Failed Trump Assassination Attempt

It seems that the point(s) (the one put up by Nichols around Crooks firing location), is based on sound interval of the rifle and the velocity of the round fired - milliseconds. The only way to change the point(s) would be a different rifle and round with a different velocity.
That applies only to the type of analysis I did. Nichols's analysis uses a different technique: triangulation based on the difference in time of the same sound reaching multiple recording devices. That analysis (TDOA) only uses the muzzle blasts, which travel at the speed of sound from the rifle and ignores the supersonic shock waves. Here's a different way of visualizing that type of analysis:
He doesn't use the formulas, and there are some problems with his use of the shock wave cones, but his recreation operates on the same principles and helps show them visually: sounds will reach recording devices at different times based on how far away they are from the source, and shots fired from a completely different location will reach those same devices at different intervals, showing that they came from a different source.
 
Full tinfoil mode.

TDARM in the real shooter (undergrounder) and TDARM out. Time travel and keep repeating the cycle over and over until a bullet hits Trump's ear just right so that Trump is otherwise fine to continue campaigning.

Are there any reports of Crooks breathing fire or multiple Crooks, a la Oswald?
Here is a report that is getting close to multiple Crooks, "dressed much like Crooks".
Still waiting on the Crooks breathing fire report.
 
Chris Martenson discusses the Clay-Higgins report and the avalanche of SS and FBI failures. These can't be explained away by ineptitude, because there are simply too many of them.

My intuition is the perpetrators are protecting someone fairly high up in the political food chain. Most likely the person who was going to replace Trump when he was killed. If that is the case, then the prime suspect most likely is 'war whore' Nikki Haley, plus whoever she was planning on making her running mate.... and the entire political 'machine' that supports her. Nikki and her 'entourage' would be my prime suspects.

 
-an AR15 firing 5.56s from a 16-inch barrel would be 136-160 meters away
-a 20-inch barrel firing 7.62s would be around 175-180 meters away
hey i like your assessment with respect to the distance calcs - either you have a ton of range time or a fancier app than i've got LOL !

how many people have heard a Honda Civic crank over ? and a Mustang 5.0 ? ... 5.56 and .308 ;-)

these youtube guys and their location co-ordination triangulation willy wonka wonder-bra analysis ... good grief ...

"but but but it has to do with timing, location, and trajectory and and and... "

here's a different question for the readers, one that's outside of the youtube box: why were that many rounds fired ? whatever the number was, why that many ?

WHAT was the PURPOSE of YOU hearing THOSE ROUNDS being fired ???!!!

here's something imo worth watching on the subject:


Cheers :-)
 
Perhaps, if there was indeed a small team of planted operatives of which Crooks was a part, we can come to some explanation of why there were some people calling "Crooks, get over here!" and such in one of the videos shot at the event. Perhaps he went off script and his team mates wondered what he was doing?

The video I'm talking about was posted earlier in this thread by Niall, here: Failed Trump Assassination Attempt

The video in question:
 
Perhaps, if there was indeed a small team of planted operatives of which Crooks was a part, we can come to some explanation of why there were some people calling "Crooks, get over here!"
It's "Ross, get over here". It's clearer in the longer video (before the shooting starts/after he's been shot).
 
hey i like your assessment with respect to the distance calcs - either you have a ton of range time or a fancier app than i've got LOL !

how many people have heard a Honda Civic crank over ? and a Mustang 5.0 ? ... 5.56 and .308 ;-)

these youtube guys and their location co-ordination triangulation willy wonka wonder-bra analysis ... good grief ...

"but but but it has to do with timing, location, and trajectory and and and... "

here's a different question for the readers, one that's outside of the youtube box: why were that many rounds fired ? whatever the number was, why that many ?

WHAT was the PURPOSE of YOU hearing THOSE ROUNDS being fired ???!!!

here's something imo worth watching on the subject:


Cheers :-)
This was most interesting. Their comment section has some good questions about their conclusions.
 
In the bodycam footage of the Butler cop walking from the command station in the south to the north fence line, there's a Butler SWAT guy visible in that area. I suspected he might be the guy who shot the 9th shot. Looks like that's correct. You can even see him taking a stance and aiming his rifle, then looking through his sights and raising his hand in the air after the 10th shot kills Crooks. Gray Hughes aligned the video with the audio from Dave and stabilized a few of the relevant parts (the bodycam timestamp is about 12 seconds off).


