Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Gaby]

And for all with support and similar feelings occurring, I thought I would add these quotes:

Q: (L) Alright. First of all, A*** {a friend doing the breathing/meditation program} is having a really hard time. She's going through some kind of - close to - an emotional breakdown sort of thing. Of course, she is concerned that she's just losing her mind. Other than what I've said to her, is there anything to add information-wise about what she's going through?

A: Her experience is similar to yours due to her rigid stubbornness.

Q: (L) Okay, so she's rigidly stubborn similar to the way I'm rigidly stubborn. Because of that, she's going to suffer as much in the breakdown as I did. Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) I see.

A: If one crystallizes on the wrong foundation it means much more suffering.

Q: (L) Are you saying that she crystallized on some foundation, and I did too?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Were they similar foundations?

A: No

Q: (L) But just that it was a crystallization of some sort?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And what caused or what was the nature of this crystallization?

A: Necessity for survival of trauma.

Q: (L) Well, there are some other people who have suffered certainly much more trauma, or at least equal trauma, who I didn't notice going through any kind of similar really outrageous suffering.

A: They didn't crystallize, they split.

Q: (L) So one difference is that some people crystallize to survive, and some people split to survive. Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) And I guess if you split to survive, all you have to do is bring yourself together and merge, and therefore it is somewhat easier than somebody who has crystallized and has to break everything down. Is that it?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So that's one of the reasons for some of the different experiences among the people in the forum for example. Is that the case?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Maybe people who split, reintegration happens over a longer period of time, where they slowly, slowly, slowly put themselves back together, so the suffering is in little bits at a time. Whereas people who crystallize hold it off until all at once something has to break down... (L) Yeah, people who crystallize resist probably more. I think that was the case with me...

A: Yes

Q: (L) So, okay... And there's some people who are having very mild experiences, and there are some people who aren't having much experience at all. What is going on with people who are not having much in the way of experience?

A: They are fusing smaller segments a little at a time. Tell them to be patient and persistent. At some point they will see their own progress in retrospect. It is like walking up a gentle mountain slope.

Q: (L) So in other words, they're the lucky ones!

A: Depends on the makeup and potential for strong emotions.

I was thinking recently about this session and was wondering if this crystallization Vs split process to survive had to do as well with the types of men described in Gnosis. I was thinking that intellectual types will be prone to split and type 2/emotional people will be prone to crystallize, although there might be other factors that I'm not considering.

 

[StrangeCaptain]

Had an odd experience last night doing POTS... There was quite a bit of internal noise, and per my habit, I was just observing the noise and continuing to breathe and recite the seed internally. Suddenly, the noise was getting SO heavy and suddenly it just popped like a balloon. I went from observing massive mental noise to deep meditative calm in the blink of an eye. Then my body was suffused with warmth especially in the hands.

By the way, my windows are covered for having a completely dark room when I sleep. The first few times I did POTS in the pitch black it was scary because it felt like the darkness had weight that was pushing down on my eyes. I have never been afraid of the dark before. A couple times I panicked and stopped the mediation to turn on the lights. It went away after a couple of weeks.

 

[Aiming]

Suddenly, the noise was getting SO heavy and suddenly it just popped like a balloon. I went from observing massive mental noise to deep meditative calm in the blink of an eye. Then my body was suffused with warmth especially in the hands.

Sounds like a breakthrough there. That must've been a really joyous thing to experience.

Thanks for posting the session, Daniel. It helped to see the bigger picture again.

I was thinking recently about this session and was wondering if this crystallization Vs split process to survive had to do as well with the types of men described in Gnosis. I was thinking that intellectual types will be prone to split and type 2/emotional people will be prone to crystallize, although there might be other factors that I'm not considering.

That's an interesting thought. I'm type 2 and always thought I split, but I'm not so sure anymore.

In my last full session during the BaHa portion I had piercing pains in my right hemisphere. Nothing unusual apart from that, except that I've realized that generally I have to concentrate on cleaning my system of the candida. It's become pretty bad. I can even feel the inflammation of my brain. I guess one factor for that is that I've until now not really networked about my candida problem, thus it's easy to 'forget'. It explains a whole lot of other things, too, for example having difficulty with thinking clearly, as well as an upsurge of the negative introject. Don't know why it takes me so long to learn this one, and why I keep going back to eating fruit, although I know that it's bad for my system.

 

[Gawan]

Yesterday I had the time to do a full EE session again. :D

The pipebreathing part had been very gentle and relaxing. During Beatha, tears and many memories from past events occurred. Sometimes it has the feeling of looking at these situations from outside and still be a part of it. So overall I really enjoyed it. :)

Thanks for the quotes Daniel!

