Enforcement of VAX escalating

Really, let's be honest.

  • The anti vaxxers want this whole thing to end and are trying to convince everyone from continuing to say yes, otherwise it won't end.
  • The pro vax are out here busy saying yes because they either don't want to get covid, keep a job or go on a holiday.
As long as they keep saying yes it won't stop - so it's easy for the PTB. Keep churning out the variants, put the vaccine passports in place and make this the status quo.

Anti vaxxers will be driven to extinction by the vaxxers who seem to be on that treadmill of saying yes. Bloody governments won't get off our backs dear anti vaxxers at this rate. Really, what will save the anti vaxxers are the adverse effects from the jabs which they hope will wake people up. If the vaxxers accept the adverse effects are normal or "rare" then dear me... we aren't getting of this train and are headed straight to hell (but you'll be happy 😉). You'll be in hell but you'll be happy - WEF should have gone with that.

Hail Mary will either have to be GVBs much awaited variant or a rock touching down from space. Either way, doesn't look like this thing is ending well - hope people enjoyed their olds lives as looks like it isn't coming back. We're all heading to hell so might as well enjoy the ride. All because bloody vaxxers couldn't muster up the courage to bloody say no... Oh well 🤷
 
Basically, I won't be gettin' any of those injections unless I have to, and if I have to I'll be pretty grumpy about it, but I'll try hard to make it make no difference to how I behave in the world either way..
If the injection would be benign I could understand choosing to lose a bit a freedom and get it over with. But having the knowledge that these Mrna vaxx are most probably harmfull, i'm not convinced that it's a good option for both you and your surrounding, and I'm pretty convinced that it becomes a STS choice at this point.
Maybe there are situations that warrants it and it's the only option left , like when you have mouths to feed even then if life becomes very hard I tend to think not taking it is a better option for various reasons but maybe I'm wrong.
 
I wasn't being metaphorical. If you don't own your body, you're a slave.

When someone equates actual physical slavery, as in a life of hard work in chains, with a 'slavery of the mind' whereby a person submits to having a vaccine on the basis of lies and manipulation, those are two different things. But you're correct, stating that physical slavery, which is very specific, is the same as a nebulous and context-specific kind of mental slavery as I just described, is not a metaphor. It's just wrong.
 
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I've had a lot of time to think about this and fortunately vaccine mandates really aren't on the horizon for me, but considering the power that the "cabal" has I can't really see this being the case for a whole lot longer. I fall into the camp that the vaccine is to be resisted to the death, however I also believe that it is not the correct choice for everyone. The determining factors fall under what I consider to be responsibility and obligation.

For me, I now have very little personal duty or responsibility to anything or anybody. In my personal estimation, I came here to have my mind blown by experiencing the transition to 4D and be opened to cosmic possibilities beyond the constraints of petty human affairs. I recall reading about "Families of Light" and "System Busters" who were supposed to prevent Earth and the local galactic environment from moving into some tyrannical future ruled by 4D STS, which may have something to do with it as well. What I have gotten instead is a series of purely stage managed crises by a bunch stuffed suit bureaucrats who participate in bizarre rituals, believing themselves to be wizards while in reality they are nothing more than highly polished cockroaches. They sit at the head of a species that is irredeemably stupid and not deserving of salvation, but I suppose I shouldn't be too harsh as humanity is merely carrying out its design function as programmed by its 4D STS creators. STO supposedly has some grand plan, it is all about the lessons learned, but from what I can tell no one, or very nearly no one, is learning anything. For those of us who are not as stupid, these "irredeemables" are dragging the rest of us down into a reality we don't want to be a part of. The only way I will participate in the transhumanist dystopian future is as an instrument of its destruction. If I am not powerful enough to play this role, then I have no business being here at all, and there is nothing at all in 3D worth keeping me in this body any longer. If the choice is "belong or starve" as the Cassiopaeans once put it, then I choose to starve.

The planet seems to be undergoing a mass demonic possession, the alien invasion has begun in earnest, and the demon requests that you perform certain tasks for it, which allows it to gradually subsume your freewill and dig its hooks in deeper and deeper. It started with masks and social distancing, has moved to gene therapy, will move to smart cities and some type of Communistic "you will own nothing and be happy," and from there moves onto implants or who knows what. By the time you reach the end of the program you have no freewill left, and the further you progress along it the harder it becomes to resist. I refuse to participate in that reality. If that is the "grand plan" the universe can destroy me if it wishes, but it will acknowledge my demands. Absent some miracle, the time of Earth is over and it's time for everyone to move on.

My grandma got Moderna, after being on the fence for awhile, the TV eventually won out. I was surprised after our talk of adverse reactions and the low lethality of the virus, but after a heated discussion I recognized that she had her choice to make and I had mine. I told her that I wouldn't shed a single tear for her if it killed her, which hurt her, but she made her bed so she can sleep in it. Human sentimentality is little more than a weakness in this environment.

