Elon Musk: Tech Genius! Green Warrior! Biz King! Good Oligarch?

[Cosmos]

I wouldn’t be surprised if people such as Musk, Gates and Bezos have been (quite literally) mind programmed from an early age. That’s my wild conjecture for some of those people, and I would propose that Musks mind program keeps failing (because there is some soul and backbone to fight back and get over the programming) in certain respects and might continue to increase in failing, as Musk learns more. And the PTB might be concerned and confused about it.

I can’t judge the validity of Musks claims, but it is certainly interesting that he described his father as a VERY evil person. Exactly the kind if evil father, you would think of, that would have no problems in using his son as a Guinea pig for „CIA“ mind programmers:

Inside Elon Musk's tumultuous relationship with his father

amp.nine.com.au

Why Elon Musk Says His Dad Is ‘Evil’ — Details On Errol Musk’s Affair With Stepdaughter & Manslaughter Charges

Elon Musk wants to be nothing like his father.

www.yourtango.com

The Truth About Elon Musk's Relationship With His Father - Grunge

Elon Musk described his childhood as "miserable," claiming that his dad was capable of carrying out "evil" deeds.

www.grunge.com

Elon Musk's Dad Had a Baby With His Own Stepdaughter — How Disturbing!

Elon Musk's estranged father, Errol Musk, has fathered a child with his stepdaughter Jana Bezuidenhout, who's 42 years younger than him.

www.distractify.com

Some quotes from the articles above:

At age eight, when his parents divorced, Elon chose to live with his father, while his two brothers stayed with his mum –– a choice he later said was "not a good idea".

His dad, Errol, was an engineer, and supposedly the youngest person to get a professional engineer's qualification in South Africa. He worked in emerald mining and, at one point, they had so much money that he couldn't close their safe. But money can't buy happiness.

"He was such a terrible human being," Musk told Rolling Stone. "My dad will have a carefully thought-out plan of evil. He will plan evil."

"You have no idea about how bad. Almost every crime you can possibly think of, he has done. Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done. It’s so terrible, you can’t believe it."

Errol Musk fathered a child with his stepdaughter.
72-year-old Errol Musk fathered a child with the then 30-year-old daughter of his ex-wife, Jana Bezuidenhout.

Errol Musk said that the child was the result of a one-off mistake, saying, “It happened one evening when Jana's boyfriend threw her out of the house and she had slept over at my house. You have to understand – I've been single for 20 years and I'm just a man who makes mistakes.”

Bezuidenhout was four years old when her mother married Errol. They were married for 18 years.

The couple also shares a daughter, who is Bezuidenhout's half-sister and is pictured above.

The man also seems to believe that the relationship wasn’t incestuous because of the fact that he had been separated from his step-daughter’s mother for many years.

If you have to clarify that something technically wasn’t incestuous, you’ve probably done something horrendous.

Errol Musk shot three people and was charged with manslaughter.​

The elder Musk remains somewhat of an enigma, and Elon Musk has said that his words are not to be trusted, which makes it all the more concerning that the man admitted to shooting and killing three people.

Und According to Errol himself, he never threatened or hurt anyone… Except for the time that he shot and killed three people who he says broke into his home with weapons.

He was later arrested on manslaughter charges but it was all dropped on the basis of self-defense.

It seems that Elon Musk’s father is a bit of a sore spot for the man, and no doubt the seemingly erroneous suggestions that he owned an emerald mine are difficult for him to see.

Like him or hate him, at least Elon Musk doesn’t seem to have turned out as badly as his father.

Interestingly, there is no Wikipedia page on his father. I wouldn’t be surprised if what Musks says about his father is true and much is still hidden. I wouldn’t be surprised either that some forces don’t want too much light on Musks father and his connections.

 

[hollenoaea]

I think the "neural link", that he probably already implanted in his brain at some level, needs "cash cleaning" from all the glitches collected on a chip processor by compulsive tweeting on the toilet.

A week before he also announced that he might be killed under the "mysterious" circumstances, alluding to some "Russian activities against those who are advocating free speech", but no one really liked that a lot, and the world didn't get in the fire as ELon maight be killed, haha ... so the number of followers of that click bite wasn't expected, so he throws to the westerners a new click bite a carrot.

But speaking about the Starlink satellites he provided to Zelenski, hm they are probably holding some data that maybe are not in tune with the image of a planetary hero Elon wants to be + and more and more he looks like a transhumanist puppet and not self-made superman, so yes maybe he is even mind-controlled and trained to be Elon the Hero, from his youth. The whole happy mama MAYA M family is kind of a glittery front-page media project.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

I love the creepy music and out of context clips they've used to try and make that case. It's pretty obvious that JP was joking. I guess whoever created that video failed to understand that Elon Musk and Fox Mulder are actually part of the same multidimensional consciousness.

