Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

truth seeker said:
Aragorn said:
RedFox said:
truth seeker said:
I got really sick yesterday - like a stomach flu complete with fever, chills and body aches.

What's unusual is that what I ate the night before, I also had that same morning with no effects. The night that I went to sleep (just prior to getting sick the next morning) I had a really good breathing/meditation session. Initially when I woke up I felt mostly fine, but withing a half hour everything hit and was completely incapacitated. Is this one of the things that can happen as part of the cleansing?

fwiw I've been having a few problems along those lines (but not as bad, although I did get mild food poisoning) the last week....however I have put it down to poor diet/change of environment.....
Now I'm back in my normal environment (and my diet is slightly better) I'm paying attention to my health. I did seem to get a few problems but so far there not much to suggest thats its anything other than coincidental, or perhaps part of an attack/general law trying to distract the process.
A note however, is that it may be your body is the current line of communication......so perhaps try interpretting it? This has been working for me.

Trevrizent said:
First, in the morning, on the journey to the mountains by car, I suffered from chronic constipation (most unusual); when half way there I suddenly realized what it was all about - hanging on to old programmes, buffers, limiting decisions, etc - and I burst out into raucous laughter. The pain suddenly halved and I kept chucling to myself all day, even when walking in the mountains (I physically overcame the problem with an overdose of Vit C).

The one thing I will say is that I do seem extremal tired (physically) from doing this the last few weeks. I wonder if part of me (that blocks my emotions) is needing more energy to block?? Fighting myself perhaps.....
After doing the full sessions at night I wake up rested (relaxed) but exhausted, if thats even possible.

Since I started doing the breathing program in the evening I've also had mornings when I feel like a truck had drove over me, even though I slept pretty well. Interestingly enough, regarding the discussion about the possible connection between the FIR and breathing sessions (similar zoning out), I last evening experienced extreme heat while doing the Eiri-program. Three quarters through Laura's audio session I was sweating like I was in a FIR-sauna. Felt like burning up!

Anyone else had similar experiences?

Same here. At first I had pretty sound sleep and still do sometimes but then I felt rested in the mornings. Now it's as though someone has beaten me up!

RedFox said:
Aragorn said:
Since I started doing the breathing program in the evening I've also had mornings when I feel like a truck had drove over me, even though I slept pretty well. Interestingly enough, regarding the discussion about the possible connection between the FIR and breathing sessions (similar zoning out), I last evening experienced extreme heat while doing the Eiri-program. Three quarters through Laura's audio session I was sweating like I was in a FIR-sauna. Felt like burning up!

Anyone else had similar experiences?

I also had the extreme heat last night. I actually found it quite relaxing (just like the FIR). I also noticed that I was extremely fidgety during the whole thing until that point (lots of internal/physical distractions). I wonder if its having a similar effect as the FIR, hence why using it with the FIR causes you to zone out? (i.e. a double dosage of a similar thing).

Your right about feeling like you've been hit by a truck even though some of the sleep I've had is the most deep and restful I've had in years, once or twice though I did wake up all night. I guess somethings going on!
I am a little worried about feeling so tired (despite sleeping so heavily)....but perhaps its just that I've finally been able to rest/de-stress and this 'tiredness' is just my body recovering?? If anyone has any insight I'd be grateful to know. There is this worrying feeling today that my body is about to fall appart...there seems to be a lot of friction with that too (like I'm holding myself together?)....hmm

alphonse said:
We did it last night, at about 9pm British Summer Time, hoping others were too.
fwiw I started the program around 10pm GMT

I did it on Monday about 8pm Belgium time and had a really good session. Lots of energy. Perhaps I was energized by everyone else...

Also about the feeling tired, it feels as if something's trying to hang on. I even had a dream last week where someone was asking me "why". I've had quite a few dreams like that where there was sadness attached to it.

