is detoxing -- it urgently needs the water to flush out the toxins. So it's really something to pay attention to.

Before that I had a quite intensive dream about being in a large bathroom with places for shower, at a huge swimming pool filled with many visitors. I had been to this bathroom twice in this dream. There was also another bathroom I just knew of, but it didn't really appear in my dream. However, the bathroom I saw looked quite old and mouldy at first and at my second visit there I found out, that it has been renovated - along with the second bathroom.

I've also had a period in my time of EE where a similar theme was occuring very frequently -- most of all toilets. Well, that's different from the bathroom theme, the focus being more on 'cleaning' than of 'disposing'. But it seems to be related. Recently I had the first positive seeming dream concerning water: I was also swimming in a swimming pool (still an artificial place of water though I might add) and swimming in it as if it was the element I was born into; it was playful and lots of fun.

Funny, that it occured with the first full EE session after quite a long time... Hope, that my dream really means "renewal"... Or maybe it is just a little heads-up from the universe, or a deception by 4D-STS or just only my own wishful thinking, that was reflected in that dream. However, I felt great after waking up - physically and emotionally.

Whatever of these options it is, the important thing is that you've taken up doing the whole program again. I'm glad for you that you felt so good after waking up. :)

 

[Learner]

Thank you for taking time out to respond, Enaid. It's really appreciated, and I am going to look deeper into the issue of my drinking habits.

That could well be -- the thing I've observed in others and myself is that it's very easy to 'forget' about drinking enough. How much are you drinking per day? What works pretty well for me is to always have my bottle of water near me. After a time it becomes pretty autimatical to be drinking regularly and enough. Another thing to consider is that thirst is increasing when the body is detoxing -- it urgently needs the water to flush out the toxins. So it's really something to pay attention to.

The thought, that EE might play a role in this, also occurred. As it is a detoxifying program, that also helps with detoxing the body (not only mind and emotions, because all three are connected), there might be an increased urge to drink water.

I also often do not drink enough, if I am delving too deeply into other things, like this forum for example. I am drinking way too little per day: two or three cups of water probably. Sometimes I even deny it from myself, especially while reading and making notes. I say to myself: "Finish that paragraph first, then get yourself something to drink." This is a really bad habit, and my body also shows me - my skin is very dry, my lips are often somewhat cracky. Maybe it would really make a difference, to put something to drink besides me regularly. I am skeptical about water in plastic bottles (as I had come across lots of info here on the forum, on the web and in books like "Detoxify or Die", that discourage plastics), but the water I once bought in a glass bottle in health store was incredibly expensive. But I have got a jug of clay, that I can fill with water and put beside me to fill my cup.

We have a reverse osmosis filter in our flat share, but while relying on that water, I usully feel really drained (I once gave that water to my plants and they were not going really well then). I am going to do some research on this, why this might be the case, as going into it further here would probably lead too much off-topic. Today I was drinking lots of tea and I will do this in the upcoming weeks (organic, if possible), but I still prepare it with tap water. Right now I find this works best for me, until finding a better solution (for ex. filtered water, that doesn't drain me).

I've also had a period in my time of EE where a similar theme was occuring very frequently -- most of all toilets. Well, that's different from the bathroom theme, the focus being more on 'cleaning' than of 'disposing'. But it seems to be related.

I also dream of toilets sometimes, but it is more the bathroom theme, where I am standing with lots of others in front of
a row of washing basins, cleaning ourselves in order to get prepared for something. Last night in the dream, however, I was completely alone in this bathroom.

Recently I had the first positive seeming dream concerning water: I was also swimming in a swimming pool (still an artificial place of water though I might add) and swimming in it as if it was the element I was born into; it was playful and lots of fun.

This sounds good to me. I also found this about swimming here: _http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/s4.htm

To dream that you are swimming, suggests that you are exploring aspects of your unconscious mind and emotions. The dream may be a sign that you are seeking some sort of emotional support. It is a common dream image for people going through therapy.

Maybe it relates to the cleansing process due to EE - that you try to get through all the layers of old emotions and related issues in order to find truly to yourself. Though this place is still artificial (it is a swimming pool, not a lake or the sea), you are trying to explore yourself in some playful manner - and maybe you will swim through the exit some day, that leads to a lake or right into the sea: a real place. fwiw :)

 

[Divide by Zero]

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Also, in my own experiences with E/E - I have not noticed anything out of the ordinary of late, but have felt generally fatigued lately, and also emotional. I am much better about remaining externally considerate and not taking out the emotional rawness on others. And when it comes to POTS - I have noticed the tendency to sometimes start to recite it by rote, rather than really BEING with it. So I am focussing on that. I am doing EE daily and POTS too, but not the Beatha, except every few days and only for maybe 10 minutes or so, as it gets me really agitated at times.