I was wrong to put that video (laughs) in the original interview without those elements, it is different. Beyond that comment about Elon, what made me remember is that we have witnessed how precisely very remarkable, very intelligent people can also go astray and lose their way. How they can easily fall perhaps as a product of some internal "fluctuation" in which sometimes they are aligned with the opposite of the nature they have demonstrated. There are those who seem to be carrying an internal struggle against what is trying to "convert" them and they contradict themselves and the clarity they had before is not the same. Their internal fluctuations are reflected in the sudden change of the description they make of reality through the work they do. When I read that Jordan Peterson believes that Putin has a dream of annexing Ukraine... well..... perhaps another one that the devil will get him at some point. Drastic changes that are after having gone through a period of delicate health. It is a pattern that catches my attention.

 

[iamthatis]

I wouldn’t be surprised if people such as Musk, Gates and Bezos have been (quite literally) mind programmed from an early age.

We don't have any information from the C's about Bezos and Musk, but there's this:

Q: (Joe) How did Bill Gates get into all of this? How does a computer nerd become a maniacal world-saver through vaccines?

A: Greenbaum victim.

Q: (Andromeda) I didn't expect that.

(L) So he has been set up to play his role, but he's really just a throw-away pawn?

A: Yes. He does not realize how expendable he is.

Q: (L) So he's out there like being a lightning rod, attracting all the hatred and all the opprobrium...

(Joe) And he genuinely believes that he's doing a good thing for the planet because he's deluded.

(L) And when the new boss comes in, he'll be tossed aside.

A: Yes

That’s my wild conjecture for some of those people, and I would propose that Musks mind program keeps failing (because there is some soul and backbone to fight back and get over the programming) in certain respects and might continue to increase in failing, as Musk learns more. And the PTB might be concerned and confused about it.

I was thinking about Elon Musk recently, and had a similar thought to yours - and the dark romance novels popped into my head.

(L) Okay, I have a question. As you must know, I have expanded my reading experience into some different types of books. [laughter]

(Artemis) Why are they laughing?

(L) Okay, well, the reason I expanded was because it came up in the suggestions of books on Amazon. It was called The Russian Billionaire. I had seen all these other ones, I was never interested in any of that sort of thing. Modern day romance novels didn't really attract me. The question in my mind was WHY was the title The Russian Billionaire? Is it promoting something about Russia or Russians? How is this going to be treated in this book? What's going on here? Why is somebody writing about a Russian billionaire in a political climate where Russia is the evildoer of all deeds? So, I got this book on Kindle and I read it. I was really shocked that the author referenced Putin in a positive way. What was even more shocking was that the book started talking about transhumanism and the singularity and different things like that in such a clear way. Even though it wasn't explicit, it was implicit that the USA was kind of like the guilty party in this whole plot to take over humanity. So I was really surprised. But then when I got to the end, I realized there were other books that were connected to this book since it makes reference to those. There were people in this book that were made reference to that obviously appeared in other books. I wanted the complete picture, so I got the previous books and the subsequent books and read the whole set. I started thinking that this was really bizarre. Here's this author basically telling things like they are. But it's scattered through the story. I read a few others of that ilk and I realized that most of them are just pornography. They might not be hardcore, but they’re kind of pornographic because mainly they arrange some sort of story that is supposed to support the sexual episodes that are described in loving detail. In any event, I spread my net a little wider, and there are many that I'd never recommend to anybody. So, I want to know: Is this some kind of propaganda effort by somebody? Is Russia behind this propaganda effort to...?

(Joe) Don't say that on social media, Laura! They'll all believe you!

(Pierre) Russia or someone who wants to promote the truth.

(L) Well, I mean... Is this some kind of effort to... I dunno. What IS going on here?

A: Personal mission by a number of enlightened individuals.

Q: (L) So there are some people who know the score... Didn't you find out that this Georgia Le Carre woman only started writing these books in 2014? And she's written so many of them.

(Joe) Well, you know people churn them out. But that's what I said: I said those books that you're reading is the kind of stuff YOU would put in a romance novel if you were writing one.

(L) Yes, if I wrote a romance novel, I would try to put that in.

(Joe) Yeah. You're an enlightened individual, and there are others out there who...

(L) So, somebody's on a mission to try to... Well, the thing is now... Some of these other books that were not really directly related to this topic. They bring up social issues, and they bring up all kinds of situations that really, really need attention. But what I noticed about some of them... This Georgia Le Carre, she's not too bad. But there's so many that have such HORRIBLE grammar and syntax. They use malapropisms just repeatedly and continuously. They don't have control of their verbs in particular. Like sit, sat, sitting, stands, standing, stood. That sort of thing. They'll say, "He was stood by the door" when it should be, "He was STANDING by the door."

(Artemis) He was stood-standing! [laughter]

(Joe) That's British English.

(Niall) Northern England.

(L) So that could just be an artifact of there…

(Joe) Yeah!

(L) Okay, so that would explain that, but then there are malapropisms that are really outrageous... Like using the word 'abstruse' instead of 'obtuse'. That just absolutely does not fit. So it's as though they've heard a word, and they think they know what the word is, but they don't really know what the word is, but they write it anyway because it sounds fancy. It's like the way Violette used to write. And I said to her that if you don't know what the word means... And she would say, "Well, people will know what I'm saying!" That was her answer to me, and it just kinda blew my mind. The educational level of some of the authors of these novels is just deplorably low...