Maybe the program also affects body physiologically and physically, which would be logic. Maybe the answer for this is to listen to the body and to rest it as much as possible. I too am feeling a need for more sleep, which is very hard if you live in noisy street such as mine. Who knows maybe this is way to slightly better body, which will use energy more practically; anyway I think that it should work better, as in "mens sana in corpore sano" :)

Anyone have feeling of energy flowing through the spine and around limbs and it somehow is big in upper back area, little bit "mighty" feeling? (don’t know how to describe it beter)
 
Just want to share some infos found in the Ra Material regarding some of the effects noticed during meditation and reported in this thread. Can however, not say if same are corrects, but it can give a better understanding
:from the Law of One, Session 50
Questioner: Each of us feels, in meditation, energy upon the head in various places. Could you tell me what this is, what it signifies, and what the various places in which we feel it signify?
Ra: I am Ra. Forgetting the pyramid will be of aid to you in the study of these experiences. The in-streamings of energy are felt by the energy centers which need, and are prepared for, activation. Thus those who feel the stimulation at violet-ray level are getting just that. Those feeling it within the forehead between the brows are experiencing indigo ray and so forth. Those experiencing tingling and visual images are having some blockage in the energy center being activated and thus the electrical body spreads this energy out and its effect is diffused.

Those not truly sincerely requesting this energy may yet feel it if the entities are not well-trained in psychic defense. Those not desirous of experiencing these sensations and activations and changes even upon the subconscious level will not experience anything due to their abilities at defense and armoring against change.

Questioner: Is it normal to get two simultaneous stimulations at once?

Ra: I am Ra. The most normal for the adept is the following: the indigo stimulation activating that great gateway into healing, magical work, prayerful attention, and the radiance of being; and the stimulation of the violet ray which is the spiritual giving and taking from and to Creator, from Creator to Creator.

This is a desirable configuration.
 
Today, I seemed to have 'zoned' for the first time during the full meditation session. Twice during the later period of the Ba-Ha portion, and once in the Prayer recital. It was different, not like when you temporarily drift off (to sleep) and come back quickly.

Each instance seemed to have lasted mere seconds, yet there was an amazing sense of timelessness or "forever" aspect to it. The way i felt that was when I noticed Laura's voice again and observed that my breathing was still in sync, I 'felt forever' in the sense that I had been doing this particular meditation session without end for a very long time. There was no emotional reaction to that, it was just experience.

The contrast between the realization of mere seconds passed in 'the zone', with the sensation of 'forever in the meditation' did cause a few tears. I'm not sure why.

I feel like it would take me three days to fully describe what those few seconds felt like.

Just before ending the session, I felt some kind of whole body sensation that I'm having trouble describing accurately. It seemed like pressure from inside pushing out, or maybe an outside pressure pushing in (like atmospheric), or maybe a sensation of a temporary denseness, I don't know...none of that really seems adequate, it was just an experience, and I was able to observe it without any concern. It passed, without having lasted more than a minute.

Then I was completely awake and ready for the rest of the day. Driving home, I found myself thinking about the relationships between consciousness that is blended with physicality, the fear of loss, subjectivity and how it's all connected to physicality below 5th density.

That sounds like some ideas that may be on the right track, but I'm not sure. I'm still working on integrating this experience.

Apologies for the lengthy post. I just wanted to get that out. Thanks for your toleration!
 
Hi everyone! I'd like to post some of my experiences and observations regarding the breathing program since all of your posts have been really helpful in assimilating my own experiences as well as being a motivation for me to emerge from my usual solitary contemplation and engage in meaningful, beneficial exchange with real live people. I find it difficult to post--a combination of social anxiety and procrastination which I think is related--but I am working on that. The beauty of this program is that it helps me to maintain a sense of efficacy in my daily life despite the "healing crisis" that I think I've been experiencing for a little over a week. Besides emotional experiences, I was sick with a head, chest, and sinus cold for a miserable 3 days which probably had nothing to do with the climate in Austin, Texas, where I live. Since, I have still been coughing up a lot of crap, and I get the impression that my lungs are clearing out so that I can better "give and receive." Drinking water and soaking in the tub seemed to help which makes since when detoxing.