Cheers.

Interesting in how you feel fatigued lately. I do too. Despite doing the diet and having less negative influences affecting me due to EE, I have felt less motivation at work primarily. I suppose work has become less important as we see more that things are changing? It doesn't make me unable to do my job, I just lost that motivation to "prove myself" or "be noticed". The POTS and the 3 stage breathing really do help me not get involved in the job's internal politics!

 

[Lucius]

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Also, in my own experiences with E/E - I have not noticed anything out of the ordinary of late, but have felt generally fatigued lately, and also emotional. I am much better about remaining externally considerate and not taking out the emotional rawness on others. And when it comes to POTS - I have noticed the tendency to sometimes start to recite it by rote, rather than really BEING with it. So I am focussing on that. I am doing EE daily and POTS too, but not the Beatha, except every few days and only for maybe 10 minutes or so, as it gets me really agitated at times.


Cheers.

Interesting in how you feel fatigued lately. I do too. Despite doing the diet and having less negative influences affecting me due to EE, I have felt less motivation at work primarily. I suppose work has become less important as we see more that things are changing? It doesn't make me unable to do my job, I just lost that motivation to "prove myself" or "be noticed". The POTS and the 3 stage breathing really do help me not get involved in the job's internal politics!

Interesting also feels weak lately, although I do ee every day so I should be okay emotionally.

Yesterday I drank two natural honey beer, to be honest I was expecting a better taste after such a long period without any alcohol, sugary drinks, only water and green Tea. Before their drinking 5 times read what is written on the packaging, but there is something in this as it is on a healthy diet - detox - Think what you put in your mouth.

Man I'm more aware of not just what they but also all other aspects such as shampoo?.


I have a question do you use natural cosmetics? shampoo, soap, creams?

 

[Nicholas]

Man I'm more aware of not just what they but also all other aspects such as shampoo?.


I have a question do you use natural cosmetics? shampoo, soap, creams?

Your skin is an organ and will absorb chemicals found in your soaps, etc. Find natural stuff to use such as this shampoo/soap from J.R. Liggett ( _http://secure.jrliggett.com/). Antiperspirants should be avoided as well. Use mineral salt instead such as this.

Like Dr. Mercola says, if you wouldn't eat it, don't put it on your skin.

 

[Windmill knight]

I hadn't done Beatha for a while. Last night I did the full program and I really had some intense and interesting dreams, which I'd like to share.

I dreamed I was visiting my mother, and we were chatting while doing house chores like cleaning bed-sheets, etc., and hanging out with my little nieces and nephews. As we did, I told her the story of a certain prison or concentration camp during WWII. Apparently I knew all about it, and I explained that Nazi scientists had the idea that human beings could be reprogrammed like machines, and that was the original purpose of imprisoning people there. This particular camp had 3,000 Jewish prisoners, and they were put into a position in which just as they were abused, they had to abuse of other inmates.

I showed my mom a black and white picture of a woman who had been a victim at that camp. She had round cheeks, curly short hair and sunken eyes, and she was smiling with a shy expression, sitting on a bench. I said that she was a relative of Uri Geller and that she herself had been psychic, because at some point in her life she had been abducted by aliens and the contact had made her psychic. Some words I mentioned about either the camp or the woman were 'Urianne', or 'Vivianne', or 'Viennese' (as in Vienna).

The dream impressed me very much so I awoke in the middle of the night thinking that I had to remember as much detail as possible, because it was very important, and perhaps some sort of key to a past life. As I was thinking about it, tears began rolling from my eyes, which was kind of strange because I was sad but not that sad. It's as if my body had decided to have a cry.

