Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

agni said:
Is there any suggestion I can give to a person ? Any thoughts ? Any precautions for EE for a person with a history of migraines ? For the record she is doing complete program.

Thank You.

Patients with high blood pressure, cerebral vascular disease (strokes), or migraine may not tolerate breath holding or Warrior’s breath. She can reduce or cancel the breath holding count during 3 stage-breathing and the Prayer of the Soul. She can skip the Warrior's breath to be on the safe side. Other than that, vagal stimulation may have positive effects on her migraines.
 
My experience of the E-E breathing meditation programme this week is as follows: wet eyes during BaHa, and by the end of reciting PotS before sleep I’ve had tears running down my face – even when I’ve got up to use the bathroom there are tears in my eyes still – they then disappear for the rest of the night. Change is definitely happening at some level.

Out side of the sessions, I’ve experienced pain in the upper part of my left arm, when stretching or sleeping. Metaphysically this indicates the following:

Louise Hay in You Can Heal Your Life said:
Left Hand Side: represents receptivity, taking in, feminine energy, women, the mother.
Arms: Represent the capacity and ability to hold the experiences of life.

[quote=Lise Bourbeau in Your body’s telling you: Love yourself! said:
PAINS IN THE ARMS
EMOTIONAL BLOCK
Pains in the arms signals that you feel you are no longer useful and you doubt your capabilities. Or it could be that you have difficulty holding someone close to you. You may be feeling some guilt surrounding this issue. You should take a close look at why you can’t take a loved one in your arms. What could happen?

Which arm is causing pain? Be aware that … the left, receiving or acquiring …

It may be that you feel you have all that you need to embrace a new situation but you’ve been influenced by others or by your thoughts and you’ve prevented yourself from grasping the situation fully.

Since the arms are an extension of the heart region, they are used to express love. Rather than feel the weight of obligation, embrace the person or opportunity with open arms, as this is the natural reaction of heart.

MENTAL BLOCK
If you doubt your ability or your usefulness, realize that this mindset is the result of listening to a little voice in your head that is bred by the ego. Trust that the Universe only gives you what you can handle and that you will reach your goals with a quiet confidence and capability. Discard painful ways of thinking and energize yourself by embracing your life fully.

I can see where this is coming from. I’ve allowed my thoughts to influence me in a new situation, other than fully embracing the opportunity. Doubts have been relatively constant in my life (influenced by my mother’s behaviour), and at my age always the question – especially in today’s society – am I useful any longer. Trust, including the Universe has also been an issue through life for me.

Time to work on those inner voices again, and embrace life to the full.
 
Gertrudes said:
Hi Loreta,

Perhaps the best thing would be for you to see the introductory video that is freely available at the EE website here: http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/
In it, Laura explains the program in detail, so hopefully that should help you understand more clearly what EE is about.

Thanks Gertrudes, I have try to see this video on-line but it didn't work till some days ago. I will try again. Thank you!
By the way I love your name. :cool2:
 
loreta said:
I'm sorry, I still have problems to make an intelligent post. There is an error with the quote. My post it the quote and the quote is the post. What a mess. :curse:

I have fixed it. ;)
 
Gandalf said:
loreta said:
I'm sorry, I still have problems to make an intelligent post. There is an error with the quote. My post it the quote and the quote is the post. What a mess. :curse:

I have fixed it. ;)

Thank you Gandalf, I feel better.
 
Psyche said:
agni said:
Is there any suggestion I can give to a person ? Any thoughts ? Any precautions for EE for a person with a history of migraines ? For the record she is doing complete program.

Thank You.

Patients with high blood pressure, cerebral vascular disease (strokes), or migraine may not tolerate breath holding or Warrior’s breath. She can reduce or cancel the breath holding count during 3 stage-breathing and the Prayer of the Soul. She can skip the Warrior's breath to be on the safe side. Other than that, vagal stimulation may have positive effects on her migraines.

Hi Psyche,

Thank You. I will pass on the message. She says Warrior Breath makes her feel good & that's her favorite part. It's Ba-ha that causes the effect of unease sometime, perhaps it's what she might want to consider to ease up for a while until she gets in a healthier state.

I am also quite confident with EE healing effect on migranes & low/high blood pressure, along with dietary changes of course. Being a person struggling with high blood pressure since 14, I can say the issue is a goner for me now. I really hope EE helps others as well. EE is quite a miraculous work !
 
agni said:
Thank You. I will pass on the message. She says Warrior Breath makes her feel good & that's her favorite part. It's Ba-ha that causes the effect of unease sometime, perhaps it's what she might want to consider to ease up for a while until she gets in a healthier state.