(Joe) But to have that imagination...

(L) Yes, they have the imagination to tell a story. If you can edit out in your head as you're reading, you can actually enjoy the story if you don't let it bother you too much. But I'm just flabbergasted at all the books being put out there in this genre that exhibit the authors’ ignorance so blatantly. Most of them don’t even appear to do any research at all.

(Artemis) It's the price you pay: You're really good at one thing, or you're really good at another.

(L) But I started wondering if they were using some kind of software to write these stories... Except the stories have creative elements.

(Joe) I'm familiar with those colloquialisms of different dialects of British English. That's common! There are millions of people who talk like that every day to each other.

(Pierre) Do you know more about this Georgia author?

(L) No, I don't know anything more. I just know Joe looked into her and she started writing and wrote like 50 books since then. 2014 remember is when that blow-up happened over there in Ukraine, and I said that was the beginning of the end.

(Andromeda) Maybe she just saw what was going on and she also had this thing for writing romances.

(L) Well, the thing is that what they're doing is they're using this romance novel thing to get under the radar.

(Pierre) Oh yeah, it's a perfect cover.

(Joe) If that's your way of communicating your thoughts and ideas, then you're gonna put it in. Like I said, in the same way you would if you wrote a romance novel.

(L) Well, lemme ask this: Despite the fact that these books are a little more than slightly racy (to me they're EXTREMELY racy), is it still okay for people to read them? I felt a little iffy about even recommending it except for the fact that it had all this stuff about computers, transhumanism, the evil empire, the secret rulers of the world and so forth.

A: Those with good mental and spiritual hygiene will be fine and even benefited by this reading.

Q: (Joe) The problem is that people who aren't like that, it might give them ideas and they'll go out and look for a Russian don...

A: Warnings to the wise.

Q: (L) In other words, give warnings and the wise will take the warnings. Those who don't take the warnings, well... What can you do?

(Artemis) Something to remember is that romance and sex is how you give people information.

A: Note how similar in dynamics the books in question are to your beloved regency stories!

Q: (L) Well, that's a good point. Some of these stories, I mean... In the Regency stories, the bad guy gets killed in a duel or sword fight. There's almost like vigilante justice effected by the hero of the story. In these more modern ones, they set it as mafia dons or something and they just blow the evil doers away! It's just the modern version of it.

(Joe) A modern more graphic twist on the Regency Romance novels.

(L) Except for a few that were really excessive, they all seem to be about true love, everlasting love, faithfulness, and fidelity. In the modern books, they're ALL rakes. In the Regency ones, they're rakes too. So, I guess six of one, half a dozen of the other. Okay, so I'm okay.

So we have the C's commendation of the stories. The main takeaway for me from these books is that Love can enter even into the world of the Consortium, and touch the psyche of the 'chosen sons' of the evil empire. There is potential for growth and learning everywhere! Something like this might be happening with Musk, as you say.

While he is no White Knight, he also may not be a throw-away pawn like Gates. It'll be interesting to watch what choices he makes in the coming days.

 

[mxwlll0]

More to add in the “histories mysteries” section of the archive. When looking into my past experiences at tech companies around the “valley” everything swirled and seemingly clicked into place. And another peculiarity while recapping in my mind about a particular CEO was having a revelation and I hearing a “pop” in the room that almost sounded like a gun shot - next day a drummer I once knew died. Timelines connected in seemingly unconnected ways which might take a few years to unravel…

Anyway, here’s a couple articles that involve Elon and major players along with some of my insights and recall (I’ll share more on other threads, the YT connection is another head spinner)

So the plot thickens (at least from my vantage point and past experience working for a couple of these companies)…

If Mr. Musk has plans to overhaul Twitter for the better look for a mass exodus or downsizing of the community teams - noticed first hand at another company how “woke” and authoritarian the community team became. This is where the fact checkers and content moderators sit.
I’ve never been a Musk fan boy but I get the feeling I’ve met him or will at some point depending the way my career path continues - shrouded memories coming into focus...

And while he plays up the billionaire mystique ala Bruce Wayne, I do recall his origins with the “PayPal” mafia. Here’s some wiki info on it and a list of big tech players that have been shaping (engineering?) culture for over 4 decades…

PayPal Mafia - Wikipedia

Members of the PayPal Mafia on Fortune magazine dressed in mafia-like attire. From left to right, top to bottom: Jawed Karim, Jeremy Stoppelman, Andrew McCormack, Premal Shah, Luke Nosek, Ken Howery, David O. Sacks, Peter Thiel, Keith Rabois, Reid Hoffman, Max Levchin, Roelof Botha, Russel Simmons. Elon Musk was not able to make the photoshoot due to a scheduling conflict but had an individual shot taken for the profile.

[This seems to have been modified as I recall when I first came across this it read that Elan did not agree with the name “PayPal Mafia” and chose to distance himself from the negative connotation ]

The "PayPal Mafia" is a group of former PayPal employees and founders who have since founded and developed additional technology companies[1] such as Tesla, Inc., LinkedIn, Palantir Technologies, SpaceX, Affirm, Slide, Kiva, YouTube, Yelp, and Yammer.[2] Most of the members attended Stanford University or University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign at some point in their studies.

