Failed Trump Assassination Attempt
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Benjamin
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Thanks for taking the time to explaining that @Approaching Infinity! That was really helpful.
Could this be called the leading pressure wave?
It's called flutter echo. It's described by people as having an annoying metallic sound.
Yeah. I heard it.
Is there some kind of flutter echo happening here? Dave was right under a tree. Trees are used to absorb noise which is one reason why they're planted in urban areas of cities. But I wonder if the leaves act like a diffuser rather then an absorber. Once the mid-high frequency waves from the supersonic crack (and/or whiz) hit the leaves, the sound got reflected back and forth amongst them extremely quickly like a clap in a room. The tree turns into an 'echo chamber' of sorts until the energy of the waves dissipate. Maybe?
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Could this be called the leading pressure wave?
It's called flutter echo. It's described by people as having an annoying metallic sound.
Yeah. I heard it.
Is there some kind of flutter echo happening here? Dave was right under a tree. Trees are used to absorb noise which is one reason why they're planted in urban areas of cities. But I wonder if the leaves act like a diffuser rather then an absorber. Once the mid-high frequency waves from the supersonic crack (and/or whiz) hit the leaves, the sound got reflected back and forth amongst them extremely quickly like a clap in a room. The tree turns into an 'echo chamber' of sorts until the energy of the waves dissipate. Maybe?
Hardwood acoustic diffuser panel:
Dunno! I had to google it. ;) The first hit associated that term with supersonic phenomena, though.
Cool, didn't know that. Thanks!
A good a guess as any at this point. Jon Malis was also under a tree to the west of the AGR building and didn't get the same effect, but Dave had the advantage of being roughly in the path of the bullets so got a whole lot more sound.
That’s not Crooks but another guy. Approaching Infinity mentioned it somewhere earlier in the thread.
A small blip on the radar: the AGR building was apparently sold four months ago in March to a company called Indicor, "a diversified industrial solutions company", whatever that means. Indicor's CEO is Doug Wright who has worked with Raytheon.
The Company Building Where Trump Shooter Sniped From Was Sold Four Months Ago | The Gateway Pundit | by Anthony Scott
The building in Butler, Pennsylvania, where Thomas Matthew Crooks climbed on the roof and fired shots that hit President Trump and several supporters, was sold just four months ago.www.thegatewaypundit.com
I don't know how well in advance Trump's rally locations are announced. In any case, maybe Butler PA was an expected location since he's had rallies there before. Just pure speculation, but maybe 'they' had identified the location as suitable for their purposes earlier and by changing owners, they could more easily arrange things. Maybe, maybe not.
I also appears that the building was sold shortly after the assassination attempt according to Dave:
Here is the source:
AGR goes international
A building that houses one of Butler County’s oldest businesses is now going to be labeled in history books as the place where would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks shot at former President Donald T...
Can’t read it myself unfortunately, but Dave might have misread it and the article talks about the selling of the building a couple of months ago?
Ruth
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Another perspective on the Trump shooting: (If this has already been posted, I apologise.)
And The Health Ranger has 6 different sound files to look at:
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And The Health Ranger has 6 different sound files to look at:
UPDATED multi-track audio analysis of shooting reveals SHOCKING Secret Service failure
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Ruth
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I have a question, and it's probably a silly one, but what was Crooks wearing when he crawled up on that roof? Pants or shorts? Remember that was supposedly a hot tin roof which he 'bear crawled' up. The dead body in the videos was dressed in shorts, but the video taken from the side, maybe those weren't shorts? It's difficult to tell, I know, especially at that distance. (0.18-0.22) . If this was Crooks on the roof, dressed in only light coloured shorts, he was very badly prepared for crawling up a hot tin roof.
Apparently, Sen Josh Hawley has been speaking to whistleblowers and the whole thing seemed designed to fail.
Apparently, Sen Josh Hawley has been speaking to whistleblowers and the whole thing seemed designed to fail.
I think he's wearing tan shorts, and his legs are very white... so they blend together at a distance.
And on that documentary, what they're saying is that if the suspect gets shot, then the secret service are guilty of murder. But the point still stands, maybe don't shoot the guy, simply cover the roof as a restricted area, and if someone enters it, it's considered a threat, so Trump shouldn't have been allowed in the target zone, even if they don't shoot.. but moving trump out of the danger zone, and watching the shooter's response, would show the motive.
I have no words other than that a setup is being planned, as many others have realized, and I am inclined to believe it is a Zionist agenda pushing Iranian fear porn via proxies
US Secret Service fears another assassination attempt on Trump — senator
NEW YORK, August 6. /TASS/. US Secret Service agents fear that the situation with the attempted assassination of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump could be repeated, Senator Josh Hawley, who represents the state of Missouri, told Fox News.