Though I am legally blind, can usually see well with glasses or contacts. However, for a few days I have had issues focusing my eyes though I have been on the computer less than usual, lately. I noticed during the meditation that my eyes hold a lot of tension and tend to want to open up as soon as I relax. I have tried putting a pillow case over my eyes an that helps a bit, but I also began trying to "see" from the back of my head, and from the area of the pineal gland and noticed that it helped a bit. Monday, I tried Laura's suggestion to "grab" the lights and grow them as well as focusing directly on the energy in the third eye and will continue to practice this since I regularly see swirling purple and pearl lights--although yesterday I noticed a reddish color. I think knowing that it is okay to focus visually on something when my eyes are closed will help. Has anyone had similar experiences?

After doing the full program about 4 times and the daily meditations, I also noticed that I was more emotionally volatile--very weepy, sensitive, and irritable. I have experienced this before while menstruating, but never to the extent that I wasn't able to suppress it enough to seem "normal and stable." I had mastered the "art" of suppressing anger so much I wasn't aware it was there until recently! I am usually the peacemaker, but lately I have been so flooded with emotions that I'm not sure whether I can't or just don't care to mask it. I gotta say, this is hard. I feel totally vulnerable knowing that my emotions are so obvious, and worst of all am being forced to confront that I can be the "irrational, overly emotional girl." Ouch. Strangely, though, I know this is good because it is my ego that is smarting over this slap in the face! Or perhaps these are growing pains? I also consider that it could be attack. However, I can't help but be excited because something is happening!

Speaking of attack, recently my boyfriend was driving us to the DMV very early in the morning, and long story short, I was feeling anxious and irritable, and decided to do the Prayer of the Soul at a particularly long light. Directly after going through it and after getting up to about 45 mph on the highway access road, a long white van turned in front of us quite leisurely as we were coming up on his intersection. I did not notice him until my boyfriend slammed on the brakes because I was gazing off somewhere. When I looked up, I was sure we'd hit him since he continued to cross our path without accelerating much as though. Somehow, and I cannot say by how much or how it was possible considering our speed and the van's length and relative distance, we came to an abrupt stop just as his back end cleared and kept on as though nothing ever happened, as though he never noticed us at all! Luckily, we were the only ones around and did not cause a pile up. I don't know if it was divine intervention or even an attack per se, just that near-accident somehow made me feel safer which was a welcome feeling since my dog died a few days before and I was confronted with my lack of control over the Universe and the reality that all the desire and Reiki and prayer in the world will not change something into what it should not or cannot be. I must say, though, the grieving process was very cleansing and I believe the "connection" with the forum and the program helped me to accept my dog's death. I look forward to further development and will remain open to the possibilities.

Much thanks to Laura, the Cassies, and the team for this program. Laura, your voice soothes my soul.

By the way, I have been doing the program on Mondays and Thursdays, though in the late morning or early afternoon, and it makes me happy to know I am working with others. Thanks to EVERYONE for their commitment and happy healing to all.


(modified for "readability." :D )
 
I thought I was done with cleansing.
Boy was I wrong. Seems what I described before was just a cleansing prelude.
The crescendo started few days ago as I was struck by the weirdest "flu" ever. Two days of 39,5 degrees on average, adamant not to take any flu medicines I finally emerged on the other side. I know its theoretically possible for virus to affect digestive and respiratory systems in the same time but those are some very dangerous viruses and it does look like I will live. That is, if I manage to replenish all the fluids I lost since Sunday.

I know sometimes cigar is just a cigar, maybe this is nothing more then flu but it certainly feels different.
As I was reading Laura's posting in the latest session I couldnt help thinking wow what a timing. Didn't want to say anything as I thought it might be heavy on self importance.
In any case I felt something was off all last week, it was more subtle in my case then in Laura's and it dragged until I was stricken big time on Sunday morning.


Very strange indeed FWIW
 
As I did the program on monday I zoned out during the meditation part. When I came to, it had been maybe a couple of seconds.
The strange part was that I could almost not hear the recording on my mp3 player, it was put in the background as an intense white noise
of sorts which was really loud overwhelmed me. This was like a TV set without any channel on it on max volume in my ears.
It took a couple of minutes before this went away.
Has anyone else experienced this?
 