Originally, PayPal was a money-transfer service offered by a company called Confinity which was acquired by X.com in 1999. Later X.com was renamed PayPal and purchased by eBay in 2002.[3] The original PayPal employees had difficulty adjusting to eBay's more traditional corporate culture and within four years all but 12 of the first 50 employees had left.[4] They remained connected as social and business acquaintances,[4] and a number of them worked together to form new companies and venture firms in subsequent years. This group of PayPal alumni became so prolific that the term PayPal Mafia was coined.[3] The term[5] gained even wider exposure when a 2007 article in Fortune magazine used the phrase in its headline and featured a photo of former PayPal employees in gangster attire.[5]

Members[edit]

Individuals whom the media refers to as members of the PayPal Mafia include:[5][4]

Individuals whom the media refers to as members of the PayPal Mafia include:[5][4]

• Peter Thiel, PayPal founder and former chief executive officer who is sometimes referred to as the "don" of the PayPal Mafia
• Max Levchin, founder and chief technology officer at PayPal

[This guy ]

Elon Musk, founder of X.com which acquired the company Confinity. Musk later became an early investor of Tesla Inc, he then founded SpaceX, Neuralink, OpenAI, The Boring Company, and was the Chairman of SolarCity before its acquisition by Tesla

• David O. Sacks, former PayPal COO who later founded Geni.com and Yammer
• Scott Banister, early advisor and board member at PayPal.[6]
• Roelof Botha, former PayPal CFO who later became a partner and Senior Steward of venture capital firm Sequoia Capital
• Steve Chen, former PayPal engineer who co-founded YouTube.
• Reid Hoffman, former executive vice president who later founded LinkedIn and was an early investor in Facebook, Aviary
• Ken Howery, former PayPal CFO who became a partner at Founders Fund
• Chad Hurley, former PayPal web designer who co-founded YouTube
• Eric M. Jackson, who wrote the book The PayPal Wars and became chief executive officer of WND Books and co-founded CapLinked
• Jawed Karim, former PayPal engineer who co-founded YouTube
• Jared Kopf, former PayPal (executive assistant to Peter Thiel) who co-founded Slide, HomeRun and NextRoll
• Dave McClure, former PayPal marketing director, a super angel investor for start up companies
• Andrew McCormack, co-founder of Valar Ventures
• Luke Nosek, PayPal co-founder and former vice president of marketing and strategy, became a partner at Founders Fund with Peter Thiel and Ken Howery
• Keith Rabois, former executive at PayPal who later worked at LinkedIn, Slide, Square, Khosla Ventures, and currently with Peter Thiel at Founders Fund, and personally invested in Tokbox, Xoom, Slide, LinkedIn, Geni, Room 9 Entertainment, YouTube, and Yelp
• Jack Selby, former vice president of corporate and international development at PayPal who co-founded Clarium Capital with Peter Thiel, later becoming managing director of Grandmaster Capital Management
• Premal Shah, former product manager at PayPal, became the founding president of Kiva.org
• Russel Simmons, former PayPal engineer who co-founded Yelp Inc.
• Jeremy Stoppelman, former vice president of technology at PayPal who later co-founded Yelp
• Yishan Wong, former engineering manager at PayPal, later worked at Facebook and became the CEO of Reddit

The 'PayPal Mafia' formed in the early 2000s, and includes everyone from Elon Musk to the Yelp founders. Here's where the original members have ended up.

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Further down the Rabbit Hole, here comes the Ukraine-connection. It’s now peculiar that many Russians I worked with were Ukrainians but referred to themselves as Russian. Also, I feel this author goes a little off the rails on the China connection, but there’s some hidden history here as to how these guys operate and why and to what aim - Who really is the “leviathan chin” and is Elon working is own “long view strategy? My hunch is yes…

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THE UKRAINIAN CONNECTION: What's The Real Story Behind Max Levchin and PayPal?

Behind Stanford and Silicon Valley's weird ties to China, Ukraine, and South Africa

charlesjohnson.substack.com

As with any good book there are multiple ways to read Soni’s book, The Founders: Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and the Company that Made the Modern Internet about PayPal. Throughout there are tantalizing little details that would escape all but the most careful readers. Fortunately you are in luck as I read the book with near Talmudic attention to detail and know some of the key players. One might say that I am if not a PayPal mafiosi then a sort of Inspector Javert to their Jean Valjean — pursuing the leads, almost to extremes. Or if you prefer, Tom Hanks’ FBI agent to Leonardo DiCaprio’s Frank Abagnale Jr.

First, let me lay my cards on the table.

I have never been particularly convinced that PayPal was, in fact, a technology company at all. Technology is about making the world better. Does PayPal? It’s hard to say it does.

My view is that PayPal was a money laundry masquerading as a tech company and that PayPal pulled it off by helping the U.S. government catch smaller fish.