In addition, I don't believe that the comets are going to save us, or that the cosmos has an implicit bias towards benevolence. The universe responds to freewill, and whoever has the most power in a given locale at a given time determines whether the environment is good or evil. Soldiers and weaponry are certainly one kind of power, but not the only one, love and camaraderie can be another. These kinds of power carry different levels of current based on their intensity, but in order for one side to prevail that equation has to balance, if the side which relies solely on guns and stormtroopers has more "voltage," then evil wins the day. At this point, it appears that any resistance to the "stormtroopers" is abysmally weak, and the upper echelons at least are aware of the Earth changes and have rolled them into their plans. 4D STS is most certainly aware. The comets introduce an element of chaos which present an opportunity, but enough bunkers and underground bases exist that the agenda will continue. Sooner or later a real battle must occur where people will have to either fight for their freedom or accept enslavement. Meeting a gruesome end is likely, but the final outcome has not yet been fully determined.

Lastly, I'm not sure how much I believe the Cassiopaeans, and I think one has to be very careful regarding Stoic philosophies regarding accepting things one cannot change. I've soured a bit on them since Trump lost the election. I've wondered if the Cassiopaeans' assurances that everything is going to more or less be ok is basically just telling Laura what she wants to hear because the alternative is too horrifying. My jury is still out on that one. I still find the experiment interesting, and it has made some startlingly accurate predictions, but I don't have as much confidence in it as I once did. Furthermore, I sometimes get the impression that some Stoics would happily line up for their own execution in the name of "that's just the way it is;" concealing cowardice and a lack of backbone with a superficially magnanimous philosophy. For all of the reasons thus far outlined, I will refuse the vaxx unto death.

Now for the other side of the equation, if you have a lot of dependents or young children that you are obligated to provide for and have done all you can to research alternatives and your back is up against the wall financially, then the calculus shifts more in favor of getting the vaxx according to my logic. The Cassiopaeans did say something about if you did all you could, yourself in the future would bridge the gap. I do not believe the protocol is a magic bullet, but this is one instance where it could be useful. This would seem to provide a way out of the "give me liberty or give me death" dilemma if one finds themselves there. It is not meant to be easy, it is meant as a last resort: that one is objectively better positioned to fulfill ones duties and obligations in the lessons one has chosen in service to a greater good by going along with the vaxx. This is the only valid exception in my book that is not concealing the fact that one has no backbone or is just taking the easy way out. Indeed if I found myself in this situation I would have to reconsider my own stance regarding the vaxx, however I think my position is unlikely to change based on the way things are going.

This situation reminds mo of the metaphor of the trees. There is one type of tree that stands up straight and tall, ever defiant against the wind. When the hurricane comes this tree snaps in two and dies instantly (you may get a few saplings around the roots). The second type of tree can bend almost 90 degrees with the wind, being bruised somewhat, but standing up straight again such that after the storm passes it appears as if nothing happened. There is a third type of tree with a shallow root system that bends too much. This tree flops onto its side, some roots still in the ground and some reaching towards the sky. This type of tree survives the storm, but slowly dies over the next couple of years because trees weren't meant to lie on the ground.

People who get violent and create a scene at the first mention of covid restrictions are a bit like the first tree. They are easy to single out and make an example of. Most of humanity is actually like the third tree and some of them have deluded themselves into thinking they are the second type when they are not. They think that if they lie down they can crawl along the ground and eventually be able to stand back up again, when that almost never happens. The second tree is obviously ideal, but there is some manner of debate what constitutes being this type. For me, it is going along with the testing (since it is just an inconvenience, but is mostly harmless) wearing a mask if absolutely required (they can be modified to be less restrictive and almost no one will call you out on it) and pretending to be more pro vaxx than you are if you are in company you that requires it and you need their services. This can also include getting fake certificates if it is viable to do so, being strategically violent or at least civilly disobedient when the time comes, and actually getting the vaxx if your specific circumstances require it and you have a specific aim which justifies why you must bend in this way. These responses are all about bending but not breaking. Being the second tree really requires one to have a good grasp on the Law of 3, one of those karmic and simple understandings, I suppose. If I had to err, I would rather be the first type than the third type, though.
@Neil I hold similar views but I'd say you appear worn down and have allowed nihilism to permeate your Being. You can't blame your grandma - remember she isn't you and will have had her reasons for taking it. She's also elderly and you need to respect her for that alone. I'd apologise to her (and mean it) if I were you.

Also, I wouldn't get angry at the C's. Really, you know your worst nightmare won't come to pass? You won't have to literally choose life or death on this. This whole thing will be resolved above our heads so just hang tight and don't lose yourself in the meantime.
 
Anti vaxxers will be driven to extinction by the vaxxers
Do you know much about the Rwandan genocide? Tutsis and Hutus massacring each other, believing that the other was a different "race" and that cohabitation wasn't possible. Today we call this "the prisoner's dilemma." And who was the jailkeeper? Who provided the doctrines of race and politics that turned Rwandans into containers for ideology? Ah yes, it was European colonial elites. The same colonial and imperial powers that transform and shak ehands, forming new governing bodies after mass economic rearrangement - the very same power structures that sanction our rights, officiate over our media and Govern the distribution of economic prosperity.