Yeah, if she feels uneasy doing it, she should take a break.

I am also quite confident with EE healing effect on migranes & low/high blood pressure, along with dietary changes of course. Being a person struggling with high blood pressure since 14, I can say the issue is a goner for me now. I really hope EE helps others as well. EE is quite a miraculous work !

Indeed it does. I hope your friend will soon see the benefits herself. :flowers:
 
I had an early morning EE session today, and by the time I got halfway through the Round Breathing section I started zoning out for awhile which hasn't happened for many sessions. After some sleep, I awoke to the image of a clock in my mind's eye and an earnest voice telling me "you only have a few weeks left". I think this meant in the context of some kind of preparation. Creepy.

FWIW I think it could be related to my current interest in learning about how to go about marking a new calendar, inspired by James McCanney's "Surviving Planet X Passage" pamphlet, seen here:

~http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hercolobus/esp_hercolobus_54.htm
 
Well guys i don't know how to explain this, I'm going to expose first the facts then the experience and finally how i interpreted it.

Blackground:

The last days ( a week or less + or -) I'd been experiencing some alteration while I'm doing the POTS meditation, ususally i stay calm and relaxed focusing in the words with different degrees in success and experiences, but these days i felt altered: accelerated metabolism and nervous system and quick clicks, in addition in this state is harder to get a focus and predator mind and thoughts are involved in a greater amount that the expected one when i consciously make efforts to focus again the sensation described before as accelerated metabolism and nervous system and quick clicks becomes more intense, it's strange because it used to be the contrary. I believed and guess in some degree i still believe that is part of the process somehow,and it can return to the "normal" stage in the appropriate time. It's curious that when i end the POTS all this alteration ends and it results easier to return to a relaxed state.

What happened today:

I'd been thinking the last days but specially yesterday and today about my life and asking to me some questions about it and where I'm going to go and how, and in first instance the conclusion is that i need more information about some subjects before i could consider a final decision to be propitious to my own destiny, considering that we're all here as result to take a decision without the knowledge of all the information and consequences (refer to chasing the pot of gold, or experience sex),and we have enough (overdose in my subjective point of view) of these consequences i definitely don't want to fall in the same mistake, not interested at all in repeat that lesson so i see perfectly reasonable to take decisions with all information and with knowledge of the consequences.

Well in this point and after the POTS tonight (with the same result that in the previous days), when i ended the POTS and got up to take the 5HTP (Triptofano) pills and i saw a strange indefinitely form near the lamp in the room (i'm telling this to expose all the details i can remember, to see "things" is considered normal to me to some exent but in this case i don't know why i think about the experience i had and posted that day here http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12862.0), so i decided to relax and breath and wait for something to happen if it were possible. I don't remember what happened along this experience all i know is that something was running in my mind but i can't define now if there was something i was seeing or thinking or.... suddenly i felt disturbed and back to the conscious state i opened my eyes and saw a shadow that looked like more triangular than round in front of my head a few centimeters away over me like floating (maybe between 20 and 50 cm) had only a candle light and not directly focused to my location in the room and i hear like something blowing exhaling breath and saying Haa... (like in pipe breathing), following this i felt the air punding in the middle of my front (third eye), during this experience i was altered again: accelerated metabolism and nervous system and quick clicks and in this case we have to add hot everywhere in my body.

Interpretation in the moment it was happening:

While all this was happening (few seconds) i was hurling towards the shadow thinking an ugly insult, i interpreted by the shape of the head it could be a lizzie and my reaction was totally quick and instinctively without thinking.

I guess now it was in this way simply because i wasn't aware of it and surprised me and something that is hidden don't like me. I didn't fell fear, danger or any negative emotion and right now i don't know what to think about this experience.

Obviously in the same moment i felt the air in my front all disappeared, and i stand like a fool in my bed thinking about this, right after the experience i questioned to myself my violent behavior (i'm always thinking against it), i have a lot to learn and i don't know if my attitude was appropriate or not (but I could not control it just happened in that way) because in fact, i don't know if it was as i interpreted it or not in an objective way (but i guess that very probably not :huh:) then i forgive myself for having taken that step without accurate knowledge (thing that i don't know, but did it in the case of.... and because i failed with the violent behavior) of what was happening and I finally left with more questions than answers... summarizing: confusion.

I have to laugh i was looking for information and find confusion and more questions

Great!