[This revelation of laundering money came to me shortly before finding this article]

Peter Thiel has, by his own admission, said that PayPal wasn’t possible after the launch of Patriot Act. Why? Because of its strengthening of financial controls. Soni mentions in passing PayPal’s ties to SoftBank and Deutsche Bank — both of which are now under investigation by the FBI — isn’t really commented upon but we know from other journalistic investigations that both SoftBank and Deutsche Bank are deeply compromised by foreign actors.

The story of Max Levchin’s rise to power riches is chronicled in Jimmy Soni’s book but it leaves out curious ties to Ukraine and China that are altogether interesting and revelatory in light of the current crisis in Eastern Europe.

We have already explored the secret history of Facebook — where Peter Thiel was a major investor — and discussed at length Reid Hoffman’s ties to spy financier Jeffrey Epstein, ties which deserve further exploration and were whitewashed in a major MIT report.

Both Thiel and Hoffman have their own family ties to China through their fathers. (Hoffman’s father William Parker Jr. worked as a lawyer for the Black Panthers who have longstanding ties to the Chinese and his grandparents even took a camper across the Soviet Union in 1985 while Thiel’s father Klaus helped mine the uranium for the South African, Israeli, and Chinese atomic bombs.)

In a way one can look closely at Stanford with its Hoover Institution as a kind of extension of the Chinese influence in the United States. Hoover himself had quite a lot of Chinese ties — he remains our only U.S. president to speak Mandarin — and there’s some indication that his mining company was promoted by the Chinese Empire itself (such as it was).

Here’s an analysis from 1987.

Two grandchildren of President Herbert Hoover and a group of Hoover scholars are trying to reconstruct the three years the 31st American president spent as a young geologist in northeast China’s grimy industrial city of Tianjin.

Hoover, president from 1928-32, is best known for presiding over the onset of the Great Depression.

But Tom Walsh, assistant director of the Herbert Hoover Presidential Library in West Branch, Iowa, said Monday that Hoover’s stay in Tianjin from 1899-1901 was a formative period in the future politician’s life. He assisted the Chinese Bureau of Mines in developing mining resources and building harbors, Walsh said.

″When he first came to China at the age of 24, he had a job of incredible responsibility,″ said Herbert Hoover III of Los Angeles, the president’s grandson. ″It was what we call today a quick solution - go out and find gold.″ (Terrill Jones, “U.S. Group Exploring Herbert Hoover’s China Roots,” Associated Press, April 28, 1987.)

Hoover was essentially created by the Chinese and other foreign powers while there. He was a construct who ultimately became the first technocratic president as a very revealing Harvard thesis on Hoover’s China ties makes clear. No, seriously read it.

Recall further that I wrote my own college thesis turned book — Why Coolidge Matters: Leadership Lessons For America’s Most Underrated President — into a discussion of the statesmanship of Calvin Coolidge. Coolidge once said of his Harding-inherited Commerce Secretary, Herbert Hoover, "That man" — Coolidge called him a “wonder boy” — "has offered me unsolicited advice every day for six years, all of it bad.”

A young man in a hurry with an entrepreneurial bent who might forever be loyal to the system that brought him up and who nevertheless makes a lot of mistakes? Why, that sure seems familiar. A “wonder boy.” Gee, where have I heard of such a thing? Could it be in Silicon Valley where male youth is fetishized but where you can’t really break in thanks to the mafia?

As with Hoover, so too with Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley has a lot of secrets about itself that are only now coming into focus.

Hoover took with him some Chinese to South Africa — a group that would later prove essential for extracting the uranium and other natural resources from South Africa for the communist state.

A brief history of Chimerica from 1991 to 2021

Recall then that the trade deficit between the United States winds up with the Chinese amassing considerable U.S. dollars. As the Chinese state more or less controls all these dollars coming into China they then control where and how those dollars are redeployed.

Since the fall of the Soviet Union — which was largely a Chinese exercise to steal Russian assets by way of the Soviet Jewish oligarchs — those dollars have gone around the world and achieved the objectives of the Chinese state by controlling the commanding heights. This great theft was understood as such by the Russians at the time and indeed

In the United States the Chinese deploy front men who act as their go betweens. In particular the markets they’ve targeted are real estate (think Jared Kushner), private equity (Steve Schwarzman), venture capital (think Sequoia’s Roelof Botha and Founders Fund’s Peter Thiel), Hollywood (Steve Mnuchin), and casinos (think Sheldon Adelson or Steve Wynn).

This is known at the highest levels of the so-called American deep state. Often the U.S. government works to turn the owners of these companies or, if necessary, works to jail them. Oftentimes the billionaires who are created by the Chinese cash want to play ball. That is, only once they’ve extracted as much as they can.

Now under Biden the Chinese cash spigot has been dialed back and the Chinese are directing its flow toward Latin America which they hope to pry from American control. The Chinese intend to flood America with migrants at will. This is the beginnings of migration as a weapon. Africa, meanwhile, has fallen out of their control and into ours.

We’re checking the Chinese by having a sort of detente with Venezuela and Iran, who currently sell discounted oil to the Chinese in contravention of the sanctions.