Here's what Higgins had said in his report, for context:
  • The 9th shot fired on J13 was from a Butler SWAT operator from the ground about 100 yards away from the AGR building. Shot 9 hit Crooks’ rifle stock and fragged his face/neck/right shoulder area from the stock breaking up. The SWAT operator who took this shot was a total badass; when he had sighted the shooter Crooks as a mostly obscured by foliage moving target on the AGR rooftop, he immediately left his assigned post and ran towards the threat, running to a clear shot position directly into the line of fire while Crooks was firing 8 rounds [you only see him walking into position immediately before the first shots are fired]. On his own, this ESU SWAT operator took a very hard shot, one shot. He stopped Crooks and importantly, I believe the shot damaged the buffer tube on Crooks’ AR. I won’t be certain of this until I can examine Crooks’ rifle, but I’m 99% sure, based upon reliable eye-witness ESU tactical officers who observed Crooks’ rifle before the FBI harvested it as evidence. This means that if his AR buffer tube was damaged, Crooks’ rifle wouldn’t fire after his 8th shot.
  • Crooks “went down” from his firing position when shot 9 was fired, and the SWAT officer was certain of his hit. According to the ESU SWAT operator, Crooks recovered after just a few seconds, and “popped back up”.
 
Further to that link I came across this today that some may find interesting:
The 'it was faked' stems from the 'it was actors' meme, that came from Sandy Hook/the Boston bombing.
Both of those are at best muddying of the waters, and at worst deliberate intel disinformation campaigns to make conspiracy theorists look crazy and callouses (and perhaps even make them less critically thinking).
It worked pretty well. It created blowback against conspiracy theorists (culminating in a billion dollar lawsuit against Alex Jones for the 'actors' at Sandy Hook - although a deliberate show trial, it had already laid the groundwork in the psyche of people).
And on the other side a bunch of people now consider things like the Flat Earth theory as accurate. Maybe that says something about the type of 'thinking' people who latch onto the 'fake' ideas have?
At best, they can't accept bad things happen - at worst, they can't even conceive of bad things happening.

This old article on sott may help: Why there were no 'actors' at the Boston Marathon bombings

So in short - no, it wasn't faked.
Yes, there are many things that are 'strange' about it.
Here you have an opportunity to question the knowledge you may lack, if you so wish.
Such as - is it strange because I have no reference to such events/the only reference I have is movies?
I remember 9/11 'feeling' like a movie. Even the Trump assassination attempt felt a little similar. You can add any number of events to that list (the Bataclan massacre comes to mind). You can even add the genocide in Palestine to that list.
They all seem so 'unreal', because - frankly - none of us has direct exposure to such levels of violence. Unless you are ex military you probably have never even been exposed to a real life shooting event. So it's 'unreal'.

Welcome to the wonderful world of psychology - where the brain labels anything it doesn't understand as 'unreal' and tries to find a 'simple solution' as quickly as possible so it can stop feeling freaked out. 'Fake event' is sure a quick way to get your brain to calm down and stop freaking out. It's not the truth though.
 
The 'it was faked' ...
Hey Red, thanks for your reply ! I threw that link out without any disclaimer - which i ought to have done in hindsight.

"Fake" imo can be interpreted many ways - in can be twisted by whomever to suit their opinion and strengthen their argument - similar to the word "truth". So I take Lt Colombo's approach; the fact's, just the facts, please.

Yes I recall that Sott article. I see nothing wrong or incorrect in the author's interpretations - I see an opinion formed without all the facts - they are his interpretations given his knowledge and predispositions with respect to the technical minutia given. Has he experienced blast trauma as a care provide or as a recipient of such wounds? Has he worked in a medical field or an artistic cosmetology field thus allowing him to distinguish shit from shinola ? Has he worked in signals or intel ? ( no mention in that article of the bozos running comms and field packs eh, curious ? ).

Trying to distinguish right from wrong, truth from fiction, fake from real in any of these psyops is ... as i have just clued in (or out), counterproductive and pointless. I'm gonna go take my dog for a long quiet walk through the woods.

cheers.
 
What was the time lapse between shot 9 and 10? About 10 seconds or so, right?
Yep. In the video from the west of the building, that's when the witnesses there report Crooks turning towards them briefly. In the bodycam video you can see Crooks's head pop up again about 4 seconds before the 10th shot. During those 4 seconds or so the SWAT guy walk a few steps to his left and takes aim again. He's still aiming as the 10th shot ringing out, then he pumps his hand in the air and lowers his rifle.

