Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

This is great! I came to this thread to add that the Arachnophobia (just spiders not other arachnids) I have had my entire life, has nearly all but disappeared. I've had vivid dreams the past few months of spiders being really awesome creatures, dreaming of beautiful webs, and spiders talking to me.
:/
Now I can sit within inches of a spider web or spider and feel fine. Arachnophobia was so pronounced in my life that if
I even saw a spider in a room (I would ask someone else to remove it -not kill it - just put it outside) it would take me hours
to go back into that room and feel comfortable.

Now I've been studying the different species so I can identify the truly dangerous ones, and get to know them on a more
healthy level. Before, I wouldn't have been able to even look at a picture of any type of spider. I can also escort them back
outside if they are not an 'indoor/web' type spider, which I leave be.

I've tried curing myself of this phobia by using self help books, forcing myself to 'face my fears' etc. etc. But this was a very
unexpected awesome side effect of EE!
:)
 
msasa said:
We had small discussion about similar thing way back... ;)


Thanks for finding that msasa - Yeah, now I do remember this remarkably similar discussion. :)


msasa said:
In my case there are two distinct feelings of this energy going around/residing in the body.
One is like a heavy fluid (almost like something solid) and the other is very airy one.

Heavy fluid is a great way to describe it - it's almost solid but not solid.

msasa said:
The airy one is nowadays associated almost always with lateral (especially head area, above the ears) and back of my body (back of the shoulders, nape, spine). When the feeling started 3.5 years ago, it first appeared in solar plexus and navel/belly area (on front central body axis).
My current hypothesis is that this feeling represents energy leaving/entering physical body. :/

The heavy fluid thing seems to relate more to the feeling you're experiencing.
It stays in the body and moves through it or just sits in one spot some time. I feel it laterally from head to my feet; mostly on my right side (in chest, under the ribs, around kidneys, in groins, calfs); in addition with the areas where I feel the airy feeling; and also on the central axis from third eye area (rarely) to rump (in front and back side as well; mostly felt in heart and solar plexus area). The lateral areas sometimes tend to connect to make an 8 movement through body, while along the central axis the energy always "goes" straight.

I remember reading here something from Bringers of the Dawn about chakras that sounded like it could be related with these feelings, but unfortunately I don't have time now to search for it. :-[

Yes, and there was also something in the Ra Material about these sensations.
 
Since we're talking about energy sensations, I remember myself having one during yesterday's session. I was doing beatha and kind of dozing off so I had hypnogogic imagery and thoughts. I was visualizing my mind as the inside of a pumpkin, but gutted out, and had the thought of it being cleaned in a circular motion. These thoughts and images were very vague when I came to, as with all hypnogogic thoughts. But while I had that image and the words, I felt an energy rush in my body, which seemed more concentrated on the left side. Then I came to.
 
manitoban said:
Hi mkrnhr
I found the relevant quotes from lawofone.info about colours, shapes and feelings during meditation
15.12 Questioner: How does an individual go about balancing himself? What is the first step?
Ra: I am Ra. The steps are only one; that is, an understanding of the energy centers which make up the mind/body/spirit complex. This understanding may be briefly summarized as follows. The first balancing is of the Malkuth, or Earth, vibratory energy complex, called the red-ray complex. An understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental. The next energy complex, which may be blocked is the emotional, or personal complex, also known as the orange-ray complex. This blockage will often demonstrate itself as personal eccentricities or distortions with regard to self-conscious understanding or acceptance of self.

The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego. It is the yellow-ray or solar plexus center. Blockages in this center will often manifest as distortions toward power manipulation and other social behaviors concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex. Those with blockages in these first three energy centers, or nexi, will have continuing difficulties in ability to further their seeking of the Law of One.

The center of heart, or green-ray, is the center from which third-density beings may springboard, shall we say, to infinite intelligence. Blockages in this area may manifest as difficulties in expressing what you may call universal love or compassion.

The blue-ray center of energy streaming is the center which, for the first time, is outgoing as well as inpouring. Those blocked in this area may have difficulty in grasping the spirit/mind complexes of its own entity and further difficulty in expressing such understandings of self. Entities blocked in this area may have difficulties in accepting communication from other mind/body/spirit complexes.

