Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

I've been having some very positive experiences with EE recently although I'm generally only managing one full session a week. Recent sessions have been intense with much emotional cleansing and tears which are always a welcome release.

Since I began the program when it was rolled out I've occasionally had an experience during the round breathing which has been very prevalent during the last couple of sessions. It's a little hard to describe but in essence it feels as though my entire state of mind shifts to another zone just for a split second and I 'see' or rather experience something incredibly beautiful. It's strange because it is at once an extremely familiar feeling, almost like a memory of something, but at the same time unlike anything in my waking state of consciousness. Yes, I think a memory of somewhere else that I no longer have access to would be how I'd describe it. I often think and wonder if I may be remembering or accessing the mindset of myself being a very young child. Probably sounds a bit new agey really and I've no idea if there's anything significant happening in real terms (could just be the natural response to a well oxygenated body!), but subjectively it's certainly a very powerful and beautiful experience and always moves me to tears of cleansing (although i do also have tears during round breathing when I don't encounter this particular experience). It's definitely inspirational and i remember thinking last week after EE that this experience was a genuine inspiration to carry on the work on myself.

Also just wanted to mention dreams after EE. Not sure if this has been mentioned by anyone but I occasionally have dreams after EE in which there is a a complete disconnection between the actual content of the dream and my actual experience. Basically, these dreams are incredibly dark and menacing in their objective content but are experienced by me as being deeply healing with no fear, upset or trauma at all. An example of this was a few months back. Upon falling asleep after EE I had a dream which seemed to go on forever. In the dream I went to visit a colleague of mine who in real life has had somewhat of a nervous breakdown (depression and anxiety) and has recently had a spell in a psychiatric hospital.

So in the dream he was living in this horrendous place, a kind of squat which when I climbed inside through some broken windows was basically a cave with alcoholics, drug addicts and dismembered corpses all over the place. It was truly a horrible environment but I was surrounded by this techni-colour energy hanging from the roof of the cave which seemed to completely shield me from the negative effects. Usually, dreams with this type of content would send me bolt-right up in bed in a cold sweat. Again, the objective visual setting was truly horrible and was incredibly vivid and but myself and my colleague spent what seemed like hours just talking and communing on a very deep and personal level in this place which was his abode and I really felt towards the end that something had been completed or 'worked out' between us. It felt very cathartic. Upon waking I felt very refreshed, cleansed and actually a little sad and nostalgic that the dream was over.

I experienced many similar style dreams when I first began EE but nothing for a long time until recently. Reflecting on these particular types of dream it feels as if I'm being allowed to observe/experience some incredibly nasty things but from a disposition of almost total protection. Of course this is very subjective and I may be way off in my interpretation but from someone who has been genuinely haunted and disturbed by many dreams all my life, I can only say that they 'feel' profoundly healing. I only hope that one day I'll get the chance to find out exactly what was going on!

 

[ana]

I experienced many similar style dreams when I first began EE but nothing for a long time until recently. Reflecting on these particular types of dream it feels as if I'm being allowed to observe/experience some incredibly nasty things but from a disposition of almost total protection. Of course this is very subjective and I may be way off in my interpretation but from someone who has been genuinely haunted and disturbed by many dreams all my life, I can only say that they 'feel' profoundly healing. I only hope that one day I'll get the chance to find out exactly what was going on!

Good to know you are feeling positive about it all, you seem to be finding yourself in a more relaxed, opened and full of acceptance mode wich brings a sense of confidence in yourself and trust in the healing process. Maybe that's why in the dream you were able to deeply look the darkness without fear, embracing that part of yourself (your friend)? wich is been suffering for so long. :)

 

[Lizziespreparetogovegan]

Good to know you are feeling positive about it all, you seem to be finding yourself in a more relaxed, opened and full of acceptance mode wich brings a sense of confidence in yourself and trust in the healing process. Maybe that's why in the dream you were able to deeply look the darkness without fear, embracing that part of yourself (your friend)? wich is been suffering for so long. :)

Yes Ana, this sounds about right. I seem to have my head above water at the moment for a change and am trying to move my energies from hatred and bitterness of aspects of myself over to this 'acceptance' and then focusing on trying to address my issues/programs in a constructive way.