Well i'm writing this some hours and i don't know if i forget some relevant detail or point, if i remember something more i'll write tomorrow. Good night guys.
 
Hi everyone!

I would like to finally share the experiences I have had practicing Eiriu Eolas for the past year (approximately). I realise this is a long time coming, and although I have a plethora of excuses (most of which you could probably already guess) none are really worth mentioning. All I can do at this point is apologise and finally get on with it!

I found the first few months of EE very difficult. During three-stage breathing I would experience states of rather extreme panic. Even though I knew I was in control of the process, there were many illogical moments when I felt as though I would never breathe properly again. In addition to panic, I experienced feelings of rage, anger and frustration. During the learning process, I will admit that there were times when I did not bother with warm-up breathing exercises, and now I realise just how fundamental they are in order to practice three-stage breathing properly. These days, I will not even contemplate three-stage breathing without practicing some Qi Gong, having a stint on my Chi Machine or a long Epsom salt bath beforehand. It makes such an immense difference. I also discovered that I could relax significantly more if I lay down. Most of the time now I find I can simply let go and allow my body to slip into it's own natural flow - it is a rare event to feel such aggravation as I experienced previously.

I remember that I broke into severe sweats and shakes when I first began practicing the round breathing. I was definitely NOT enjoying myself. But as with the three-stage breathing, I persevered, and within a short period of time this part of Eiriu Eolas became my firm favourite. This is not to say that it has become a flawless process for me. Although I certainly still have difficulties with every part off EE at times, I also find myself slipping into exquisitely serene states more often. There have been times during the round breathing when I have 'zoned' for an unknown period of time. When I return to normal awareness, I am not even sure whether I had continued to breathe during my absence... it is a rather strange sensation, but not an unpleasant one.

During those first few months of practice I found I had a constant supply of mucus materialising in my throat. I considered this was part of the cleansing process, so just rolled with it. Sure enough, it cleared itself up and I have not experienced it again since.

Mental distraction/mind wandering was probably the biggest issue for me to begin with, and it remains an issue today - especially during the Prayer of the Soul Meditation (where I realise it is most detrimental). I find it interesting to note that whenever my mind is wandering, the physical distractions (i.e. itching) fade into nothing, and likewise when I am focused on the itching - my mind is perfectly clear. The physical and mental distractions never pair up - they always seems to enjoy working as a tag team instead.

The itching is not quite as big an issue for me now. In the beginning, I would experience itches all over my body. These gradually came together to focus purely on my face, and then finally, just my nose. But despite being the cause of intense frustration for many many months, I have now thankfully found that I can successfully ignore the sensations. The predator remains determined however! And I have recently (the past few weeks) "welcomed" another distraction - swallowing. Swallowing was never an issue for me previously, but now that I have overcome other hurdles, it has raised it's ugly head and refuses to leave quietly. I am hoping that with continual practice this will cease to be an issue also...

Before I finish up, I would like to share a weird experience I had just the other day whilst practicing the Prayer of the Soul. I was lying down enjoying the peaceful meditative state when I felt one of my cats snuggle up against me. My beloved fluffies always enjoy a good meditation and/or gentle healing session, so this is quite a common occurrence. After I finished the meditation, I had a huge smile on my face as I turned my head to see which kitty had snuggled this time - only to discover there was no one there. I distinctly felt the physical presence of a cat snuggling up against my thigh, and yet....

Thanks for listening! :dance:
 
loreta said:
Iron, Thank you very much for the links and the information. Yes, its different than mindfulness meditation (I do it with some Cd's from John Kabat-Zinn, that I think its a very very interesting man. But I think it is not enough because I still feel mad, sad, and with rage, and I still have difficulty with some past situations.

So today I will order the EE program- this year its for me a year of change, I wanted this way. I feel it this way. Surely, I will have more questions to ask, we will see.

Thank you my friend, have a nice day!

You too have a nice day, my friend. I'm glad of being able to help you out.
 
Enaid said:
I agree with Sirius, that's way too little. Hope you've been increasing your intake already.

Sorry for my late answer. Meanwhile, since I wrote about my little intake of water and tea here first, I have increased it. I also forgot to mention, that I use a 0,4 l cup as drinking dish - I am currently trying to get up to 6 such cups per day: 2,4 l then. My lips are less cracky since I do so, and I also can concentrate better on things. Thanks for your concerns, I will take care of it. :)

Ragrding my EE experience last week and yesterday: The last two times I fell asleep for some short phases during BaHa and POTS and woke up some minutes or so later. I think, this happened also, because it has been quite late already. I found out for me, I can do PB and Warriors Breathing late in the night, but not Baha - so I have to change the time, when doing the program: doing it somewhat earlier in the evening and not after twelve or one o'clock. So the danger to fall asleep during Baha and POTS might not be so strong.
After last nights session I felt pretty relaxed, warm and peaceful - but in the first half of this day I then felt moody and tired, not well at all. I think, that is due to emotional process due to Baha last night. But since the afternoon I feel better again.