The next center is the pineal or indigo-ray center. Those blocked in this center may experience a lessening of the influx of intelligent energy due to manifestations which appear as unworthiness. This is that of which you spoke. As you can see, this is but one of many distortions due to the several points of energy influx into the mind/body/spirit complex. The indigo-ray balancing is quite central to the type of work which revolves about the spirit complex, which has its influx then into the transformation or transmutation of third density to fourth density, it being the energy center receiving the least distorted outpourings of love/light from intelligent energy and also the potential for the key to the gateway of intelligent infinity.

The remaining center of energy influx is simply the total expression of the entity’s vibratory complex of mind, body, and spirit. It is as it will be, “balanced” or “imbalanced” has no meaning at this energy level, for it gives and takes in its own balance. Whatever the distortion may be, it cannot be manipulated as can the others and, therefore, has no particular importance in viewing the balancing of an entity.

39.10 Questioner: I sense that there is fruitful ground for investigation of our development in tracing the evolution of the bodily energy centers because these seven centers seem to be linked with all of the sevens that I spoke of previously, and these seem to be central to our own development. Could you describe the process of evolution of these bodily energy centers starting with the most primitive form of life to have them?
Ra: I am Ra. This material has been covered previously to some extent. Therefore, we shall not repeat information upon which rays dwell in first and second density and the wherefores of this, but rather attempt to enlarge upon this information.

The basic pivotal points of each level of development; that is, each density beyond second, may be seen to be as follows: Firstly, the basic energy of so-called red ray. This ray may be understood to be the basic strengthening ray for each density. It shall never be condescended to as less important or productive of spiritual evolution, for it is the foundation ray.

The next foundation ray is yellow. This is the great steppingstone ray. At this ray the mind/body potentiates to its fullest balance. The strong red/orange/yellow triad springboards the entity into the center ray of green. This is again a basic ray but not a primary ray.

This is the resource for spiritual work. When green ray has been activated we find the third primary ray being able to begin potentiation. This is the first true spiritual ray in that all transfers are of an integrated mind/body/spirit nature. The blue ray seats the learnings/teachings of the spirit in each density within the mind/body complex animating the whole, communicating to others this entirety of being-ness.

The indigo ray, though precious, is that ray worked upon only by the adept, as you would call it. It is the gateway to intelligent infinity bringing intelligent energy through. This is the energy center worked upon in those teachings considered inner, hidden, and occult, for this ray is that which is infinite in its possibilities. As you are aware, those who heal, teach, and work for the Creator in any way which may be seen to be both radiant and balanced are those activities which are indigo ray.

As you are aware, the violet ray is constant and does not figure into a discussion of the functions of ray activation in that it is the mark, the register, the identity, the true vibration of an entity.

39.12 Questioner: Is this also true of all of the other rays?
Ra: I am Ra. We shall answer briefly. You may question further at another working.

The negative ray pattern is the red/orange/yellow moving directly to the blue, this only being used in order to contact intelligent infinity.

In positively oriented entities the configuration is even, crystallinely clear, and of the seven ray description.

Are there any short queries before we leave this instrument?

41.24 Questioner: Why are the red, yellow, and blue energy centers called primary centers? I think from previous material I understand this, but is there some tracing of these primary colors back to intelligent infinity more profound than what you have given us?
Ra: I am Ra. We cannot say what may seem profound to an entity. The red, yellow, and blue rays are primary because they signify activity of a primary nature.

Red ray is the foundation; orange ray the movement towards yellow ray which is the ray of self-awareness and interaction. Green ray is the movement through various experiences of energy exchanges having to do with compassion and all-forgiving love to the primary blue ray which is the first ray of radiation of self regardless of any actions from another.

The green-ray entity is ineffectual in the face of blockage from other-selves. The blue ray entity is a co-Creator. This may perhaps simply be a restatement of previous activity, but if you consider the function of the Logos as representative of the Infinite Creator in effectuating the knowing of the Creator by the Creator you may perhaps see the steps by which this may be accomplished.


50.10 Questioner: Each of us feels, in meditation, energy upon the head in various places. Could you tell me what this is, what it signifies, and what the various places in which we feel it signify?
Ra: I am Ra. Forgetting the pyramid will be of aid to you in the study of these experiences. The in-streamings of energy are felt by the energy centers which need, and are prepared for, activation. Thus those who feel the stimulation at violet-ray level are getting just that. Those feeling it within the forehead between the brows are experiencing indigo ray and so forth. Those experiencing tingling and visual images are having some blockage in the energy center being activated and thus the electrical body spreads this energy out and its effect is diffused.