In terms of EE one thing I need still need to address is more concentration on POTS. I tend to become quite 'lazy' when listening to POTS at the end of EE sessions, my interior monologue being quite noisy and can often find myself thinking about all sorts of mundane day-today issues/worries and thus not really concentrating and connecting with the meaning and energy of the words. I've had some deeply moving experiences with POTS in the past which I've written about on this thread so am acutely aware of its powerful effect on the psyche. This needs work....

 

[ana]

In terms of EE one thing I need still need to address is more concentration on POTS. I tend to become quite 'lazy' when listening to POTS at the end of EE sessions, my interior monologue being quite noisy and can often find myself thinking about all sorts of mundane day-today issues/worries and thus not really concentrating and connecting with the meaning and energy of the words.

Lazyness or tiredness are pretty common to experience at first, this occurs because there isn't enough amount of attention (observing consciousness). As you continue practicing, observing all the objects that come to mind (thoughts, visible forms, asociations, etc) without identification you will experience more and more flexibility of mind so you can easily concentrate at will with stability and clarity.

The state of your body is also important a healthy body helps us stay at frequencies that facilitate this process.

It can also help you to take some time before starting EE to make a review of your day, your interactions, your sensations and feelings regarding the daily situations so that it can be processed in advance and doesn't appears so strongly during the meditation portion.

It has helped me, hope it serves you also :)

 

[Ollie]

Once again, on Monday, wet eyes and yawning during both three-stage pipe breathing and Beatha. During a group session on Tuesday, I experienced amazing clarity during PotS. Again on Thursday, I experienced wet eyes during pipe breathing, and during PotS a restless right leg again, followed by wet eyes at the end.

 

[Bar Kochba]

I tried the entire program last night for the first time. I've been doing pipe breath daily since November, but never the rest of the program. Wow. I thought I was a fit man until last night. I had trouble/pain sitting up straight in the upright position while doing the 3 stage breathing. I toughed it out but it was almost laughable how I struggled. And, after exerting myself tremendously (I am still amazed by the amount of concentration and effort I had to expend!), I went into the meditative portion and of course fell asleep exhausted.
What a shock, to me. This has galvanized me to accomplish eventually completing this entire program as directed with no pain and no fatigue. I'm probably a long way from that goal, but I will have fun getting there.
I want to express verbal and heartfelt appreciation to those who took the time and work to put this program together. Thank you.

 

[manitoban]

I tried the entire program last night for the first time. I've been doing pipe breath daily since November, but never the rest of the program. Wow. I thought I was a fit man until last night. I had trouble/pain sitting up straight in the upright position while doing the 3 stage breathing.

Bar Kochba, a lot of people prefer to do the 3 stage breathing lying down, as they find it more comfortable than sitting. The main thing is to be comfortable and relaxed, you don't want to be distracted by pain, so you might want to give that a try and see if it's more comfortable for you.

 

[Gawan]

I've been doing EE for around 6 months now, many times a week.

I really enjoy the bioenergetic part, followed by the meditation part. The bioenergetic breathing kind of puts me in a very focused mental state that I enjoy and that I keep until the prayer of the soul in the other segment. Optimal combo for me !

I used to do it sitting upstrait, as demonstrated. However, I sometimes have little back issues so I recently decided to try the breathing lying on the back. Works great for the diaphragm. However, a weird new tcikling sensation quickly appears in my face (mentionned in the EE FAQ actually along with hyperventilation symptoms ?). It is initially located around the jaw and becomes very, very intense by the 3rd round. Intense to the point that I loose my concentration and wonder what on earth is going on in my face. It also extends to my forearm and hands. Then when getting to the meditative part, it all goes away fairly quickly.

Hi Omega, are you doing the entire program many times a week, or just some parts of it? Just wondering, cause the beatha (bio-energetic) part should be done 2 times a week only, since it is a really powerful breathing technique.

And are you doing the program with the audio-CD and I assume these tingling sensations are happening during the beatha part?

 

[cubbex]

Thanks to the 3 stage I have big muscles!

I didn't the complete breath programm because I did it on monday and I got a little stressed.

 

[Nienna]

I tried the entire program last night for the first time. I've been doing pipe breath daily since November, but never the rest of the program. Wow. I thought I was a fit man until last night. I had trouble/pain sitting up straight in the upright position while doing the 3 stage breathing.