Something I have to add, that came into my mind, since I do the EE regularly again: What I observed in my life is, that some things seem to process much quicker in real life occurrences after a full session than they did before, when just doing POTS or not doing EE at all (before Nov. 2009). I also get the feeling, I can cope a bit better with life than before, when not doing it regularly, and having a bit more confidence in life as in myself by now. Things still don't get easier by themselves, but the anxiety and the sense of feeling down as well as the lethargy, that led me to delay things, are much lower by now then they were from October to December last year, while wallowing in my own depressive states. Things seem to be more "in the flow" again, I don't feel like stuck anymore. After receiving the DVD and reading the sentence, how important it is to do EE regularly, I realized how important that really is - in order not to fall back into the same state or worse as I was around the end of last year.
The latter is my own subjective fear - beneficial only in this way, that the motivation for doing regular EE has increased and was confirmed by doing so. But on basis of what I have observed: if I do it unregularly again, painful emotional states would take much longer to be processed and that will probably lead me to wallow in them again, therefore getting stuck all anew.

Due to my experiences I learned again, maybe much more intesively than the first time I started, what a wonderful tool EE is and how helpful it can be (besides other things like diet etc.). Therefore I value it more than ever before. I just hope, my own mechanicalness doesn't take over again, that I become lazy again with all its consequences. It is a powerful tool, and it is already changing my life - and in a persistent way, in my perception. It also happens, however, that there is still anxiety of where it will bring me in the end. But there is also excitement - where will this journey go? It doesn't seem to be a black hole at least, and that is good to know. :P I also can now understand somewhat more deeply, how the meditation program Laura created and implemented (I don't know, if it was the same EE, we're all doing today), brought the dramatic changes about her life, as it happened. And I feel much thankful to Laura, that she showed it to all of us :love: It is now the more appreciated by me, after some hard lessons had to be learned and suffered through. Now I think, that I maybe can make it yet, though not really sure - but however it may be, it has to be step after step on my respective level of learning. There are many things, that still need to be understood, since this is only the beginning.

Excuse the lenght, but I had to write this down, wanted to share it with the network. Thanks for reading :)

EDIT: Sentence added
 
Hi Learner,

I'm glad that your daily water intake is up to an acceptable level, you may well notice quite a difference in your health as a result.

It sounds as if you are making good progress with your E-E breathing programme. Are you a member of the E-E Forum?

http://eiriu-eolas.org/forum/

It would be good to repeat your post on that forum too, to share, and for newcomers to the E-E programme to benefit from you experience.
 
Hi Learner, good to hear you've been increasing your water intake, and thanks for sharing with us. :)

Gertrudes said:
I trust you will eventually find the source of those sensations Enaid. It might take a while, but with perseverance they will probably emerge.

It seems to me now that a lot of stuffed up emotions/themes are being processed in my dreams, because since that painful constriction I described before, I've been having lots of dreams, where I'm all hung up in old toxic behavioural patterns and choices.

Seems I need some time until I can on-the-spot draw the connections and have an aha-moment when a physical symptom occurs during the breathing. I agree with you, Gertrudes, it sure is an interesting topic, although I've only been reading about people's experiences with it. I'd really love to explore this, but I've found that my emotions are much slower, or rather, work in another way and need a different handling than the mind; so this learning thing goes pretty different from what I've always been picturing it. :P

My last full session hasn't been unusual, except that the day after I felt an intense feeling of 'purity' and full of energy -- followed however by moodiness and the feeling that there was lots of processing going on behind the scenes.
 
Iron said:
You too have a nice day, my friend. I'm glad of being able to help you out.

Iron, I just ordered the Program EE today, I hope everything will be OK. I'm a little nervous, I really don't know what to expect with this program, but reading posts by the members I feel a little ignorant. Maybe a little afraid, also. But it is time to take care, really care of myself. Your information was very "a propos" and also the commentaries of the other people.

When I will receive the DVD and the CD, what is the first step I have to take? Listen Mrs. Laura? Is that enough?

Bye Iron, have a nice day!

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