Those not truly sincerely requesting this energy may yet feel it if the entities are not well-trained in psychic defense. Those not desirous of experiencing these sensations and activations and changes even upon the subconscious level will not experience anything due to their abilities at defense and armoring against change.

51.8 Questioner: What do you mean by crystal structures?
Ra: I am Ra. Each of the energy centers of the physical complex may be seen to have a distinctive crystalline structure in the more developed entity. Each will be somewhat different just as in your world no two snowflakes are alike. However, each is regular. The red energy center often is in the shape of the spoked wheel. The orange energy center in the flower shape containing three petals.

The yellow center again in a rounded shape, many faceted, as a star.

The green energy center sometimes called the lotus-shape, the number of points of crystalline structure dependent upon the strength of this center.

The blue energy center capable of having perhaps one hundred facets and capable of great flashing brilliance.

The indigo center a more quiet center which has the basic triangular or three-petalled shape in many, although some adepts who have balanced the lower energies may create more faceted forms.

The violet energy center is the least variable and is sometimes described in your philosophy as thousand-petalled as it is the sum of the mind/body/spirit complex distortion totality.

This may, or may not be helpful.

And, like Trevrizent wrote, this may, or may not be helpful.

For me, it was very helpful.

I tended to look at these sensations as some kind of wounds in auric field or holes in defence system; mainly because of somebody/something attacking me, but more recently, as my knowledge and comprehension of diet, stress and other related factors has grown, I see them as consequences of my "ignorance" (in the first place), i.e unhealthy diet, programs/buffers, sacred cows...

Before, I was very easily irritated by these sensations (especially that heavy feeling around my right kidney area) and could get very angry, but EE (and knowledge input off course) changed my reaction; nowadays I just observe them and take notice when and where they happened, which area of the body was affected and what kind of feeling it was, what mental/emotional state I was in...
Something like exploring and getting to know my system/machine a little bit better. ;)


In relation to excerpt from Ra Material, these sensations could represent some kind of blockages in energy centers (physical, but also in emotional and mental centers).
For example, when reaching critical level of toxicity I tend to clean my system through my skin. I also very often had stomach problems. And truth seeker reported similar thing:

truth seeker said:
msasa said:
Been slowly making dietary changes since December, but haven't seen big difference in overall system responce until started green clay detox treatment 3 weeks ago. Now I understand how emotional and mental detox is just not enough, but physical part of detoxification has to be done simultaneously.

Just wanted to say congrats on the progress you've been making! I've also found out (the hard way) that making some changes in diet can also greatly reduce the instances where the EE does the detoxing for you. If no dietary changes are made (and you're eating the standard poor diet of American culture at least) there's usually going to be some hell to pay. In my case, it was some form of stomach flu and also skin problems.

and traditionally that kind of physical problems relate to problems in green and yellow ray centers functioning.
It could be something to look into.
 
Alana said:
Infiniteness said:
I do hear a faint hhhh, but with other noises too :huh:(maybe because of the allergies that I have) .

This is very possible. I find that if i have phlegm in my throat while breathing there are more noises than just the hhhhhhh ;)

I said:
Yes I do feel that I am doing the exhalation correctly. I did what you have told me to do and I do hear a very faint hhhh sound, yes what you have said is clear :D. I can upload some sound clips onto youtube and post it here, so you can here how I sound, if I can do that?

You can upload the youtube videos if you want, but it doesn't appear necessary at the moment imo. From what i read it sounds that you are doing the breathing correctly. But if you want to be 100% sure, upload :)

I said:
I am also working on my diet added many vitamins and minerals, but still need to weed out some of the toxic food that I still take in. Thanks for sharing the joke. :) :flowers:

You are welcomed :) Keep in mind that by weeding that toxic food out of your diet, not only your body will feel better (you could say bye bye to your allergies) but also your mind will feel less foggy, and it will improve your mood. :clap:

Thank you for all your help :), I tried to upload the sound clip but had problems, if I can get it up then Ill post.

Update: Ive been getting more emotional releases and when I meditate I have this purplish whitish cloud that takes over the darkness, when I have my eyes closed.Nothing else much new, but Ill keep on going.
 
I have been doing the EE program for about 6 months. At the beginning I used to zone out a lot. Now It I just zone out during some sessions. Overall I have been feeling better. I have problems like everyone but I have started to see these as challenges more than real problems.
I have been trying to meditate at least for 20 minutes everyday. I am happy to report that I do not feel anxiety for staying alone with my thoughts. I have started to get to know me. Life seems deeper somehow. I have tried to write some short stories.
 