It seems that a few of us are experiencing similar debilitating effects after the meditation. I myself did the the full program yesterday evening (Monday) and I felt it went very well. My ability to stay focused on the movement of the Diaphragm throughout the Beatha part of the session is certainly improving and I felt very refreshed, physically energised and sharp in mind after completing the meditation, despite having had a gruelling 12 hour day looking after my 3 year old.

However, today I have spent almost the entire day in bed, with what I can only describe as a crippling tiredness and depression and indeed feeling as having been 'run over by a truck' from which I am only now recovering. Whilst I am aware that these symptoms can be partially or wholly attributed to the cleansing process, I intuitively sense that these are manifestations of some form of psychic attack. I had exactly the same distressing symptoms after doing the last full meditation last Monday which lasted about two days.

I was initially going to post this in the Eriu Eolas Forum but am reluctant to detract from the positive experiences and progress which the forum members are making. However, in the light of experiences reported by myself and others, would it be possible Laura for you to ask the Cassiopaean's in one of the next sessions if

a. these debilitating symptoms which the forum members are experiencing are manifestations of some form of attack? And

b. are there any practical solutions/methods apart from the meditation and prayer themselves which we can utilise in order to counter such debilitation?

Of course, if any of the forum members have any objections to these questions, please say. I appreciate that my eagerness to discover the source of these symptoms may not be shared by everyone here and some may not want to know.

Thanks for your consideration in advance :)
 
I have done the program a few times so far, not consistently due to my crazy work schedule.

I have not spaced out... actually I tend to seem quite focused on Laura's voice guiding the timing. I think I am too focused on things in general, I rarely space out and not notice things (unless I was drinking a lot but that last happened a long time ago).

The bioenergetic breathing gives me tingly feelings, much like Topper's charger breath that I tried years ago.

What exactly are the times (GMT?) that we should practice the breathing on Monday and Thursday? I would like to try to coordinate the exercise with the group.
 
I don't think their are any designated times, other than on the evenings if you have the free time. We're all spread all over the globe, so I think it will be difficult to try to coordinate a specific time for everyone to do it.
 
Divide by Zero said:
What exactly are the times (GMT?) that we should practice the breathing on Monday and Thursday? I would like to try to coordinate the exercise with the group.

Pinkerton said:
I don't think their are any designated times, other than on the evenings if you have the free time. We're all spread all over the globe, so I think it will be difficult to try to coordinate a specific time for everyone to do it.

What I find interesting about this is that we are creating a wave of people who are taking light baths and contacting their higher self, and this wave moves around the world more or less in time with the sunset. Which seems to be related to this:

Session July 16 said:
Q: (S) What did they mean by "add power"? (L) Do it again. (P) Is it a special day of the week? (L) Well, they said once a month, dark of the moon... Oh, you want to know if it's once a week, then which day?

A: Moon-day.

[…]

Q: (DD) Is there a time on Mondays to do the dance, like sunrise or sunset?

A: Better as sun sets. In fact you can employ a little sungazing.
 
mada85 said:
What I find interesting about this is that we are creating a wave of people who are taking light baths and contacting their higher self, and this wave moves around the world more or less in time with the sunset. Which seems to be related to this:

To me it brings to mind a heartbeat. The pulse being sent around the world once/twice a week or whatever. Just a thought.
 
mada85 said:
Aragorn said:
Since I started doing the breathing program in the evening I've also had mornings when I feel like a truck had drove over me, even though I slept pretty well.

RedFox said:
The one thing I will say is that I do seem extremal tired (physically) from doing this the last few weeks.

truth seeker said:
Same here. At first I had pretty sound sleep and still do sometimes but then I felt rested in the mornings. Now it's as though someone has beaten me up!