Bar Kochba, a lot of people prefer to do the 3 stage breathing lying down, as they find it more comfortable than sitting. The main thing is to be comfortable and relaxed, you don't want to be distracted by pain, so you might want to give that a try and see if it's more comfortable for you.

What manitoban says here is really important, or so I think. It is really important for the person doing the program to be very comfortable. Some people do feel more comfortable sitting up, others prefer doing the program while in a recliner, or as manitoban said, lying down. WHATEVER way you feel most comfortable is the way to do the program.

Some people sit up for the 3-stage breathing and warrior's breath, and then lie down for the beatha and POTS. It all depends on what works for you to feel most comfortable and relaxed. :)

 

[Omega]

I've been doing EE for around 6 months now, many times a week.

I really enjoy the bioenergetic part, followed by the meditation part. The bioenergetic breathing kind of puts me in a very focused mental state that I enjoy and that I keep until the prayer of the soul in the other segment. Optimal combo for me !

I used to do it sitting upstrait, as demonstrated. However, I sometimes have little back issues so I recently decided to try the breathing lying on the back. Works great for the diaphragm. However, a weird new tcikling sensation quickly appears in my face (mentionned in the EE FAQ actually along with hyperventilation symptoms ?). It is initially located around the jaw and becomes very, very intense by the 3rd round. Intense to the point that I loose my concentration and wonder what on earth is going on in my face. It also extends to my forearm and hands. Then when getting to the meditative part, it all goes away fairly quickly.

Hi Omega, are you doing the entire program many times a week, or just some parts of it? Just wondering, cause the beatha (bio-energetic) part should be done 2 times a week only, since it is a really powerful breathing technique.

And are you doing the program with the audio-CD and I assume these tingling sensations are happening during the beatha part?

Hi Legolas,

Actually, I only do parts of the programs, many times a week. Now that you mention it, I might do the Ba-ha part more than 2 times a week from time to time. Yes the tingling sensations appear during that period, but only when I do it laying on the back. There is no such sensations when I do it sitting. But like I said, due to some back incomfort when sitting straight, I've started doing it laying down and that's when it started appearing.

As for the program itself, I've transfered everything on my Ipod and that's how I listen to it.

Can't say I'm that worried, its just very powerful sensations so I was kind of looking at why is there a difference between doing it sitting and laying down. Was wondering if anyone had ever try it.

Thanks for your time.

 

[Ollie]

My experiences of the full EE programme this week consisted of: Monday, Yawning during Beatha and a restless right leg/toes continuing through into PotS; Thursday, wet eyes as soon as pipe breathing started, continuing into Beatha with yawning followed again by a restless right leg/toes.

Something else I’ve noticed this week is, on odd occasions, out of the corner of my eye (sometimes above, too) a fleeting shadow of something – as if someone was passing by – yet nothing was physically there.

 

[Harold]

My experiences with EE this week.

This is lately too, I do get tearing, and wet eyes during POTS, last night especially.

During the full EE at class this week. In the meditation, I had a sense that I dissapreared or zoned out maybe? Anyways, when I returned, I had a very strange sensation of moving really fast. My eyes were closed but I could see a very fast movement, at the same time I had a feeling in my stomach like nausea you get when you are moving really fast too... that was very interesting and a little weird.

 

[cubbex]

Why sometimes EE produce stress and emotions to the edge, and sometimes just helps you to understand incredible things?

 

[herondancer]

Why sometimes EE produce stress and emotions to the edge, and sometimes just helps you to understand incredible things?

Remember that one of the main reasons for doing EE (besides stress reduction and detoxification) is to open up communication with the Higher Self. So the different effects you are seeing from you practice could be from detoxing, which can bring on emotional swings, or clearing old emotional traumas. The wisdom of this higher part of our being will set the pace of our progress. So sometimes you may have strong emotions positive or negative, and other times you may have insights to "incredible things". Sometimes you can go for long stretches without anything remarkable happening at all. It's important to notice these different circumstances as they arise, especially the incredible things, but not get overly caught up in them. Just keep up your practice, and let the process flow. Who knows how far it can take you? :)