I was thinking recently about this session and was wondering if this crystallization Vs split process to survive had to do as well with the types of men described in Gnosis. I was thinking that intellectual types will be prone to split and type 2/emotional people will be prone to crystallize, although there might be other factors that I'm not considering.

These are some interesting points imo.
What I wondered regards the quotes Daniel posted, cause I'm having and had lots of emotional happenings during beatha, that this could be also a more gentle path, cause if these emotions would erupt all in one session this would maybe too much for me, so that every session bits and pieces are set free.

After the session I had a kind of -strange- thing happening to me. I prepared myself to go into the city, opened the front door and then the elevator button lit up and showed that the elevator should go down. As I walked down the stairs I wondered why I heard no noise from downstairs, if someone was waiting. As I arrived the bottom floor nobody was standing there and also the elevator door didn't open. So I pushed that button the door opened but nobody was in. Well, just strange because in the staircase every sound can be heard. Maybe a technical glitch I don't know.

 

[Galaxia2002]

Hi DanielS

I had thought that I had maybe released this anger, but this last week I've been having a lot of emotional difficulties, as if I can barely deal with the mundane things of life. It culminated with me wanting to give up, throw up the towel in the Work, that the negative introject and programs are too strong to overcome. Finally, yesterday I was just totally in the dumps and my family asked what was wrong, offering assistance, but I said nothing and went upstairs. I started balling my eyes out because I can't even, to this day properly communicate my own feelings to another human being. I've been so stuck in selfish, self-centered ways, and I asked DCM why I was like this. Trying to break down these walls inside.

I’ve had similar feelings this week, midway through Monday, to try to get over it I lounged in a chair, listening to Vivaldi, and I was overcome with tears streaming down my face. So, something is happening at a deep level. And, that night I awoke in the middle of the night and had great difficulty getting back to sleep (guilt, not trusting the process of life). I’ve also suffered mild constipation (holding on to old ideas), and increased incontinence at night (emotional stress, wanting things sorted immediately). All, in all, it’s about impatience and letting go - for me.

Today, it's back, but it doesn't feel as strong as it was this last while. More so I felt, and still feel sad. But not a depressed sad, just, sadness. Like I wan't to cry more, but I'm not going to try and force it, hopefully. Just let whatever happens, happen naturally.

Hang in there, DanielS, we can get through this, and as you say - ‘Just let whatever happens, happen naturally.’ – as an approach to follow, even if it does stretch me to the limits.

Hi Trevrizent, I have also started to cry while listening some songs , a cry that springs from the deepest inside my plexus, the music evokes I don't know what and I don't know why I am crying. In one of those releases, I found myself apologizing for things of the past, to whoever would have hurt. I have a doubt: it is supposed that I should to know why I am crying.? In the normal Work one need to be aware where a feeling comes from, as part of the observation process, but I can't perceive that when I feel what I said above. I can't see if it is something from my childhood.

I am more sensitive, I read that cholera deaths in Haiti rose up 4000, and nobody cares, that feeling made me cry as a child. This never could happend before.

Today I couldn't sleep well, I had a superficial sleep, although I don't have any problem with sleep deeply. I felt that myself was settling something in my brain, when I woke up, a kind of intuition told me that I was improving my operative system

 

[monotonic]

Had an odd experience last night doing POTS... There was quite a bit of internal noise, and per my habit, I was just observing the noise and continuing to breathe and recite the seed internally. Suddenly, the noise was getting SO heavy and suddenly it just popped like a balloon. I went from observing massive mental noise to deep meditative calm in the blink of an eye. Then my body was suffused with warmth especially in the hands.

This has happened to me a lot, a few years ago. I was not getting very much sleep, and I also found it hard to fall asleep. So I would sit up and just experiment with meditating and ways to hold my focus. Not having a lot of sleep, a lot of chatter would bubble up through the noise floor, just chatter. Just voices of thing I'd heard or read or thought about or remembered during the day. Many times I was so exhausted I would simply sit there and relax and listen to the chatter and think about simple things that came through, putting 2+2 together and making some connections (usually seemed pretty arbitrary, just what bubbled up through at the time, and not emotionally charged). And then like you said, it would drop suddenly. I would feel a creepy crawly sensation all over and then it would dissipate and then total silence. At this point my thinking would be very clear, with no sense of urgency of any kind whatsoever, just calmness and thinking power to put towards anything. I would feel much less tired, sometimes as if I had just woken up. I still needed rest of course, but maybe it's a "catch your breath after exhaustion" thing.

I noticed later on that this actually happened during a sort of fall-asleep moment. I would temporarily forget about everything but just before I totally went out, I would come back again as if I had suddenly forgot about everything. So it seems to me as if it occurs when the brain dips into a certain meditative or brainwave state. Right before it happens I'm not really thinking about anything, it feels as if I have "finished" thinking and there is nothing more to think about, and at that time I am not aware enough to decide on something new to think about, and slip away...

