Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Avi]

If you are feeling emotionally and mentally refreshed and renewed then I wouldn't start wondering if it is 4d STS, Learner. Just enjoy that feeling of alert and vivid renewal.

And you are welcome. But, I am not the one who posted the link to that site, Manitoban did. :)

 

[OrangeScorpion]

Yesterday I received the DVD of Éiriú Eolas. I'm very enthusiastic. Today, at last, I practiced the full program and has been fascinating.

I go wheelchair, have a lot of spasticity in my legs, although I can't move or feel my legs, they are always tense and with spasms. With the practice of Éiriú Eolas have relaxed my legs!!! Also I felt my legs in a special way. It has been very exciting!!!

In the Beatha part I felt a bit muffled but it passed quickly. I felt a strange feeling in my nose, like a tickle inside. I guess this is normal, but I want to explain that the Beatha part and three stage breathing I have practiced them lying down, sitting in the wheelchair I'm not comfortable and relaxed and I preferred lie on the bed. I wonder if this is counterproductive.

 

[Learner]

I go wheelchair, have a lot of spasticity in my legs, although I can't move or feel my legs, they are always tense and with spasms. With the practice of Éiriú Eolas have relaxed my legs!!! Also I felt my legs in a special way. It has been very exciting!!!

This is really great to hear, that EE brings this benefit for you! It is a marvellous thing, isn't it? :D

I felt a strange feeling in my nose, like a tickle inside. I guess this is normal

I think, a tickling sense in the nose during Beatha is normal. If I remember correctly, practitioners have reported about it in this thread and elsewhere. To offer my own perspective, since I started EE first in November 2009 I sometimes felt such a tickling or something similar to it in the nose, often even a tingling in my extremities, while doing Beatha. But since recently, two sessions in a row, it didn't occur anymore. I don't know, if it is just a matter of time the body needs to adjust to this kind of breathing. I also tried to align my breathing during Baha to Laura's voice and found myself better to go with the rhythm, than before. Probably this is also one reason why the tickling sense or the tingling didn't return (at least not until now).

but I want to explain that the Beatha part and three stage breathing I have practiced them lying down, sitting in the wheelchair I'm not comfortable and relaxed and I preferred lie on the bed. I wonder if this is counterproductive.

I don't think, it is counterproductive, if you can relax better while lying down. Some people find it more comfortable to practice while sitting, others while lying down and some also can do on some days better while sitting, on other days while lying down. It depends, with what you feel at most comfortable and can relax best. These are just my two cents, probably others can offer an additional perspective. fwiw :)

 

[Learner]

If you are feeling emotionally and mentally refreshed and renewed then I wouldn't start wondering if it is 4d STS, Learner. Just enjoy that feeling of alert and vivid renewal.

And you are welcome. But, I am not the one who posted the link to that site, Manitoban did. :)

Oups, didn't notice, that Manitoban posted the link. So - Thanks, Manitoban! :)

But Herakles, thanks for the heads-up. I think, you're right - it is a contradiction to think, it could be 4D-STS, while feeling that vitalized and renewed I felt after the dream and that night's sleep from last Thursday to Friday. In fact, I feel like DCM gave me another chance to sort out the things I very much restricted against and opposed to last year, and maybe the feeling of renewal is to give me enough energy to do so after a period of being stuck very much.
This includes networking more and to open myself more up here. It is an ongoing fight against my internal predator, but things are in the flow and getting prepared. I don't want to miss that chance again.

That's actually not enough. Two or three cups a day is very little.

Absolutely.

But the actual thing I want to tell: It disappeared completely after the diet changes (and EE was added). I have almost no problems anymore with this. Additionally, I must say that this winter is much colder than the preceding ones, and I go very often for a walk outside (one hour at least, but usually more), even at night, mostly at night when it is colder than in the daytime. My skin is still totally smooth, no problems with cold; lips, too. I don't know what exactly caused the health to become better. EE, diet, food supplements, stress reduction. Perhaps everything together. I have, admittedly, never expected such great changes to take place in such a short period of time.

This is great to hear, that your body improved so much by implementing the dietary changes and EE, Sirius! This gives me hope as well. Btw., the outside walk is a very good idea. However, I am living in a city with lots of traffic, and I have to go by tram usually to reach the large urban forests. So, if I do a walk in the evening, it is usually a quite short one - one round around the block of houses in my district. I also like walking outside best in the evening/at night, when the traffic has abated a bit. Maybe I will add several rounds and go for a walk more often, also exploring new places.

Sounds not good. Did you descale the water you gave your plants? Maybe they don't like it. They want your tea :P

Well, the water is descaled due to the process of filtering - I guess, they like my tea more and at best my tap water. Going to have tea time with my plants... :P

 

[agni]

Hello All,

A person I know recently started to practice EE, she suffered from chronic headaches for quite some time now. And during one of the episodes started doing EE, she was screaming after Ba-Ha portion, and reported migraine being gone for the day.