Thanks so much msasa :flowers: I had forgotten that I posted before in regards to the sensations. I have improved my diet so I don't think that's the cause.

msasa said:
...I see them as consequences of my "ignorance" (in the first place),...
This is a very interesting way of looking at it. I'll really consider this. Like you, I also don't get upset about it, but really do see it as a type of adventure.

As for the skin problems, that cleared up months ago, but yes, it does feel as though blockages are being cleared. Outgoing and inpouring describes it quite well.

Ra said:
The in-streamings of energy are felt by the energy centers which need, and are prepared for, activation. Thus those who feel the stimulation at violet-ray level are getting just that. Those feeling it within the forehead between the brows are experiencing indigo ray and so forth. Those experiencing tingling and visual images are having some blockage in the energy center being activated and thus the electrical body spreads this energy out and its effect is diffused.

Those not truly sincerely requesting this energy may yet feel it if the entities are not well-trained in psychic defense. Those not desirous of experiencing these sensations and activations and changes even upon the subconscious level will not experience anything due to their abilities at defense and armoring against change.

I do believe that I requested it. This may sound ridiculous but when we were first starting EE last year, I did ask DCM that if my permission was needed to help in any way (meaning that they needed someone to decide of their own free will), I was giving it. This may be the reason.

Thanks so much again for the quotes. I believe I read this prior to doing EE but had not made the connection. :)
 
Just reporting my latest EE experiences.

Finally, after my seasonal allergy ended around mid May I was able to continue with EE program after more then month of abstinence. Reintroduction was almost hard as starting it almost a year now, especially Bioenergetic part. I wasn't able to endure whole baha part without lying on my back around mid section, although prior to my allergy outbreak I was able to do whole program without physical discomfort. Tingling in my hands was back just like in first few breathing sessions. I was zoning out during both baha and POTS parts. But most curious thing was how, during baha part, something inside me wasn't pleased with it and all sorts of itching and thoughts of ending baha breathing arouse with one or the other reason. I was literally fighting with something to continue. It seems that during this period of abstinence I've let this inner filth to entrench itself more deeply and it managed during this break to recuperate and hold itself more firmly and it's like pulling teeth without analgetics out. I'm still fallowing Mon. - Thur. sessions and considering adding in one more day to catch up and to smoke this thing out.

Secondly, I have noticed some kind of whitish "smoke" around me. Rising from my legs for example. And generally perceiving it in my surroundings during breathing exercises. Don't know what it is, but keep watching and reporting further.
 
Regulattor said:
Just reporting my latest EE experiences.

Finally, after my seasonal allergy ended around mid May I was able to continue with EE program after more then month of abstinence.

If you have seasonal allergies, you will be interested in this thread:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18076.0
 
Speaking of impressions and body sensations during EE, I have been feeling pain in my forehead very often during EE. It is a pain that doesn't stay and linger. Perhaps because I react by concentrating on the pain to make it go away, and it always does when I do so.

Another impression I've been getting is related to the ball type feeling I mentioned having in my chest during EE months ago. At the time, this ball felt as if something was sort of stuck in my chest, and burning. Recently I started to have again sensations in my chest, but of a different nature. Perhaps similar to the airy feeling msasa described. It feels as if a mint balm is spreading inside my chest.


pirataloko said:
Hi everybody.

Today i have been receiving the Reiki Usui lvl 1. There are some exercises i have to practise over myself and i have read in this forum about some "incompatibility" between the EE program and the Reiki, but I'm not sure what does it means.

Can i go on with the EE program and doing the Reiki exercises? Or i must practice only one of them?

Thank you.

Waiting for yours comments:

Antonio

Hi pirataloko, as far as I understand, I think the only incompatibility would rest in practicing both EE and Reiki at the same time. I'm not sure if this is what you are referring to, but shortly after the program was released, if memory doesn't fail, the question arose of whether one could practice EE while simultaneously doing other techniques. Well, EE is a program that stands on its own, and it can probably bring greater benefits if practiced on its own, without adding or combining it with other techniques.

I suppose that as far as you do your practice of reiki independently from EE, there should be no harm. Others might have a different perspective though.

A few things have also been mentioned regarding reiki and the importance of training with a master from a proper lineage, you might have come across one of those links, hence your question. If that is the case, here is a link that might be of interest: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3713
 
In terms of E-E breathing meditation, I’ve experienced similar experiences to those reported last week, nothing much happened mind-bodywise. And, another week of progress at night, as an after effect of reciting PotS in bed before going to sleep, I notice a change when I get up to go to the bathroom – wet eyes. Change is happening at a deep level.