This is really interesting. In the past few days I have developed quite some tension in my shoulders, and a general lack of interest in just about everything. I’m taking rhus tox for some joint pain in my left shoulder, something that is quite unusual for me (the joint pain that is). I hate my job, and generally I’m uninterested in things – actually I should say that there is a part of me which is fed up and bored, but there is another part which does the Eiriu-Eolas regularly and will not give up just because the recalcitrant part is having a reaction. Doing the program regularly makes it much easier to not identify with the 'bad' part and to continue taking the 'medicine'. Strangely enough, this is similar to the way Bach Flower remedies work.

I think that what we are experiencing is very likely a healing crisis, only it is happening on more than just the physical level.

RedFox said:
A note however, is that it may be your body is the current line of communication......so perhaps try interpretting it? This has been working for me.

If the body is feeling bruised, tired or sore, perhaps that is a physical reflection of what it feels like to the soul to be embodied.

Thanks for saying this. That gives me something to think about.

RflctnOfU said:
I finally feel as though the 'beginning' of the search is coming to and 'end' - now it's time to start walking the path. At the risk of sounding cheesy, I LOVE (definitely not the run-of-the-mill variety - very whole) you guys. I think/feel/know we have quite an adventure ahead of us.

Kris

Thanks for saying that RflctnOfU! I'm really glad I found this group too!

Evolutionary1 said:
Hi everyone! I'd like to post some of my experiences and observations regarding the breathing program since all of your posts have been really helpful in assimilating my own experiences as well as being a motivation for me to emerge from my usual solitary contemplation and engage in meaningful, beneficial exchange with real live people. I find it difficult to post--a combination of social anxiety and procrastination which I think is related--but I am working on that. The beauty of this program is that it helps me to maintain a sense of efficacy in my daily life despite the "healing crisis" that I think I've been experiencing for a little over a week. Besides emotional experiences, I was sick with a head, chest, and sinus cold for a miserable 3 days which probably had nothing to do with the climate in Austin, Texas, where I live. Since, I have still been coughing up a lot of crap, and I get the impression that my lungs are clearing out so that I can better "give and receive." Drinking water and soaking in the tub seemed to help which makes since when detoxing.

I have occassional attacks of social anxiety which I'm also working through. I eventually came to the current conclusion that that in itself could be a form of attack because I really don't know how it started... We're all here for you!

Evolutionary1 said:
Though I am legally blind, can usually see well with glasses or contacts. However, for a few days I have had issues focusing my eyes though I have been on the computer less than usual, lately. I noticed during the meditation that my eyes hold a lot of tension and tend to want to open up as soon as I relax. I have tried putting a pillow case over my eyes an that helps a bit, but I also began trying to "see" from the back of my head, and from the area of the pineal gland and noticed that it helped a bit. Monday, I tried Laura's suggestion to "grab" the lights and grow them as well as focusing directly on the energy in the third eye and will continue to practice this since I regularly see swirling purple and pearl lights--although yesterday I noticed a reddish color. I think knowing that it is okay to focus visually on something when my eyes are closed will help. Has anyone had similar experiences?

I've had some swirling colors while my eyes are closed. I'm not sure what you mean by "seeing" from the back the head though. I'd appreciate it if you could explain.

Evolutionary1 said:
After doing the full program about 4 times and the daily meditations, I also noticed that I was more emotionally volatile--very weepy, sensitive, and irritable. I have experienced this before while menstruating, but never to the extent that I wasn't able to suppress it enough to seem "normal and stable." I had mastered the "art" of suppressing anger so much I wasn't aware it was there until recently! I am usually the peacemaker, but lately I have been so flooded with emotions that I'm not sure whether I can't or just don't care to mask it. I gotta say, this is hard. I feel totally vulnerable knowing that my emotions are so obvious, and worst of all am being forced to confront that I can be the "irrational, overly emotional girl." Ouch. Strangely, though, I know this is good because it is my ego that is smarting over this slap in the face! Or perhaps these are growing pains? I also consider that it could be attack. However, I can't help but be excited because something is happening!

I used to have crying jags in my 20's and thought that was over with. Now since doing the breathing/meditation, I'm getting them a little. It's not full out but feels more residual. What's also happening is that there's a kind of lingering sadness that maybe borders on compassion.