Later in the week, she had an episode of 4 day migraine streak. Pain usually radiates from right side of the head: head, eye & pain breathing in right nostril. While she claims she was able to relax left side of the body during EE while having a migraine, she was not able to do so this time, as if something stopping from right side to be relaxed, so it remained tense. Moreover she had a feeling that the whole bed is inclined to the right while doing EE.

According to her prior MRI results:

" There is scattered hyper-intensity in FLAIR sequence involving the bilateral frontal lobe as well as the lest parietal lobe toward the high convexity. There bright foci on T2 and FLAIR sequence are non-specific without corresponding T1 signal alteration. The findings in proper clinical setting can be associated with migraine. Saggital sequence reveals evidence of a partially empty sella as an anatomical variation. "

Is there any suggestion I can give to a person ? Any thoughts ? Any precautions for EE for a person with a history of migraines ? For the record she is doing complete program.

Thank You.

 

[Aiming]

I am drinking way too little per day: two or three cups of water probably.

That's actually not enough. Two or three cups a day is very little.

I agree with Sirius, that's way too little. Hope you've been increasing your intake already.

I also found this about swimming here: _http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/s4.htm

To dream that you are swimming, suggests that you are exploring aspects of your unconscious mind and emotions. The dream may be a sign that you are seeking some sort of emotional support. It is a common dream image for people going through therapy.

Maybe it relates to the cleansing process due to EE - that you try to get through all the layers of old emotions and related issues in order to find truly to yourself. Though this place is still artificial (it is a swimming pool, not a lake or the sea), you are trying to explore yourself in some playful manner - and maybe you will swim through the exit some day, that leads to a lake or right into the sea: a real place. fwiw :)

Thanks for looking it up, Learner. The interpretation does fit my current state.

Last night's session was interesting in so far as I felt that constricted knot in my left side again -- it had vanished for a few weeks. Yesterday however, it was much more pronounced to the point that it hurt while breathing, and I couldn't breathe deeply because of it. It's certainly interesting that it's coming up during a time where I'm facing a new turn in the digging up of subconscious dynamics.
What I did was going into it (but there was lots of resistance), and what I then felt was that this 'pain' actually expanded into my solar plexus, accompanied by a feeling of nausea, followed by a tiny upsurge of sadness on the brink of tears. But the defense/fear was too strong, I guess, because I couldn't find out about the underlying theme.

 

[tom32071]

I recently got the new EE dvds/cd. They are excellent. While watching it I discovered that I had not been doing the "pipe breathing" quite right.

Now that I have it more correctly hopefully I will be making better progress. :)

 

[Lucius]

Last night I had a lot of dreams, thanks to EE remember more dreams.
I have noticed new thing I can "automatic" analyse my dreams.

 

[Gawan]

I recently got the new EE dvds/cd. They are excellent. While watching it I discovered that I had not been doing the "pipe breathing" quite right.

Now that I have it more correctly hopefully I will be making better progress. :)

Sometimes it is good re-watching it, cause to correct some things again as you mentioned, at least it helped me sometimes.

But what haven't you done quite right, tom32071?

 

[loreta]

Hi,
maybe I sound naive, but can someone tell me the difference between the program of EE and mindfull meditation? I do mindfull meditation. But I was thinking in taking the program of EE. I visited the web page of EE but is still vague for me. What is the difference for the health? Is there an article that I can read to have a more appropriate idea?

Thanks!

 

[Gertrudes]

Last night's session was interesting in so far as I felt that constricted knot in my left side again -- it had vanished for a few weeks. Yesterday however, it was much more pronounced to the point that it hurt while breathing, and I couldn't breathe deeply because of it. It's certainly interesting that it's coming up during a time where I'm facing a new turn in the digging up of subconscious dynamics.
What I did was going into it (but there was lots of resistance), and what I then felt was that this 'pain' actually expanded into my solar plexus, accompanied by a feeling of nausea, followed by a tiny upsurge of sadness on the brink of tears. But the defense/fear was too strong, I guess, because I couldn't find out about the underlying theme.

I find it very interesting how in some of us EE can manifest with such strong physical sensations that often seem to be emotionally related. I too have had on and off physical sensations, mostly in my chest, forehead and occasionally top of the head (crown area). I trust you will eventually find the source of those sensations Enaid. It might take a while, but with perseverance they will probably emerge.

As an example, over an year ago I noticed an uncomfortable pressure in my chest whenever I did EE, which I also reported here. That sensation became stronger during a period of time and has since been gradually subsiding, to be now completely gone. When I look back, I see the source of it, or at least I think I do, in some past issues needing to be dealt with, and that are finally being looked at.
What you are feeling is different, of course, but it might follow a similar dynamic in that as you meditate and continue digging inside, the layers of the onion start to peel.

On a side note, I recently had an accident in which I damaged my esophagus described in this thread. Interestingly, I am left with a still damaged part where food gets stuck that is precisely, not even an inch of difference, the spot where I used to feel those uncomfortable ball like sensations during EE. Not sure it is related, although due to its location and to some inner changes related to emotional releases undergone over the last months, there is a possibility that it could be.