Eventually I fell back asleep and I was having a 'normal' dream about riding in a car with two other people. But things started going from bad to worse for us (details unimportant), so at some point I decided to ask God/DCM for help. I sat on my bed and opened my eyes, as I reasoned that asking for help from DCM was not 'cheating' on life lessons, because when you pray you are also addressing your own higher self. Then I noticed that the curtains of my window were half open and something was moving outside. There was something that looked like an alien probe floating. I sneaked close to the window and the landscape outside was different (city-like, while I live in a smallish town). I saw a huge UFO, and then many more floating low. They were scanning my bed with laser beams, as in the movies. I thought: 'that's it - this is no abduction, this is the alien invasion!' And then awoke again, this time for real! As far as I can remember, this is the first time in my life that I have 'awoken' into a dream! And the room in my dream was very similar to my real room. Almost identical, except for a few details.

So today I decided to google some of the clues from my first dream, and it turns out that Uri Geller's family is Jewish Hungarian; that there was a forced-labor concentration camp complex outside Vienna where Austrian and Hungarian Jews were sent (among others, like Communists, gypsies, etc.) called Mauthausen-Gusen, and they did have a system in which some inmates were selected to bully the rest. From Wikipedia:

As in all other German concentration camps, not all the prisoners were equal. Their treatment depended largely on the category assigned to each inmate, as well as their nationality and rank within the system. The so-called kapos, or prisoners who had been recruited by their captors to police their fellow prisoners, were given more food and higher pay in the form of concentration camp coupons which could be exchanged for cigarettes in the canteen, as well as a separate room inside most barracks. In addition, following Himmler's order in June, 1941, a brothel was opened for them in 1942, in the Mauthausen and Gusen I camps.[35] The Kapos formed the main part of the so-called Prominents (German: Prominenz), or prisoners who were given a much better treatment than the average inmate.

Women and children were kept there too, in different sub-camps.

Also, it turns out that the name 'Urianne' actually exists (I didn't think it did). But apparently is of Greek origin and not Hebrew or Eastern European.

A final funny detail is that a few nights earlier I had a dream of horse-back riding a black mare called 'Vanessa' - which is very similar to 'Viennese'.

 

[beetlemaniac]

... and they did have a system in which some inmates were selected to bully the rest.

That's interesting to know, because that would probably mean that the choice of 'kapos' would
probably depend on how psychopathic the selected individuals were, creating a kind of psychopathic
heirarchy. Like what is going on in our gov as well.

 

[Stranger]

After an enforced break from EE I started again yesterday. Interestingly, I had a intensive tickle in the throat when breathing deeply just before my lung was full. I indulged the stimulus and coughed. After a dozen times the tickle in the throat disappeared and my breathing was clean again. Maybe there was some cleansing going on because the unfamiliar deep breathing.

 

[loreta]

Man I'm more aware of not just what they but also all other aspects such as shampoo?.


I have a question do you use natural cosmetics? shampoo, soap, creams?

Your skin is an organ and will absorb chemicals found in your soaps, etc. Find natural stuff to use such as this shampoo/soap from J.R. Liggett ( _http://secure.jrliggett.com/). Antiperspirants should be avoided as well. Use mineral salt instead such as this.

Like Dr. Mercola says, if you wouldn't eat it, don't put it on your skin.

Be aware of this kind of mineral salt antiperspirant. Some have aluminium. You should check the ingredients before. I was very surprise when one day I check that one of this antiperspirant had aluminium. Maybe some have and some no.

You can use lemon as an antideodorant.

 

[Sirius]

[quote author=Learner]I am drinking way too little per day: two or three cups of water probably.[/quote]That's actually not enough. Two or three cups a day is very little.

[quote author=Learner]]my skin is very dry, my lips are often somewhat cracky. Maybe it would really make a difference, to put something to drink besides me regularly.[/quote]It's perhaps somewhat off-topic, but what I could observe myself was that I had all the years prior to the diet changes extremely dry lips and skin, too, as you described, especially in winter. The most critical thing was the skin of my hands and fingers. I had real problems with it, at least at winter time. There was one incident in my childhood where I was a long, too long period of time outside, and it was cold to such an extent that it obviously caused these very problems and sensitivity of cold. I couldn't even sense my fingers. Then, each winter that followed I got this dry skin on my hands and chilblains on my fingers. It wasn't very pleasant, but present every winter. I've read that these symptoms may be caused by exposure to electromagnetic waves as well, people have been reporting this. However, in my case it was only in winter, so I can exclude this. It shocked – but didn't surprise – me as I read this. And another problem was that each time my hands were exposed to cold, they became ice-cold themselves and couldn't be warmed through any means. They became blue.
But the actual thing I want to tell: It disappeared completely after the diet changes (and EE was added). I have almost no problems anymore with this. Additionally, I must say that this winter is much colder than the preceding ones, and I go very often for a walk outside (one hour at least, but usually more), even at night, mostly at night when it is colder than in the daytime. My skin is still totally smooth, no problems with cold; lips, too. I don't know what exactly caused the health to become better. EE, diet, food supplements, stress reduction. Perhaps everything together. I have, admittedly, never expected such great changes to take place in such a short period of time.