I synced up the two videos, using Gray Hughes's sync and the "Ross!" video. Gray's audio sync was off a tiny bit, so I corrected that. But the sync with the Ross video might be 0.1 or 0.2 seconds off. Hard to know exactly how to align it given the different times at which the two audio sources would pick up the initial shot. But it's close enough to catch when the man can be heard saying Crooks is turning towards them.


Speaking of which, does anyone have a link to the video where Crooks can be seen turning?
 
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.... this ESU SWAT operator took a very hard shot, one shot. He stopped Crooks and importantly, I believe the shot damaged the buffer tube on Crooks’ AR. I won’t be certain of this until I can examine Crooks’ rifle, but I’m 99% sure, based upon reliable eye-witness ESU tactical officers who observed Crooks’ rifle before the FBI harvested it as evidence. This means that if his AR buffer tube was damaged, Crooks’ rifle wouldn’t fire after his 8th shot.
  • Crooks “went down” from his firing position when shot 9 was fired, and the SWAT officer was certain of his hit. According to the ESU SWAT operator, Crooks recovered after just a few seconds, and “popped back up”.

Let's break this down into smaller bits for clarity:
Cop hears shots, ascertains shooter position, (Cop's scope is likely standard issue 3.5 fixed power with illuminated reticle.)
Cop likely taps his comm transmitting intent then engages with one round, apparently.
Cop's hand signal doesn't say "hey look what i did yeeeha !", there's probably a lot of chatter and he identifies himself to other po-po via hand signal. Why he does not stay standing in that spot with the target locked on scope is puzzling - inexperience likely. The target could have rolled, acquired him, and thud, one less Cop.

Now this gets interesting when the author says he's 99% sure ... blah blah blah ' ... Crooks recovered ...and "popped back up". '

Crooks was right handed, apparently. He was facing DJT, so he was at a slight angle to the Cop mentioned above, where the Cop would have been on Crooks left side. For Crooks to fire the AR his right hand is on the hand grip, the AR butt is pressed into his right shoulder, his left arm is likely providing support to the fore-stock to improve sight picture / alignment. This means the buffer tube is between and rearward of his right cheek and right side of his neck, his right underside forearm, and likely behind and somewhat lower than the peak of the roof by an inch or two.
The Cop is firing from low ground, he can see the target's head, shoulders and weapon's fore-end. Because of the 3.5 power scope at what looks like < 80m the Cop's adrenaline would be pumping, he's sweating, and he's fires standing, not a "hard shot" for a Cop that is trained accordingly, but easy to miss given the events unfolding.

The author said the Cop stopped Crooks. But then Crooks popped back up.

Hmmmm ?

To hit the rifle's buffer tube the Cop's round would have to have gone through Crooks neck, or face / head, or left shoulder, OR through the tin roof, up into the buffer tube. Is this possible ? Yes, though Crook would likely not have "popped back up".

Did the eye-witness ESU guys describe the damaged tube ? Buffer tubes are made from 6061 Aluminum and house a coil steel spring, they are not plastic, and they are designed to take a thumping or two.

The Cop may have hit the rifle's receiver or mag, that would have disabled it from firing - and any lead splatter and accompanying tin roof bits could have sent fragments into Crooks' eyes / face - forcing him to duck / move.

The purpose of my writing was not to discredit the author nor criticize his opinion - I have broken down movements and technique into smaller digestible mental chunks to provide clarity for people who are not familiar with that particular rifle, it's functioning, and how it is placed with the shooter to fire from the prone position.

Further to this - I suspect the Cop's 223 round did not hit Crooks. From other imagery posted of Crooks it looks more likely a larger caliber clocked his noggin, perhaps a 300 Blackout ( those AAC aficionados will read between the lines ).

I inquired, in a previous post, why so many rounds were fired (other than the counter sniper / Cops return fire).
Well, imo, if DJT was to be removed, it could be done without drama; but if it was to look like it was done with drama the remover would not be visible or near anyone, and a suppressed heavy caliber would have been used. In order to provide maximum obfuscation the team would have plants or patsy's to discharge multiple rounds in order to feed the "rabbit hole generator" as another Forum member articulated. But the drama was about something other than removing DJT, it was to fool and further divide the public and republic.
What was the name of his TV show ? Right. He is now a Journeyman.

Cheers
 

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