The Biden government believes that AUKUS will ultimately work with the Chinese to carve up Russia’s assets. Are they right? I suppose time will tell.

[Author missed the mark on that one it seems… ]

Back to the PayPal mafia…

It’s my contention, and indeed Soni’s, that Max Levchin’s story is the key story in the PayPal story and we will examine him in full in a moment.

Levin, along with Chinese-born Yu Pan, is the architect of the PayPal payment system and it is he who ultimately decides that Peter Thiel ought to become CEO of Continuity and eventually head up PayPal. (Interestingly neither Yu Pan nor Steve Chen’s role in PayPal are terribly closely examined in the book nor in the lore which is odd because Chen went on to start YouTube, which was quickly sold to Google.

[Levchin’s Slide was acquired by Google in 2010, later went to YT - housed premiere data analyst]

We are further told that Chen is Taiwanese, as if that’s much of a distinction these days.)

Soni notes that it was Thiel who brings in David Sacks, his COO, who is both Ukrainian Jew and South African-born. Later Sacks would found Geni (acquired by the very Chinese-Israeli MyHeritage website) and Yammer (bought by the very compromised Microsoft). Today Sacks runs a fund that invested in Locals, which has an Israeli cofounder and helps people — maybe governments? — fund key voices online. With a straight face Sacks claims that Bird — the electric scooter company imported from China — is solving the last minute transportation problem. Naturally Sacks is the second largest shareholder. We wanted flying cars and we got electric scooters. Don’t worry, though, Sacks has optioned Soni’s book for a TV show. In a recent interview he even compared it to Michael Jordan’s Last Dance.

Thiel’s aide-de-camp was the very young Roelof Botha, whose grandfather Pik Botha was a very pro-China foreign minister who helped the South Africans get the atomic bomb. Once Nelson Mandela became South Africa’s first black president in 1994, Botha served as minister of minerals and energy for two years.

The looting of South Africa began in earnest. While the New York Times noticed that China and apartheid South Africa had an alliance, the Gray Lady got the degree of causation wrong. It was China which helped South Africa develop its uranium mines. Peter Thiel’s father Klaus, who never became an American citizen, went to go work in Papa New Guinea, a mine with strong ties to the Chinese. (Rather interestingly Botha was introduced to Musk through Jeremy Liew, an early investor in Snapchat who was forced into early retirement.)

The Ukrainian Connection

In the early days moving money from resource extractive and/or politically problematic economies into the United States is what PayPal is really about.

How to move the money is an important question and Levchin’s tech team had its share of foreigners who had a keen personal and familial interest in its success. The Fall of the Soviet Union, the return of Hong Kong to China’s authority, and the end of the apartheid government in South Africa necessitated the looting of those countries.

How then shall we take Levchin’s partnership with Israeli computer scientist Dan Bonen of Stanford whose own ties to Israeli intelligence are known? Recall the closeness of ties between the State of Israel and Levchin’s native Ukraine. (We explored some of those ties in the post we did on Facebook.)

And more to the point: what’s the deal with Levchin’s father?

Levchin has himself noted that everyone in his family was a physicist save his father. He endowed a scholarship for his grandmother at his alma mater.

It’s my view that Levchin is a member in good standing with the Ukrainian-Jewish deep state. His father, Rafael, is curiously hard to find many things about.

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That mention of the Post Futurists a.k.a. Metarealists caught my eye. From my reading this group was an explicitly anti-Russian deep state operation which could well have imperiled the family. Like Elon Musk’s grandfather who had ties to Technocracy (which is itself a Chinese op that imagines governance by engineers) Levchin’s father’s ties to Ilya Kutik and this movement generally suggests something more interesting than at first blush. (Kutik would go on to work for the BBC and to become a professor of Slavic languages at Northwestern University.)

"In the early 1980s, as Levchin entered his teenage years, the Soviet economy was in freefall and the Politburo was in panic,” writes Soni. “Lukatskaya [Levchin’s grandmother] began to feel the disquieting echoes of World War II, the horrors of which she had seen firsthand. As best as the family could tell, the KGB was monitoring Levchin’s father, and the prospect of the government disappearing him loomed large."

Could it have been that they had good reason to monitor Levchin’s father? We aren’t told why. As with other refusenik Jews seeking to leave the former Soviet Union there’s a bit of intrigue. Elsewhere Levchin has alluded to his parents trying to leave Ukraine multiple times, unbeknownst to him at the time.

Levchin was admitted to the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign under false pretenses.

Levchin was referring, of course, to MIT. His college counselor recommended that he apply to the nearby University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) instead. Here, too, there was an issue: Levchin had missed UIUC’s application deadline. But scanning the requirements, he noticed that the deadline for international students hadn’t passed yet. He saw an opening: “I’m international-ish,” he said. “I’m not a citizen, came to the US less than two years ago, who is to say?” And under that pretense, UIUC said yes to Levchin."

Levchin’s second scam proved more troublesome: lying to the U.S. government on a security related project.