Evolutionary1 said:
Speaking of attack, recently my boyfriend was driving us to the DMV very early in the morning, and long story short, I was feeling anxious and irritable, and decided to do the Prayer of the Soul at a particularly long light. Directly after going through it and after getting up to about 45 mph on the highway access road, a long white van turned in front of us quite leisurely as we were coming up on his intersection. I did not notice him until my boyfriend slammed on the brakes because I was gazing off somewhere. When I looked up, I was sure we'd hit him since he continued to cross our path without accelerating much as though. Somehow, and I cannot say by how much or how it was possible considering our speed and the van's length and relative distance, we came to an abrupt stop just as his back end cleared and kept on as though nothing ever happened, as though he never noticed us at all! Luckily, we were the only ones around and did not cause a pile up. I don't know if it was divine intervention or even an attack per se, just that near-accident somehow made me feel safer which was a welcome feeling since my dog died a few days before and I was confronted with my lack of control over the Universe and the reality that all the desire and Reiki and prayer in the world will not change something into what it should not or cannot be. I must say, though, the grieving process was very cleansing and I believe the "connection" with the forum and the program helped me to accept my dog's death. I look forward to further development and will remain open to the possibilities.

I'm so sorry to hear about your dog.

I've hear variations of what you experienced with the white van. It doesn't have to be a white van or a vehicle for that matter but there is usually something "off" about the situation. In my opinion, I think they are a form of attack or warning since they seem geared to get someone's attention. What I do now is to just take it slower and pay attention.
 
Just a quick note to say thanks for peoples thoughts on 'feeling run over by a truck', they helped no end.
I think just knowing that it wasn't just me helped the most, which makes me realise I may have been putting to much focus (fixating) onto it rather than just accepting it as part of the overall process and letting it be. I think in a way (and I've done this many times in the past) I was 'fighting' the tiredness, hence it made it worse.....to accept it as normal/ok is the way to go it seems.
I'm still as tired but feel able to cope with it, and as such have more energy free to deal with it osit.

I've been doing the prayer of the soul almost every night as well as the full program on Mondays and Thursdays. One thing I did discover (I went over the full threads yesterday) was I had made a slight mistake with the prayer of the soul, in that I was breathing in/out through my nose, not in through my nose and out through my mouth...oops
Doing it last night (under my own steam rather than following the mp3) I did zone out a few times....which was very weird (as there was no mp3 to bring me back). But I put this down to being too tired. I definitely need to get more sleep at the moment. It may be my body requires more good food/additional supplementation too to help with the process, but this is just a theory at the moment.

fwiw it seems best not to focus to much on any aspects of experiences you may or may not have, simply just doing it as consistently and as curiously (with an open and non anticipating mind) as possible is the most important thing oist :) *edit* thats not to say don't post them mind, because I'm really enjoying sharing the experiences as well as the process :cool2:
 
Pai said:
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However, today I have spent almost the entire day in bed, with what I can only describe as a crippling tiredness and depression and indeed feeling as having been 'run over by a truck' from which I am only now recovering. Whilst I am aware that these symptoms can be partially or wholly attributed to the cleansing process, I intuitively sense that these are manifestations of some form of psychic attack. I had exactly the same distressing symptoms after doing the last full meditation last Monday which lasted about two days.

Your "intuitive sense" may, in fact, be the "predator's mind" working hard to prevent the continuation of the program. Don't expect emotional cleansing to be a picnic for everyone. Perhaps I'll make a recording describing my own experiences as it proceeded over the course of several years.