[quote author=Learner]I am skeptical about water in plastic bottles (as I had come across lots of info here on the forum, on the web and in books like "Detoxify or Die", that discourage plastics)[/quote]Bad.

[quote author=Learner]We have a reverse osmosis filter in our flat share, but while relying on that water, I usully feel really drained (I once gave that water to my plants and they were not going really well then).[/quote]Sounds not good. Did you descale the water you gave your plants? Maybe they don't like it. They want your tea. :P

 

[pirataloko]

Hi all

I've been thinking about doing the EE training repeatedly, almost since I knew of its existence but I have been giving more laps , always confused and weighing pros and cons, so I was stuck without being able to take any decision, i'd to know like some information about at least in regard to the subsequent responsibilities and which leads before i take a final decision I would like to have all the information.

I heard about a posible EE event in Barcelona and i'm interested to know about it deeply.

Thanks!

 

[jordifs]

I heard about a posible EE event in Barcelona and i'm interested to know about it deeply.

I cannot find a recent reference to an upcoming event on Barcelona. ¿Can you assist me finding this reference?
If so, I would be interested in assisting others, even with accommodation.

Thanks.

 

[pirataloko]

I heard about a possible EE event in Barcelona and i'm interested to know about it deeply.

I cannot find a recent reference to an upcoming event on Barcelona. ¿Can you assist me finding this reference?
If so, I would be interested in assisting others, even with accommodation.

Thanks.

All i know is that it's in proyect and i guess nothing is defined, i know about it casually through mail while i was exchanging messages with other collaborators of Sott.net. If nothing is published about it probably it's because it isn't closed yet. In fact i was told about a planing proyect so i'm looking for information about it as you are we have to wait for details. If i know something in the future i can post here.

So I guess we must be attentive to the events to see if it is confirmed. If finally the event became real, we'll speak if i don't understand wrongly you're from Barcelona and i don't know too much about the city so probably i ask you for help.

Keep in touch!

 

[Alana]

So today I decided to google some of the clues from my first dream, and it turns out that Uri Geller's family is Jewish Hungarian; that there was a forced-labor concentration camp complex outside Vienna where Austrian and Hungarian Jews were sent (among others, like Communists, gypsies, etc.) called Mauthausen-Gusen, and they did have a system in which some inmates were selected to bully the rest. From Wikipedia:

As in all other German concentration camps, not all the prisoners were equal. Their treatment depended largely on the category assigned to each inmate, as well as their nationality and rank within the system. The so-called kapos, or prisoners who had been recruited by their captors to police their fellow prisoners, were given more food and higher pay in the form of concentration camp coupons which could be exchanged for cigarettes in the canteen, as well as a separate room inside most barracks. In addition, following Himmler's order in June, 1941, a brothel was opened for them in 1942, in the Mauthausen and Gusen I camps.[35] The Kapos formed the main part of the so-called Prominents (German: Prominenz), or prisoners who were given a much better treatment than the average inmate.

Women and children were kept there too, in different sub-camps.

Also, it turns out that the name 'Urianne' actually exists (I didn't think it did). But apparently is of Greek origin and not Hebrew or Eastern European.

The above reminds me that years ago i read the biography of a Greek Jew who had survived Mauthausen. Mauthausen was actually the title of the book, and his description of his experiences and memories from the concentration camp, broke my teenage heart at the time. Apparently, many Greek Jews, especially from Thessaloniki (biggest city in Greece after Athens) were transported to the Mauthausen concentration camp during the German occupation of Greece.

All in all, very interesting dream, WK. I wonder if other members have WWII dreams, that might be past-life related. I had one 5 years ago, that i speculated about here.

 

[Windmill knight]

All in all, very interesting dream, WK. I wonder if other members have WWII dreams, that might be past-life related. I had one 5 years ago, that i speculated about here.

Interesting, Alana! I wasn't aware of that (or I forgot reading about it). Certainly suggestive of a past life. Or perhaps some psychic connection with others. Who knows?