Maybe it's a processing thing? I have had variations of this exact thing happen but what I've described is how it happens most of the time. Experiences of this sort only happen when I'm low on sleep.

 

[loreta]

I just saw the video with the 3 young beautiful girls and this will help me very much. Also I want to thank you for everything. Your explanation in the Introduction were clear and very interesting. The Pipe Breathing is very good explained. Your introduction and all the CD are excellent and I have the impression that you are talking to me! :)

Thanks again. The world is beautiful with people like you.

 

[Cosmos]

Quote from Laura about the latest developments with EE (from http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=20628.315):

There are a few interesting developments with our EE program that will be bringing some significant testimonials our way is that we have been invited by a doctor's organization in the Gulf of Mexico area to send a team to teach detox and EE to those suffering there. We have recently been sponsored by city hall to hold classes in a nearby community and we will be looking to teach as many people as possible to be able to keep these classes going as we move on to other communities. They are well received, diet and detox is discussed, and we will be having cooking classes also so that people can learn how to cook gluten and dairy free.

We also have a big presentation organized in Spain that will be attended by a couple of the world's most famous football players. This is due to our work with sufferers of Sanfilippo's disease which afflicts the child of a famous football player. Great improvements in the condition have been achieved with our program. And finally, today, in fact, at this very moment, a meeting is underway to set up a schedule for teaching EE, diet and detox to soldiers of the French army and their families. We are developing a special program for them to deal with PTSD for returning soldiers. We also have an arrangement to teach the program to members of the Police Nationale!!!! Further activities involve teaching the program in Paris to a selected group of academics and media people with the idea of making a TV presentation on France 2, a program for the Gendarmerie, and more. In short, we are carrying a pretty heavy schedule of activities already, and the more support we get at this crucial time, the better.

 

[OrangeScorpion]

3 weeks I've been practicing EE, in my last session I felt punctures in the chest, I think it was in the Beatha part but I'm not sure. Should I worry or is it normal?

Since I started with EE, something strange happens while I sleep. When I wake up in the morning I have my right leg drenched in sweat. From foot to waist. Only the right leg!!! The rest of the body isn't wet. At least this happened to me 7 nights and wanted to know what it can mean.

Thanks in advance.

 

[LQB]

3 weeks I've been practicing EE, in my last session I felt punctures in the chest, I think it was in the Beatha part but I'm not sure. Should I worry or is it normal?

Since I started with EE, something strange happens while I sleep. When I wake up in the morning I have my right leg drenched in sweat. From foot to waist. Only the right leg!!! The rest of the body isn't wet. At least this happened to me 7 nights and wanted to know what it can mean.

Thanks in advance.

Hi OS,

I noticed in a few past sessions deep pressure in the chest after (vigorous) Ba Ha round breathing. Kind a like what you are describing. Haven't experienced it lately. It seemed to peak up in a few sessions and then disappeared. No experience with the sweats though.

 

[Aiming]

Since I started with EE, something strange happens while I sleep. When I wake up in the morning I have my right leg drenched in sweat. From foot to waist. Only the right leg!!! The rest of the body isn't wet. At least this happened to me 7 nights and wanted to know what it can mean.

If you have just started EE I think it could simply be a detox symtpom. Why it is only your right leg sure is strange. I found this article that could be of some help:

from _http://chetday.com/spencedetox.html
Skin Cleansing

Detoxification should include some type of skin cleansing, because our skin it one of our best eliminative organs. Heavy metals are actually released through the skin's pores when we sweat. Sauna baths and steam rooms are great for removing toxins from the skin and regenerating one's health and energy. It has been documented that our skin's sweat glands when combined can perform as much detoxification as one (or both) kidneys. Therefore, it is very important to support our skin for detoxification to be maximal. If our kidneys are damaged, then helping the skin will help the kidneys ... indirectly, but effectively.

Good skin care is in order, if one's health is to benefit, also. Using chemicalized skin care products is not wise, even though they are cheaper. These chemicals may be absorbed into our circulation and provide more "toxins" for our liver to deal with. We are not made out of cast iron, and even the chemicals in our soaps and shampoos will make a difference with our health. Most people do not "see" the ill effects of these subtle chemicals, because their liver is able to metabolize them. But, individuals who are environmentally toxic will see a great change in their health when using natural soaps and shampoos. We should take their advice and use only natural skin care products also.