"Frankly, they [Secret Service agents] are scared to death [that] this (the situation with the attempted assassination of Trump - TASS) is going to happen again. We can't let it happen again," the senator said, citing sources in the agency.
According to him, the root cause of the problem is that the service’s leadership "is not taking action to clear out the rot."
In particular, Hawley said, the lead site agent responsible for ensuring security at the rally remains on the job. He said she was "inexperienced and incompetent," failed to provide adequate security, and didn't even check people's IDs. At the same time, all of the personnel providing security at the rally were Homeland Security agents who had never provided security at the rallies before.
The assassination attempt on Trump took place on July 13 at an election rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. The ex-president suffered a minor injury to his ear. The attacker, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, was killed by US Secret Service officers.
US Secret Service fears another assassination attempt on Trump — senator
NEW YORK, August 6. /TASS/. US Secret Service agents fear that the situation with the attempted assassination of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump could be repeated, Senator Josh Hawley, who represents the state of Missouri, told Fox News.
"Frankly, they [Secret Service agents] are scared to death [that] this (the situation with the attempted assassination of Trump - TASS) is going to happen again. We can't let it happen again," the senator said, citing sources in the agency.
According to him, the root cause of the problem is that the service’s leadership "is not taking action to clear out the rot."
In particular, Hawley said, the lead site agent responsible for ensuring security at the rally remains on the job. He said she was "inexperienced and incompetent," failed to provide adequate security, and didn't even check people's IDs. At the same time, all of the personnel providing security at the rally were Homeland Security agents who had never provided security at the rallies before.
The assassination attempt on Trump took place on July 13 at an election rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. The ex-president suffered a minor injury to his ear. The attacker, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, was killed by US Secret Service officers.
This is already a couple of days old, but in one of the latest presentations by Martenson there appears some good analyses by his community members. First, there's what appears to be a very detailed CAD model of the heights and elevations of the structures, which shows that shooting from the first floor of building 6 would've not made sense, since the nearest bleacher would've blocked the line. Secondly, there's an audio analysis based on the echo signatures by another member (supposedly very experienced) that shows that shots 1-3 and 4-8 came from slightly different places: shots 1-3 were at minimum 12.75 feet (3.65m) closer to source 4 (video from the west side of building 6) than shots 4-8. Based on this, Martenson hypothesizes that a potential location for the second shooter that fits the data is the parapet just above the main entrance of building 6, which is ca 43 feet (13m) away from Crooks' position on the roof (see images below).
I couldn't find a good image of this parapet and how it looks like. Would it be possible for someone to take a shot from there?
I couldn't find a good image of this parapet and how it looks like. Would it be possible for someone to take a shot from there?
Okay, made some images of the parapet. You'll see it best in this drone video by Sky News (stills below) and in Dave's footage. Screenshots below. It looks like a pretty 'convenient' place to shoot from.
From Sky News footage:
From Dave's video:
From Sky News footage:
From Dave's video:
Interesting idea for sure. Although there seems to be the problem of how the second shooter can escape from there unnoticed? I would tend to say it is more unlikely because of that.
A quick addition: it would be interesting to know if that parapet thingy was constructed later, for instance, after the sell of the building complex mentioned earlier. What's the purpose of such a weird 'box' anyway? I tried to find older images of the building to see if the parapet was there earlier but didn't find anything useful (interestingly, Google produced hardly any search results). Maybe someone with better skills can find if that thing was there some years ago?
Having said that, maybe there is a rather sneaky and smart way to escape from the parapet, that can also solve a number of problems!:
Before the shooting begins and possibly before Crooks comes up the roof the real sniper hides behind the parapet and takes aim. As soon as Crooks is in shooting position the real sniper fires the first three shots. Then Crooks fires and gets killed (possibly even by him). Then the real sniper, shortly after that, stands up on the roof with his rifle that he used to shoot at Trump. In others words: It is guaranteed that he is the first person on the roof. That real sniper was clothed in a normal police and/or other law enforcement outfit from the get-go. Therefore, as soon as he stands up everyone assumes that he is a police or other law enforcement guy that climbed up the roof. As soon as he stands up he immediately goes towards the dead body of Crooks. Because he is the first person on the roof, he can now also add the number of bullet casings he shot himself, quickly, to the dead body of Crooks. He also blends quickly into the police crowd making a perfect escape. Several problems solved at once without much risk!
If that’s the case though you would need to either have nobody in the windows of the higher building overlooking the roof and/or conspirators there. Also, if that is the case, we have to ask who was the first guy spotted on the roof after Crooks died? In that case it is also likely that we see the real sniper on the roof in those interviews on the roof shortly after Crooks was dead. Can we see a law enforcement guy with a gun on the roof that could do those shots at Trumps head and with suitable sights? Can someone check?
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