Sounds reasonable to me. Maybe it's worth being skeptical about how radicalized and politicized we should allow ourselves to become. As the machine says, the only winning move is not to play.
 
No, no of course. Perhaps we can look naive. Best disguise ever. 🙃
I'm going for bewildered. I know I could project naivety for strategic enclosure purposes, but the lie feels too icky for me. The enclosure would be comfortable, but the cost is too great. What if my naive lie were interpreted as tacit acknowledgment and support. What if my lie solidified someone's pro-vax stance. No thank you, my comfort isn't worth that much.

I prefer to be bewildered. No lie necessary, much more authentic. You don't even need words to convey, 'really, you believe this?", you only need a seriously quizzical look. "Oh, I'm sorry, I always forget that some people still watch TV. I've been mostly watching global news and medical journals, it helps for the bigger picture. Did you see that fully-vaccinated cruise that left Louisiana the other day and ended up with a 'breakthrough' epidemic? Or, say, Lebron James? Did you hear about Elton John's neurological problems since he got the vaccine? What about x, y, z?"

This to me feels infinitely more wholesome than pretending naivety. If you pretend naivety, you've painted yourself into a corner where the only consistent answers to uphold the naivety narrative are stupid-sounding lies. Whereas, if you choose honest bewilderment, you have access to the full spectrum of your research and knowledge. I know that's the approach I'll pick any time I have a choice.

So what if it paints a target on my back. I'd rather have that weighing on my mind, than guilt on my heart.
 
It does change it in the context of this discussion. When someone does something with the knowledge of what they are doing, that is different to someone who does the same thing without that knowledge.
Yes - I agree. If you do something and you have a reasonable ability to predict the consequences, you are, in a sense, responsible for the consequences. If you're being duped, you're a predictable dupe whose behaviour is being managed by the responsible party.
 
When someone equates actual physical slavery, as in a life of hard work in chains, with a 'slavery of the mind' whereby a person submits to having a vaccine on the basis of lies and manipulation, those are two different things. But you're correct, stating that physical slavery, which is very specific, is the same as a nebulous and context-specific kind of mental slavery as I just described, is not a metaphor. It's simply wrong.

That isn't even slightly the point. This is not some abstract mental slavery. It's quite concrete. A slave is defined as a human whose body is owned by another. Ownership is the ability to do as one will with one's property. If one does not have control over what goes into their body, one does not own it; the person choosing what goes into it does. Therefore one is a slave.
 
Yes, if anyone's interested in opposing slavery, please feel free to reach out to me and I can direct you toward some pretty dire circumstances that could use your principles.

And if it's becoming a kind of human livestock that you fear most, I hesitate to inform you about capitalism. You may find the impact of capitalism on the human animal (let alone non human animals) disturbing to say the least. Again, I could direct folk in one way or another about how to begin an opposition against capitalism, but yes, sorry, we were talking about the vaccine.

It seems we have a very different definition of capitalism, then. Do you believe capitalism exists anywhere in the world right now? Capitalism is based on the free market, which is based on free will and economic agents coming to contractual decisions in mutual consent. If you disagree with this definition, you were probably thinking of socialist corporatism, which is what we've had for the last hundred years and which people keep calling 'capitalism'. But it isn't. Despite wearing capitalism as a skin-suit, all of us have grown under the spectrum of socialism.

Socialism is slavery by the very nature of its system. And the vaccine is about to empower the totalitarian socialists.
 
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That isn't even slightly the point. This is not some abstract mental slavery. It's quite concrete. A slave is defined as a human whose body is owned by another. Ownership is the ability to do as one will with one's property. If one does not have control over what goes into their body, one does not own it; the person choosing what goes into it does. Therefore one is a slave.
Not children, though, or people who dine out, they're not slaves. Or guests at your house, or dumpster divers, or airline passengers, or blah blah, on and on. We live in a world where we consent to being fed things we may not understand and it's double, triple, quadruple true of medicine. We are subjected to atmospheric pollution constantly. Radio waves. Noise is a vibration that enters the body, my god, I did not consent! And we also consent to eating things we DO understand even when the consequences are DIRE. This is no one's definition of slavery.
 
So... real slavery, where your actions and physical situation are largely dictated to you

Is different than or not equal to

Having a set of PROSCRIBED actions you must do which are non-negotiable.

PLUS

Having a limited set of ALLOWED actions (and thoughts and feelings)

PLUS

A subset of FORBIDDEN actions all of which can be modified at any time with varying degrees of loss/coercion if you transgress.

...An offer you can’t refuse if you are “reasonable”

?
 
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When someone equates actual physical slavery, as in a life of hard work in chains, with a 'slavery of the mind' whereby a person submits to having a vaccine on the basis of lies and manipulation, those are two different things. But you're correct, stating that physical slavery, which is very specific, is the same as a nebulous and context-specific kind of mental slavery as I just described, is not a metaphor. It's simply wrong.

How is bending over, spreading wide and letting .gov take up admin privileges to your genetics in any way not slavery?
 
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