Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

cs21

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I want to report that I noted that anytime I do the program, even if I have a lot of time without doing it, I feel a bit depressed. That used to happened before when I did the program with consistent frequency, but now I am kind of more sensitive. I remembered that the recommendation was skip the baha part, but two months between meditations is a lot time to being so sensitive. :huh:
Hello
I pratice EE since 2011 (I did a week end in Moissac when EE wa. I praticed it in a regular basis over several years then I read some advice that made me realize that I was doing wrong especially for Beatha (I forced breathing and then felt like lots of tinglings in the hands, the belly and sometimes in the legs
 

cs21

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Sorry !
I want to report that I noted that anytime I do the program, even if I have a lot of time without doing it, I feel a bit depressed. That used to happened before when I did the program with consistent frequency, but now I am kind of more sensitive. I remembered that the recommendation was skip the baha part, but two months between meditations is a lot time to being so sensitive. :huh:
Hello
I pratice EE since 2011 (I did a week end in Moissac when EE was "authorized". I praticed it in a regular basis over several years then I read some advices that made me realize that I was doing wrong especially for Beatha (I forced breathing and then felt like lots of tinglings in the hands, the belly and sometimes in the legs). I experienced EE outside for the last summer and it was a good and an interesting experience in the way that I did some interesting dreams : the main dream was totally linked with the place I did EE. The dream took place during the second world war and it was about military planes that crashed in that place precisely (Ardeche in France).

By the way, I noticed from (independently of the dream) that some feelings (probably linked to my proper life) went back to the surface immediatly after the programm (in the hours followed it) : angry (this feeling lasted a while), depression, joy etc... Maybe the feeling last as long it is necessary ?

And a little fun thing in addition of that : I was seeing EVERY single day, when I was driving, on a long period of time, at least a number plate beginning by EE on a car...
 

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Sorry !


Hello
I pratice EE since 2011 (I did a week end in Moissac when EE was "authorized". I praticed it in a regular basis over several years then I read some advices that made me realize that I was doing wrong especially for Beatha (I forced breathing and then felt like lots of tinglings in the hands, the belly and sometimes in the legs). I experienced EE outside for the last summer and it was a good and an interesting experience in the way that I did some interesting dreams : the main dream was totally linked with the place I did EE. The dream took place during the second world war and it was about military planes that crashed in that place precisely (Ardeche in France).

By the way, I noticed from (independently of the dream) that some feelings (probably linked to my proper life) went back to the surface immediatly after the programm (in the hours followed it) : angry (this feeling lasted a while), depression, joy etc... Maybe the feeling last as long it is necessary ?

And a little fun thing in addition of that : I was seeing EVERY single day, when I was driving, on a long period of time, at least a number plate beginning by EE on a car...
Glad you realized that you were forcing your breathing in the breatha. Hopefully, you have corrected it. ;-)

About the feelings that are continuing to come up. If they are too overwhelming, you may want to stop the beatha for a while as the beatha brings up suppressed emotions faster than the pipe breathing (which also brings up suppressed emotions, only more slowly). You can always continue doing the beatha when you think you are ready for it. You can even start the beatha again slowly by doing only the long breaths, then continue on to the moderate breaths and, then, when ready, add the faster breaths. Or any combination of them; such as doing just the longer and moderate breaths, but not doing the faster ones.
 

cs21

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Glad you realized that you were forcing your breathing in the breatha. Hopefully, you have corrected it. ;-)

About the feelings that are continuing to come up. If they are too overwhelming, you may want to stop the beatha for a while as the beatha brings up suppressed emotions faster than the pipe breathing (which also brings up suppressed emotions, only more slowly). You can always continue doing the beatha when you think you are ready for it. You can even start the beatha again slowly by doing only the long breaths, then continue on to the moderate breaths and, then, when ready, add the faster breaths. Or any combination of them; such as doing just the longer and moderate breaths, but not doing the faster ones.
Thank you Nienna, yes I corrected it and it was much better indeed.
Concerning your good advice, I did it indeed intuitively and stopped the beatha for a while. I didn't know the emotionnal effect difference between the pipe breathing and the beatha, nor for the different possibilities of combination, thank you
 

Gawan

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Thank you cassiopaea for Eiriu Eolas.
I do it daily and results are indeed... cumulative.
Hi Hitsu, don't forget that you should not overdo the bioenergetic/beatha breathing part (maximum two times a week). The other parts can be done daily without any harm. The full program is done on Mondays and Thursday, but whatever days suit you most.
 
I decided to include the Baha portion tonight and it resulted in a strange and semi-distressing experience.

During Baha my hands started to tingle intensely up to the point of my forearms. Toward the end of the Baha section it felt as if blood circulation was being restricted as my thumbs started to close shut into my hands.

As I moved into the Meditation, I was lying there with a blanket over me and started to get REALLY hot. I attributed this to the blankets and my space heater. So I removed the blanket and turned the space heater off and turned the fan on high to help me cool down.

This did nothing.

I just got hotter and hotter as I moved through the meditation even though I don't think I was physically hot.

It got to a point to where I couldn't take the heat or the intense feeling of it anymore and panicked. I had to get up immediately and go straight into a shower to cool off and calm down. It also took a little while for my hands to return to normal.

I guess I'm wondering if I have some kind of energy blockages in my arms to my hands, or if there's something wrong with me physically for my thumbs to contract as they did. Also want to note that I was breathing gently during the Baha portion of it. Perhaps it is just too much for me right now.
 

Yas

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Hi Andrew,

It's hard to tell without actually knowing how you breathe... not only in terms of gentleness but also in terms of speed and and the parts of the body you use for breathing. Do you feel difficulty when doing any other part of the program? Do you feel as if you're somewhat stiff and it's hard to get the air flowing?

What you describe sounds like a hyperventilation episode:

Hyperventilation is a condition in which you start to breathe very fast. Healthy breathing occurs with a healthy balance between breathing in oxygen and breathing out carbon dioxide. You upset this balance when you hyperventilate by exhaling more than you inhale. This causes a rapid reduction in carbon dioxide in the body.

Low carbon dioxide levels lead to narrowing of the blood vessels that supply blood to the brain. This reduction in blood supply to the brain leads to symptoms like lightheadedness and tingling in the fingers. Severe hyperventilation can lead to loss of consciousness.
From my experience, when blood pressure changes rapidly, one can experiment surges of temperature, or the opposite as well, that is, low body temperature or cold sensation.

I'd say that there's a possibility that it is some sort of release as well, but then, I guess it would be better to continue without the Beatha for a while, doing the other portions of the program which would also help you release what needs to be released in a more gradual way and would also train your breathing so that the Beatha portion is easier in case it is hyperventilation.
 
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