Hi pirataloko,
since starting doing E-E, almost a year ago, I have stopped doing Reiki exercises, and other change process; as Gertrudes says, EE stands on its own, and provides more than enough benefits, in my opinion, well at least it seems as if it is for me.

This may help, or not.
 
Hi everyone,

I did the full program on thursday, which I haven't done in a while, only doing the Breathing and POTS at night.

The day after I started to feel really physically ill, as if I had a flu, with all my body and muscles aching and a very bad headache.
I took some Vitamin C and NAC because I thought it would help in the long run.

I went for a nap because I felt exhausted and started to doze on and off and had dreamlike thoughts, a bit like when you have a strong fever.
It felt like my thoughts were circling around my head in an obsessive manner, what struck me is that I was feeling how my thoughts had a real weight and consequences which could be just because I was sick and feverish.

Today I am still very exhausted and the symptoms are still there (body aching and headache)

So what could have triggered this so strongly ?
The program never had such a strong effect so maybe it has nothing to do with it ?

I came out of nearly two months of working a lot even during the week-ends so maybe it had to take its toll and the EE program was too strong for me at that point ?

Could it be because of an incomplete detoxing ?
 
Tigersoap said:
I came out of nearly two months of working a lot even during the week-ends so maybe it had to take its toll and the EE program was too strong for me at that point ?

Could it be because of an incomplete detoxing ?

Hi Tigersoap,

Just a thought, but sometimes it's happened to me that I've gotten run down from too much work, but I don't get sick until the day I finally stop working and rest. That's when I'd get sick. The virus or sickness was already there but it's like the body waits until there is the time and space to heal before the symptoms begin. Maybe the full EE gave your body the signal that it's now time to heal?

This might be totally off, and maybe it is incomplete detox or something else entirely, but fwiw.
 
Regulattor said:
Just reporting my latest EE experiences.

Secondly, I have noticed some kind of whitish "smoke" around me. Rising from my legs for example. And generally perceiving it in my surroundings during breathing exercises. Don't know what it is, but keep watching and reporting further.

Hello Regulattor,
I too have noticed this whitish "smoke" as well, but mine seems to be located around my chest area during EE.
I also recall seeing this same type of wavy, whitish, smoke, very faintly around my hands. It usually happens at night when I'm in bed. I find it very curious. Now, I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me but I could swear to you, I see sparks ignite ever so often within this wavy white smoke. Weird huh?
Which than, brings to mind an odd occurrences of lately. It seems more often than not, I would be in a grocery store and every time I touch something of metal I get a shock. I mean it was getting to a point where I was giving great attention NOT to touch anything metal, even the cart I cover up my hands with my sleeves. It's more annoying than anything else. That ever happen to you?
However, there was this one time, where I went into this mystical ornament type store, hoping to find some crystal (when the mood hits me i go searching for crystals... strange I know) but I found one, it was about 2 inches long and about 1/2 inch thick, it was beautiful, the tip was mostly crystal clear with interesting inclusion in it. I asked the clerk that was the one I wanted in the showcase. So he brought it out and handed to me and I looked over it with glee, but as I was handing it back to him, the clerk yipes as if he got a shock and than, he looks at me with suspicion and says to me, "Did you do that?". I was surprised myself in what just happened, let alone think that I had something to do with it, so I simply replied "it wasn't me!" After that, he took my money and wrapped the crystal, rather quickly if I might add and said nothing more, not even a "thank you".
I thought no more about it but it's one of those things you really don't forget about, you know?
Just sharing my experiences with you.
okiron
 
manitoban said:
Just a thought, but sometimes it's happened to me that I've gotten run down from too much work, but I don't get sick until the day I finally stop working and rest. That's when I'd get sick. The virus or sickness was already there but it's like the body waits until there is the time and space to heal before the symptoms begin. Maybe the full EE gave your body the signal that it's now time to heal?
This might be totally off, and maybe it is incomplete detox or something else entirely, but fwiw.

Thanks Manitoban.
I think I have to take care of myself better than I do and listen to my body when I need rest and also pay attention to my emotions because it's all linked imho.
I was wondering how come despite the EE program and trying to really eat better I was still able to be run down by stress, maybe there is something I don't do properly and I have to figure out what exactly.
 
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