"During Levchin’s tenure, the Army Corps of Engineers grew concerned about foreign employees and information security. Unfortunately for the research outpost at Urbana-Champaign, that meant potentially losing the vast share of its programming talent and leaving a complex computer system in the hands of staff unfamiliar with its upkeep. Levchin was on the chopping block as well, but his manager intervened: Levchin would continue working on his helicopter software, and he’d receive off-the-books payment in the form of computer parts. This worked in the interim, and the Corps ultimately kept its foreign workers, though with a troubling stipulation: non-US citizen contractors would have to wear yellow identification tags. “If you wear one of these badges, you were monitored closely. You could not leave your desk. And if you did, you would have to be escorted,” Levchin recalled. For a Jewish refugee, the badges evoked painful parallels. “I didn’t have to do this, but I had relatives who did,” he said. Levchin quit the US Army Corps of Engineers, though he kept the tag, a fraught relic from the strangest of his college side hustles."

So, rather than comply with a rather reasonable demand of the federal government, Levchin elected to smear it as evoking the Holocaust. Nice. Maybe he just didn’t want to be monitored?

Given these two scams and willingness to bend the rules, we might ask if Levchin bent the rules (or broke the law) at PayPal.

There’s a hint here.

"At one point, Levchin and his team learned that they neglected to use double-entry accounting in the PayPal system. Double-entry accounting is a centuries-old cornerstone of bookkeeping, by which any credit or debit has an equal and opposite record. “If you’re an engineer, and you’ve never encountered accounting,” Levchin said, “you don’t really understand why it might be helpful to have two copies… I thought ‘double-entry’ accounting was some weird accountant fiction.”"

[That’s a pretty big oops! Did they fix the glitch? Probably not…]

This sounds awfully suspicious when you realize that PayPal had a vast problem with fraud. Levin used to talk to the fraudsters in Russian on the phone. What, pray tell, were they really talking about?

Levchin has done quite a bit of his own myth making and he has eluded the sort of attention and profiles that the other members of the PayPal mafia have attracted.

His other companies — Glow and Affirm — reveal close Chinese ties, ties that are especially relevant now that China has been building a biometric profile of everyone on Earth. The Chinese have shown a keen interest on pregnancy and financial literacy.

Glow never really took off. Today the U.S. government notes that China has been harvesting the data of millions of pregnant women.

Was Glow similarly affected? When I spoke with Glow about doing a deal they immediately cooled when I mentioned that I had problem with its Chinese ties.

And Levchin’s company, Affirm, where he is CEO, has its business model of Buy Now, Pay Later model under serious investigation by the Feds.

Is Levchin merely a dupe? Or is something more disturbing going on?

I Suspect MORE DISTURBING!!! - The guy’s a magnetic spellbinding, vegan, and may “mind meld”. Very cold and robotic too - Modern Frankenstein?

Get that pop corn going I think the Show is gonna rev up soon - hopefully Elon has the courage to go through with the deal!

 

[Cosmos]

We don't have any information from the C's about Bezos and Musk, but there's this:






I was thinking about Elon Musk recently, and had a similar thought to yours - and the dark romance novels popped into my head.



So we have the C's commendation of the stories. The main takeaway for me from these books is that Love can enter even into the world of the Consortium, and touch the psyche of the 'chosen sons' of the evil empire. There is potential for growth and learning everywhere! Something like this might be happening with Musk, as you say.

While he is no White Knight, he also may not be a throw-away pawn like Gates. It'll be interesting to watch what choices he makes in the coming days.

Very interesting and IMO not so unlikely possibilities!

More to add in the “histories mysteries” section of the archive. When looking into my past experiences at tech companies around the “valley” everything swirled and seemingly clicked into place. And another peculiarity while recapping in my mind about a particular CEO was having a revelation and I hearing a “pop” in the room that almost sounded like a gun shot - next day a drummer I once knew died. Timelines connected in seemingly unconnected ways which might take a few years to unravel…

Anyway, here’s a couple articles that involve Elon and major players along with some of my insights and recall (I’ll share more on other threads, the YT connection is another head spinner)

So the plot thickens (at least from my vantage point and past experience working for a couple of these companies)…

If Mr. Musk has plans to overhaul Twitter for the better look for a mass exodus or downsizing of the community teams - noticed first hand at another company how “woke” and authoritarian the community team became. This is where the fact checkers and content moderators sit.
I’ve never been a Musk fan boy but I get the feeling I’ve met him or will at some point depending the way my career path continues - shrouded memories coming into focus...

And while he plays up the billionaire mystique ala Bruce Wayne, I do recall his origins with the “PayPal” mafia. Here’s some wiki info on it and a list of big tech players that have been shaping (engineering?) culture for over 4 decades…

PayPal Mafia - Wikipedia



[This seems to have been modified as I recall when I first came across this it read that Elan did not agree with the name “PayPal Mafia” and chose to distance himself from the negative connotation ]


The 'PayPal Mafia' formed in the early 2000s, and includes everyone from Elon Musk to the Yelp founders. Here's where the original members have ended up.

