Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program
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Brunauld said:
Indeed. Also during the times when it seems like nothing is happening, there are still some shifts and changes happening in levels deeper than our everyday awareness can't detect, but if we pay attention, they manifest in new behaviors and how we control our emotions in each situation. At least that has been true in my case. My grandfather and one of my uncles (father and son) left this world recently, in a space of 40 days. I took time to grieve their loss and also for the feelings of the rest of the family (my mother and the rest of the aunts and uncles lost their father and younger brother, my two young cousins lost their father). But unlike in the past, i felt a sense of acceptance for their loss and an understanding, even if not intellectual, if that makes any sense. In other words, my grief did not consume me, so i was able to be there for the rest of the family (even from a distance) and complete my daily responsibilities.
I do feel that the EE program helps build something strong in me/us, even if the faith that "to everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven". I have been thinking of these words a lot recently, while reading the Odyssey again, and they feel "right" for luck of better word:
To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing.
A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
From Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
cubbex
The Living Force
Yes. This last days after EE session I got to accept my cowardly and more deffects in myself. The process lead me to discover lot of things and what I were not in a dramatic way, discovering what behaviors were programmed in myself, I kind of connected with something inside me, it was just something different, I mean, the only way I could describe it was love, but it was not a feeling, it was more like a new understanding, a new perspective.
ines
The Force is Strong With This One
Hello, here are some of my experiences with EE
(and changes which maybe are related to EE):
I am doing the full programme regularly since 4 months. Before that, I just did round-breathing from time to time and the prayer of the soul often. First I did it two times a week, now I am doing between one and two sessions a week and the prayer every evening.
The first two, three sessions I had a bizarre feeling round the area of the „solarplexus?“, a feeling like „shame“ or so, but It disappeared.
In the first time I had many nightmares, waked up screaming and filled with intense fear. But it changed and I feel more relaxed, think I can cope better with reality, so to say.
And I am not so shy like before.
I was vegetarian nine years long, but suddenly I became hungry of fish and started it eating, short after I introduced meat. (Now I am eating primary meat and fish :) )
I have to say a BIG THANK YOU for this programme!
(and changes which maybe are related to EE):
I am doing the full programme regularly since 4 months. Before that, I just did round-breathing from time to time and the prayer of the soul often. First I did it two times a week, now I am doing between one and two sessions a week and the prayer every evening.
The first two, three sessions I had a bizarre feeling round the area of the „solarplexus?“, a feeling like „shame“ or so, but It disappeared.
In the first time I had many nightmares, waked up screaming and filled with intense fear. But it changed and I feel more relaxed, think I can cope better with reality, so to say.
And I am not so shy like before.
I was vegetarian nine years long, but suddenly I became hungry of fish and started it eating, short after I introduced meat. (Now I am eating primary meat and fish :) )
I have to say a BIG THANK YOU for this programme!
davey72
The Living Force
I am curious about the sounds in the background? There are noises that are similar to a fax machine, or something, and other types of sounds that could just be a squeaky chair. Could this have anything to do with the positive spin that the c's have put into the recording?
Wunjo
Padawan Learner
Wunjo said:
Hello again,
I am still having difficulty with understanding the Beathea portion of EE. I should have spoken up some time ago because I did not feel clear on the answers given to me, but the fear program had a hold of me, so I did not. My question is still about the volume of air taken in during the breathing segment. Am I taking the same volume of air as in the shorter segments as in the longer segments, thereby inhaling and exhaling harder or am I taking in less air, and if so how much less. When I take a natural breath in tune with the faster portions I feel like I am not even really breathing. When I attempt to follow the pace with a larger breath I feel out of breath. One is a challenge to continue, the other is not. Since they feel to be at such opposite ends of the spectrum I think they would not have the same affect and one would be correct while the other would not. Which is the proper way?
Thank You
Hi Wunjo,
The key thing is to breathe in and out as deeply as is comfortable. When the tempo speeds up, it really isn't possible to take in the same volume of air as you could with the slow tempo. It's not a test to see how much air you can get in and out with each baha. So just breath in as much as you can comfortably with each tempo change. You will find that as your lung capacity increases with practicing three-stage breathing, you may begin to be able to inhale and exhale more, and it's ok to challenge yourself a little. But this can also be affected by how you are feeling physically and mentally. Some days my respiration muscles feel relaxed and my ribcage more supple. It's easy to breathe more deeply at the faster tempo. Other days I need to take shallower breaths to keep up. Each session is a unique experience. It more important that you are doing it within the full sessions on Monday and Thursday if possible, because that helps the group energy build.
Hope that helps :)
The key thing is to breathe in and out as deeply as is comfortable. When the tempo speeds up, it really isn't possible to take in the same volume of air as you could with the slow tempo. It's not a test to see how much air you can get in and out with each baha. So just breath in as much as you can comfortably with each tempo change. You will find that as your lung capacity increases with practicing three-stage breathing, you may begin to be able to inhale and exhale more, and it's ok to challenge yourself a little. But this can also be affected by how you are feeling physically and mentally. Some days my respiration muscles feel relaxed and my ribcage more supple. It's easy to breathe more deeply at the faster tempo. Other days I need to take shallower breaths to keep up. Each session is a unique experience. It more important that you are doing it within the full sessions on Monday and Thursday if possible, because that helps the group energy build.
Hope that helps :)
davey72 said:
I'm pretty sure that's Laura's abacus, used for counting repetitions.
Mrs.Tigersoap
The Living Force
AI said:
Alright! I thought it was Laura's bracelets clinking when she was moving!
Monday ended up as Tuesday this week, in a group, I experienced wet eyes during PotS, and as I’ve indicated before a lot of clarity during PotS. On Thursday, yawning and wet eyes during PotS, the longest zone out I’ve had for a long time, from round about the second repetition to the start of track 1 of the CD! And, I arrived at an answer, during the night, to a question posed before and during PotS - before zoning out.
Wunjo
Padawan Learner
herondancer said:
Hello Herondancer,
Thank you very much, I am excited to try the breathing with this new mindset. The old, all or nothing, left me in such a state that I couldn't finish due to such and endurance/ anxiety struggle with myself. Guess that's a lesson right there.
I realize that my previous view was very formatory in its all or nothing aspect. I still struggle with that in my life. Thank you for helping me see it in more of a "Yes and No" perspecting instead of the "Yes or No." I have also noticed that now that I've gotten into breathing with my belly far more, that attempting to go into upper lungs feels incredibly tight in my ribs and unatural now. Just an observation. I will work on adding more enrgy to the group process by joining in on Monday and Thursday.
Thank You
theos
The Living Force
During Monday's EE session I had a few episodes of sobbing starting during the 3 stage breathing and ending in the Ba-ha. I zoned out during the middle of the ba-ha and into the POTS and came to at the end. I think the crying came from a feeling of being stagnated and wanting to progress. I felt better afterward but I've still been very fatiqued lately as others on the forum have reported.
Wunjo said:
Yes, that's very common. With our sedentary lifestyle, it's easy for whole section of the body to become "frozen" so to speak. You might want to try some of the warm-up exercises on the dvd before you start. They are all focused on gently relaxing the body to enable deeper breathing. It helps too, to do the three-stage breathing on your back. Since your torso muscles don't have to worry about holding you up, they can relax. Just keep practicing. Patience will pay. In just a few months you will be amazed at how much more capacity you will have, and how easy it will be to belly-breath without having to remind yourself.