 

[Gertrudes]

Hi Loreta,

Perhaps the best thing would be for you to see the introductory video that is freely available at the EE website here: http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/
In it, Laura explains the program in detail, so hopefully that should help you understand more clearly what EE is about.

 

[Iron]

Hi,
maybe I sound naive, but can someone tell me the difference between the program of EE and mindfull meditation? I do mindfull meditation. But I was thinking in taking the program of EE. I visited the web page of EE but is still vague for me. What is the difference for the health? Is there an article that I can read to have a more appropriate idea?

Thanks!

Well, the program is more than just the meditation.

It is composed of the three stage breathing, for gentle stimulation of the vagus nerve, who is involved in the control of appetite, levels of stress, inflammation and much more. The vagus nerve is located on the brainstem and comes down in the sides of the neck, innervating the heart and the abdomen.

See this quote from an article published on the Eiriu Eolas website.

http://eiriu-eolas.org/2010/11/19/new-understanding-of-vagus-nerves-role-in-regulating-inflammation/

..In fact, thanks to the scientific detective work of Kevin Tracey, MD, it turns out that the brain talks directly to the immune system, sending commands that control the body’s inflammatory response to infection and autoimmune diseases.
Understanding the intimate relationship is leading to a novel way to treat diseases triggered by a dangerous inflammatory response.
Dr. Tracey, director and chief executive of The Feinstein Institute for Medical Research, will be giving the 2007 Stetten Lecture on Wednesday, Oct. 24, at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda, MD. His talk – Physiology and Immunology of the Cholinergic Anti-inflammatory Pathway – will highlight the discoveries made in his laboratory and the clinical trials underway to test the theory that stimulation of the vagus nerve could block a rogue inflammatory response and treat a number of diseases, including life-threatening sepsis.
With this new understanding of the vagus nerve’s role in regulating inflammation, scientists believe that they can tap into the body’s natural healing defenses and calm the sepsis storm before it wipes out its victims. Each year, 750,000 people in the United States develop severe sepsis, and 215,000 will die no matter how hard doctors fight to save them. Sepsis is triggered by the body’s own overpowering immune response to a systemic infection, and hospitals are the battlegrounds for these potentially lethal conditions.

There is more to it. There is the warrior breath, that is usefull for expeling stale air of the lungs, and at another level, to expel frustation. There is next the bioenergetic breathing, that in conjunction with the three stage breathing and warrior breath expels physical toxins and ancient, stale emotions stored in you.

The bioenergetic breathing, also known as round breathing by the chinese, is a very powerfull tool in processing old emotions and things that get "stuck" in you. This processing may occur via dreams, or tears, but it brings change, and everlasting change.
For last there is the meditation, that forms a link between you and the divine cosmic mind, represented by your higher self.
All those elements form the EE program. So, it not just a meditation, like others.

Another note on the meditation, is that is a meditation with seed, that being a meditation based on words, filled with meaning and purpose. Meditating on words makes easier for the mind not to wander, and offers a safe and productive point of return for the mind.
The purpose of mindless awareness is the same, however, the forms that I practiced are all without seed, concentrating on stillness of mind. Its a good purpose, however you are not "filling" yourself with nothing. You are getting high levels of concentration and not using this time to "reprogram" yourself.

I hope this was usefull. In short EE program attempts to clear your emotional and physical toxins, teaching how to breathe properly and linking you with the divine mind in the process.

The articles at Eiriu Eolas.org are a good reading on the subject. Also, of course the video of Laura explaining the program in much better words than I.

this article http://saveyourself.ca/articles/respiration-connection.php also is a good read, explaining how poor breathing habits are linked to emotional and physical dysfunction.

 

[loreta]

Well, the program is more than just the meditation.

It is composed of the three stage breathing, for gentle stimulation of the vagus nerve, who is involved in the control of appetite, levels of stress, inflammation and much more. The vagus nerve is located on the brainstem and comes down in the sides of the neck, innervating the heart and the abdomen.

See this quote from an article published on the Eiriu Eolas website.

http://eiriu-eolas.org/2010/11/19/new-understanding-of-vagus-nerves-role-in-regulating-inflammation/

Iron, Thank you very much for the links and the information. Yes, its different than mindfulness meditation (I do it with some Cd's from John Kabat-Zinn, that I think its a very very interesting man. But I think it is not enough because I still feel mad, sad, and with rage, and I still have difficulty with some past situations.

So today I will order the EE program- this year its for me a year of change, I wanted this way. I feel it this way. Surely, I will have more questions to ask, we will see.

Thank you my friend, have a nice day!

Mod's note : Edited to fix the quotation boxes.

 

[loreta]

I'm sorry, I still have problems to make an intelligent post. There is an error with the quote. My post it the quote and the quote is the post. What a mess.

Mod's note : Your post has been fixed. ;)