Cleansing our skin is rather simple. First, we need to bathe daily using natural soaps. Then we need to care for the skin by using only natural oils and products of natural origin. Even the clothes we wear can make a big difference in our health. Synthetic fibers do not absorb sweat (toxins), while natural fibers, like cotton, will absorb toxins. Dry skin brushing helps in removing the outer dead skin layers and keeps the pores open. Another good method of skin brushing is with vigorous toweling off after bathing. Towel roughly until the skin is slightly red. Change towels often because they will contain toxins.

Good skin care also requires good nutrition.[ii] Since our skin is mainly fat, we need high quality fats and oil from natural sources to give our skin health. Butter and olive oil are two excellent natural oils, which keep the skin in good condition. As always, the fats/oils should be natural ... only.

 

[Learner]

First off, although two weeks later, thanks to Legolas and Trevrizent about the infos regarding water and water filter systems! Much appreciated! :)
I decided to swap from tea to water from our current filter system again, based on the infos of the thread about Water. It feels okay now. It made sense to me, that the minerals the body can use best are connected with food - the body draws them from plants f.ex. and can better utilize them rather than those from other sources like mineral or tap water, where the minerals are dissolved out of rocks. And minerals can also be supplemented additionally: currently I take magnesium plus vitamin B complex as well as Omega 3 1000 fishoil capsules. For more supplementation I simply lack the money currently. I also got a hold of my drinking issues: I make sure to have the 1 liter jug full of filtered water next to me at least two times a day.

To update about EE, I did continue to do full sessions twice a week and some PB plus POTS on the other days. It seems, lessons emerge quicker now. For example, since I feel more vital again I also meet more people and have to juggle more things - or so it seems to me. Time management is another lesson that needs to be learnt.
What is positive, my anxiety and lethargy are still kept at bay pretty much and confidence continues, though in waves: sometimes it is better, at other times not so good. But that state can't be compared with the black hole I was in at the last quarter of 2010. And the memory about it keeps me in doing regular EE - this is also some good descipline and helps me to develop discipline in other fields of life as well.

I have to admit, I didn't do the last two sessions on Thursday and Monday, but respectively the day after as I didn't manage the other way. So also today: While doing Pipe Breathing, the feeling of sadness did emerge deep from my inside, that feeling didn't vanish with Warrior's Breath and continued right into the BAHA portion, where Laura's soothing voice saying the slow Ba-Ha, and this additionally accumulated to my emotions and I cried a bit. But in the course of Ba-Ha thoughts were wandering a bit (this is not so easy to get a hold on), and also during POTS. After POTS I fell a bit kind of asleep, and after it was finished, I suddenly woke up again and it seemed to me as if not much time had passed. I don't know, if this was a zoning out or not - however I felt pretty relaxed and calm and this state is continuing at present.

EDIT: Clarity

 

[celtic]

I have been doing the EE regularly for the past 3 weeks or so. I have a lot of ringing in my ears lately while doing the BA HA and yesterday I notice a speed in time. This happened while I was doing the regular breathing laying down the it seems that the prayer of the soul went by a lot faster than it should.

Also while doing the regurlar breathing some old memories that I haven't thought of in years came to my mind. Some of the memories were even detailed it was like I was taping in some memory bank or drive. My memory has improved a little and my attention span grew I just wanted to share with you my progress with the EE.

 

[Turgon]

I have been doing the EE regularly for the past 3 weeks or so. I have a lot of ringing in my ears lately while doing the BA HA and yesterday I notice a speed in time. This happened while I was doing the regular breathing laying down the it seems that the prayer of the soul went by a lot faster than it should.

Also while doing the regurlar breathing some old memories that I haven't thought of in years came to my mind. Some of the memories were even detailed it was like I was taping in some memory bank or drive. My memory has improved a little and my attention span grew I just wanted to share with you my progress with the EE.

That's great to hear! Keep at it. The irregularities in time are normal. You probably zoned out during POTS. Sometimes a few second feels longer, other times 20 minutes goes by in a blink of an eye.

 

[Learner]

I have been doing the EE regularly for the past 3 weeks or so. I have a lot of ringing in my ears lately while doing the BA HA and yesterday I notice a speed in time. This happened while I was doing the regular breathing laying down the it seems that the prayer of the soul went by a lot faster than it should.

Also while doing the regurlar breathing some old memories that I haven't thought of in years came to my mind. Some of the memories were even detailed it was like I was taping in some memory bank or drive. My memory has improved a little and my attention span grew I just wanted to share with you my progress with the EE.

That's great to hear! Keep at it. The irregularities in time are normal. You probably zoned out during POTS. Sometimes a few second feels longer, other times 20 minutes goes by in a blink of an eye.

I second DanielS. Good to read, EE is helping you! It is really powerful, isn't it? It provides us with what is needed in order to cope better with life and reality, be it through improvement of memory and attention, more energy etc. Keep on the good work! :)