I had a look at your previous posts and notice that you joined the forum just a few weeks ago though you wrote that you have read a great deal of the introductory material and are familiar with our work in a general way. Okay, fine. But have you really read much in the forum here, particularly those areas concerned with physical detoxing? The reason I ask is because of this post:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3742.msg94878#msg94878

You will see that I have written a response to it today. (I hadn't noted it before, but now, in the present context, it strikes me as important.) http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3742.msg97130#msg97130

I am concerned that you are possibly in a physically toxic state (maybe not, maybe your diet is perfect and you take all the correct supplements to assist in detoxing?) and if that is the case, the physical detox reaction of improved breathing will be rather burdensome as some of those on the forum will attest. It's called a Herxheimer reaction.

wikipedia said:
The Herxheimer reaction (also known as Jarisch-Herxheimer or Herx) occurs when large quantities of toxins released into the body as bacteria (typically Spirochetal bacteria) die, due to antibiotic treatment or rapid detoxification.

Typically the death of these bacteria and the associated release of endotoxins occurs faster than the body can remove the toxins via the natural detoxification process performed by the kidneys and liver. It is manifested by fever, chills, headache, myalgia (muscle pain), and exacerbation of skin lesions. Duration in syphilis is normally only a few hours but can be much longer, up to months or years, for other diseases. The intensity of the reaction reflects the intensity of inflammation present.


Pai said:
I was initially going to post this in the Eriu Eolas Forum but am reluctant to detract from the positive experiences and progress which the forum members are making. However, in the light of experiences reported by myself and others, would it be possible Laura for you to ask the Cassiopaean's in one of the next sessions if

a. these debilitating symptoms which the forum members are experiencing are manifestations of some form of attack? And

b. are there any practical solutions/methods apart from the meditation and prayer themselves which we can utilise in order to counter such debilitation?

Of course, if any of the forum members have any objections to these questions, please say. I appreciate that my eagerness to discover the source of these symptoms may not be shared by everyone here and some may not want to know.

Thanks for your consideration in advance :)

I don't think we even need to ask the Cs. I think this one is pretty obvious:

a) who needs attack when detox reactions will make you sick?

b) slow down the process to reduce the detox (Herxheimer) reaction

Keep in mind that this breathing program ALSO detoxes physically, not just emotionally. When you kick start the vagus nerve and start putting things back in motion, after years of the physical cesspool backing up, it can be like a hole in the dyke that gets big very fast!

So, for those of you having physical symptoms, it can very well be a detox reaction and you may need to re-read some of the Diet and Health threads and reconsider your diet/supplement options.

For those of you who have suffered from chronic fatigue or Fibromyalgia, we have just read a very interesting book: "Treating and Beating Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome" by Rodger Murphree. Highly recommended as an adjunct text to Mark Hyman's "The UltraMind Solution".

As a side note: the husband of an ill woman wrote to me recently describing all her symptoms of "attack" and "demonic infestation" and so on and so forth. It sounded to me like she was suffering from candidiasis and leaky gut leading to Chronic Fatigue. So, I wrote back with dietary and supplement suggestions which the man implemented for her right away. He just recently wrote again to say that all her "attack" symptoms have cleared up (including some poltergeist type stuff!) and they are very happy to know that it was NOT demons.

So, let's take care of the basics before we start assuming scary things about what goes on in our bodies and around us.
 
I want to also add that you should all remember what I wrote previously about pouring new wine into old bottles. The vessel needs to be prepared and purified. Toxins and other "invaders" in the physical system resonate to negative energies (not a surprise!) When you start pouring positive energies in, there will be a conflict if you have not previously done some serious physical detoxing work!!!

If you are taking "light baths" and the physical body is very "dirty" with toxicity, yeah, there is gonna be a reaction!

What actually takes place during the "light baths" is that the generating of this penetrating light cleanses away all that would make you unfit for the seating of the soul. This takes a varying time according to what your life (even past life) experiences have been. In some cases where purity of thought and action have prevailed this does not take long, in others the process is slower and more painful. But it is cumulative even if you do it more slowly and, as I already said, at some point, without warning, the opening of the "heart center" (the merging of the lower emotional center with the higher emotional center) will occur. That, in itself, is QUITE an experience! At that point, you will experience the timeless, limitless force of your true nature and you will know fully and completely what the inclination and purpose of your life. What is more, you will know how to implement it because the higher intellectual center will be accessible and the guidance of this timeless, limitless knowing will be available to you.
 
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