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Further down the Rabbit Hole, here comes the Ukraine-connection. It’s now peculiar that many Russians I worked with were Ukrainians but referred to themselves as Russian. Also, I feel this author goes a little off the rails on the China connection, but there’s some hidden history here as to how these guys operate and why and to what aim - Who really is the “leviathan chin” and is Elon working is own “long view strategy? My hunch is yes…

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THE UKRAINIAN CONNECTION: What's The Real Story Behind Max Levchin and PayPal?

Behind Stanford and Silicon Valley's weird ties to China, Ukraine, and South Africa

charlesjohnson.substack.com

[This revelation of laundering money came to me shortly before finding this article]



A brief history of Chimerica from 1991 to 2021



[Author missed the mark on that one it seems… ]



[Levchin’s Slide was acquired by Google in 2010, later went to YT - housed premiere data analyst]



The Ukrainian Connection



[That’s a pretty big oops! Did they fix the glitch? Probably not…]



I Suspect MORE DISTURBING!!! - The guy’s a magnetic spellbinding, vegan, and may “mind meld”. Very cold and robotic too - Modern Frankenstein?

Get that pop corn going I think the Show is gonna rev up soon - hopefully Elon has the courage to go through with the deal!

I haven’t followed or read all of your analysis above, but from the little I did read and skim through, it seems to me that you are uncovering some pretty interesting details and connections.

One thing I keep encountering (not only here but in many different areas) are the peculiar names of some of the „movers and shakers“ and key figures in the background, which it seems, more often than not, sound quite „jewish/Yiddish/Hebraic“ and/or german.

Just to name a few:

Ellon Musk
Errol Musk (father of Ellon)
Jana Bezuidenhout (ex wife of Errol)
Maye Musk (Ellons mother: born with the name „Maye Haldeman“)
Mark Zuckerberg
Klaus Schwab
Jeffrey Epstein
Victoria Nuland („Nuland“ is a deliberate shortening of the original name „Nudelman“, which was the name of her grandparents)

What we are seeing in some of those people and their connections might be an „outer layer“ of the „real movers and shakers“ in the background, in the inner circle of „the consortium“, which might be significantly constituted of „Zionistic“ and/or "MOSSADisch" and/or "german" people, in terms of their backgrounds and histories.

 

[Ca.]

The New York Times is promoting Elon as the grabber of free speech. But the NYT's and Musk are from the same well of deception.
With Elons business dealings being slightly schizophrenic.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525265851783360517

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525687791836872704

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525581552062693376

https://twitter.com/x/status/1525509751718690816

Dan O'Dowd interviewed by E for Electric - The Dawn Project

Dan O'Dowd interviewed by Alex Guberman of E for Electric about his campaign to make computers safe for humanity.

odowdforsenate.com

Dan’s interview was published on May 12, 2022, here

Elon Musk's Starlink Is Helping Ukraine Stay Connected - CleanTechnica

Starlink is helping Ukraine stay online and Russia isn't too happy about this. Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk shared an

cleantechnica.com

Elon Musk is likely trying to get a lower price for Twitter

Elon Musk moves to try to get a lower price for Twitter, as his own net worth has declined along with the value of Tesla shares.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[Voyageur]

Victoria Nuland („Nuland“ is a deliberate shortening of the original name „Nudelman“, which was the name of her grandparents)

Yes, and Gonzalo Lira provides an interesting talk on Nuland's family/grandparents found on YT here (starts at around 18.5 min.).

 

[XPan]

Check. Check. And oh, right ... Check again

Elon Musk isn't really a mystery, but more of a controlled opposition troll.
What comes around goes around.

Check.

 

[Neil]

My reading on Musk is that he's something of a useful idiot who is easily manipulated via his ego (maybe a charecteropath of some sort), but not a full blown psychopath so he's not really part of "the club." All I see at the moment is a media darling who is hyped up to be some kind of super genius savior who would not be where he is without a government teat to suck on. Since he is not a hardcore psychopath I suppose the potential exists within him to be more than he is, but his transhumanist tendencies seem to largely be supporting the overall agenda of the PTB, even if he sometimes conflicts with their general consensus and they keep him at arms length because he is not evil enough.

 

[bjorb]

Maybe Musk will deport the Woke to Mars

https://twitter.com/x/status/1527356085090545664

 

[bjorb]

I think there is a chance that Musk is going to get the same treatment as Trump sooner or later. But that depends on how he continues to act vocally.

Called it:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1527629698267615232

 

[Palinurus]

Ran into this one today. Might contain a clue concerning his future...

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

The president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, spoke this Friday before a Reuters note that indicated that the Tesla brand is threatened after criticism by its owner, Elon Musk, of the US Democratic Party. and a report on a lawsuit for sexual misconduct filed by a stewardess against the tycoon.

"Once you call out the system, they will come after you with everything they have. They will smear, attack, demean, try to bankrupt you and make people think you deserve it," Trump wrote on his Twitter account. "Fortunately, we live in times of evolution, and your once 'almighty' media outlets have lost their influence," he added.

@rtdaily

 

[bjorb]

Musk is having an awakening and shows he is able to learn and see reality more objectively when time progresses. How far is he able to venture into the rabbit hole?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1529862093142360066